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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,395)
by BFF from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 23:27) | | |
| I prefer "Ken Lee" to "Without You". It's more soulful. |
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This is a reply to message 102,391 by
MC85 from Canada
(Friday 24 March 2023; 19:37) | | |
I have worked with and still do work with lots of much younger people, from early teens to mid-to-late 20's and they all know and can sing along to "Obsessed", even well before it had it's little semi-recent viral moment. So that's my choice, though definitely "Without You" isn't far behind though WU isn't as familiar to the young'uns.  |
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Pick 5 favorites re-imagined by the same producer (102,242)
by BFF from United States
(Sunday 19 February 2023; 15:28) | | |
| I would love for Mariah to work with Blood Orange/Devonte Hynes again. I loved his first album as Blood Orange and love the "True" EP that he produced with Solange. I always wished that Solange had cut an entire album with him rather than just six or so songs. |
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This is a reply to message 102,237 by
Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 18 February 2023; 14:08) | | |
I was thinking this morning how MC's You're Mine (Eternal) and Keyshia Cole's Stubborn definitely have that Rodney Jerkins signature sound. Then I thought about wouldn't it be cool if MC released an album of her favorite album tracks re-imagined by the same producer. Here are my five favorites that I would like re-imagined:
1. You're Mine (Eternal) - Rodney Jerkins
2. Ribbon - Christopher Stewart/The-Dream
3. Giving Me Life - Blood Orange
4. Meteorite - Q-Tip
5. Shake It Off - JD/BMC/JA
You know I had to have a JD track. Lol. |
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New picture (102,174)
by BFF from United States
(Friday 3 February 2023; 15:50) | | |
| I think Mariah crash diets when she is preparing for a promotional blitz and then puts the weight back on once she's done with promoting her latest project and goes back to unhealthy patterns. I think it's as simple as that. Maintaining a healthy weight and fitness requires more than just temporary dieting and quick fixes - it involves adjustment of one's lifestyle. This means a lifestyle that includes regular exercise, healthy eating, abstaining from alcohol and other unhealthy substances, good sleep habits, et cetera. I think Mariah can do the exercise and healthy eating bit, but her Achilles heels always seem to be her poor sleep habits and her consumption of alcohol. |
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This is a reply to message 102,164 by
Randy from USA
(Wednesday 1 February 2023; 02:11) | | |
| I struggle with weight. I can't imagine what it's like to be in the public eye with paparazzi outside your building. But why does it seem MCs weight goes up and down so much and so quickly. Maybe this is a bad angle. But I swear it reminds me of the parody Debra Wilson and MadTV did with the "I'm Not Insane" where she sings the line as MC, "Although my weight, does fluctuate." Any thoughts on this phenomenon where MC goes from a size 6 to a size 16 in a matter of two months? |
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Beyonce lipping (102,117)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 23 January 2023; 14:59) | | |
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the "everybody else is doing it, so why can't we" approach to lip-syncing. The fact that a number of artists lip-synch a good portion of their shows does not make it any less dishonest.
Bottom line: People are forking over hard-earned money for often exorbitantly priced tickets to see a show and to support the artists they love. If an artist advertises themselves as a "singer-songwriter", vocalist", et cetera, they need to be singing most or all of the songs live. And if they're not confident they can handle the songs live, they need to work harder at training their voices and getting fit for the tour, adjust the songs to fit their voice as it is, or they need to not go on tour.
