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About JC from USA: Mariah fan since Music Box through Now.

Re: What if that's just Mariah? (100,555) (100,557) by JC from USA Why the heck are we lamenting about an erratic speech (which should definitely not be compared with AIWFCIY's playful tone, totally different) when her tribute was underwhelming and she should have had a higher caliber of artists paying respects. Sure, she had years to work out her speech, but maybe she was caught up in the festivities and splashes. Y'all are reaching. Congrats, Mariah. While the 90's may have perceived you as a formulaic writer, it's developed a blueprint for generations. You deserved this. (Thursday 23 June 2022; 09:13)

Re: Nostradamus on twitter (100,385) (100,402) by JC from USA Nostradamus is generally spot on and usually uses words carefully. There's a lot of talk of Cardi, but based on recent Twitter engagements, my eyes are on Saweetie. I do think Cardio's name would be more beneficial propelling a song commercially. However, she's a bit more "pop" and I picture Mariah working with Saweetie more seamlessly while providing guidance and giving more of an edge musically. This all said, Cardi only has one full studio album under her belt and she's expected for a big summer release. Could they relate? (Monday 6 June 2022; 05:51)

Re: Just an opinion AIWFCIY (100,392) (100,401) by JC from USA Absurd. This is not the same as lifting a sample. The only thing these have in common are a title. I'm sure it will be settled out of court and this guy will undeservingly make some cash. Also, in terms of "little proof" - Irv Gotti confirmed the takedown. And the obscurity of the Firecracker sample is reason enough. And, for what it's worth, I do think MC has mistakenly lifted a melody ("You are not alone" by MJ for "Hero", specifically). But this is unequivocal, there is no bias, and I recommend avoiding music law. I'm .excited for the June release. (Monday 6 June 2022; 05:42)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,252) (100,253) by JC from USA Billboard has actually always been against Mariah. Remember when she was the only female pop artist to have two songs debut at #1 before they changed the rules so AirPlay was more impactful? Non commercial releases were not even chart-able then. I hope the BBMA performance does bolster streams and, in turn, overtake the original, but it's nice to actually hear her out. Today, I heard the original Fantasy at JRs and the BBE Remix at Roundup and Mr. Misster here in Dallas. Dallas lambs, unite. (Monday 9 May 2022; 06:49)

Re: Billboard Hot 100 (100,143) (100,145) by JC from USA Not to mention the subject of this thread pertains nothing to the ARIA charts. No offense, but I'm not interested in how BER peaks in Australia. My guess (pure speculation) is there is a video for the remix. Not sure Mariah and Latto would've just done those promo teasers and not take advantage of the opportunity. Let's hope they bust it out soon (at BER peak) for a last minute push in attempt for a #1. (Wednesday 13 April 2022; 03:32)

Re: Statistics (100,047) (100,050) by JC from USA Thanks for sharing. Looks like some great momentum. Personally, I love the track. I'm glad there isn't a new verse (though I would loved to have the "I'm in heaven..." part also included). In Dallas, they've already been mixing these two songs together at the clubs for at least the past few weeks. Seems they're taking the Doja and Meggan Thee Stallion approach by remixing with big names in hopes of scoring a #1. It worked for both of them (both their remixes hit #1). (Tuesday 29 March 2022; 17:53)

Re: Underated? (99,568) (99,570) by JC from USA The OP brings up valid points in the fact their careers are shaped similarly. The key difference for me is that Celine was always riding the adult contemporary wave, while Mariah embraced her more urban sound in 1997, much to the disappointment of many. I do think Renee and Tommy both saw artists like Whitney and polished their own versions in a supreme female vocalist. Celine is culturally different, being French Canadian, and has done a beautiful job crossing over. Mariah came out as a "Whitney" type but as the last responder failed to mention, they quickly changed course by Music Box. Mariah Carey and Emotions have deeper, more gospel tones whereas she begins using more of a chest/head mix with her voice during Music Box and all subsequent years. They realized they needed a distinction. Celine has a beautiful voice for someone to say they "hate" her voice or songs is incredibly biased. I do think Mariah's probably always had a bit of an ego for writing her own music but nothing she's written in the past 10 years compares to Falling Into You in terms of composition. Her writing has gotten very messy in terms of word choice and structure. Falling Into You was Celine's Daydream. I love them both. Not one is better than the other, just different. (Monday 31 January 2022; 13:51)

Summer Walker / Still Not Over It (99,120) by JC from USA Totally random, but I wonder if Mariah is listening to this album. It's a true R&B album and I think anyone who likes Mariah's more "urban" sound would vibe with it. I also think they'd sound so good together. I like No Love featuring SZA and Throw It Away. Summer's backing vocals reminds me of how Mariah layers and their writing styles are very similar. Obviously Mariah's voice is supreme, but stylistically, I bet Mariah would love this work. (Sunday 12 December 2021; 00:54)

Re: Music now (98,589) (98,591) by JC from USA I'm still obsessing over Save Your Tears remix with Ari. So good. Loved Kiss Me More and also I Need to Know by Doja. Current favorite is Coastin' by Victoria Monet, but it's very underplayed. Bed by Joel Corry was my favorite bop of the summer. This summer has been packed with jams. Yet, still listened to Caution in its entirety the other day during a road trip. (Thursday 9 September 2021; 02:01)

