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About Matty from Vancouver Canada: I love music of all kinds, with R&B and pop toping my list of favourite genres. I've been a Mariah fan since Charmbraclet, there was something about that album that connects on a deep level. Other favourite albums are Glitter, Daydream, The Emancipation of Mimi, and Me. I Am Mariah.

My Favourite Mariah Songs are: The Art of Letting Go, Fantasy & Shake It Off.

My Least Favourite album is Music Box.

My most start-to-finish listened album (don't-skip-a-track albums): Emotions, Butterfly, The Emancipation of Mimi and Me. I Am Mariah: The Elusive Chanteuse.

The dress bit (100,087) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
I've got to say, recreating the MTV Whitney/Mariah moment with Dua Lipa and M.T.S was pretty lame last night at the Grammy's. Either artists is even close to Mariah or Whitney's stature; and given that there was hardly any seasoned artists in attendance (it seemed like it was a newbie's night), most of the young artists probably didn't get the reference to that iconic moment in 1998.

The lack of seasoned career artists in attendance really goes to show how little people in the industry really think of the Grammy's. When Bieber is one of the most season artists in attendance, the Academy should reflect on itself. (Bonnie Raitt and Joni Mitchel were the only other reasoned artists I noticed in attendance.)
(Monday 4 April 2022; 19:33)
Big streaming (100,060) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Yay to the B.E. remix being number one in Canada and the USA! Odd about the streaming lack; my friend is only using Amazon Music for streaming, and he says it isn't not available on there, and to listen to it he had to YouTube it. Maybe it's not on Spotify or other streaming services?
(Wednesday 30 March 2022; 19:18)
Caution - what a hook! (99,858) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Caution (the song) has such an amazing hook. it's so catchy. Caution woulda been a good lead single to introduce the record. It embodies the entire album. Then GTFO, then A No No as singles. Those songs embody the album IMO (even though GML is my fave on the album. 6 mins and 8 seconds is not long enough ).
(Sunday 6 March 2022; 23:12)
Hero discussion moment (99,847) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Caveat: This board has been sedative, and I want to have a friendly discussion, so please read my post as such. Hero annoys me as a MC fan, I've made that clear over my posts. However I one thousand percent understand why people connect and love the song. I'll speak as someone who planed their pee breaks at the five Mariah Carey concerts I've been too, to line up with when she sung Hero. For me Hero reeks of, "it could have been Celine Dion", "it could have been Deborah Cox", it could have been Gloria Estefan (wink wink). It's so far from what makes Mariah unique as an artist, so far from signature Mariah's invented genre. Can it give me chills, absolutely. That's no question, it's a stunningly executed song. That voice, that upswing, that passion. Is it Mariah creatively liberated, no. Hero could be sung and has been sung by so many. Something like Giving Me Life, or Babydoll can only be executed my Mimi.
(Saturday 5 March 2022; 05:00)
Billboard cover - That's Iconic (99,846) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
I don't know what to say about the Billboard cover. Mariah absolutely deserves to be Billboards cover girl for this series of legendary women in music, however, whoever that is on the cover of Billboard... I don't know her. Billboard should have hired Thatsiconic.com to do the cover. I have That's Iconic's Mariah Carey Visual Compendium (horizontal print) and his art is stunning. simply gorgeous and well executed and understood. I thought the Christina Billboard cover was Gaga at first sight. The artist of these covers doesn't capture the essence of the artist. It's that simple. I'd prefer they had used the cartoon version of Mariah from the Heartbreaker video (which is still the most legit cartoon version of Mariah to date).
(Saturday 5 March 2022; 04:46)
Re: Perfume (99,749) (99,750) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
The reference is obvious, but it's also 18 years old and hasn't aged well.
(Tuesday 22 February 2022; 01:16)
Re: Perfume (99,745) (99,747) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
I love Tom Fords as well! Except for the peach too, hahaha, peach never translates well, even as juice. My absolute favourite fragrance right now is Louis Vuitton Nuit de Feu. It's got a Tom Ford essence to it!
(Monday 21 February 2022; 16:56)
Re: Perfume (99,743) (99,746) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Aw. Thank you Carlos!