The fact of the matter is that these artists have the privilege of earning a living from something that most people do as a hobby. |
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This is a reply to message 102,112 by
Tyler from USA
(Monday 23 January 2023; 00:06) | | |
| I just saw a few clips from the Beyonce show and she pretty much lipped the same amount as MC. All of the harder runs and notes were completely pre-records. I was surprised given that fact this was a very low choreography driven show. I'm not saying this to put another artist down to make Mariah look better but the fact there's very few artist doing 100% live shows. I think the days of 100% vocally driven concert of the 90's are gone for most artist not just MC. All we need is Beyonce's audio guy to help blend the vocals and more practicing on Mariah's part. |
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Memoirs is underrated (102,113)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 23 January 2023; 00:33) | | |
| I agree. I think the "Memoirs" album is underrated and better than E=MC2, but it's too long. I really don't like "Obsessed" amongst the singles in her catalogue - the auto-tune use was a major turnoff. I probably would have picked a different song to remake other than "I Want to Know What Love Is" - it just didn't work and felt a little random since she hadn't covered anything in a while. I went to the Atlanta tour date of the "Angels Advocate" tour and remember being bummed when the remix album "Angels Advocate" was cancelled. She leaned pretty heavily into her role in "Precious" during this period, which was a little surprising considering how small her role is in the movie. Everyone was like "Oh, this is proof she can act." but I found her much more compelling in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". Her role in "Tennessee" was much larger and she recorded two songs for it, but she hardly did any promotion for the film or "Right to Dream", which is a great song. |
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This is a reply to message 102,111 by
Randy from USA
(Sunday 22 January 2023; 22:40) | | |
| I feel like the album is underrated and too long. I don't begrudge any of the songs but did Ribbon, More Than Just Friends, Standing O or Inseparable add anything to her catalogue? I do love Languishing though. It's actually one of my most played songs by her right now. |
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Caution (102,097)
by BFF from United States
(Thursday 19 January 2023; 20:47) | | |
I agree. I think Mariah needs to really train her voice up and go back to writing lyrics on her own rather than with collaborators. I think collaborating on the music makes sense, but her songs lose her unique touch when she brings in lyricists to collaborate with.
I would prefer a second "Rarities" collection this year over a half-baked "Caution"-like album of new material. |
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This is a reply to message 102,096 by
Edward from USA
(Thursday 19 January 2023; 13:26) | | |
| I was listening to Caution yesterday and I couldn't believe it's been almost five years since its release. One would think Mariah recorded a lot during the pandemic, so there should be enough material to at least release a solid EP. I do miss "The Voice". Sometimes I'm not sure if Marian wants to sing anymore. Most of her one-song projects in the past ten years have been lackluster, half-cooked. Her songs used to have legs of their own, but for a while now those legs are based on a hype that renders them crippled when you get to listen to them. Most cuts that didn't make it into her albums in the 90's are simply great. I'm not talking about her voice, but the artistry in her music. Butterfly was sung in her whisper register, but oh boy, those lyrics, the sentiment, the music, it didn't need an introduction. It's as if she were done with music but she's thrown into the spot light for a whole month every year and she has to act on it for financial reasons. I hopefully we get some quality music this year. Something different. |
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Improvements to Glitter (102,087)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 16 January 2023; 18:48) | | |
I think Mariah could have improved the outcome of the "Glitter" era by only committing to six songs on the soundtrack rather than twelve. I remember her mentioning this during the Fox Family channel documentary about the making of the movie and soundtrack, and I think this makes total sense. She could have structured it in a similar fashion to "The Bodyguard" soundtrack where Whitney only contributed about six songs. I think this would have taken some of the pressure off and might have made her less exhausted. It might have even prevented the sabotage of "Loverboy" because she could have gotten the movie and soundtrack out before Tommy and J. Lo did her dirty. I'm pretty sure the release was initially late 2000 or early 2001. I would have limited Mariah's soundtrack contributions to the following:
1. Loverboy ("Firecracker" original)
2. Never Too Far
3. Want You (with Eric Benet)
4. All My Life
5. Lead the Way
6. Reflections
7. Twister
The rest of the songs just don't work as well. She probably could have gotten permission to use songs like "Never Too Much" by Luther Vandross, "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash, and the originals of the songs she covered. I even think that song "We Could Have Been" by Eric Benet could've worked on the soundtrack.
