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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Here For It All one year later (114,514) by Bill from the UK Mariah's been artificially enhancing her voice for decades, only back then they used to call it "engineering". As far back as Charmbracelet. (Wednesday 2 September 2026; 08:22) this is a reply to message 114,513

Here For It All one year later (114,513) by BFF from US I mean... considering Sony just sued Anthropic for "illegally training" Claude, you might be able to get a new Mariah album with her early 90s voice. Who knows. Mariah's voice might deteriorate to the point where she cannot do anything with it, and she might start using AI to record new music. I'd honestly be suspicious of almost anything released by any artist in the 2020s because of how ubiquitous generative AI has become. (Tuesday 1 September 2026; 23:04)

Here For It All one year later (114,502) by Bill from the UK I do agree in part. The creativity is definitely still there, and I don't think she'll ever lose that element of her talent. But, the delivery of these wonderful songs is just not good. It's like designing a Ferrari but sticking a Nissan engine inside. The two most recent albums have all the hallmarks of being great, with a few exceptions, but her inability to sing anymore means that they don't, and can't, go anywhere. When I put The Rarities into the CD player and heard that rich, vibrant, pitch perfect "let me tell you something baby" I just wept tears of joy and sadness. Her voice was so amazing, and whilst I was ecstatic to hear it again in something new, my heart broke as the further through the album you got, all it did was chronicle her vocal decline. So yes, respectfully we disagree. I'd rather have a whole album of demos from 1989 over another Caution of HFIA. (Saturday 29 August 2026; 12:45) this is a reply to message 114,500

Here For It All one year later (114,500) by Randy from USA Bill, you and I usually agree but I don't here. I find most of the unreleased stuff dreadful. To me they really represent cutting floor material. But each new album has surprises to me. Everyone on this board, and on the planet Earth, knows I hate MIAMTEC, but what a surprise Meteorite was for me. I never thought Mariah would get all abstract on us. Camouflage is one of the most beautiful things she's ever done. Caution's GTFO is very vile for a diva of Mariah's caliber and A No No is kinda genius. And as much as I hate the song Giving Me Life, again, I never thought I'd see MC doing two tempos on a record. Finally on Here For It All, Mi is a straight rap song and Gospel disco on Jesus I Do? Is that a new genre? I say all this to say, MC still has a lot of creativity and innovation in her even though the voice is shot. I'd love to still get new albums. Lots of them. (Friday 28 August 2026; 22:37)

Here For It All one year later (114,498) by Bill from the UK To be honest I'd rather she keep churning out the anniversary editions with the unreleased material over a new album with dreadful vocals. I'd sooner have My Prayer, Here We Go Around Again, Out Here On My Own and All I Live For over anything she's done in the last 20 years. Hopefully we get some unheard material from 2000/01 with the Glitter anniversary, and I pray she does the same for her first two albums. (Friday 28 August 2026; 14:56) this is a reply to message 114,496

Here For It All one year later (114,496) by BFF from US Mariah waited too long to release a new album after "Caution" and hasn't been focused on creating new music for quite some time. There are songs that I like from "Here For It All" and "Caution", depending on my mood. After the "Caution" release, I think Mariah made a mistake in allowing her holiday music and concerts to overshadow her impressive non-holiday catalogue. And since COVID hit in 2020, she has been leaning into anniversary editions of her older albums and anniversary concerts. It probably makes her a good bit of money, but it has also put her in a major creative rut. The writing and production on "Here For It All" were pretty good, but the voice and her overall health really seemed to deteriorate after the end of "The Butterfly Returns" residency in early 2020. (Friday 28 August 2026; 13:04)

Here For It All one year later (114,497) by Bill from the UK On point 5, Butterfly was issued with two covers. One with her eyes open, the other with her eyes closed. (Friday 28 August 2026; 14:54) this is a reply to message 114,492

Here For It All one year later (114,492) by Bobby A from United States Here For It All will always be that one Mariah Carey album that will be the least talked about Mariah Carey album twenty years from now. 1. It took seven years for MC to make Here For It All. 2. It is the first Mariah Carey album to feature the title track placed at the end of the album. 3. It the first Mariah Carey album to have songs written by MC's significant other at time. 4. The first Mariah Carey album to feature track one (Mi) that does not have a memorable hook. 5. Here For It Alll is the first Mariah Carey album to have multiple covers for the physical editions. 6. It is the first Mariah Carey album that faded away the quickest in terms of low album sales and streams after 3 months of its release. (Friday 28 August 2026; 00:09)

