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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,772) by Bobby A from United States

I think it has been all fun for her being in MC's "world" for a minute. I pretend all the time that was Twista in studio when MC recorded My One and Only. I bet Twista was in awe with MC during that recording night.

(Tuesday 5 May 2026; 00:11)


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Should MC release a Part two album (113,771) by Bobby A from United States

I think MC's next album should be a part two to one of her biggest selling or Lambs' favorite albums from 2005-2018. I would love a Memoirs or Caution part two. The public excitement might be what MC's career needs to take the world back in time when her music made people say hmmm. I think Memoirs: The Final Chapter has a nice sound to it.

(Monday 4 May 2026; 23:49)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,770) by Lambi from USA

Page 128: "In the beginning, Tommy protected me. He shielded me from all the people who thought I owed them something or who wanted to use me." I would not be shocked if this is why Brenda was dropped from Sony in such a cutthroat way.

It's also interesting that, on the very next pages, Mariah elaborates on how she found the perfect house for her mom, how she handpicked every detail because she knew what her mom liked, and how hugely important it was to her to finally find some stability for her family. After reading it, it makes Brenda's request for a house all the more absurd.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 21:17)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,769) by Stacey from USA

Thumbs up for you too. Bill's list should be in the burn book too.

(Monday 4 May 2026; 18:58)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,768) by Stacey from USA

I wish I could give you more than one "thumbs up".

(Monday 4 May 2026; 18:58)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,767) by Edward from USA

That's funny. It should definitely be on the first page of the "Burn Book".

(Monday 4 May 2026; 14:11)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,766) by TheButterflyReturns from United States

I agree. Brenda and Arthur Baker both come across like they have chips on their shoulders in that interview. Arthur is probably jealous that Mariah went with Tommy Mottola and Sony and worked with producers other than him. Both were seeming to imply that Mariah made up portions of her "being discovered" story, but I question their motivations.

It was unrealistic for Brenda to expect so many favors from Mariah simply because Brenda was helpful to her in getting signed. Brenda was Mariah's employer, so their relationship was primarily a professional one. A former employer typically shouldn't be expecting an employee to help them out after the contractual obligations are fulfilled. Mariah has never portrayed that relationship as super close personal relationship in the manner that Brenda has, and I think there's a reason for that. Watching that interview, I also noticed that Brenda gets song titles from Mariah's first album and demo wrong - so I am not sure I completely trust her version of events.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 12:55)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,765) by Lambi from USA

You're actually correct, I don't work for Gamma. I went there solely for contacts and now work in tech for a touring agency. We're not supposed to speak negatively about artists. This is kind of incognito though, but you never know.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 06:45)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,764) by Belinda Vasquez from USA

Please stop acting like you work for Gramma. You don't.
(Monday 4 May 2026; 03:48)


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The real reason Mariah gets no respect (113,763) by Lambi from USA

Turns out I'm wrong. She called up TMZ to set the record straight. She does this every time to clap back. (Example: JLO: "She's forgetful I guess." Hoodriah: "I still don't know her.")

Peep the interviewers who was prompted to say: "You're a legend, you deserve everything." She just posted Underneath The Stars as well to remind everyone how phenomenal her songwriting is.

We know snubs make the headlines and we also know Mariah's will be extra sensationalized because she is actually a legend. But now I'm kind of convinced there is an effort to defame her just from the way PR reacted and handled it. I was genuinely surprised she actually took the time to do all that when there's literally so much cooking right now.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:47)


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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,762) by Bobby A from United States

I feel MC is about to make us smile again with a rumored duet on Ariana's Petal album. The-Dream is back too this summer with a new album.

(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:40)


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The Revival Of Mariah Carey (113,761) by Lambi from USA

This is all in jest so I'm safe from my NDA. I'm forever cackling at:

9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket
30. Avoiding wrinkles (courtesy of me)

Keep it going.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 13:23)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,760) by Lambi from USA

She does this now because she's read her book. It's the same as Miley Cyrus suddenly flip flopping from, "That's part of her shtick, I can see through that. It's about Mimi. It's about her" to "This is too iconic. I could've missed the award, that's fine, but not Mariah Carey."

They realize Mariah has lived an extremely troubled life ever since childhood. They know she's a survivor and is a genuinely good person. Their beefs are insignificant compared to all the bigger fish she's been frying.

I would actually respect Brenda if she had just said, "You know, maybe I did push it a bit too much. Maybe I asked for too much favor when she hadn't even reached stardom yet. I was a mother at 19, eventually single, and was scared shitless about the future of my son. I needed security and subconsciously tried to get the most out of Mariah. I want to apologize to her if I made her feel like she owed me her career."

That would ring absolutely true to me. But she chooses to go on a virtue signaling ramble. People can actually understand and handle the truth, just say it. We will get it. We've all been teenagers in survival mode. She's matured now, brain fully developed so it's totally okay to take accountability on mistakes you made when you were young.

I don't doubt Mariah's friendship meant something, but I do know it's perpetually distanced for a reason. MC has great pattern recognition about these type of people. She intuitively just knows.
(Sunday 3 May 2026; 12:26)


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Article: Mariah Carey makes it into greatest songwriters list (113,759) by Bill from the UK

"Your writing song ability is finally recognized."

