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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,734) by Bill from the UK The Butterfly single had a lacklustre reception in the territories where it was released, so I don't think it would have reached number one on the Billboard Hot 100. It's a beautiful song, but it's better as the album's theme. Breakdown on the other hand was absolutely robbed of its chance. I'm not sure it would have topped the charts but it certainly should have been given the chance to shoot its shot, and expose more people to it. Songs like Breakdown and The Roof were the backbone of that album. (Monday 22 December 2025; 21:22) this is a reply to message 112,733

(Rare unseen) Butterfly (Live in Honolulu, Butterfly tour) (112,733) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia Beginning October 1997 until January 1998, the number one song was Elton John's Candle In The Wind. The song was a tribute to Lady Diana's passing. That song was everywhere. So I had a feeling that maybe Sony didn't release Butterfly as a single because they knew Butterfly would only reach No 2 and imagine what the media headlines would be, and somehow this eventually would damage the reputation of the album. (Monday 22 December 2025; 11:11)

Diamond certification for Merry Christmas (112,714) by Bill from the UK All the more reason for MC to re-release the debut as a deluxe, with the demo versions (which she always proclaimed to be better) as a bonus disc. I can't wait for my Christmas break from work as I always book out one day to spend with the debut album. I play that, the singles and remixes, The Live Debut EP, and watch The First Vision and a home made DVD of live performances from the era. (Tuesday 16 December 2025; 16:49) this is a reply to message 112,712

Diamond certification for Merry Christmas (112,712) by Edward from USA "Merry Christmas" officially received RIAA Diamond certification on December 15, 2025. "Mariah Carey" has been stuck at 9× Platinum for 25 years now, so I think that album pretty much ran its course. Unless there's some sudden, unexpected renewed interest in it, and judging by how interested this generation is in her music other than Christmas, I doubt we'll see that happen in another 25 years. (Tuesday 16 December 2025; 15:14)

The demo tape (112,710) by Bill from the UK I will always say that Ben Margulies was the best writing partner she ever had, hands down. Original, varied, unique creations with interesting arrangements. Every song sounded completely different to the other, and like nothing else before them. Walter who. (Tuesday 16 December 2025; 10:08) this is a reply to message 112,707

The demo tape (112,707) by Bobby A from United States It is a shame that Ben Marguilies' and MC's professional relationship ended after the demo tape. It would have been nice to see what they could have created for Emotions. (Tuesday 16 December 2025; 08:51)

The demo tape (112,702) by Bill from the UK Yes and no. So, Mariah had her original demo tape (the one Tommy got his hands on at the party), that she put together pre-fame. For the longest time, the songs contained on it were Alone In Love, All In Your Mind, Someday, Vanishing and Do You Ever Wonder. That was according to "Her Story". This tape however seems to have another song (unreleased). That may well be Hypnotized, or another song entirely. When Mariah was signed to CBS (as it was back then), the process of putting an album together involves the artist producing several songs in demo format. These are presented to the executives who then "green light" the selection to go into recording/production, or go back to be revised and changed, or the direction changed etc. It may be that the demo Mariah referenced was the beta version of what would end up being her debut album. I guess we won't really ever know for certain. It just drives me mad that there are things like this out there that will likely forever remain a mystery. (Monday 15 December 2025; 21:05) this is a reply to message 112,698

The demo tape (112,698) by BFF from United States Didn't Mariah say that "Hypnotized" was one of songs on her demo tape? She tweeted about listening to this song back in 2015, so she clearly has access to some or all of the songs she registered and recorded prior to her record deal with Sony. (Monday 15 December 2025; 16:26)

The demo tape (112,694) by Bill from the UK Yes I just read more on the auction site and it clearly says it can’t be redistributed or sold etc. in any way. What a shame. Well, I hope whoever got it enjoys it for many years. (Monday 15 December 2025; 11:12) this is a reply to message 112,692

The demo tape (112,692) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands They only bought the tape, not the rights to the songs. So all you can do with the tape is listen to it. You can't play it on radio or tv and you certainly can not release the songs. I'm sure Mariah has another copy of the tape, but I don't know if she has the rights to the songs. (Monday 15 December 2025; 09:58)