Just some thoughts I had. I think the film might have turned out better if Mariah had relinquished a bit of control over the soundtrack and allowed contributions from other artists. She would've had more time and energy to devote to the acting, writing and production on the film. |
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Butterfly (102,084)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 16 January 2023; 15:57) | | |
| "Butterfly" is one of the best ballads she ever wrote. I wish Sony had commercially released it. I think it could have gone to #1 easily on the strength of the ballad version as well as "Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise)". |
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This is a reply to message 102,071 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Saturday 14 January 2023; 17:20) | | |
| This song is still so brilliant. By the first listen in 97 I loved this song. I think it's beside "Hero" Mariah's hymn. An emotional ballad, poetic lyrics and a beautiful, classy video. We all know that Mariah described her new free life with it and the tough relationship with Tommy. But for me the song can also be about friendship, changes, dreams and life in general. Today the people won't get a song like this again. In 97 the music and the artists from many genres were really awesome. Music will always be a mirror of the times. I miss those days. |
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The vocal performance award (102,083)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 16 January 2023; 15:46) | | |
| I think her lack of touring during that period contributed. She neglected to do a concert tour until 1993. And even when she did tour in the 1990s, the tours were very short. Whitney Houston and Celine Dion, though they did not write or produce their own records, both toured extensively. If you do not tour, how can anyone know that you have the chops to pull off a "vocal performance"? Mariah definitely did have the chops, but she and her management should have pushed for more extensive touring during the 1990-1997 period. Her decision to end the "Butterfly" tour early to pursue that silly movie role with Chris Tucker was a very frustrating choice. |
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This is a reply to message 102,066 by
Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 13 January 2023; 01:04) | | |
| I think it was because of the lack of consistency with MC's sound from 1990-1997. She started out with a pop debut album in 1990. Emotions had more of a R&B sound. Music Box went back to a pop sound. Daydream was totally a R&B album. Butterfly moved MC more into the hip hop R&B world. Do you see how the Grammys committee would be confused about MC's sound and direction? |
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Primary custody (102,082)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 16 January 2023; 15:38) | | |
| I agree that it's great that she got Roc N Roe out of the marriage. I'm just not sure Nick Cannon was the best choice for co-parent and life partner. |
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This is a reply to message 102,067 by
Stacey from USA
(Friday 13 January 2023; 06:35) | | |
I don't see Mariah's marriage to Nick as a mistake. She got Roc and Roe out of it.  |
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Primary custody (102,057)
by BFF from United States
(Thursday 12 January 2023; 15:51) | | |
Why do all of these people opt into this situation knowing that Nick has children with multiple women? Have any of them heard of birth control, contraceptives, or any type of pregnancy prevention mechanism? Nick Cannon's reputation definitely precedes him, and clearly he has no interest in condoms, vasectomy, et cetera. It's not exactly news that he likes to sleep around. My guess is that many of them want to be taken care of financially.
I love Mariah, but marrying Nick was definitely a very poor decision on her part. I get that she wanted children, but someone with her financial resources could have easily done it another way. Not sure what her chances are for primary custody, but it does seem like she is the more competent parent. |
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This is a reply to message 102,056 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 12 January 2023; 14:06) | | |
| Yes, but it's understandable for Mariah to take this step. I don't know about the US law but here Mariah would easily get the primary custody. I mean with six different mothers, we call that antisocial here. Sorry, but it's the truth. And maybe Nick won't stop and there will be a another woman with a child from him. Definitely not a normal situation for children. So I hope Mariah is getting the custody. |
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Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,025)
by BFF from United States
(Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:34) | | |
These are the singers that come to mind for me.
10 Female singers:
1. Aretha Franklin
2. Linda Ronstadt
3. Donna Summer
4. Whitney Houston
5. Mariah Carey
6. Celine Dion
7. Wynonna Judd
8. Etta James
9. Bonnie Raitt
10. Carrie Underwood
10 Male singers:
1. Marvin Gaye
2. Seal
3. Bruce Springsteen
4. Luther Vandross
5. Prince
6. Bill Withers
7. Stevie Wonder
8. Otis Redding
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This is a reply to message 102,007 by
Norman from USA
(Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32) | | |
After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability?
Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right?
Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking.
Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order):
Mariah (obviously)
Whitney
Celine
Etta James
Aretha
Ella
Freddie Mercury
Donny Hathaway
Luther
Linda Ronstadt
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bono
Rocio Durcal
Prince
Barb[a]ra Streisand
George Michael
Al Green
Axl Rose
Tina Turner
Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists.
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by BFF from United States
(Wednesday 4 January 2023; 15:25) | | |
| Donna Summer is not comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna? Beyonce lifted the hook for "Naughty Girl" from "Love to Love You Baby". She and Rihanna would not have careers without the existence of Donna Summer, and they are both mediocre singers in comparison. |
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This is a reply to message 102,015 by
Mariahsbaby from usa
(Tuesday 3 January 2023; 19:28) | | |
Rolling Stone on the list: "In all cases, what mattered most to us was originality, influence, the depth of an artist's catalog, and the breadth of their musical legacy. A voice can be gorgeous like Mariah Carey's, rugged like Toots Hibbert's, understated like Willie Nelson's, slippery and sumptuous like D'Angelo's, or bracing like Bob Dylan's." And they also added: " Before you start scrolling (and commenting), keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices list. Talent is impressive; genius is transcendent."
