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New album (109,725) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It definitely had the potential. It was a very catchy song, you could sing along to it, it screams summer and Mariah looked breath taking in the video. (Monday 14 July 2025; 12:07) this is a reply to message 109,722

New album (109,722) by TJ from Norway I remember being sure that IBLULT would go to number one. I loved that sound. It was clearly, just me. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:01)

Unpopular opinions (109,724) by TJ from Norway I thought it was VOL they wanted for Whitney. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:08) this is a reply to message 109,718

Unpopular opinions (109,718) by Bill from the UK You're right there was a bidding war to sign her between Warners and, as it was back then, CBS records. When the "demo tape incident" happened at the party Brenda K Starr took her to, MC was already in negotiations with WB. I've no idea what numbers each party threw in, but all Mariah ever said about it was that it was CBS allowing her to write her own songs that sealed it for her. I think they could have even offered less money and she still would have gone with them on that element alone. Clive Davis actually tried to buy the song Someday for Whitney, it was then that Mariah realised she could indeed write a good pop song and rather than selling it (as tempting as it was for a young girl "without a penny to her name") she retained it for herself and it gave her even more determination to become an artist in her own right. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:33)

New album (109,723) by TJ from Norway Isn't that the one time they did it right? Every detail was planned from outfits, music, videos and so on. It's been messy most of the time after that. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:05) this is a reply to message 109,715

New album (109,715) by Haiji from United States I'm trying to remember if the rollout to Mimi was like this era. Was it like this when ILT was dropped? (Sunday 13 July 2025; 17:48)

New album (109,722) by TJ from Norway I remember being sure that IBLULT would go to number one. I loved that sound. It was clearly, just me. (Monday 14 July 2025; 08:01) this is a reply to message 109,710

New album (109,710) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "For the record". For me it's the best song of the album. E=MC2 is really the perfect summer album. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:14)

New album (109,721) by Jamie from UK Wise words. (Monday 14 July 2025; 06:34) this is a reply to message 109,717

New album (109,717) by Shezz from Pk Bobby A, Edward is 100% right. Even if she released Fantasy right now it really wouldn't do much. Secondly I think we need to trust their process. They have a plan plus they're probably still working a few things out. I'd rather she finish everything right than announce the album prematurely and then delay it later. Plus she's not going to have a mega pop star roll out. 6 weeks ago we thought she was done, that she'd never release anything again and that there was something gravely wrong with her. A week later she gave us a brand new single and said MC16 is on its way, did numerous radio appearances and BET, performed at Capital FM, released one of her better videos in the last 15 years, rpartaked in a confused chaotic song with Barbra, Walter and Ariana and then just released a remix ep with some pretty good remixes. All in the last 5 weeks after being mostly out of action for 7 years. Cut MC and Gamma some slack. She knows what she's doing. The next single will be out soon and so will the album announcement. No amount of promotional blitz will make it perform along the level of the current stars but the music will be there for you to enjoy regardless. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:13)

New album (109,720) by Lambi from USA I don't know, the Type Dangerous music video is so grand. The writings on the wall says she's ready to burn everything down to the ground just to get that 20th number one. The production looks just as expensive as the latest AIWFCIY video. She's really not playing around. And the fact that she left Roc Nation, Jay-Z's company, says something. Not sure why this detail matters but homeboy is married to someone who tends to overshadow just about everyone in the industry. Mariah probably woke up to this but one thing is clear, she is fully done letting her hits go unnoticed. I don't fault her though, A No No will always be the bop that got away. Her move to Gamma feels just like 97, when homegirl flew all the way to Japan to meet directly with the higher-ups at Sony, the ones above Tommy, just to take control of her career and handle her label issues. It has that same lady boss energy. I believe Mariah probably just had another rude awakening with T:D. It turns out, it's not all about marketing, you need to have a really good song. Like when "My All" came out, it was just objectively good, same feeling you got when Bieber released "Love Yourself". I know MC still got something up her sleeve. She already found a company that's willing to drop bank, which is 50% of the battle, now she just needs to deliver with an undeniably good song and a sharper marketing strategy. If she locks both in, that 20th number one isn't out of reach at all. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 21:06) this is a reply to message 109,708