The demo tape (112,691) by Bill from the UK So Mariah's demo tape sold at auction for $54,050. A little out of my price range. I hope Mariah won the bid and will release it, or whoever did win it will digitise it for the world to enjoy. It had 5 songs that ended up on the debut plus 2 unheard ones (one of which I assume was Do You Ever Wonder which was mentioned in "Her Story" by Chris Nickson). (Monday 15 December 2025; 07:13)

Sugar Sweet (112,669) by Bill from the UK Sugar Sweet is dead pumpkin. Let's move on. (Saturday 13 December 2025; 11:57) this is a reply to message 112,668

Sugar Sweet (112,668) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia The solo version which can be found in deluxe version of the album should be pushed as the second single with official video. The solo version has Mariah singing the first verse and second verse. But still the solo version lacked a bridge. The remix should be the one with those two girls that I don't bother remembering their names. (Saturday 13 December 2025; 10:50)

Article: Mariah Carey's grunge album release date revealed (112,657) by Bill from the UK Interesting development. If this is true, I'm looking forward to hearing this and seeing it released with Mariah's 1995 vocals. What a treat that would be. A delayed anniversary present for Daydream. (Friday 12 December 2025; 14:30)

Would you rather? (112,607) by Bill from the UK What I don't understand is how parents are fine to let their young daughters listen to her swear and speak in an especially vulgar way in so many of her songs. With the internet there's no escaping it, but children should not be desensitised to language that foul. (Saturday 6 December 2025; 11:37) this is a reply to message 112,606

Would you rather? (112,606) by TJ from Norway I really don't understand why TS is so popular. It's like people are under a spell. (Saturday 6 December 2025; 09:45)

Discography (112,597) by Bill from the UK I believe it's retired/on an indefinite hiatus. Mariah stopped releasing physical singles across multiple regions a long time ago, and the only interesting physical item she's put out in recent memory is the AIWFCIY anniversary singles (where the OG black and white cover was released in full over saturated colour), and the Here We Go Around Again cassette. Everything else stinks. (Thursday 4 December 2025; 20:30) this is a reply to message 112,594

Discography (112,594) by Zachariah from Croatia Just wondering - when will her discography on this page be updated? I noticed that few albums are missing such as Rarities and HFIA. I hope everyone is fine and surviving this demanding time of year. (Thursday 4 December 2025; 15:48)

My Love (112,579) by Bill from the UK Lead the Way was the only hold over from Butterfly, and that - thankfully - found its way onto Glitter. (Tuesday 2 December 2025; 07:02) this is a reply to message 112,571

My Love (112,571) by Giovanni from USA There's an AI version of "My love" in Butterfly voice and in my opinion it's good. A very nice r&b version that would have fit perfectly on the Butterfly album. I'm kind of disappointed that we have never heard any unreleased songs from '97. There has to be at least one or two that didn't make the album. (Monday 1 December 2025; 04:23)

Muni Long (112,557) by Bill from the UK Am I the only one here who has no idea who or what Muni Long is? (Sunday 30 November 2025; 12:18)

A little life update (112,458) by Bill from the UK Congratulations Mimi L, what lovely news. (Thursday 20 November 2025; 23:09) this is a reply to message 112,447

A little life update (112,447) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I wanted to share some good news with my little MCA family, it's also the reason I've been MIA mostly the past few months. My husband and I are expecting our first baby, a little baby girl. You best believe she will be introduced to Mariah really early on so we will have a baby lamb joining the lambily soon. Who knows down the line Eric may have a new member join this board haha. Keep us in your thoughts and prayers. Promise I won't be influenced by Nick Cannon's baby names. (Thursday 20 November 2025; 12:44)

Yours (112,428) by Bill from the UK Indeed. Sorry Justin, but "you had your chance". (Tuesday 18 November 2025; 12:36) this is a reply to message 112,425

Yours (112,425) by Edward from USA Exactly. I think Mariah hasn't pushed for it out of self-respect. (Tuesday 18 November 2025; 02:46)