MC songs I've burnt out on (114,469) by Bill from the UK When I take a break from a Mariah record, hearing it on the radio really reinvigorates it for me. I listen to "Heart 90s" in my car, and they play MC every now and then, but thankfully it's not just Hero, I'll Be There, Hero, Without You, Hero, Hero and Hero like all the other stations. In the last week or so I've heard Vision of Love, Anytime You Need a Friend, Emotions, and Someday (which almost caused me to crash, the first and only time I've ever heard it on the radio). Songs sound brighter and more rounded and fuller on the radio and they sound like new. I've been playing Someday non-stop since I heard it (and it was the 7" Straight version at that). (Monday 24 August 2026; 10:14) this is a reply to message 114,464

MC songs I've burnt out on (114,464) by Randy from USA Between me, MC's live sets and the general public, I just have heard the following songs so much, I skip them on my playlists or on albums. Hero Fantasy All I Want For Christmas We Belong Together Shake It Off Is it just me? If you ask me what I play the most these days it's Heartbreaker with Jay Z, Through The Rain, Languishing, Petals and Angel's Cry with Neyo. (Sunday 23 August 2026; 23:50)

Glitter (114,448) by Bill from the UK 1. Loverboy Firecracker version 2. Out Here On My Own 3. Never Too Far / Hero medley 4. Didn’t Mean to Turn You On remix 5. Prince duet 6. Big Nasty sample song 7 through to 15 should be all new songs, but I suspect we’ll get the Loverboy and NTF/Hero remixes that were out at the time and a bunch of acapellas. If I set my expectations low I shouldn’t get too disappointed. A whole album worth of shelved songs and unheard material from the era is highly unlikely... but let’s see. (Saturday 22 August 2026; 20:18) this is a reply to message 114,444

Glitter (114,444) by Bobby A from United States The 15 tracks must be more than remixes for MC not to release the tracklist with the vinyl preorder. I read on Reddit that MC recorded a bunch of tracks with Stevie J. We could finally get to hear the Prince collaboration and the Vanity Six Nasty Girl sample. I feel we are going to be pleasantly surprised in October. (Saturday 22 August 2026; 11:45)

Snooze you look Virgin Records (114,446) by Bill from the UK In what world were the vocals on Butterfly not good? (Saturday 22 August 2026; 16:37) this is a reply to message 114,442

Snooze you look Virgin Records (114,442) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Virgin should have taken control of the project: 1. Keep the name All That Glitters for the movie. Release the movie as special tv movie on HBO or VH1. Whitney did that trend with Cinderella in 1997 and it worked. 2. Maintain Loverboy (Firecracker version) as the leading single. 3. The Loverboy (Candy version) can be released as the remix on the album just like Heartbreaker Remix on Rainbow. 4. Refrain Mariah from wearing that bandana in the music video. It cheapened her brand as the most expensive singing contract (apart from Whitney) at that time. 5. After the release of the album, book her for another Unplugged session. She needed to reconvince that she still got the voice after the disappointment of her vocals in her last two albums; Butterfly and Rainbow. Hire her a vocal coach. Madonna did this for her Evita project and she showed the vocal result of performing at Oscar for You Must Love Me. 6. Keep Out Here On My Own on the album and make that as second single. The song is much better telling a story of Billie Frank who was on her own after her mother left her and her boyfriend died. This could be her I Will Always Love You or My Heart Will Go On moment. (Saturday 22 August 2026; 08:58)

Snooze you look Virgin Records (114,441) by Bill from the UK There was no rat in Virgin. Tommy had access to the soundtrack because the production company for the film was Columbia Pictures, a division of Sony Pictures Entertainment. Also, Sony Music Japan released and distributed the album in Japan. So it was never under lock and key, but actually handed to him on a silver platter. That track listing is completely fake. (Saturday 22 August 2026; 08:08) this is a reply to message 114,433

