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Re: When Mariah lipsyncs (94,481) (94,487) by ktktkt from Philippines
(Thursday 2 July 2020; 17:02)
When she lips, her mouth makes some exaggerated moves and tends to open more unlike when she's actually singing.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,485) (94,486) by MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 2 July 2020; 10:23)
I love her "lower" tone too. Like you said it sounds more natural. On her first two albums her voice is so rich and magical. Pure Mariah.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,484) (94,485) by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 2 July 2020; 09:16)
Yep. I always thought Alto Mariah was better too which is why I love the first two albums so much as well. It sits more naturally, and her voice on the first album is incredible. If you strip out all the production her voice sounds so rich and full bodied and has this superb tone that went away by 1993. America the Beautiful is the best example of that. It sounds like there are two Mariah's singing.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,483) (94,484) by The Real Deal from USA
(Wednesday 1 July 2020; 19:39)
A major reason why I enjoy her debut and Emotions so much is the lower tone of her register. She sings in a deeper voice on the first two albums and in my opinion, her lower voice is so much richer. I have noticed that recently in her concerts, she has been reverting back to that tone on some songs, which is great.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,482) (94,483) by MusicfanJ from Germany
(Wednesday 1 July 2020; 19:04)
Yup, the debut is really great vocally. It's not so perfect like Emotions or Music Box and Daydream. But songs like "VOL", "Vanishing", "AAIL", "LTT" and "Sent from up above" are definitily music highlights. That she was so young when the album was released makes it even more stunning. And I do love the 80ies vibe of "Prisoner". See ya.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,469) (94,482) by The Real Deal from USA
(Tuesday 30 June 2020; 23:10)
I can understand why her debut is ranked so high for vocals. Mariah Carey (debut) was #1 on Billboard 200 1991 year end charts. Music Box was #2 on Billboard 200 1994 year end charts. Daydream was #2 on Billboard 200 1996 year end charts.
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Re: When Mariah lipsyncs (94,479) (94,481) by Tijl from Belgium
(Tuesday 30 June 2020; 20:10)
The eyebrows not moving has more to do with Botox, I guess. On the matter of lipsync: the less she is posing, the more she is really singing.
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Re: When Mariah lipsyncs (94,479) (94,480) by Bill from the UK
(Tuesday 30 June 2020; 19:49)
Any performance post-1997.
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When Mariah lipsyncs (94,479) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
(Tuesday 30 June 2020; 17:50)
What is your give away to tell when Mariah lipsyncs? For me it is her eye brows, when her eye brows don't move, she is lip syncing.
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Re: Hidden meaning of Don't Forget About Us (94,477) (94,478) by enwar00 from usa
(Tuesday 30 June 2020; 05:32)
Who says stuff like that?
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Re: Hidden meaning of Don't Forget About Us (94,476) (94,477) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 29 June 2020; 22:55)
Bill, until now I always thought you were some middle age fan. Lol. It is good to see your young looking face.
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Re: Hidden meaning of Don't Forget About Us (94,475) (94,476) by Bill from the UK
(Monday 29 June 2020; 19:29)
Lol, it's even mentioned in his bio. Get over it. Say Somethin' was 15 years ago ffs.
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Re: Hidden meaning of Don't Forget About Us (94,474) (94,475) by The webmaster from the Netherlands
(Monday 29 June 2020; 16:00)
Lord knows how many times you already told us that you're in the Say Somethin' remix. Aren't you getting sick of telling us this again? I know I am. I've checked it, and the first time you said this was in November 2018, almost 2 years ago.
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Hidden meaning of Don't Forget About Us (94,474) by Lafa from Sweden
(Monday 29 June 2020; 15:52)
I know what Don't Forget About Us is about, truly. Me and only me (and Mariah) knows it. She told me back then when I was in my teens on MSN Messenger, when she featured me in Say Somethin' (So So Def Remix). I'm sorry but I can't reveal it.
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Melody VR app (94,473) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 29 June 2020; 15:48)
Did anybody catch the JoJo concert Saturday night on the Melody VR app? If you didn't, go sign up for an account. The whole concert is on up on the app and it is free. The sound and picture is unbelievable. JoJo is a great vocalist. She added some whistle notes on her song Man near the end. She sings some incredible vocals throughtout the 9 song set. Check it out today and let me know your thoughts about the app and JoJo.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,469) (94,472) by TJ from Norway
(Sunday 28 June 2020; 21:37)
Try to listen to it. It is so good. Maybe you change your mind. I hope so.
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Re: Jessie Ware - What's Your Pleasure? (94,468) (94,471) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
(Sunday 28 June 2020; 17:14)
Oh so you actually weren't being sarcastic the first time?

