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Ben Margulies (103,461)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 13 September 2023; 00:26) | | |
The Music Box 30th anniversary has stirred up in me a lot reminiscing about MC's remarkable career. I am wondering how a 2023 Ben Margulies collaboration would sound today. I am hoping there are some more Ben collaborations in the vault. He is in the same class of producers and songwriters that MC never worked with again after her debut - Ric Wake, Rhett Lawrence and Narada Michael Walden. |
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Crybaby (103,450)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 12 September 2023; 05:31) | | |
Crybaby was genius Mariah at her best. It has elements of hip hop, R&B, New Jack, and jazz all in one song. What other contemporary female artist has done that multiple times over. She doesn't receive enough credit for being a damn good songwriter. Her vocal acrobats and diva persona cause her songwriting skills to take a back seat sometimes. Timmy Gatling's creative differences with Aaron Hall of Guy brought me here because MC had the same creative differences.with Sony over Crybaby's release. It's ironic that one of the songwriters had creative differences over Piece Of Love that Crybaby samples. |
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Taking care of herself (103,449)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 12 September 2023; 04:38) | | |
I am predicting that MC is planning a new album in 2024. She is taking this time get her voice back to at least E=MC2 or Memoirs eras. I would be happy if she can. |
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This is a reply to message 103,443 by
Jamie from UK
(Monday 11 September 2023; 23:05) | | |
Wow Mariah is looking in great shape, from her recent Instagram post. She really seems in a good place right now and taking care of herself. Let’s hope that with the added confidence of looking her best she starts to focus on giving us some new music and working on those vocals. Maybe reliving the [Music Box] era has given her the push she needed to remember how great she was. |
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AYNAF Extended Version (103,442)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 11 September 2023; 19:39) | | |
Wow. What extended version was I listening to on YouTube last night? I am going to listen to the CD version later. |
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This is a reply to message 103,439 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 11 September 2023; 15:08) | | |
Robert-Anthony, it's just the same song on the album but a little longer. It's not a different take. |
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AYNAF Extended Version (103,432)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 11 September 2023; 04:39) | | |
This is the gospel version that never made it on the album. This version was probably recorded first. Then one day in the studio she realized it was too gospel for the album. Tommy probably helped her decide too. Music Box the album is a very orchestrated piece of art. The mixes and song choices were carefully thought about to make a cohesive album. This is really why every song flowed into each other like a woven piece of cloth. It's not by coincidence that Music Box is her biggest selling album. Tommy was not going to let MC's third album be subjected to the criticism and low sales like Emotions. |
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Music Box - 30th anniversary (103,425)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 10 September 2023; 23:21) | | |
It really did feel good last week with announcement. It was a kid getting a new toy on Christmas day. MC spoiled us with a new album every two years in the 90s. We are not accustomed to long periods of time between albums. |
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This is a reply to message 103,418 by
Libra Lamb from USA
(Sunday 10 September 2023; 14:50) | | |
I also have a new found appreciation for Music Box, it was never my most played album, but with these new gems it makes me want to listen to it over and over again. I'm loving it and am so happy with these unreleased songs finally seeing the light of day, old and new fans can appreciate the hard work that went into these recordings. I also noticed that only with the release of new MC music this board is happy and peaceful, without new music things can get a bit aggressive and confrontational. So for our sake, I'm hoping she keeps releasing more new music or previously unreleased gems. If nothing else, for peacekeeping. |
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MB30 (103,417)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 10 September 2023; 14:38) | | |
Randy, I was hoping that you would like My Prayer. After you mentioned getting your DJ friend to remix Right To Dream, I found a remix version on SoundCloud that is horrible. It's Def Club meets heavy metal. There were so many screeching sounds that Dee Snider would have disapproved. Lol. Google Right To Dream remix and it will show up in the listing. |
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This is a reply to message 103,403 by
Randy from USA
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 22:49) | | |
Hey fam. I've been busy since I have a new teaching assignment this year. So I finally listened to the new music. I have to say. I am excited you all are excited. But I don't like My Prayer or Workin Hard. Mariah sounds incredible but what would you expect for '93? I just don't like the songs and understand why they were left on the cutting room floor. Hero 2009 had my attention on the first verse and chorus. She sounds absolutely breathtaking. Pun intended. I didn't like the 2nd verse at all. Ima stick with the Never Too Far/Hero Medley as my definitive version. I am not being a negative Nancy, I was summoned by Robert. And to a lesser extent Edward. It's good to see a flurry of activity on the board. Pun intended. P.S. I wonder what a Right to Dream remix would sound like? I have a DJ friend. Hmmmm. |