Snooze you look Virgin Records (114,433) by Matty from Vancouver Canada It will be interesting for this new pressing of Glitter to be released via Island Def Jam and not a Virgin Records release. (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, was there a 2nd pressing in the last few years of all MC's albums on vinyl including Glitter? Around the time Glitter appeared back on Streaming?) Anyways - Virgin Records was really chicken sh** out by ending their relationship with Mariah in such a knee jerk way. I mean they still stood by Janet in 2004 and 2006 after the ridiculous Super Bowl insanity. Virgin panicked, and for the massive organization they were, they could have kept the ship sailing steady. Also, why did someone at Virgin even let Tommy hear Mariah's new music for Glitter? It should have been under lock and key ah-la Beyonce and Drake. There was obviously a rat in the mix (one of Tommy's spies) giving him the goods. Imagine Mariah hit us with the original plan of releasing Butterfly, then "All that Glitters" movie and soundtrack in 1999 as was intended? It's one of those sliding door moment of Mariah's like. Just like if "Art of Letting Go" album was released right after #Beautiful was climbing the charts while she was on American Idol. (Saturday 22 August 2026; 00:32)

New remix (114,420) by Bill from the UK The new remix is fab and according to the Deluxe placeholder on Amazon Music, we're getting 15 extra tracks including the new remix. I assume another two will be Out Here On My Own and Firecracker, but I will absolutely die if the Prince duet that was shelved has been cleared for release. Daydream and Glitter both getting this love in one year is incredible. Please Mariah don't forget about your stellar debut and the beautiful Emotions albums. (Thursday 20 August 2026; 14:28) this is a reply to message 114,418

New remix (114,418) by Jamie from UK I'm loving this new laid back remix of [Didn't mean to turn you on]. According to the web it contains new vocals from Mariah, is this correct? (Thursday 20 August 2026; 11:39)

Glitter (114,415) by Bill from the UK I love the “dah dah dah dahs” that bookend the Firecracker version. Sheer brilliance. (Wednesday 19 August 2026; 10:36) this is a reply to message 114,411

Glitter (114,411) by Edward from USA I agree, the "Firecracker" sample is barely noticeable on Jlo's song. Had Mariah stuck with it, "Loverboy" would've hit number one. I know we've gotten used to the Cameo version, but the Firecracker version is much more bouncy, poppy, and infectious. The Cameo version feels too busy, with so much going on, and on top of that, Mariah had to redo her vocals, which didn't come out as clean as they did on the Firecracker version. (Tuesday 18 August 2026; 17:16)

Glitter (114,404) by Bill from the UK The Firecracker sample was used on J.Lo's I'm Real remix which also featured Ja Rule, so it was like a combination of both. Ja Rule even said Tommy heard If We and was so impressed by how good it was that he got Ja Rule on J.Lo's remix immediately and asked him to do a similar sort of thing. Consequently two of the best tracks on Glitter were done for. Loverboy had to be re-recorded and re-sang as we know, and any plans to release If We as a single later had to be shelved. (Monday 17 August 2026; 20:38) this is a reply to message 114,402

Glitter (114,402) by nancy from Switzerland I thought Tommy Mottola stole the sample Firecracker that Mariah wanted to use for Loverboy in the first place. Then JLo used it for her remix [Ain't it funny] feat. Ja Rule. Maybe I missed something. (Monday 17 August 2026; 17:10)

A song's quality doesn't come from chart position (114,385) by Bill from the UK Through the Rain gets good from the bridge onwards, but until then it’s just a whisper-fest with weak production. That song could have, and should have, been epic. It needed a fuller vocal for the verses, and the production could have really gone all out with an orchestra, strings, choir etc. To me it just sounds like a demo and half baked. (Thursday 13 August 2026; 10:43) this is a reply to message 114,384