Re: American Idol performance (98,390) (98,459) by JC from USA This is the same approach she takes with many "live" performances. Record a few times and piece together. They did this with "Born again" with John Legend and the late night WBT, for example. If you look closely, you can spot inconsistencies re: where her hair is placed. That said, she often uses backing tracks for select climaxes. Loved the American Idol medley. Sounded and looked great. Her whole style during that time was sophisticated glam. (Wednesday 28 July 2021; 07:36)

Re: Twitter Spaces audio link (98,451) (98,458) by JC from USA What is with all the hate on Caution these days? I still listen to and love it. A great "mood" album with a consistent theme. And also, her most critically-acclaimed studio album since Emancipation. I used to love having my friends over, setting my lights to purple, and having splashed. (Wednesday 28 July 2021; 07:31)

Re: Somewhat Loved (98,313) (98,319) by JC from USA Girl, those who are comparing AIWFCIY to Somewhat Loved must be kidding. AIWFCIY finally hit number one due to how streaming is weighted, which becomes especially important during the festive season. Somewhat Loved will never chart. I believe Mariah knows it, considering the very little social media promotion and lack of any other support. She's featured, so thankfully this will not be her lead into her next studio album. Give me more Caution vibes, elevated, please. And perhaps a more cohesive, well-structured bop to bring it on home. (Tuesday 6 July 2021; 06:56)

Re: Somewhat Loved (98,299) (98,302) by JC from USA Mariah is unlikely to have any new material viral on TikTok; if anything, it will be older "classics". SL gets 2 stars from this lamb. Chorus is decent. "Ain't such things as lover and friends" ties it together nicely, especially how drawn out "lover and friends" is. Overall structure is a bit disjointed. Intro, versus, chorus, all sounds like half baked songs pasted together. I see a lot of praise for the lyrics (SMH). It feels like a failed attempt at narrating a story. I was so underwhelmed, I didn't even try to push this song on my friends the way I did the whole Caution album. Can Mariah get someone to clean up her work? I wish she'd relinquish some writing and production control to someone with more skin in today's music game. (Thursday 1 July 2021; 04:52)

Grammy's: Mimi edition (97,522) by JC from USA Since Mariah's albums are all quite unique from one another, it's hard to simply rank. But I thought it'd be fun to pick some Grammy categories and list the tracks we think would be nominated/win if they went up against themselves. I'd love to see what you guys put in these categories (or other categories), including album cuts. Record of the year: Fantasy (winner) We Belong Together Dreamlover Emotions Song of the year: Vision of Love (winner) We Belong Together One Sweet Day Hero Best r&b album: Emancipation of Mimi (winner) Caution E=MC2 Me. I am Mariah Pop album of the year: Mariah Carey Music Box (winner) Daydream Emotions Album of the year: Mariah Carey Music Box Emancipation of Mimi (winner) Daydream Best collaboration: Fantasy feat. ODB (winner) One Sweet Day feat. Boy II Men Endless Love feat. Luther Vandross Breakdown feat. Bone Thugz (Monday 1 March 2021; 02:52)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,907) (72,916) by JC from USA I disagree. While I agree Mariah was totally snubbed that year (I remember watching it, loved her green dress), Jagged Little Pill was much more complex in terms of songwriting and many people remember the hits the album spawned (You Oughta Know, Ironic, Hand in My Pocket, Head Over Feet, etc.). Personally, I agree that ABMB or Fantasy should've been recognized, but I do not think the snug was a racial issue. It more likely had more to do with Mariah receiving special treatment in Sony days including bigger budgets and promotion. Also, during this era, it should be noted that Mariah was often criticized for a lack of soul and being seemingly contrived. All of her hits were very formulaic, though I'm proud of her for pioneering the R&B/pop collabo with Fantasy. After the divorce, her music, IMO, became even better but less recognized. Butterfly is a beautiful album where she actually emotes and stops playing it so safe. (Monday 20 February 2017; 3:56)

Re: Next album (57,658) (57,665) by JC from USA I like "Mine Again". TBH, I've been listening to "Stay the Night" a lot. I think it's also seemingly effortless but so strong. (Friday 6 November 2015; 5:05)

Re article: Underrated '00s pop songs you need to hear asap (57,644) (57,664) by JC from USA It was actually the best-selling song of 2001. (Friday 6 November 2015; 5:04)

Re: Adele (57,659) (57,663) by JC from USA Glad you own it, but it did. We should all appreciate the vocal talents brought to us by other people. I'm a lamb, through and through, but I refuse to bash on other artists. It's not a good look. It also doesn't make sense when we compare every contemporary, charting artist to MC. Side note: Can't wait for the snow to fall and listen to "Miss You Most". (Friday 6 November 2015; 5:02)

Re: Single release strategy / Hello (57,629) (57,638) by JC from USA I completely disagree. I find it ridiculous that a lot of lambs attempt to compare Mariah to whatever song is really hot right now. "Hello" and "The Art of Letting Go" are nothing letting go. Mariah doesn't even belt until 2:57, where she kills it. "Hello" has much more simplistic lyrics, and surprisingly, a lot more melisma. (Wednesday 4 November 2015; 9:47)