New album (109,708) by Edward from USA Bobby A, Mariah is a legacy artist, just like many others were when she was on her prime. MC16 will probably come and go like "Caution" did. No matter how many appearances she makes, it won't make much of a difference. To be fair, she was promoting consistently when TD came out and, lipped or not, she put on a great and energetic performance at Summertime Ball in the UK. Other than her legacy fans, meaning us, nobody is out there craving new music from her. Her streaming numbers are an indication of what's going on, 2.5M in a month after a 7-year hiatus. As I stated before, unless she comes out with a banger featuring a big name like Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift, don't expect chart success. Always remember though that chart success does not necessarily a great album make. Enjoy the music. Winter is coming. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 07:36)

Type Dangerous remixes (109,719) by MusicfanJ from Germany I like them. The one with the summer sound is my favourite, then the one with the retro 90ies vibe and the Jean Don remix sounds cool too. I didn't expect the Brazil remix. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 20:19) this is a reply to message 109,697

Type Dangerous remixes (109,697) by Dove from United States I hadn't had time to listen to the remixes but I'm finally listening to the one with Busta Rhymes right now and I like it better than the original. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 16:27)

Unpopular opinions (109,718) by Bill from the UK You're right there was a bidding war to sign her between Warners and, as it was back then, CBS records. When the "demo tape incident" happened at the party Brenda K Starr took her to, MC was already in negotiations with WB. I've no idea what numbers each party threw in, but all Mariah ever said about it was that it was CBS allowing her to write her own songs that sealed it for her. I think they could have even offered less money and she still would have gone with them on that element alone. Clive Davis actually tried to buy the song Someday for Whitney, it was then that Mariah realised she could indeed write a good pop song and rather than selling it (as tempting as it was for a young girl "without a penny to her name") she retained it for herself and it gave her even more determination to become an artist in her own right. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:33) this is a reply to message 109,706

Unpopular opinions (109,706) by Lambi from USA I wasn't aware of that, what a shame. The fact that Madonna, also signed to WB, was allowed to co-write while Mariah wasn't initially given that same allowance is absurd, almost blasphemous. I recall reading or hearing that Mariah's signing came down to a bidding war: Warner reportedly offered around $100K, and Sony countered with $300K, ultimately securing the deal. My numbers might be a little inaccurate, but it was something in that ballpark. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:53)

New album (109,717) by Shezz from Pk Bobby A, Edward is 100% right. Even if she released Fantasy right now it really wouldn't do much. Secondly I think we need to trust their process. They have a plan plus they're probably still working a few things out. I'd rather she finish everything right than announce the album prematurely and then delay it later. Plus she's not going to have a mega pop star roll out. 6 weeks ago we thought she was done, that she'd never release anything again and that there was something gravely wrong with her. A week later she gave us a brand new single and said MC16 is on its way, did numerous radio appearances and BET, performed at Capital FM, released one of her better videos in the last 15 years, rpartaked in a confused chaotic song with Barbra, Walter and Ariana and then just released a remix ep with some pretty good remixes. All in the last 5 weeks after being mostly out of action for 7 years. Cut MC and Gamma some slack. She knows what she's doing. The next single will be out soon and so will the album announcement. No amount of promotional blitz will make it perform along the level of the current stars but the music will be there for you to enjoy regardless. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:13) this is a reply to message 109,714

New album (109,714) by Bobby A from United States I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)

New album (109,716) by Lighty from China Something has been off with Mariah's album rollouts since as early as the Memoirs era. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:04) this is a reply to message 109,714

New album (109,714) by Bobby A from United States I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)

New album (109,715) by Haiji from United States I'm trying to remember if the rollout to Mimi was like this era. Was it like this when ILT was dropped? (Sunday 13 July 2025; 17:48) this is a reply to message 109,714

New album (109,714) by Bobby A from United States I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)

New album (109,714) by Bobby A from United States I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31) this is a reply to message 109,708