Whatever expertise or knowledge I may appear to have or know is still very limited considering the vast universe of music out there. Writing reviews entails more than just having an encyclopedic knowledge of music to pull easy and detailed references from. And there definitely are many people in this board (yourself included) who can express their thoughts more eloquently than I can ever muster. I can only write about either what I appreciate or what I don't. Make me write anything that falls in between those extremes (which encompasses a lot of what I listen to) and I won't be able to say anything interesting (or anything at all). And to me, a true music reviewer/critic/journalist wouldn't have to struggle that much. But that's quite nice especially coming from you, as you tend to be sparing with your praises. I'm content with being the resident pretentious occasional music critic here. Haha. At least I still have an outlet to geek out on without having to create a blog or resorting to social media.

I'm positive that Martyn was way better at it and he sure is missed.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,462) (94,470) by Bill from the UK
(Sunday 28 June 2020; 10:40)
Best to worst:

1. Merry Christmas
2. Emotions
3. Mariah Carey
4. Music Box
5. Daydream
6. Butterfly
7. Rainbow
8. Glitter
9. The Emancipation of Mimi
10. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel
11. Merry Christmas II You
12. Charmbracelet
13. Me I Am Mariah
14. E=MC2
15. Caution

Shocked to not see Emotions higher up on some of the lists.

Vocal highlights:

1. Mariah Carey (Vision of Love)
2. Emotions (And You Don't Remember)
3. Music Box (Anytime You Need a Friend)
4. Merry Christmas (All I Want for Christmas Is You)
5. Daydream (Fantasy)
6. Butterfly (The Roof)
7. Rainbow (Can't Take That Away)
8. Glitter (Lead the Way)
9. Charmbracelet (My Saving Grace)
10. The Emancipation of Mimi (Fly Like a Bird)
11. E=MC2 (I Wish You Well)
12. Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel (I Want to Know What Love Is)
13. Merry Christmas II You (O Come All Ye Faithful)
14. Me I Am Mariah (Make It Look Good)
15. Caution (With You)
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,464) (94,469) by Andrew from UK
(Saturday 27 June 2020; 21:07)
To you and to TJ, I just can't get on board with the vocals from the debut era. I don't much like the album (or the cover). The vocal is too shaky and lacks the warm velvet tone or accessible elasticity that was to come. Even in the live performances, the vocals shake and Mariah's singing style is more about delivery than emotion, I think. And live performances especially make me a little unrelaxed with lyrics ending in "-uh". E.g.: "Treated me kiiiin-duh/ Sweet destinyyyyy-uh".

It surprises me to see so many people like the debut album. It really surprises me to see people vote it on top of the albums that followed for vocals. I never bought it, not once in my life. I pretended that Mariah started with Emotions. Maybe after all this time I should give it another go.

Can I ask you both why the vocals on this particular album were in your top 2? Genuinely. I just don't get it, at the moment. It may help me try to appreciate it. I never wanted to not like it.
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Re: Jessie Ware - What's Your Pleasure? (94,465) (94,468) by Andrew from UK
(Saturday 27 June 2020; 21:00)
Said it before and I'll say it again: you have a superb pop music knowledge and you write really well. You should do reviews for a publication. Martyn did it. Why not you? A.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,466) (94,467) by Andrew from UK
(Saturday 27 June 2020; 20:58)
I like your game. Best actual vocal performance show Mariah's voice off to an alien from each album, what would you play?

I struggled with some of these - simply because I don't really favour some of the songs, like Fly Like A Bird. And for Merry Christmas I thought I would put O Holy Night for the power or Miss You Most for the emotiveness, but I agree with Jesus Oh What... she sings that masterfully.