A song's quality doesn't come from chart position (114,384) by Randy from USA The way you all and MC beat up Through The Rain, Bye Bye, GTFO, IWKWLI is crazy. Those are good songs. There's no magic formula for a #1 or everyone would have one. TTR had a huge marketing campaign. Mariah performed that song on every talk show, award show and mall atrium on Earth. The video was amazing. The vocal is amazing. It's a song that means a lot to me. If the general public didn't care, their loss. I hate hearing her down talk it down now. Why because it peaked at #81? Nothing on Charmbracelet was a great lead single imo. The way she and ya'll beat up Bye Bye irritated me also. She also performed that song at every talk show, late night show and backyard cookout in America. I thought it was a touching song and she killed that climax; it's one of her best. It's also a song many can relate to. Who knows if Migrate would've been a hit. The production quality of Migrate had always sounded muddled to me. Bye Bye peaking at 19 killed the album. And I'm sorry E=MC2 was chock full of singles. It's probably her most commercial album. None of the others did well. So ya'll make out Bye Bye to be Satan's theme. Caution wasn't gonna sell no matter what was released. Mariah is older and nothing on that album is undeniable. A No No is close. Maybe with Cardi on it it woulda done well. IWKWLI was after that type of ballad's popularity but her climax is wonderful. I like the production of the first verse too. My point is MC for the most part puts out quality product. Doesn't matter where it lands chart wise. And is anyone doing the Macarena (#1 for 15 weeks) or singing Old Town Road these days (#1 for 19 weeks)? (Wednesday 12 August 2026; 21:55)

Eclipse (114,383) by Bill from the UK In honour of the eclipse tonight, I will be playing the Eclipse Dub of Dreamlover. That remix goes hard, I love it too much. Any UK/Spanish fans joining me? (Wednesday 12 August 2026; 14:10)

Caution reflections (114,378) by Bill from the UK There were elements of the video I liked though. There would be a shot of like a curtain billowing, or the sink filling up. I loved those, especially with the backdrop of that strange eerie lighting where it’s probably really early in the morning and dawn is about to break. Not a fan though of Mariah’s look in the video at all though so I barely ever watch it. (Monday 10 August 2026; 10:53) this is a reply to message 114,377

Caution reflections (114,377) by Randy from USA I love GTFO. It's an anthem and I've used it to underscore some posts I've made documenting some exits in my life. I hate the video. I don't know why the public didn't take to it or it didn't get a Instagram or TikTok trend started. That said I love Caution and A No No. Caution falls off a cliff after the first four tracks. Even with that cliff, it's better than MIAMTEC. Mariah has 16 albums, she'd be hard pressed to mention them in every interview. She doesn't talk about Emotions, Rainbow, E=MC2 or Memoirs often. (Sunday 9 August 2026; 18:02)

Caution reflections (114,369) by Bill from the UK Caution's great but I would have substituted GTFO for either I Don't or Unforgettable. She killed every hope of any radio airplay but releasing that song first. Honestly what the hell was she thinking. (Saturday 8 August 2026; 10:40) this is a reply to message 114,366

Caution reflections (114,366) by Bobby A from United States Caution was Mariah Carey at her best. Caution was better than MIAM. True or false? Caution should have been just as big as E=MC2. So what went wrong before Caution was released? (Saturday 8 August 2026; 01:29)

Can't waut to see who scoffs and mocks this (114,353) by Bill from the UK Lol, you're responsible for about a third of the list, so thanks. (Sunday 2 August 2026; 09:56) this is a reply to message 114,351

Can't waut to see who scoffs and mocks this (114,351) by Giovanni from USA You try so hard to be funny, we get the point. (Saturday 1 August 2026; 23:38)

Can't waut to see who scoffs and mocks this (114,341) by Bill from the UK Ding ding ding. We finally made it to 50. Congratulations to everyone for this collective effort. Be proud. Excuses given for why Mariah can’t move or sing anymore: 1. Ear monitor malfunction 2. No humidifiers 3. Too cold 4. Too hot 5. Stage fright 6. Corset too tight 7. Heels too high 8. Preserving her voice 9. Scared of Michael Jackson's casket 10. Didn't want to upstage the Queen of Soul 11. Wanted to respect her peers 12. Bronchitis 13. Stressful divorce/break up 14. Arm in a sling 15. Pregnant 16. Not pregnant 17. Nodules 18. Too many splashes 19. Medicated 20. Backing singers missed their cue 21. Backing singers singing her part now baby 22. Foiled by Dick Clarke Productions 23. Late for the sound check 24. Not enough sleep 25. Too much sleep 26. Bipolar 27. Food poisoning 28. Mic wasn't turned up 29. Shit happens 30. Avoiding wrinkles 31. Nothing to prove 32. Prioritising her children 33. Too early in the morning 34. Too late at night 35. Broken hip 36. Parkinson’s 37. Alzheimer’s 38. Fibromyalgia 39. Arthritis 40. Dementia 41. Lack of vocal surgery 42. Botched vocal surgery 43. Inadequate breath support 44. Preparing for Christmas shows 45. Rhinoplasty impacting singing ability 46. Breast augmentation impacting singing ability 47. Nerve damage 48. James Packer conspiring to murder her 49. Wants to be left alone 50. Being drugged by an aide in her team (Friday 31 July 2026; 11:43) this is a reply to message 114,337