"Too Gay to function." I haven't heard that since the '90s. What year are we in? Anyway, we are aware that scent has no gender or sex right, it's simply a scent. Kinda like how pink and blue are simply colours. It's not a tricky concept. Marketing must do a real number on you.
(Monday 21 February 2022; 16:37)
Perfume (99,732) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Which of Mariah's perfumes do you like the most? I still wear "M" (this is the absolute best of her collection, and the first), Mine Again, Honey and Never Forget You. I've got the entire collection, except for Dream, That Chick, Ribbon and Gold.

Just curious if anyone else has a ranking of their favourite MC perfumes? The only other celebrity perfumes I have are a couple Beyoncé, and only wear Midnight Heat.

Fun fact: Sophia Loren's Sophia by Cotyin 1980/1981 was the first celebrity perfume; then Cher's with Uninhibited in 1987; then Elizabeth Taylor who blew the market open with Passion and White Diamonds.
(Sunday 20 February 2022; 21:46)
Re: Sweetheart (99,726) (99,728) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Sluggish; that's absolutely the best word to describe it!
(Saturday 19 February 2022; 22:43)
Re: Sweetheart (99,720) (99,723) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
It's wild to me it's a remake. I didn't know either. I have an odd love yet absolutely hate relationship with the song. Is it the JD ad-libs I hate? Is it the budget video I hate? "We don't know" (Glitter reference). But as I just listened to the original, which I love, it's very Tom Tom Club (Genius of Love) vibe, the original makes me enjoy MC's Sweetheart more. I gotta say I enjoy Rainy Davis's execution and delivery much more then what she and JD delivered.
(Friday 18 February 2022; 20:07)
One offs compilation album? (99,686) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
A pet peeve I have in our digital streaming era is when singles are released without a parent album. I wonder if Mariah could add the one off singles to a formal compilation of some sort. Thoughts?

It would be great to give Triumphant, I Don't, Almost Home and even The Art of Letting Go a proper home. It drives me bonkers that of all the songs on MIAM, she cut The Art of Letting go and only put it on a deluxe version (which also had the better album artwork, and I'm not talking about the paint shop version of the deluxe addition that has America the unnecessary).

Also, if Triumphant were to have stayed on MIAM as the lead single, as originally intended, how would Triumphant (single 1), #Beautiful (single 2), The Art of Letting Go (single 3), You Don't Know What to Do (final single 4) played with the public?
(Friday 11 February 2022; 05:14)
Caution plus (99,678) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Oooh I like this. Blending Caution (one of her best albums ever) with MIAM (I love it, but it's also a hot mess).

1.GTFO
2. Caution
3. A No No
4. Faded
5. Dedicated
6. Giving Me Life
7. #Beautiful
8. Money ($*/...)
9. With You
10. The distance
11. You make it look good
12. You don't know what to do
13. Meteorite
14. 8th Grade
15. Portrait
(Wednesday 9 February 2022; 21:53)
Re: Favorite resung vocal (99,636) (99,646) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
The belt in Fantasy is from another world, the full voice in Dreamlover, the entire reimagining of ATYNAF and "love is like suicide" added a new meaning to the song (almost like those lyrics were tooled from the OG lyrics because it's too dark).
(Saturday 5 February 2022; 23:42)
Re: Nick's sorted relationship history (99,643) (99,645) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Wow pal.
(Saturday 5 February 2022; 23:32)
Re: Favorite resung vocal (99,630) (99,634) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Fantasy, Dreamlover, ATYNAF, and You’re Mine Eternal club remixes.
(Saturday 5 February 2022; 01:56)
Re: Nick's sorted relationship history (99,628) (99,633) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Pw, it's not that serious, this is a discussion board, that's all. It's never that serious. I think you missed the discussion; 8 children plus 8 jobs. How precent can one human be for 16 major responsibilities? 8 of which demand an emotional presences and physical presence. It wasn't about his career hustle; it's about what a child needs from their father.
(Saturday 5 February 2022; 00:50)
Nick's sorted relationship history (99,622) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
This [Nick] Cannon stuff is so layered. I agree it's interesting that the women post [baby] Golden need to take a hard look at their intentions. Let's also take a look at Nick's [dating] history. I mean we have Christina Milian (which seemed sincere and they were at the same level of fame at the time of their courtship), there was Nichol Scherzinger (same as Christina, they were level in fame and still are and now colleagues on the Masked Singer), [there] was Kim K, [he] was more famous than at the time, when she had her first face and was know only as Paris's [bestie], before the sex tape (full disclosure, I love Kim K, I'm stating facts). There was Chill from TLC who was his rebound from Mariah. And then [all] these models and [babies].