Celine Dion is the only one who we should really be upset about, Donna is not even comparable to Beyonce and Rihanna has one of the most iconic and well known voices, her songs are played around the globe. |
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Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,012)
by BFF from United States
(Tuesday 3 January 2023; 16:22) | | |
| 100 percent agree. Celine Dion has been singing her face off for decades, and Rolling Stone snubbing someone with such technical prowess is a travesty. |
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This is a reply to message 102,008 by
Stacey from USA
(Tuesday 3 January 2023; 04:36) | | |
We can argue about Mariah's place on the list, etc. But Celine missing? That's a huge mistake from Rolling Stone. Shame on them.  |
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Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,003)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 2 January 2023; 16:04) | | |
| I can't take this list seriously with Beyonce at #8 but Linda Ronstadt at #47 and Donna Summer at #122. Are you kidding me? |
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This is a reply to message 101,999 by
Bill from the UK
(Monday 2 January 2023; 14:46) | | |
| Mariah ranks #5 in the list. Aretha first, Whitney second. Celine? Nowhere to be found. |
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LadBaby? (101,919)
by BFF from United States
(Tuesday 20 December 2022; 15:30) | | |
Is your main objection to this person that they are white or simply that they are not talented? There are plenty of successful acts from all different backgrounds who are lacking in the talent department and plenty from all different backgrounds who are overlooked despite being talented.
I find Lil' Nas X to be pretty mediocre, but he continues to score hit singles and albums. On the flip side, I could never understand why Nona Hendryx never got more attention. She wrote many of the songs for Labelle, but her solo albums never sold well despite showcasing a really unique talent.
It's all very subjective. |
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This is a reply to message 101,915 by
Steven Berning from USA
(Tuesday 20 December 2022; 07:25) | | |
| Can someone please help explain LadBaby to me? I'm a citizen of the U.S., I get that there is a cultural difference to the UK. Even so, we have our novelty acts. We have our nerdy white boys who somehow have a huge hit or two. Vanilla Ice, Marky Marky and the Funk Bunch. However, our nerdy white boy novelty acts last for one or two songs, one or two albums, one or two years. Not, five years? How is LadBaby about to have the coveted Christmas #1 for a fifth year in a row? I've watched a few videos. What am I missing? I don't find them to be particularly funny, particularly good looking, nor particularly talented. Sausage rolls? Please, what am I missing? Educate me. |
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Whoopi Goldberg mocks Mariah (101,895)
by BFF from United States
(Sunday 18 December 2022; 22:39) | | |
| Darlene can call us back when she has a #1 Christmas single that she herself wrote and two best-selling Christmas albums full of great, self-penned originals and reinterpretations of classics. I love Darlene's "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)", but no one can deny the staying power of Mariah's "All I Want". Love should have left it alone after they interacted with one another on social media; this segment on "The View" was really petty and unnecessary. |
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This is a reply to message 101,894 by
Terna from Nigeria
(Sunday 18 December 2022; 21:58) | | |
| The conscious effort to shade Mariah was thick in the air in that studio you could literally cut through it with a knife. Too [bad] Mariah is already considered "The Queen of Christmas" by this [generation] amongst many other titles – yes Whoopi she can and does have it all. Her [song] "All I want For Christmas is You" [trumps] all others I dare say past, present and future. It is that [good] a song, and isn't the album that song is from "Merry Christmas" the biggest selling Christmas album of all time? That is what qualifies her as the Queen of Christmas, she stays winning. Now everyone wants to have a magical Christmas song and album like she does. Often imitated, never duplicated. |
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So what (101,883)
by BFF from United States
(Saturday 17 December 2022; 22:34) | | |
I agree. Mariah needs a dose of reality.
Tommy wasn't good for her personal life, but his influence was really good for her professionally. She was much more disciplined and focused, and she kept herself in better shape physically and vocally. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if they had never gotten married but kept their relationship strictly professional. |
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This is a reply to message 101,875 by
Terna from Nigeria
(Saturday 17 December 2022; 16:54) | | |
"I hope to God she's not reading these messages." I sure do hope she is reading these messages so she knows what's up - that the facade has failed and ain't nobody gonna shell out hard earned money for a wack, mediocre show, by a lazy has been diva living on her past glory, something's got to give. You hibernated all damn year (literally) and this is what she could come up with?  You could see the alarm and disgust on the audience faces. Say all you want about Tommy, but he made her be disciplined and her vocal quality in those times speaks for itself. As soon as he was out of the picture, look at the hideous shot vocals we got for "Rainbow". Ship her off to Iyanla Vanzant for rehabilitation already.  |
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Hero live MSG 2022 (101,853)
by BFF from United States
(Friday 16 December 2022; 15:15) | | |
In the late 1990s, she used to talk about how she liked singing "Hero" live because it was easy for her to sing and because she could mix things up. Watching that clip makes it clear that something is really wrong.