Can't waut to see who scoffs and mocks this (114,337) by Chris from United States WARNING: CONSPIRACY THEORY Okay, this is certainly a very dark period in this woman's life, and I'd even go out and say it might be worst then when Stella was around. There is only one person on this board who actually thought outside the box, and brought up the fact that she's being drugged, unbeknownst to her. No one wanted to chime in on this, because most people are too afraid to let go of their egos. Remember back in 2016 when we had Stella running around and making a sad little ass of herself? Remember how she inserted herself in every part of MC's celebrity status? Do you remember how we all knew who she was and what vile vermin she is? That's the thing, she made a spectacle of herself where you could see Mariah waking up at some point, and she did. Thank God. Picture this, some mysterious figure behind the scenes turning her life upside down. Except this time, it's done on a discreet level, and a smart one at that. What I'm seeing now, is that they've finally gotten her. I'm already preparing for the day when we hear about her untimely death. Most likely, everyone will be blaming her and how bad she was with her vices. We've all seen these stories play out in the media. Look how dirty they've done MJ, Whitney, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, and Britney Spears (that poor soul). We all know damn well there were forces behind those passings. Here we are scratching our heads and trying to connect the dots. It's confusing, and I think that's on purpose. The writing is on the wall, and clear as day to me. I noticed that she was off back in December of 2023. While most were sitting around praising her, I could see the beginnings of something strange. Did I think it was this bad back then? No, but I haven't let my guard down, and sure enough here we are. It's not dementia, it's not meds, it's not bipolar, it's not aging (lol, are you kidding me?). This woman's whole baseline and personality just fell off completely, and the fact that you're still entertaining these run of the mill theories is quite laughable. Look, I mean really take a sobering glance at Mariah the Carey. We've heard and seen her carry herself with grace and some form of control, all while speaking about keeping herself grounded. Is she perfect? Hell no, but I don't believe for a second that she's just slipped and gone off the deep end. Something else is at play, and the sooner you realize it, the less it will hurt when they do her in. Or, she pulls a 180 just like with that wacky make up wearing bandit, and fixes this - I hope I'm wrong. Take care. (Friday 31 July 2026; 03:53)

Leaving the spotlight for a while (114,333) by Bill from the UK MC and D-Waz also wrote There For Me as well I believe. (Thursday 30 July 2026; 12:59) this is a reply to message 114,332

Leaving the spotlight for a while (114,332) by Chris Owen from UK Mariah has already collaborated with Diane Warren on "After Tonight" from Rainbow. I think afterward Mariah said something along the lines that their writing styles weren't compatible (Thursday 30 July 2026; 09:57)

Leaving the spotlight for a while (114,316) by Bill from the UK Damn. Our girl’s gonna be in that spotlight for the next 200 years. (Wednesday 29 July 2026; 09:25) this is a reply to message 114,315

Leaving the spotlight for a while (114,315) by Bobby A from United States I believe MC won't leave the spotlight until two or more of the following happens: 1. successful album singles that are radio hits and land in the Hot 100 top 10 2. one more multi-platinum selling album 3. several Grammy wins 4. inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 5. one more critically acclaim cover similar to Without You 6. one more successful duet collaboration similar to One Sweet Day 7. finally completes her biographical project with Lee Daniels 8. a duet with Kelly Clarkson written with Diane Warren that is long overdue (Wednesday 29 July 2026; 02:09)

Leaving the spotlight for a while (114,312) by Bill from the UK I doubt she'd be doing concerts and Christmas shows if that was the case. (Tuesday 28 July 2026; 13:06) this is a reply to message 114,311