New album (109,708) by Edward from USA Bobby A, Mariah is a legacy artist, just like many others were when she was on her prime. MC16 will probably come and go like "Caution" did. No matter how many appearances she makes, it won't make much of a difference. To be fair, she was promoting consistently when TD came out and, lipped or not, she put on a great and energetic performance at Summertime Ball in the UK. Other than her legacy fans, meaning us, nobody is out there craving new music from her. Her streaming numbers are an indication of what's going on, 2.5M in a month after a 7-year hiatus. As I stated before, unless she comes out with a banger featuring a big name like Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift, don't expect chart success. Always remember though that chart success does not necessarily a great album make. Enjoy the music. Winter is coming. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 07:36)

Promotion (109,713) by MusicfanJ from Germany I like your ideas and thoughts. Haha, the Elvis jump suit. That would be funny. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:31) this is a reply to message 109,707

Promotion (109,707) by Dove from United States I don't think Mariah comes across well on T.V. appearances, though. (Except to the lambs.) Everyone asks her the same boring questions that we've all heard a hundred million times over the years. Or they're shady to her, like Oprah was when she interviewed her about her book when it was released. If the interviewer is shady to you, it kind of makes you look bad to the audience. IMO. Especially potential new fans who haven't heard of her. I do want to hear from her but from her own platform. Tell us what you want us to know. Make blogs for us, or vlogs. I think a better marketing strategy would be to feature her songs on popular shows or movies. But good songs and on well written shows or movies. Mariah's songs speak for themselves. We've all experienced watching a movie or show and the song perfectly encapsulates the moment and you're bonded to that moment from then on. One example I can think of is the song Breathe Me by Sia, which was featured in the series finale of Six Feet Under. Or have young beautiful people with storylines in her videos (with inserts of her singing in glamour poses if she wants). For example: Beauty School Dropout was supposed to be sung by Elvis so she could wear an Elvis-esque jumpsuit (like the one Britney Spears wore when she was promoting Live From Las Vegas) and recreate the video. Walking down the white stairs and there can be a beautiful young up-and-coming actress with pink hair paying Frenchie. I'm imagining the young Queen of Hearts actress from the Descendants movie. I mean, not that exactly, but something like that. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 06:06)

Unpopular opinions (109,712) by MusicfanJ from Germany Nick was a user and a childish clown. He used her more than every other man. It's a shame, his whole behaviour. He was good looking and for sure fun at the beginning. But his bad mouth was the worst, I was shocked how he talked about Mariah in interviews back then. It's clear he would "take Mariah back" immadiatley and at any time. Luckily Mariah will never ever take him back. He can manage his "tribe" with all the kids from different women, so he won't be lonely. I wish Mariah had children with a real humble man, who's true with an honest soul. But it's the opposite and that's so sad. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:29) this is a reply to message 109,705

Unpopular opinions (109,705) by Lambi from USA I will give him credit because if he didn't put in effort early on, Mariah probably wouldn't have kids right now. Initially, he was actually a solid match. He just started pursuing his academics and felt Mariah "couldn't keep up" and that the relationship was "stagnant". He most likely stumbled upon ideas about African chiefs who were genetically gifted and were allowed to procreate with anyone to produce strong children and strengthen the tribe. He clearly thinks it's him since he modeled his whole life after it, and tries to justify it because it was a "norm" back then. He now realizes it's the wrong idea to aspire to since he's been caught on record saying Mariah was the greatest and wishes he could have it all back. It's such a shame. It's way too late. All that so-called education he pursued just landed him into a being well-read idiot. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:34)

New album (109,711) by Zachariah from Croatia Agreed. I'll Be Loving You Long Time is perfect for a nice drive down the road next to the sea with the top down. My kids love it as well. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:28) this is a reply to message 109,710

New album (109,710) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "For the record". For me it's the best song of the album. E=MC2 is really the perfect summer album. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:14)

New album (109,710) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "For the record". For me it's the best song of the album. E=MC2 is really the perfect summer album. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 12:14) this is a reply to message 109,703

New album (109,703) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The new album is supposed to be a summery sound, well July is almost over I wonder what the roll out plan is and I was thinking I really hope the new album and what we heard about it turns out to be like E=MC2. I've been playing the album and it's still so fresh and experimental. Almost every song had single potential. I was also re-listening to For the Record and indeed what a record only MC has a legacy worth referencing in her own song. I absolutely love her doing the part where she word plays her own song titles, how I wish we had a music video of the song with her recreating her famous MV scenes from the songs mentioned. Anyway I'm rambling but yes I'm hoping for an album like that. It's peak summer vibes with songs like TMB, Cruise Control, IBLULT, FTR, Migrate, ITC. Even has the cheesy Love Story and Last Kiss which I know people hate on but I love it. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 23:55)

Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,709) by Zachariah from Croatia Gotta love the shady humor early in the morning. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 11:02) this is a reply to message 109,689

Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,689) by Edward from USA Welcome to the Twilight Zone, my dear. You've just stepped into the alternate-twin-universe version of the MCArchives Messageboard, where logic takes naps, reason time-travels, fetch did happen, Mariah made up the word emblazoned and the webmaster might actually be your cat. Be careful, things are not what they seem in here. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 04:50)

New album (109,708) by Edward from USA Bobby A, Mariah is a legacy artist, just like many others were when she was on her prime. MC16 will probably come and go like "Caution" did. No matter how many appearances she makes, it won't make much of a difference. To be fair, she was promoting consistently when TD came out and, lipped or not, she put on a great and energetic performance at Summertime Ball in the UK. Other than her legacy fans, meaning us, nobody is out there craving new music from her. Her streaming numbers are an indication of what's going on, 2.5M in a month after a 7-year hiatus. As I stated before, unless she comes out with a banger featuring a big name like Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift, don't expect chart success. Always remember though that chart success does not necessarily a great album make. Enjoy the music. Winter is coming. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 07:36) this is a reply to message 109,704

New album (109,704) by Bobby A from United States I think after TD didn't perform like MC and Gamma had hoped they are trying to regroup and come up with another plan to launch the album. August is almost here and it will be September 1st before we know it and it seems promos have stalled waiting for TD to become Touch My Body in 2025. I analyzed album roll out plans and promos for several artists who have albums coming out in August with a definite release date and most have been on various TV programs promoting their new albums. I think Gamma is going about rolling out MC16 all wrong. I hope with the 2nd single rollout that MC is on as many TV programs that she can make an appearance on and start promoting her new album. Just my two cents this weekend. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:14)

Promotion (109,707) by Dove from United States I don't think Mariah comes across well on T.V. appearances, though. (Except to the lambs.) Everyone asks her the same boring questions that we've all heard a hundred million times over the years. Or they're shady to her, like Oprah was when she interviewed her about her book when it was released. If the interviewer is shady to you, it kind of makes you look bad to the audience. IMO. Especially potential new fans who haven't heard of her. I do want to hear from her but from her own platform. Tell us what you want us to know. Make blogs for us, or vlogs. I think a better marketing strategy would be to feature her songs on popular shows or movies. But good songs and on well written shows or movies. Mariah's songs speak for themselves. We've all experienced watching a movie or show and the song perfectly encapsulates the moment and you're bonded to that moment from then on. One example I can think of is the song Breathe Me by Sia, which was featured in the series finale of Six Feet Under. Or have young beautiful people with storylines in her videos (with inserts of her singing in glamour poses if she wants). For example: Beauty School Dropout was supposed to be sung by Elvis so she could wear an Elvis-esque jumpsuit (like the one Britney Spears wore when she was promoting Live From Las Vegas) and recreate the video. Walking down the white stairs and there can be a beautiful young up-and-coming actress with pink hair paying Frenchie. I'm imagining the young Queen of Hearts actress from the Descendants movie. I mean, not that exactly, but something like that. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 06:06)

Unpopular opinions (109,706) by Lambi from USA I wasn't aware of that, what a shame. The fact that Madonna, also signed to WB, was allowed to co-write while Mariah wasn't initially given that same allowance is absurd, almost blasphemous. I recall reading or hearing that Mariah's signing came down to a bidding war: Warner reportedly offered around $100K, and Sony countered with $300K, ultimately securing the deal. My numbers might be a little inaccurate, but it was something in that ballpark. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:53) this is a reply to message 109,698

Unpopular opinions (109,698) by Bill from the UK The reason Mariah didn't sign with Warners was because they would not let her write her own material. So she would have been another Whitney or Celine, with songs provided and selected for her, and she merely interpret them as a singer. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 17:46)

