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About Orkun from The Netherlands: Musician

The 2's (49,148) by Orkun from The Netherlands Mr. Nick Cannon. You are eternally 2. 2 refers to how many faces you have, at least. 2 refers to "my 2 cents", which you are not even worth. 2 refers to You Don't Belong Together. 2 refers to Thirsty. 2 refers to "we don't have to like you unwillingly anymore". 2 refers to "MC2", which means MC is the queen and you're just a square that's written so small, no one cares for you. 2 stands for father and son. That's an even smaller square than yours. Did his book sell 1 more copy? Wow. Personal best. Too late. You disgust me. (Tuesday 13 January 2015; 20:01)

Edward / MCArchives (48,707) by Orkun from The Netherlands I hear you Edward. Crystal clear. Very nice post(s). In addition, one might indeed wonder about the decline of MC Daily website, as you stated, since Mariah's people are running it now. Clear example of mis-management in front of our bare naked eyes. I've been visiting this MCA website for years too. Now it's like my only Mariah source almost. Also a thumbs up to Eric from me. Let's be honest, it's tough. I'm not missing MC Daily anymore. Though for a while, I was singing "Un-thumb my heart" (Yea, corny joke, yikes). Merry Pre-Christmas to all. Peace. (Monday 22 December 2014; 8:09)

Andrew and qhm (48,687) by Orkun from The Netherlands I like qhm's message to Andrew. Seems very nice to me. I like Andrew's posts. Edgy? Yes. He says it as he sees it and I like it. Andrew, I'm fully cool with your posts. Without your posts, it wouldn't be as exiting to read messages. But hey, that's me. I can only speak for myself obviously. In my opinion, some fans just aren't able to hear the details in vocals. Technically I mean. When it's lipped, they really think it's live. Ironically, when it's live, we know it's live. No debate there. I think Mariah is improving but the problem is this: We have been "fooled" too many times over the past 10 years with lip sync on high notes. Now she is getting more real again. One step at a time. And I really think she will get there. The parts she truly sings live now, are getting better compared to the same live parts of the last 10 years. That's a fact. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 14:21)

Marissa/Edward (48,622) by Orkun from The Netherlands Marissa, your message was indeed spot on. Edward, your message about Marissa's and your additional points were spot on too, big time. Very clear, very true. I thought I'd just jump on the same boat. That makes it a "hat-trick". Yea I know, it's a soccer term. Lol. Jokes aside, I definitely am on the same page as you guys. (Friday 19 December 2014; 0:37)

Debbie Gibson (48,368) by Orkun from The Netherlands Actually, I was (still am) a big fan of a song of her. You really should check her out. She came out before Mariah got famous. Both girls are from Long Island btw. If you like Mariah, you'll love this song. It's called "Foolish Beat" by Debbie Gibson. Duet together on this song? Definitely. It's a classic to be rediscovered. And I have to say: Debbie Gibson? Such a sweetheart and such a classy lady. (Sunday 7 December 2014; 13:58)

Unknown Mariah song (48,036) by Orkun from The Netherlands Hi all. Totally by "coincidence" I bought a budget album a while ago and it had a song on it, written by Mariah. You may know it, you may not know it. But for the fans, I'm sending the info. I don't know how to post a YouTube video directly on here. It's sung by Penny Ford, the ex-leadsinger of Snap, who also happens to be a regular dancer on Madonna's tours. It's called [...]. What I like about it is that you can hear it's a Mariah song of that particular time. Peace, always. (Monday 24 November 2014; 12:54)

The female opening act (47,790) by Orkun from The Netherlands Looking at this girl's response, I'd say Mariah knew this before hand and eliminated the deal. Mariah saw through her. I love it. Girl, you're thirsty. (Tuesday 4 November 2014; 11:33)

Abraham, please (47,694) by Orkun from The Netherlands No need to get dirty. Edward says what he feels in a very open and polite way as always. And so does Stacey. Sentences like "your girlfriend Stacey" are not nice. We are all friends here even if I know you hate me, we are friends. Hatred is one sided. G.G. may not be my biggest fan on this board but I'm with GG on this one. Share your thoughts, and allow others too. It ain't that hard either. We all want to be heard and this is our platform. (Thursday 30 October 2014; 23:34)

Edward (47,674) by Orkun from The Netherlands Sued over 30 Filippino's? Ironically, if true, that's good news. I was smiling reading your post. (Thursday 30 October 2014; 14:31)

Mara, so true (47,670) by Orkun from The Netherlands Mariah can only be compared to herself since she is in a league she rules. No one can deny that. She is definitely improving and you calling this a "rebirth" is very much in place. She lips less and getting back in shape like 3 steps at a time. Perfect? No. Better? Oh yes. To me, it looks like she is back on earth. It's sweet that Sharon Osbourne defended her by saying "She could have lipped the whole thing but she chose not to." It was a very nice save but I don't agree. It's a concert. And no, she couldn't have lipped the whole thing. Mariah is recreating/remembering her inner fire. Back to basics. To me, these are signals of a huge comeback with a new album. We can smell the victory already. It's very very near. Time to get that new number one and bring the "tying Elvis/surpassing Elvis" debate to an end. Yes, I care about the charts. Round 12, knock-out time. (Thursday 30 October 2014; 9:04)

Marisa / Edward (47,574) by Orkun from The Netherlands Appreciated. Very true. Thank you. (Friday 24 October 2014; 11:50)