Has she rehearsed or prepared her voice at all? Part of me wishes she had not ended her Vegas residency, those shows were not perfect but having that obligation in place ensured that she had to put at least some effort into preparing. I get that the pandemic contributed some to this, but plenty of other artists started doing shows again much sooner than Mariah. |
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This is a reply to message 101,849 by
Bill from the UK
(Friday 16 December 2022; 11:51) | | |
| I wish you hadn't shared that. I just burst into tears. This is heartbreaking. Something is really, really wrong. What on earth has happened? |
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Toronto shows (101,812)
by BFF from United States
(Tuesday 13 December 2022; 13:04) | | |
I agree with Terna, Bill and others who are putting forth honest assessments and critiques of Mariah's performances. It is not hateful or demeaning to point out what is objectively true: Mariah is not training/exercising her voice. She is not taking care of her physical health. She is relying heavily on pre-recorded tracks and altering those tracks from time to time to disguise the lip syncing.
We do not need to be in the audience at these shows to know what's going on. Many of us have been following her for years and know all of the tricks she has used to disguise the lip syncing since the late 1990s... back when she did it more sparingly.
Mariah needs honest people in her circle to tell her the truth. Sometimes the kindest thing someone can do is to tell the truth rather than to go along with the charade. |
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This is a reply to message 101,808 by
Terna from Nigeria
(Tuesday 13 December 2022; 10:45) | | |
| The [fans] which is what I am, are who made, make and continue to make her who she is - and whatever achievements she has achieved, or records broken - we her core fan base are directly responsible for that and she should never ever get that fact twisted. She is up there because of us (all caps), our money and undying love effort and support. You tell her [we] said so. For you to come here with the bullsh*t talk about her not caring is just plain dumb. Is she going to those shows to sing to herself? Fans purchased those high priced tickets. The least she can do and is obligated to do is show up on her A game, or at the very least something close to it. You must be one of those gremlins on her team only concerned about your paycheck. |
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Toronto shows (101,803)
by BFF from United States
(Tuesday 13 December 2022; 03:00) | | |
| It really makes me sad that their duet was pre-recorded. "Away In a Manger" is not a difficult song to sing, and it feels so wrong to have Monroe in on the pre-recording grift. |
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This is a reply to message 101,789 by
Bill from the UK
(Monday 12 December 2022; 15:24) | | |
| I did suspect Away In A Manger was lipped, but held my tongue. But yes, on closer inspection it is very obviously the case. Shame, but I suppose MC knew that performance might get some media attention. |
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Toronto shows (101,793)
by BFF from United States
(Monday 12 December 2022; 17:38) | | |
I think Mariah should take personal responsibility like Linda Ronstadt did and retire from live performing. Ronstadt stopped performing in the late 2000s because she was uncomfortable charging people money to see performances in which she was basically just shouting. Linda Ronstadt has a degenerative condition - progressive supranuclear palsy - that rendered her unable to sing.
As far as we know, Mariah has no such condition and just chooses not to train and exercise her voice and take care of her physical health the way she needs to. The constant lip syncing, the altering of prerecorded tracks to disguise lip syncing, the shout-singing, the mediocre vocal performances are impossible to ignore and are really disrespectful to the people who pay good money for the shows. This would be okay with Janet Jackson, Madonna, Britney Spears, et cetera who are mostly about choreography, but it's not okay for someone known for singing. |
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This is a reply to message 101,782 by
Terna from Nigeria
(Sunday 11 December 2022; 15:46) | | |
| Watching the clips, [one] can tell she's really struggling to put on a "singing" show but her voice is really not having it, so she talk sings or alters the melody. I really wish Mariah would get professional help. Now she's also having lower range issues as seen in the "Emotions" and "My All" clips with the unintentional vocal breaks. Another thing I noticed is the repertoire itself isn't the best for a singer her age seeing as it was written "16 to 25 minutes ago", she's missing a lot of qualities that were there before which enabled her sing so well – [agility], fluid and seamless registers, stamina in terms of youth etc just the ease of singing she once had in [general] which was an amalgamation of all these factors and more working hand in hand. It's [sad] to see the last of the two true [divas] struggling; with Celine and her health issues and Mariah and her waning instrument. |
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Mariah on Colbert (101,765)
by BFF from United States
(Friday 9 December 2022; 19:38) | | |
I thought it was great. Her vocals were great, and I could tell she did not pre-record them. They sounded like Daydream era. And she sounded so witty and articulate talking about being mixed, dah-ling. She looked like a skinny legend. I love hearing her tell the same stories over and over, and how dare anyone on this board criticize her for it.
