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Re: The Marammys (92,574) (92,584) by Will from Australia
(Saturday 25 January 2020; 00:06)
Great addition Edward and a tough one but I've gone back into the vault for one that, if released at the time would've taken over the airwaves.

Single that wasn't but should've been: Till The End Of Time
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Re: Charmbracelet (92,580) (92,583) by Licia from USA
(Friday 24 January 2020; 23:40)
Subtle Invitation never grabbed me. It's a nice song , but I skip it a lot.
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Re: Charmbracelet (92,578) (92,582) by Andrew from UK
(Friday 24 January 2020; 22:20)
I got it anyway.
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Re: Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,574) (92,581) by Andrew from UK
(Friday 24 January 2020; 22:16)
Eddie, I mostly agree with you. But some alterations:

Album (of the career): Butterfly
Power ballad: All I've Ever Wanted
Beautiful vocal ballad: Whenever You Call
Up-Tempo: Fantasy (non-rap)
Mid-Tempo: You Don't Know What To Do (is this mid tempo?)
Cover: The Beautiful Ones (the "I may not know, I may not know" part is everything and everything after)
Rare: Everything Fades Away (it's not rare for Europeans but it's still puts the awe in awesome)
Lyrical: Languishing (baring your soul has never been so simple or subtle or moving.)
Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time)
Duet/Feature: Hero at Pavarotti and Friends (I don't have the words to describe it. The humility on her face, the wonder in his eyes, the harmony, the brave performance when she was clearly scrapping herself. That was Mariah sans bullshit. My dad, who hated her, said "wow". I have played it to death.)
Live Performance: Anytime You Need A Friend (live at Proctors theatre - My brother, when he was 16 years old, watched it on VHS and said "I've never seen a person get so into her music" and I never forgot it. It was the first time I saw Mariah, also. We all sat aghast. We three brothers all later went on to travel to London to see Mariah in 1999.)
Uptempo Remix: My All ("feel your body feel your body feel your body baby baby" - nothing beats the first time hearing that level of genius)
R&B Remix: Honey (So So Def) (Its better than the original - the screaming st the end is fuh kin A.

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Single that wasn't but should've been: You Don't Know What To Do (would've put her back on the map)
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Re: Charmbracelet (92,580) by Jeff from USA
(Friday 24 January 2020; 22:13)
Licia, you don't like Subtle Invitation? That's one of the highlights on CB for me. I agree with you on You Got Me; that's a great song.

I love the story behind Sunflowers more than I like the actual song. I don't think it was a good one vocally, but I can understand that emotion makes it difficult to sing.
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Re: Charmbracelet (92,575) (92,579) by Licia from USA
(Friday 24 January 2020; 20:47)
I agree with most of your list, but I would take out Sunflowers (sad song I've only listened to once), I Only Wanted (not a fav), and Subtle Invitation (that one is meh to me). I'd add back You Got Me and You Had Your Chance. I'd also add The One remix at the add. Vocally it sucks (that's the one vocal CB moment where I cringed), but I love the use of the Goodbye Love sample by Guy. The only order of the songs I'd change is MSG has to be first for me. That's my song.
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Re: Charmbracelet (92,577) (92,578) by Tijl from Belgium
(Friday 24 January 2020; 15:26)
That should have been "tantrum". Lol.
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Re: Charmbracelet (92,575) (92,577) by Tijl from Belgium
(Friday 24 January 2020; 15:02)
Be careful to use "cohesive body of work". Some people get into a trantrum.
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Re: The Marammys (92,574) (92,576) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 24 January 2020; 14:58)
Single that wasn't but should've been: Migrate
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Charmbracelet (92,575) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 24 January 2020; 13:50)
I've been thinking about this album a lot lately (waves to Licia), and what it would take for me to engage with it fully. Part of the problem I have with it is the length of the album and the hushed/whispering vocals. My revised tracklisting would be as follows:

1. Through the Rain
2. The One (without rap version)
3. I Know What You Want
4. Yours
5. I Only Wanted
6. Clown
7. My Saving Grace
8. Subtle Invitation
9. Bringin' On the Heartbreak (single version)
10. Sunflowers
11. Through the Rain (remix)

I've axed a lot of the filler and I think its condensed length makes it a more cohesive body of work. I upgraded IKWYW to a proper track rather than a bonus one, and included the single versions for BOTH and The One. I might go turn this into a playlist now actually.
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Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,574) by Edward from USA
(Friday 24 January 2020; 13:35)
Album (of the career): Butterfly
Ballad: All I've Ever Wanted
Up-Tempo: Fantasy (Non-rap)
Mid-Tempo: One & Only
Cover: The Beautiful Ones
Rare: Everything Fades Away
Lyrical: Butterfly
Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time)
Duet/Feature: Endless Love
Live Performance: If It's Over (live from: Grammy Awards 1992)
Uptempo Remix: Honey (Morales Remix)
R&B Remix: Thank God I Found You (Make It Last)