Sabotage (47,559) by Orkun from The Netherlands As a final reminder, please please be aware of sabotagers who really get paid for what they do. I'm not calling names. Just putting the topic out there. So please be aware of the situation. It's real. Just look at how you feel lately when you come to this messageboard. Think. There is your answer. Don't look at the words written. Or the name. Look at the intention behind it before you give a thumbs up or skip. I give thumbs up to messages some of you won't even expect. Even sometimes the ones which are directed at me, when it's well written with good intention. This is a Mariah message board. But the "in your face, haters" messages or "I love Mariah" messages don't get the thumbs up one would expect. 10? 20? Shouldn't it be more? It's the easiest way to get thumbs up on a fan board. Sabotage much? We all know how to do it. It's the easiest thing. Some crave the thumbs up, no matter the cost, and some crave their messages to be read and to be heard. Know the difference please. You may be supporting people who, in real, hate Mariah. Every word of mine is sincere I swear. Peace. (Thursday 23 October 2014; 11:23)

Baby / Jono (47,558) by Orkun from The Netherlands Baby, perfectly written message. Great sum up. Jono, you attacked me personally. I read your last post and I agree with what you say. I'm sorry you got bullied in the past which I think 99% of this board has gone through. You have attacked me, my profession (life coach), and have tried to gang up against me with some people. Here is the story: I got bullied as a child. That made me a life coach to protect myself and others who suffer from the same. Of course, Mariah was there for me too. And as a Mariah fan, I am not expecting a "congratulations" but respect. You seemed to have chosen the other option. Bullying back. That is how you came across to me. Your last post was nice and very well written. Let's all move on. (Thursday 23 October 2014; 9:58)

May (47,545) by Orkun from The Netherlands Yes I hear you. Thank you. I'm sure some people really were writing overly negative and I might have missed it. Thank you for the clear up. Appreciated. (Wednesday 22 October 2014; 16:01)

Tiny correction (47,544) by Orkun from The Netherlands Everyone, in my last post, there is a smiley at the end that got there by accident. It wasn't my intention. I noticed it after the post. My post was very serious and I would never put a big smiley face at the end of a serious, good intended message. Please ignore the smiley. Thank you. (Wednesday 22 October 2014; 15:56)

RJJ12, Mariah and more (47,539) by Orkun from The Netherlands Thank you for your post, I couldnt agree more. I was honestly very surprised about the "haters" topic yet again. And I also agree about your reasoning why there are less posts. To some: who are the invisible haters? I haven't seen even one here. Without any judgement, looks like some are fighting their inner demon. Not with any of us. Who and where is the enemy? Its really funny. Some create unexisting haters and when Mariah hits a note, they think the haters are crushed. Maybe they are crushed indeed. Who knows? Again, to some people I say: if you wanna attack haters that actually do exist, why on this messegeboard? Maybe some of you have been ganged up against in other forums and left. And here you want to gang up against people who are not here. It's like searching for a pen at home which you lost in the grocery store. I sincerely believe some among us are getting paid to sabotage. It's a real existing job. And they know who they are. Not all. Some. I'm not falling for that. Mariah will survive all, you'll see. Enjoy your paycheck. (Wednesday 22 October 2014; 13:31)

Joho? (47,535) by Orkun from The Netherlands Some people try to destroy MC's carrier by getting on blogs and write seemingly "positive" but they are ill intended and they are getting paid for it. Are you one of them? Talking about haters all the time, while there is none on this board, makes you creepy. You don't come here for Mariah. You keep talking about haters, we have heard you. Popular phrase of yours: time for you to move on. It's really getting old. Very old. Creating "haters" that don't exist and replying to them is only a game in your head. This is a Mariah board. If you want to aim at haters, go write on That Grape Juice. Then it might actually mean something. Yes, they might pay you too. You're always angry and defensive. I toned my messeges down. That's called respect. but no, it's not enough for you. Without haters, what will you be writing? Keep on creating drama. Most of us will keep it real and won't let sneaky bloggers destroy her carrier. Period. (Wednesday 22 October 2014; 9:34)

Better (47,501) by Orkun from The Netherlands The Emotions video posted on here sounds much much better. Mainly live and stronger voice, better pitch. The whistles are lipped. The rest is live. I dont like the "hey, hey"s she does so often much but that's me. Now I understand that she has not been on vocal rest but that she just hasn't sung for a long time. Now she is training her voice again. So she should keep singing. From what I hear, seems like she got like 5 notes back which she struggled with before and seems more confident. Now we are finally getting somewhere, step by step, back to the top, where she obviously belongs. Less gimmicks, more natural talent. (Sunday 19 October 2014; 19:31)

Re-introduction / Andrew (47,464) by Orkun from The Netherlands This is my first post in a few months. I left writing messages, not visiting the website. I read comments and check the news. Many of you bullied me and at some point, even the webmaster to my surprise. Although we have difference of opinions, I never disrespected anyone and you know it. I do want to thank the webmaster, inspite of differences we have, he never ever censored my messages and did let me speak. The truth must be said. So an open thank you to him for this. Back to business: Andrew, some put you and me in the same category. And they are right. My posts were very similar to yours and I take it as a compliment. You joined the message board right after I left. I yet have to find a post of yours that I disagree with. To me, you are someone who honestly loves Mariah. And for that, you use tough love sometimes. Same here. How some think we are full of hatered is beyond me. Everyone is a Mariah fan here. So to some I say: Step out of your blamer ego and get real. Nice Mariah story? 1998, Mariah in The Netherlands. I was there. I couldn't believe how amazingly beautiful she was in person. She was a little bended to the table to sign and she looked at me. I was speechless. No words. She kept looking at me and laid back and gave me a big big smile, knowing I was starstruck, she said: Yes? (still smiling big time) I said eventually the following : "T-t-thank you f-f-or your music." She kept smiling, giving me the Janet Jackson smile. Thats what I miss. Get it? (Thursday 16 October 2014; 21:21)