My personal believe is that because he's publicly struggled with a lot of health issues (lupus etc.), and you can see his health wear on him. It's almost a primal desire to spread his seed before he's not around. It's a dark view, but knowing some [people] who face their mortality have a similar need to secure their lineage. I do echoing that it's pathological, and I would suggest it's because of his thoughts about his own mortality.

I see a thick thread between the need for spreading his seed to why he feels he needs 10 jobs as once. I dunno how he can do it, and I truly don't understand why you'd want to do it. Why not focus on something meaning, instead of all the multi-task life. I dunno; X amount of jobs, and X amount of [babies] doesn't equal superiority or an exertion of masculinity, or acceptance or many needs.

Side note; I have always been team Mariah and Nick reuniting after [baby] four. I was over it.
(Friday 4 February 2022; 01:00)
Re: Underated? (99,595) (99,599) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
That's very true about the one dimensional approach by Celine. To think the same women could give us Right to Dream, Shake it Off, and Hero for example. That's kind of why I'm surprised MC doesn't write more for other artists since she came plug into such a variety of genres. I wonder why Mariah's songwriting wasn't highlighted as her biggest differentiator from the very start (against Celine or Whitney). Her voice always was pushed center stage (again with the Whitney comparisons). This was in the era that female singer-songwriters were getting so much credit and exposure (ie: Jewel, Sarah Mclachlan; Annie Lennox etc. Lilith Fair festival was massive). Some people to this day are still surprised she writes her own material, and it's only been in the last 10 years or so she's being introduced as a singer songwriter. It took them long enough to get her in the Songwriters Hall of Fame imo.
(Wednesday 2 February 2022; 00:23)
Re: Underated? (99,570) (99,572) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
That's a great point. Mariah was covered in the press as the new Whitney (much like Ariana was being touted as the New Mariah when she started), where as Celine being white and French Canadian was never compared to Whitney in that way. It's funny though because Whitney and Celine's voices have much more similar qualities then Mariah's. Celine has always been vocal about wanting to collaborate with Mariah. I wonder if Mariah ever does a duets album if she'd include her?
(Monday 31 January 2022; 21:51)
Underated? (99,566) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
I know we're not not supposed to discuss other female singers on this platform, but I have to ask what people think about Celine Dion on this forum. She had a full and successful Canadian Québécois career as a child from 1981-1987. But she was also signed by Sony and released her first English-focused album in 1990. Mariah and Celine had the exact same look, and their first English album art are almost identical (Unison and Mariah Carey album art are the exact same, in the same year). Not to mention they both married their managers (Celine's seems to be a fairytale, not a nightmare like Mariah's experience). I wonder why they often are considered so different. Celine even had "rap songs" ah la Prisoner. My question is: did Mariah experience more pressure the Celine? What happened? I would love your thoughts.
(Sunday 30 January 2022; 21:42)
Re: Best Vinyl/CD Presentation award (99,550) (99,555) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Rarities and MOAIA box set. Hands down. CD version would be EOM and MOAIA with the Elle booklet.
(Thursday 27 January 2022; 08:02)
Re:Your relationship today with number ones (99,554) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Great topic. I included the UK edition #1s as well because I wish they got promo in Canada, I sometimes don't understand labels territory choices, anyway:

Vision of Love - Sounds epic and brand new every time I hear it.
Love Takes Time - I sing this to myself and in my head all the time, but never play they actual recording.
Someday - Love. This defines the Mom Jean Generation and love the electric guitar. I feel there's gotta be more behind Mariah's dislike of the song, because it's gold.
I Don't Wanna Cry - A bath tub sob song that's perfect when I need it.
Emotions - Iconic, but also over played as the obvious go-to Mariah song that's not AIWFCIY.
I'll Be There - Anytime anyone questions Mariah, I hit play.
Dreamlover - The remix? Always. The standard version, I only watch the video to see Mariah's plaid look because I still dress like that every day, to this day, a classic look. Plaid and jeans, classic and timeless.
Hero - Skip.
Without You - UK Addition - Her best cover aside from Bringing on the Heartbreak.
Fantasy - My theme song. My favourite song of all time. The song that will be played at my funeral and all my friends and family know. Fantasy forever and ever. My grandkids will know Fantasy by heart.
One Sweet Day - Beautiful, yet I never play it. Too sad and needs a mood.
Always Be My Baby - A turn up whenever it comes on and everyone, Lamb or not, joins in and knows every word. Amazing karaoke.
Honey - Must be driving on a beautiful sunny day with my convertible's top down.
My All - Gorgeous and must listen all the way through with the drama and the theatrics.
Heartbreaker - Number one party starter and most played MC song at the gay club to this day. Epic and infectious.
Thank God I Found You - Corny and forgettable. It's hard not to sing along, but it's a shame this is one of her number ones when Loverboy, Shake it off, #Beautiful never made it there.
Against All Odds - UK Addition - Love this song, and wish the Westlife version was the album version. Guess it was a battle of Westlife and 98 Degrees to make the official album.
We Belong Together - All versions are epic and rip my heart open.
Don't Forget About Us - Such a brilliant song, and play it often. "Kills bees."
Touch My Body - Most epic soft chill summer jam, sitting on the beach in the sun, sipping a fruity drink with a sun burn and sand on my skin. Love the Caribbean seas vibe.
All I Want for Christmas Is You - Any month any time.
(Thursday 27 January 2022; 08:01)
Re: I Am Free (99,492) (99,498) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Wow, really! Re listened with that in mind, and it sounds like a Celine cover still. VOL is its own beast. I Am Free is beautiful, but basic. No VOL.
(Saturday 22 January 2022; 05:47)
Re: Reimagining albums into 10 tracks (99,487) (99,489) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Debut: Prisoner
Emotions: N/A (already 10)
Music Box: N/A
Daydream: I am Free and When I Saw You (slows the album down way to much, very ah la Music Box)
Butterfly: (this one is way to hard): Whenever you call (because we get a better version on #1s), and argh. Breakdown dare I say (I've always seen Breakdown and Babydoll as sister songs for some reason, and I like Babydoll better.) Yikes this one was hard.
Rainbow: How Much, X-Girlfriend, Did I do that, Rainbow Interlude
Glitter: If We, Want You
Charmbracelet: The One, My Saving Grace, Lullaby, Through the Rain (remix), Sunflowers for Alfred Roy (I'm so sorry Mariah, this is only based on song not on personal meaning.)
TEOM: Stay The Night, Get Your Number, Your Girl, To The Floor
E=MC2: LS, LK, T4N, Bye Bye (Heat should have made the final version as the opening track to the album, that leads into Migrate, then TMB into I'm That Chick). The "It's Mariahhhh" opening to Heat was perfect given she was the biggest star in the world at the time and it sums up the summer loving hard hitting vibe of the album perfectly.
MOAIA: Inseparable, Standing O, More than Just Friends, Languishing (which was a hard choice). The remix of UOMF should have been the album version (would have helped with album sales, given this was Nicki's first Billboard entry).
MIAM: Thirsty, Supernatural (again so sorry Mariah, I know it's sentimental), Camouflage, One More Try (even though I love this cover and don't understand the hate, I just like everything else better).
Caution: N/A (but the singles should have gone in this order: GTFO, A No No, Caution, The Distance)
(Friday 21 January 2022; 05:04)

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