Leaving the spotlight for a while (114,311) by Zachariah from Croatia I think she just wants to be left alone. I know I would if I lost a mother and sister and being single with no support from a partner. I would be just that - "Leave me alone." (Tuesday 28 July 2026; 11:40)

Soulless (114,278) by Bill from the UK Gotta love those yass queens. If everything ends in tragedy, the blood's on their hands. (Thursday 23 July 2026; 14:32) this is a reply to message 114,277

Soulless (114,277) by Lighty from China I wrote on this board last year or even earlier that I suspected Mariah had Alzheimer's or something like that, and then some yass queen called me out questioning me "Are you a medic?" I wonder how they feel about Mariah's situation now. (Thursday 23 July 2026; 14:26)

More depth to the interesting video (114,267) by Bill from the UK I first noticed Mariah entered that statuesque and spaced out manner as far back as E=MC2, particularly around the I Stay In Love promo and in that video too. There was some footage of her in the studio and her hands were visibly shaking. In the video for ISIL as well, she doesn't appear to move much, except when she's walking away from the exploding car (which by the way seemed to have nothing to do with the plot other than "let's have the car explode"). I attributed it at the time to the miscarriage and her likely being on some sort of medication to deal with either the physical and/or emotional toll of that experience. Then she seemed like herself again during the pregnancy, Memoirs, MCIIY, and the beginning of the MIAM era with Triumphant. It seemed the catalyst was the arrival of Stella and the Nightmare Era. She's never been the same since. I suppose I have to admire the old brass for going out there and (ellipses), well, I can't call it singing nor performing. But I guess just going out there. But at what cost? (Wednesday 22 July 2026; 11:35) this is a reply to message 114,265

More depth to the interesting video (114,265) by T from USA She's been acting dependent on drugs (maybe opioids) since the fall in 2013. Because she was fine on American Idol, even showing up on time for the telecasts. All the tardiness and aloof behavior came after the fall, after being put on pain killers. I'm wondering if she's still on them and the dose now is uncontrollable. (Wednesday 22 July 2026; 03:28)

More depth to the interesting video (114,261) by Bill from the UK How dare you. That list is a record of genuine, bone fide reasons as to why Mariah occasionally has to lip sync a couple of lines during one of her show stopping performances. (Tuesday 21 July 2026; 15:23) this is a reply to message 114,260

More depth to the interesting video (114,260) by Edward from USA Bill, I don't appreciate your sarcasm. We've just been informed that Packer not only murdered Patricia but also her sister Alison. This is horrifying news. (Tuesday 21 July 2026; 13:28)

More depth to the interesting video (114,258) by Bill from the UK I've added "James Packer conspiring to murder her" to my list of excuses as to why Mariah can't move or sing anymore. In my view it's probably as simple as her battling this mystery neurodegenerative disorder, whilst at the same time mixing prescription medication for her bipolar disorder with alcohol. (Tuesday 21 July 2026; 07:19) this is a reply to message 114,253

More depth to the interesting video (114,253) by T from USA Ok, now we're getting somewhere. I had never put the connection together between leaving James Packer and screwing him out of so much money and the NYE fiasco. It does make perfect sense. She fired back on "Caution" with some pretty stingy songs but maybe he got the last laugh and had her mom and sister killed on the same day. It's been reported he's into some shady things and maybe he knows a lot of dangerous people. I wonder if Mariah feels guilt about that relationship now and all the trauma it's caused thereafter. Maybe hence the medication to cope. Or maybe the people drugging her are part of the conspiracy. (Tuesday 21 July 2026; 02:39)

Daydream 30 (114,247) by Bill from the UK I do my friend. Chains is one of my most favourite songs ever. I loved it since I first heard it in early 1995 and play it a few times a month ever since that day. Her "Don't Ask" album it stemmed from was great. (Monday 20 July 2026; 11:07) this is a reply to message 114,239

Daydream 30 (114,239) by Bobby A from United States I understand better now. Thank you for explaining. Your post made me think about the other female powerhouse singer, Lara Fabian. Also, today I found a maxi CD of Tina Arena's Chains with various remixes. Do you have a copy? (Sunday 19 July 2026; 22:44)

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