Unpopular opinions (109,705) by Lambi from USA I will give him credit because if he didn't put in effort early on, Mariah probably wouldn't have kids right now. Initially, he was actually a solid match. He just started pursuing his academics and felt Mariah "couldn't keep up" and that the relationship was "stagnant". He most likely stumbled upon ideas about African chiefs who were genetically gifted and were allowed to procreate with anyone to produce strong children and strengthen the tribe. He clearly thinks it's him since he modeled his whole life after it, and tries to justify it because it was a "norm" back then. He now realizes it's the wrong idea to aspire to since he's been caught on record saying Mariah was the greatest and wishes he could have it all back. It's such a shame. It's way too late. All that so-called education he pursued just landed him into a being well-read idiot. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:34) this is a reply to message 109,700

Unpopular opinions (109,700) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I tend to think the opposite, I don't think Nick was a good match for Mariah. Yes initially of course they had that sexual tension and the playful romance but I think Nick didn't respect Mariah's boundaries. She is quite private yet he outed her phone number when she was pregnant, told people they make love to "Hero" and get blabbering about their personal life. It's also clear he gave Mariah reasons to believe he wasn't faithful because in the Barbara Walters interview Mariah already seemed checked out and says she trusts him "sometimes". And then we got MIAM which provided another side of how she was very lonely in the marriage, how he used her for fame and all that. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 18:27)

New album (109,704) by Bobby A from United States I think after TD didn't perform like MC and Gamma had hoped they are trying to regroup and come up with another plan to launch the album. August is almost here and it will be September 1st before we know it and it seems promos have stalled waiting for TD to become Touch My Body in 2025. I analyzed album roll out plans and promos for several artists who have albums coming out in August with a definite release date and most have been on various TV programs promoting their new albums. I think Gamma is going about rolling out MC16 all wrong. I hope with the 2nd single rollout that MC is on as many TV programs that she can make an appearance on and start promoting her new album. Just my two cents this weekend. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:14) this is a reply to message 109,703

New album (109,703) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The new album is supposed to be a summery sound, well July is almost over I wonder what the roll out plan is and I was thinking I really hope the new album and what we heard about it turns out to be like E=MC2. I've been playing the album and it's still so fresh and experimental. Almost every song had single potential. I was also re-listening to For the Record and indeed what a record only MC has a legacy worth referencing in her own song. I absolutely love her doing the part where she word plays her own song titles, how I wish we had a music video of the song with her recreating her famous MV scenes from the songs mentioned. Anyway I'm rambling but yes I'm hoping for an album like that. It's peak summer vibes with songs like TMB, Cruise Control, IBLULT, FTR, Migrate, ITC. Even has the cheesy Love Story and Last Kiss which I know people hate on but I love it. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 23:55)

New album (109,703) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The new album is supposed to be a summery sound, well July is almost over I wonder what the roll out plan is and I was thinking I really hope the new album and what we heard about it turns out to be like E=MC2. I've been playing the album and it's still so fresh and experimental. Almost every song had single potential. I was also re-listening to For the Record and indeed what a record only MC has a legacy worth referencing in her own song. I absolutely love her doing the part where she word plays her own song titles, how I wish we had a music video of the song with her recreating her famous MV scenes from the songs mentioned. Anyway I'm rambling but yes I'm hoping for an album like that. It's peak summer vibes with songs like TMB, Cruise Control, IBLULT, FTR, Migrate, ITC. Even has the cheesy Love Story and Last Kiss which I know people hate on but I love it. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 23:55)

Unpopular opinions (109,702) by Sasha from Nomansland Quite frankly, I don't think her career would have had such a long lifespan. I'm not sure she would have received the same preferential treatment at another record company. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 23:24) this is a reply to message 109,693

Unpopular opinions (109,693) by Lambi from USA My other what if is, "what if Mariah didn't end up with Tommy?" like what if Warner Brothers ended up winning the bid and signing Mariah? I wonder how much this would have changed the trajectory of her whole entire career. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 14:13)

The remixes (109,701) by Edward from USA Had the remixes been released simultaneously with the original, TD would've charted way higher. At least two of the remixes are better than the original. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 20:12)

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