Damizza won't stop vomiting untruths (112,397) by Bill from the UK I've said it before, I'll say it again. Thirsty always was about Damizza. (Saturday 15 November 2025; 11:30) this is a reply to message 112,390

Damizza won't stop vomiting untruths (112,390) by Randy from USA I saw this and cursed out my phone. This never happened. Like MC once said, what would that sound like, I sing and she does something else. I totally don't believe it and I wish he'd get a life or a career besides discussing a woman he hasn't seen or talked to in 20+ years. Dirtball. Every time he talks I feel the need to bathe in some sudsy ammonia. I hope he's not on the hand. (Friday 14 November 2025; 21:16)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,385) by Bill from the UK Yes, I still have my collection. Well, I had to sell a large portion of it "when times got rough", but I maintained what I always called my "core" collection, which was all her UK cassettes, CDs, promos and vinyl, all her Euro Maxi CDs, anything with something unique to it (picture sleeve, picture disc, special remix not found elsewhere). Now that almost everything is available digitally, it stays nicely preserved in its box, but occasionally on rainy days I take it out and spend the day with it. Digital will never beat physical. (Thursday 13 November 2025; 21:34) this is a reply to message 112,381

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,381) by TJ from Norway I just wonder if she will ever release that demo? That is something I really would love to add to my collection. It's on the shelf collecting dust, but it's mine. I could never get rid of that collection, but I don't play cds that much because the cd player is not in the living room, and I really need a new sound system at home. How about you guys? Do you still have a physical collection? Maybe you never had a collection at all? (Thursday 13 November 2025; 16:06)

Alzheimer's (112,374) by Bill from the UK I thought you were taking a break. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 20:38) this is a reply to message 112,358

Alzheimer's (112,358) by Anonymous from USA I know you said you're not a writer but I beg to differ. Your imagination goes wild with speculation. I think you've got true potential. Very promising. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 01:56)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,363) by Bill from the UK Wow. I hope Mariah bids and wins the auction and then releases this gem for us all to enjoy. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 08:34)

Alzheimer's (112,309) by Bill from the UK "She's given us 30 years of crazy live performances, isn't that enough?" It's actually only 6 years of crazy live performances. (Saturday 8 November 2025; 08:13) this is a reply to message 112,299

Alzheimer's (112,299) by JLR from United States The fact that you guys are diagnosing her without knowing a single thing or being a medical professional is wild. Just throwing random medical terms out there like it's any of your business is crazy. I hope she stays away from this message board. If you don't like how she performs now then don't watch. She's given us 30 years of crazy live performances, isn't that enough? You know she's human right? Age is a process nobody can escape, some grace would be nice. (Friday 7 November 2025; 20:13)

The arrogance (112,282) by Bill from the UK They were referring to the “It’s Time” video, not the Israel and Palestine situation. It’s a sponsored video made in the spirit of fun, not a political statement on a genocide. Pull yourself together. (Thursday 6 November 2025; 17:53) this is a reply to message 112,278

The arrogance (112,278) by Geronimo from USA Have a free correction for your benefit: distinguish between the fact that while, perhaps you are not "that deep", the matter at hand is most certainly "that deep". You and Mariah will soon see more clearly. Now, "cheers, cheers, cheers". (Thursday 6 November 2025; 15:59)

The arrogance (112,274) by Bill from the UK I am sure you'll forget it once you're told about the next flag to overlay on your social media accounts. Congrats to Mariah for hailing in the season and here's to a successful end of the year to her. (Thursday 6 November 2025; 14:06) this is a reply to message 112,268