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Single that wasn't but should've been: Migrate
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Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,573) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 January 2020; 12:31)
This is a great topic. I have been so busy with work this week, who started this topic? Kudos.
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Re: Grammys (92,565) (92,572) by Musti from UK
(Friday 24 January 2020; 10:53)
I hope something good comes out of this. I doubt that document is legit. Definitely a fan's type-up rather than a document with legal arguments. But at least it's cooking up quite well. Twitter seems pretty angry.
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Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,571) by Tijl from Belgium
(Friday 24 January 2020; 10:52)
Uptempo Remix: H.A.T.E.U. ( Jump Smokers Remix )
R&B Remix: My All/Stay Awhile (So So Def Remix) featuring Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz
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Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,570) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 24 January 2020; 07:53)
Worthy additional categories Stacey (thumbs up):

Club Remix: Dreamlover (Def Club Mix)
R&B Remix: I Still Believe (Pure Imagination Remix)
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Re: The Marammys (92,566) (92,569) by Will from Australia
(Friday 24 January 2020; 00:57)
I’m loving everyone’s varying taste, and thanks Stacey for adding more categories.

Uptempo Remix: Heartbreaker/If You Should Ever Be Lonely (Junior’s Heartbreaker Club Dub)
R&B Remix: We Belong Together (Remix)
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Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,568) by Pablo from Spain
(Friday 24 January 2020; 00:32)
Album (of the career): Butterfly
Ballad: Till the End of Time
Up-Tempo: Migrate
Mid-Tempo: Breakdown
Cover: El amor que soñé (Spanish Open Arms)
Rare: Imperfect
Lyrical: Breakdown
Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You
Duet/Feature: The Beautiful Ones
Live Performance: Petals (Rosie O Donnell) is the one that has always stuck in my mind.

**Adding another two categories, favorite remixes.**

Uptempo Remix: H.A.T.E. U Jumpsmokers
R&B Remix: My All/Stay Awhile
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The Marammys (92,566) (92,567) by ADAM from USA
(Friday 24 January 2020; 00:27)
This is a fun game. See my answers below

Album (of the career): Daydream
Ballad: Can't Let Go
Up-Tempo: Fantasy (original)
Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby
Cover: Without You
Rare: Slipping Away
Lyrical: Outside
Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You
Duet/Feature: I'll Be There
Live Performance: Anytime You Need A Friend (TOTP)
Uptempo Remix: Can't Take That Away (Morales Remix)
R&B Remix: ABMB (ft. Da Brat & Xscape)
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Re: The Marammys (92,562) (92,566) by Stacey from USA
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 23:19)
Album (of the career): Daydream (duh)
Ballad: Till the End of Time
Up-Tempo: Fantasy (original)
Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby
Cover: The Beautiful Ones
Rare: Slipping Away
Lyrical: We Belong Together
Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You
Duet/Feature: I'll Be There
Live Performance: Butterfly (Saturday Night Live)

**Adding another two categories, favorite remixes.**

Uptempo Remix: Honey (Morales Remix)
R&B Remix: ABMB (ft. Da Brat & Xscape)
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Re: Grammys (92,561) (92,565) by RibbonB from USA
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 21:38)
I just read the same tweet, but amended by a Barb to have Nicki's name and Chun Li as AOTY. Lol, also fan fiction.
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Re: The Marammys (92,563) (92,564) by amends from Germany
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 18:54)
Album (of the career): Butterfly
Ballad: Outside
Up-Tempo: It’s like that
Mid-Tempo: We belong together
Cover: O holy night
Rare: Slipping away
Lyrical: Close my eyes
Christmas: Miss you most
Duet/Feature: Oh come all ye faithful (I get goosebumps every single time)
Live Performance: Anytime you need a friend Tokyo
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Re: The Marammys (92,563) by Jeff from USA
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 14:59)
Just for laughs.

Album (of the career): Butterfly
Ballad: My All
Up-Tempo: Fantasy (Remix)
Mid-Tempo: WBT
Cover: BOTH
Rare: Looking In
Lyrical: Close My Eyes
Christmas: AIWFCIY
Duet/Feature: When You Believe
Live Performance: Emotions (1991 VMAs)
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Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,562) by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 13:06)
Love a list.

Album (of the career): Butterfly even though it's not my fave
Ballad: Till the End of Time
Up-Tempo: Fantasy (original)
Mid-Tempo: Always Be My Baby
Cover: I'll Be There
Rare: Slipping Away
Lyrical: The Roof
Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You
Duet/Feature: Endless Love
Live Performance: If It's Over (Saturday Night Live)
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Re: Grammys (92,559) (92,561) by Musti from UK
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 10:44)
Caution was probably considered for the R&B categories. I'm prepared the believe the AOTY consideration too, seeing how they robbed her throughout her career and maybe thought it's about time they gave her her moment. It's no secret that a lot of sketchy politics come into play when it comes to the Grammys. Look no further than 2006. And I'm really not surprised these news are not all over Google yet as the Grammys are more than likely trying to keep it under wraps or try to burn Deborah Dugan wherever it has leaked.
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Re: The Marammys (92,547) (92,560) by Tijl from Belgium
(Thursday 23 January 2020; 09:55)
Album (of the career): Butterfly
Ballad: Lead The Way
Up-Tempo: Fantasy
Mid-Tempo: Say Somethin'
Cover: Bringin' On The Heartbreak
Rare: Petals
Lyrical: Close My Eyes
Christmas: All I Want For Christmas Is You
Duet/Feature: When You Believe
Live Performance: Daydream tour
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