I cannot wait to hear the pre-recorded tracks she's using for her Christmas shows and cannot wait for the repeated breaks for tea, champagne, wardrobe changes, and hair and makeup. |
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This is a reply to message 101,752 by
Randy from USA
(Thursday 8 December 2022; 06:21) | | |
| As I'm writing this, I realize why she's so insecure. We really do pick apart everything about her. But since we have a little extra time. Start with the positive. She looked amazing. I love the ponytail. I love that her foundation matched her skin perfectly. And she looked like money. Now, Randy will speak. She is interesting to listen to but at times it's just too immature for a 50+ year old woman. She's not a ditz but she seems to revel in playing one. She's so excited to check off every talking point in her head, she speaks in fast garbled sentences. But MC we know you wrote the song. We know you are mixed. We know you didn't go to class. We know your Christmases were ruined. With all that said, I was never bored and could not take my eyes off of her. I don't think she came off likeable to the non fan. And how weird was it that she walked out to Natural Woman? Number one, she has the most famous original Christmas song of all time blazing the charts. Number two, she has the largest catalogue of number ones of any living artist. And did anyone else get the feeling Steven Colbert was like wtf, she's crazier than I expected, the whole time? What do y'all think? |
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Charmbracelet - 20 years (101,730)
by BFF from United States
(Sunday 4 December 2022; 15:53) | | |
| I remember thinking that Mariah looked great, happy and healthy during 2003, especially during the tour. I found the album itself pretty underwhelming because I felt Mariah's singing on it was too restrained. The production and lyrics on most of the songs were really good, but I couldn't understand why Mariah did not let loose on every song the way she did on "Bringin' on the Heartbreak". I remember the Rolling Stone review of the album commenting that the Def Leppard cover was the best moment on the album and kind of agreeing with that. |
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This is a reply to message 101,727 by
Randy from USA
(Saturday 3 December 2022; 23:26) | | |
I remember a lot about that era. I couldn't believe how beautiful Through The Rain was and the video is stunning. She was still doing lipping climaxes to the records, but she was on every show, despite not having a hit single. The View, Oprah, Matt Lauer interviewed her, MTV gave her a special. I didn't care for a lot of the album and at the time, I remember one reviewer stating that she did so many different things on the album that it was like mixing watercolors only to end up with a puddle of brown. I remember Lyor Cohen saying that she brought class to DefJam. It was a time where MC garnered respect because of her earlier hits that weren't as far away, but Glitter wasn't the nail in the coffin. Charmbracelet was the first and last time I would pay to see MC live. She lipped most of it. I was in full fan mode that night with butterfly and rainbow stickers all up and down my arm.  It definitely is a moment. Through The Rain is the only way I make it to work many days. I still play Lullaby and Subtle Invitation. The rest of it is largely forgotten. But the era isn't. |
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QOC (101,713)
by BFF from United States
(Wednesday 30 November 2022; 22:33) | | |
| Bill, I'd like to remind you that pointing out anything that is unflattering to Mariah is insulting and demeaning. All posts must be reviewed by Mariah's team of expert sycophants to determine if it's flattering to Mariah. If it's flattering, we will allow it to move forward as "facts". If it's not flattering, the information cannot be mentioned. |
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This is a reply to message 101,709 by
Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 30 November 2022; 14:28) | | |
It was about where on earth you got the notion she "graciously stepped aside" on the matter. That's your interpretation based on the fact her legal team didn't respond within the time limit, nowhere has that been stated. Not by Mariah, her representatives, or any publication. As always you make up little embellishments to strengthen your opinion/narrative.
What probably happened, and I am speculating here, is that Mariah's team saw all the backlash from her attempt to trademark a phrase, as virtually every publication that wrote about it saw it for the money grab it was, and realised it would be more damaging to her brand than beneficial if she were to pursue it. |
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