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Workin Hard x My Prayer x All I Live For x Hero 09 (103,409)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 10 September 2023; 06:21) | | |
Maybe All I Live For Extended Version was intended for The Rarities, but MC wanted to save it to open up MB30. It just amazes me how she works her magic regarding her phrasing, vocals, lyrics, and sequencing. She is always on point with all four and always amazes us with them. No wonder she and Walter A. worked so well together. I wish they would reconcile at least to produce an album of reimagined or extended mixes of their best work together. My fingers are crossed and praying for it to happen soon. |
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This is a reply to message 103,393 by
Edward from USA
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 17:15) | | |
The same sentiment here. "All I Live For Extended" is just brilliant. I don't know why she cut it off and put that short lived whistle at the end on "The Rarities". "My Prayer" was executed beautifully, vocally and emotionally, but I can understand why "Without You" was chosen, it sounds more current even today. As for "Working Hard", I'm still getting used to it, but I like it. Obviously I had to replace "All I Live For" with the extended version on "The Rarities", what a difference. |
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Tommy's thoughts about MC30 (103,408)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 10 September 2023; 05:56) | | |
I was thinking today after looking at the album cover Mariah Carey. What are Tommy's thoughts in 2023 about MC's remarkable career? Does he have any regrets about how he kept such tight reins on MC? Does he have any regrets about marrrying MC? Was he trying too hard to mirror the record label executive relationship that Clive Davis and Whitney Houston had? Whatever he was trying to mirror worked extremely well until the music relationship became a physical relationship. I think the Emotions and Music Box albums were all about that physical relationship. The evidence is substantially real in Emotions, So Blessed, Music Box, Now That I Know, and I've Been Thinking About You. They were all about Tommy. |
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Music Box 30 CD (103,402)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 22:40) | | |
She is gonna make us wait until February 24th her store too. I can understand the 4LP but really the 3CD set. |
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This is a reply to message 103,397 by
Jamie from UK
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:13) | | |
Has anyone preordered this yet? It's saying shipping is February. If you have are you charged now or February? |
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Music Box - 3cd set availability (103,401)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 22:37) | | |
Hey Billy. Amazon and other independent record stores are able to pre-order 3cd and 4LP vinyl for fans for a February 24, 2024 release date which is supposedly a February Record Store Day. Check with your local independent record store. They've been sent ordering information from the wholesalers. |
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This is a reply to message 103,400 by
Billy from Greece
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 21:57) | | |
Is it only available on Mariah's site? What about Amazon or any other outlet? |
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Working Hard (Terry Hunter Remix) (103,395)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 20:41) | | |
It sort of reminds me how the David Morales club remixes start out with a fast beat with MC's ad libs and humming to let you know the vocals are going to be on fire. How we get the WH remix to the top of the dance chart? |
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This is a reply to message 103,394 by
Edward from USA
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 17:29) | | |
Working Hard Remix is on fire. I prefer it over the original.
I had a dream that Mariah had released the Papua New Guinea version of MB30 CD1 with "Randy's Theme" at the end. One can have a "Right to Dream". |
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Randy (103,392)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 9 September 2023; 14:17) | | |
Hey Randy. I am anxious to hear your thoughts about MB 30. I hope you have had a chance to listen to the masterpiece. |
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My Prayer (103,383)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 8 September 2023; 23:10) | | |
Brillant rendition. MC can definitely take a remake and make it her own. MC keep digging in that vault. |
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This is a reply to message 103,380 by
Andrew from United Kingdom
(Friday 8 September 2023; 18:05) | | |
It's anastonishing vocal performance. But I can't stop hearing Unchained Melody when the arpeggio kicks in. The song is great but - now don't shoot me - feels very out-dated, even for the 90s. |
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Music Box acapella (103,374)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 8 September 2023; 15:03) | | |
Music Box acapella is just beautiful. It has always been one of my favorite tracks on MB. All of the tracks on disc 2 really flow very well together. |
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It's here (103,363)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 8 September 2023; 06:32) | | |
Speechless. Mesmerizing. 90s Mariah perfecto. |
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This is a reply to message 103,359 by
Edward from USA
(Friday 8 September 2023; 01:19) | | |
How so? |
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Release date (103,344)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 22:22) | | |
Yes. Be ready on the website at 11:50pm Eastern because items are going to sell out quickly. |