1. Mariah Carey (Love Takes Time)
2. Emotions (Till The End Of Time)
3. MTV Unplugged (If It’s Over)
4. Music Box (All I’ve Ever Wanted)
5. Merry Christmas (Jesus Oh What A Wonderful Child)
6. Daydream (I Am Free)
7. Butterfly (Whenever You Call)
8. No.1’s (When You Believe)
9. Rainbow (Against All Odd (Take A Look At Me Now))
10. Glitter OST (Lead The Way)
11. Charmbracelet (Bringin’ On The Heartbreak)
12.a The Remixes Disc 1 (Fantasy (Def Club Mix))
12.b The Remixes Disc 2 (Honey (So So Def Mix))
13. The Emancipation of Mimi (Fly Like A Bird)
14. E=MC2 (I Wish You Well)
15. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (I Want To Know What Love Is)
16. Merry Christmas II You (The First Noel)
17. Me. I am Mariah. The Elusive Chanteuse (Heavenly (No Ways Tired/Can’t Give Up Now))
18. Caution (With You)

It's funny thinking about individual track vocals rather than albums as a whole. E=MC2 doesn't seem to be popular for the vocals. But I Wish You Well has a beautiful vocal and tonal quality that wasn't translated across the rest of the music due to the nature of the songs. Imagine if it had been so, instead of the octave jumps Mariah started to rely upon to climax.

William, I'm sorry, forgive me. You know I'm a contentious twat lol. I miss your lists. You can hate me from afar but the world needs your lists, buddy.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,463) (94,466) by ktktkt from Philippines
(Saturday 27 June 2020; 18:38)
1. Daydream (highlight - I am Free)
2. Merry Christmas (highlight - Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child)
3. Music Box (highlight - Never Forget You)
4. Butterfly (highlight - Outside)
5. Glitter (highlight - Lead the Way)
6. Charmbracelet (highlight - Subtle Invitation)
7. TEOM (highlight - Circles)
8. E=MC2 (highlight - Last Kiss)
9. Mariah Carey (highlight - Prisoner)
10. MOAIA (highlight - Candy Bling)
11. Caution (highlight - With You)
12. Emotions (highlight - And You Don’t Remember)
13. Merry Christmas II You (highlight - When Christmas Comes)
14. Rainbow (highlight - Heartbreaker)
15. Me. I am Mariah (highlight - Make It Look Good)
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Jessie Ware - What's Your Pleasure? (94,465) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
(Saturday 27 June 2020; 06:01)
Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia is one of the best pop albums in recent years. Very unapologetically upfront with its influences and ambitions, it succeeds in living up to the promise of its title. However, as immensely fun as it is, it, just like Lady Gaga's Chromatica, can come across as quite brash and can be quite fatiguing.

Jessie's fourth album, which marks a return to her dance diva roots. What's Your Pleasure? is a mostly disco and 80's synth pop affair which sounds just as homogenous as it is varied. Jessie approaches each track with an elegant soulfulness reminiscent of Lisa Stansfield. It's mostly upbeat, but at just the right tempo that is maintained throughout the album; and even in the slower tracks, the beats take a step back to hushed, simmering grooves and lush instrumentation. The beats, even at their most severe, are hardly pounding or banging. The entire project is ethereal, intoxicating and sophisticated, and Jessie's vocals are strong yet understated, bringing what pop in the last few years has been sorely lacking - finesse. There's a lot to like: a longer version of the classy Spotlight, the cool Step Into My Life, and on the slower side, the hypnotic In Your Eyes, and the lovely closer Remember Where You Are.

Nothing here beats her early hit Running, but this collection is the closest she has gotten to achieving that level of magic.

What would it take for Mariah to make a beat-driven album without any real ballads. If Madonna can pull it off, I don't see any reason why she can't.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,463) (94,464) by MusicfanJ from Germany
(Friday 26 June 2020; 13:39)
TJ that would be exatly my list. I would only switch Nr.1 Mariah Carey with Nr. 2 Music Box.
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Re: Ranking Mariah Carey albums vocally (94,462) (94,463) by TJ from Norway
(Friday 26 June 2020; 11:41)
1. Mariah Carey
2. Music Box
3. Merry Christmas
4. Emotions
5. Daydream
6. Glitter
7. Butterfly
8. TEOM
9. Rainbow
10. MOAIA
11. E=MC2
12. Charmbracelet
13. Merry Christmas II You
14. Me. I am Mariah
15. Caution
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