She's already in the Songwriter's Hall of Fame sugar lump.
(Saturday 2 May 2026; 23:33)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,758) by Bill from the UK

That's an odd take. Personally, I thought what Mariah said to Brenda was pretty cold. Brenda seemed quite genuine and caring for Mariah, and still roots for her now. She seemed sincerely heartbroken over losing Mariah's friendship several times. I'm glad she's happy, is healthy, is still making music, and is content and settled. And I thank her for opening the door for Mariah to enter into all of our lives and bring us the joy and happiness she has over all these years.
(Saturday 2 May 2026; 23:01)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,757) by Lambi from USA

MC saying "What do you want me to do? Be indebted to you for the rest of my life?" is accurate. Like I said Mariah is smart. Brenda introducing an ultimatum was weird. "If I get you a record deal, you're gonna buy me my first house, right?" Then making her sign it, "I Mariah Carey will buy Brenda a house if I get famous" she's framing it in jest now but you don't formalize a "joke" with a written agreement unless you're hoping it holds weight later. It's so deeply manipulative.

She's another Morgan, "There wouldn't be a Mariah Carey if it wasn't for me." They're those type of people who help because they know there's a big trade. None of it was ever really from the heart because the entitlement to Mariah's wealth thereafter is ridiculous.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 23:02)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,756) by Jamie from UK

Thanks for the edit Eric, what I called her debut/first album is her 2nd. I always thought the [I want your love] album came after Brenda K. Starr and By Heart. The Brenda K. Starr is the best.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 16:34)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,755) by Jamie from UK

Plus Brenda's 2nd album "By Heart" [ed: third album] is no where as good as her debut album. The fact she was dropped isn't anything to do with Mariah. Brenda's first album is one of my cycling and running playlist as it's pure 80's vibes
(Friday 1 May 2026; 15:14)


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Article: Mariah Carey makes it into greatest songwriters list (113,754) by Lainsky from Philippines

As she should be. Congratulations, Mariah. Your writing song ability is finally recognized.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 13:51)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,753) by Jamie from UK

Yeah that part was wrong on Brenda's side.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 11:14)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,752) by TJ from Norway

But Brenda K Starr is also making up a story here, isn't she (not asking myself, just adding something more to my other message)? Didn't Mariah release I still Believe in 1998 or something, and the Around the World DVD in 99? Wasn't her breakdown in 2001?

We are all getting older and forgetful. That includes Brenda too.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 10:12)


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Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,751) by TJ from Norway

I think Brenda is telling the truth about how the tape was given to Tommy. I am sure I both read interviews about this in the early 90's, and heard Mariah tell this on tv. It's the same with the acting. She said in the early 90's that she didn't want to be an actress, because singers should do what they know. She also was against having kids that would grow up in the public eye.

My former neighbor used to work for Sony Music, and met her/worked with her a lot of times when she gave interviews or was doing other promotional stuff, and she said that Mariah went from being a humble and shy person to lose contact with the real world in just a few years (already around 1994 when she released her Christmas album). She was a totally different person in her eyes.

I think Mariah who lives in Mariah World, tries to make her own story to fit in what picture she wants us to believe in. And I think that she believes it's the truth, even if it's not. It's very easy to give people (or make) false memories of how things went.

I hope that my message makes some sense.
(Friday 1 May 2026; 09:46)


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Rainbow era (113,750) by Billy from Greece

Some rare snippets from the Rainbow era here, and even a positive comment on Madonna?
(Friday 1 May 2026; 08:44)

New York Times 30 best songwriters (113,749) by Randy from USA

I'm shocked no one mentioned this so I'll go first. The New York Times named the 30 best living American Songwriters and Mariah was included and did a mini interview with Danyel Smith who has always been kind to MC as a journalist. She was included with Babyface, Diane Warren, Jay Z, Fiona Apple, Missy Elliot and Taylor Swift. About her voice excuses. No other singer does that. Not Chaka Khan. Not Jennifer Hudson. Not Beyonce. Not Kelly Clarkson. I put together a video a few years back of Mariah making excuses for her bad performances but I took it down. I really do care about MC and her legacy. I wish she had addressed it in 1997/1998 when the sky started falling. But at the same time, does this woman who really has been [through] so much since birth need one other thing to feel insecure about? I'm 46 and I'm about to sing my first church solo in a few weeks. I'm petrified and the times I've practiced for my friends doesn't sound as good as when I'm in my house alone. I don't want people to beat me up the way I have Mariah since 97. God really does have a sense of humor.
(Thursday 30 April 2026; 19:23)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,748) by Jamie from UK

I enjoyed watching that, I think the whole thing is a lot more complicated than we will ever know. Brenda asking Mariah to help her after she was dropped, probably put Mariah in an awkward situation where she couldn't get involved even if she wanted too. We don't know if Brenda was asking for stuff all the time, and there has to be a cut off at some point. Alison used to say Mariah had never helped her or given her anything but that wasn't true, she'd had multiple amounts of money and help. Do I think Mariah should have done more for Brenda, yes I do, and to be cut off again after the [I still believe] cover and then not to recognize her at a concert must hurt. When you get to Mariah's level I guess you aren't as accessible anymore but it would be nice for Mariah to keep in contact with her after what she did for her, they don't have to be best friends but I think Mariah should reach out to her.
(Thursday 30 April 2026; 18:52)


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