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This is a reply to message 103,342 by
Jamie from UK
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 21:57) | | |
Seems it's coming out at midnight tonight? Thought it was tomorrow? |
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Clivillés and Cole (103,339)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 13:55) | | |
Does anyone know the backstory how this dynamic duo came to work with MC? I believe MC was looking for a producer to give her some uptempo hits for her second album. |
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This is a reply to message 103,335 by
enwar00 from usa
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 07:37) | | |
Haha it's funny because the past couple weeks I've been listening to my Seduction album that they made just before they hooked up with Mimi. To be honest I never realized she held Music Box this dearly to her. Thought she thought it was too basic or something. Then was almost thinking this is getting such a better treatment with the re-release because it's her highest seller. I guess I may be wrong. |
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Disc two (103,330)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 01:53) | | |
MC just tweeted the disc one tracklisting. You were right about EFA, Bill. Music Box will now get a proper ending for U.S. fans. I will be finding out tomorrow from Grimey's Record store in Nashville if the 3CD will be released to retailers Friday. I am just hoping it has been kept in warehouses all summer. |
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This is a reply to message 103,319 by
Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 6 September 2023; 23:31) | | |
Full tracklisting for the bonus disc:
1. All I Live For (extended version) 2. Endless Love (duet with Luther Vandross) 3. Do You Think of Me 4. Workin' Hard 5. My Prayer 6. Hero (2009 version) 7. Anytime You Need a Friend (extended mix) 8. Music Box (a capella) 9. Dreamlover (live from Top of the Pops) 10. Without You (live from Top of the Pops) 11. Dreamlover (Def Club Mix) 12. Anytime You Need a Friend (C&C Club Version) 13. Anytime You Need a Friend (Soul Convention Remix) 14. I've Been Thinking About You (Terry Hunter Remix) 15. Workin' Hard (Terry Hunter Remix)
This indicates that Everything Fades Away may be placed as track 11 on the regular album (its rightful place). I cannot wait for Friday. |
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Working Hard remix snippet? (103,328)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 01:14) | | |
It definitely sounds like the original is a Civilles and Cole production. She has been working in that vault all summer. |
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This is a reply to message 103,323 by
RJJ12 from USA
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:15) | | |
Since it's so close to the release date, here is a snippet DJ Terry Hunter played in July at a Chicago House Music Festival in July. |
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Music Box 30th Anniversary (103,322)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:14) | | |
The concert will be on digital platforms too. |
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This is a reply to message 103,318 by
Andrew from United Kingdom
(Wednesday 6 September 2023; 23:22) | | |
I must admit I don't really understand what is being released and how? Is Proctor's Theatre being released as an audio? If so, is it going on Spotify or do you have to actually purchase a hard copy? It's all pretty confusing. |
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Disc two (103,317)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 6 September 2023; 23:11) | | |
Go check out MC's Twitter page. She just released the tracklisting for disc 2. There is another new song called Workin Hard along with an extended version of All I Live For and an IBTAY remix. Disc 2 is 15 tracks. This MB 30th is better than The Rarities. |
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My Prayer - The Platters (103,313)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 5 September 2023; 01:17) | | |
Great post Pedro. My Prayer was a #1 hit on Billboard Top 100 and R&B charts in 1956. Glenn Miller and The Ink Spots covered it too. I did some investigated work myself and found one fan on PulseMariah said that it makes sense that My Prayer has not been registered in MC's name since she is not the writer for My Prayer. And it makes sense for 2.50 song length. It is very typical for songs in the 50s and 60s to be less than 3 minutes. I am really excited now. |
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This is a reply to message 103,310 by
Pedro from Brazil
(Tuesday 5 September 2023; 00:18) | | |
Some fans are speculating that Mariah's "My Prayer" is actually a cover of a song of the same name by the group "The Platters", because in the promotional video, Mariah's track lasts 2:50, which is similar to this one. What do you think, guys? |
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Re-recording Music Box 30 (103,309)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 5 September 2023; 00:07) | | |
My father couldn't understand why I wanted to watch the Golden Girls as teenager. He found out why when I was 20. Lol. |
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This is a reply to message 103,305 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 4 September 2023; 22:56) | | |
Blanche was something else. The ladies are iconic. May they all rest in peace. |
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Music Box vs. My Prayer (103,308)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 5 September 2023; 00:04) | | |
This theory makes better sense than mine. Does iTunes and Amazon update their websites with the tracklisting for upcoming Friday releases every Tuesday? |
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This is a reply to message 103,304 by
Bill from the UK
(Monday 4 September 2023; 19:13) | | |
I like this theory. |
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