The arrogance (112,268) by Geronimo from USA You seem to be attempting to miss the point in public on purpose. Standing up for what is right is non-negotiable - especially when the public is bringing your betrayal to your attention while you try to hustle religious songs at Christmas about love, joy, and peace. If she had any foresight at all, she might want to consider canceling her Christmas charade this year - especially since her latest album stands as a very public statement regarding the difference between what is happening on stage and what audiences will be hearing. Entertainment is all fine and good. But, when the time comes to step up, you either step up or be counted for what you are. If all Mariah sang about was "panties to the side", then perhaps addressing her as a moral being would be a moot point. Not everybody has to say everything, every time, about every issue, but Mariah Carey is making money endorsing a company whose CEO is using the money that Mariah Carey is making for Sephora to donate millions of dollars intended to directly support a racist, apartheid state currently committing a live-streamed genocide I believe Mariah Carey has used the public airways to the show pictures of Nelson Mandela in her deluxe apartment in the sky, no? Then, it's relevant to hold her accountable for the fact that all you have to do is Google "Sephora boycott" and the first three stories that pop up have to do with a Christian woman who sings songs about Jesus, but is dedicating her talent to the people who are destroying the lives of the people born where he lived and was literally executed by the state because he was committed to being an authentic enough version of himself that he became a threat to the goals of the Roman empire. Mariah Carey, who is not broke, chooses to use what she calls her God-given talent to enrich people "making large donations to former President Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign" while she sings "its tiiiiiime" to listen to her lip sync "glory to the newborn King" and "peace on earth". While she partners with Sephora, company owner Bernard Arnault invests hundreds of millions in Israeli companies while that nation is actively committing what everyone whose opinion counts has acknowledged is a genocide. She sings about diamonds and comments in public that she doesn't understand why some people don't "like" diamonds, all the while Sephora founder, chairman, and CEO Bernard Arnault - who invests hundreds of millions in Israeli companies, including Lusix, an Israeli diamond company - donates millions of dollars to companies from the country whose diamond exports fund over $1 billion of the Israeli Occupation Forces budget annually. LVMH's Sephora stores retail products from Ahava, one of the top 8 companies on the BDS boycott list for stealing Palestine's natural resources, eviscerating its environment, and operating in illegal settlements. So it matters that Mariah Carey is either too ignorant, too greedy, or both to make a morally intelligent decision at her age. With all the capacity she has to know better and do better, she is actively and willfully doing far less than people who have with far less but are, themselves, putting their lives and careers on the line in order to be the kind of witness to peace and love that Mariah only sings about in her songs - her notable charitable contributions notwithstanding. And let's not forget, in her personal life, Mariah Carey made the choice to date James Packer - a man who (allegedly) gave war Benjamin Netanyahu a key to his home - also the man whose gifts to Benjamin Netanyahu are the reason why Benjamin Netanyahu is currently up on corruption charges. These are her choices. She is not simply failing to burn her bra on stage and release a protest album. She is actively earning money with some of the most evil people currently on the world stage today. That matters - and saying so has nothing to do with "arrogance". If Eartha Kitt can do better, Mariah Carey can do better. If Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone, Billie Holiday, Sinead O'Connor, Lauryn Hill, and the artists formerly known as the Dixie Chicks can do better (and they certainly did), then Mariah Carey can at least Google herself and recognize that she is being exposed as a fraud (again) and do something about it now. And yes, I still love "Confetti and Champagne", because she's a phenomenal singer, a very clever songwriter, and the song is super cute. But it sounds a little different right about now. (Thursday 6 November 2025; 03:29)

3 albums (112,225) by Bill from the UK There's a magic to the debut that was never recaptured (if I could recapture). Everyone always bleats on about working with Walter again, but I've always wanted her to collaborate with Ben Margulies again instead. Every Walter song had a similar style and structure. Same for the JD productions, and the C&C collabs. Every Carey/Margulies composition was unique and different to the one before it. The songs had a charm and innocence to them, genuine melodies and interesting arrangements. She's never had that with anyone since and it is, along with the exceptional voice, what makes the debut such a standout and my favourite. (Monday 3 November 2025; 17:53) this is a reply to message 112,221

3 albums (112,221) by MusicfanJ from Germany I also love her debut so much. It was so hard to only choose three, so I had to pick others. But the debut also has a special place in my heart. (Monday 3 November 2025; 10:11)

O Holy Night (112,183) by Bill from the UK I always considered Sprung her most Halloween-esque sounding song as it has that weird high pitched whistling instrument that is used in spooky cartoons all the way through it. (Friday 31 October 2025; 20:23) this is a reply to message 112,161

O Holy Night (112,161) by Dove from United States I love the way she sings the first "Oh" in O Holy Night on the Merry Christmas II You version. I hate the background cheering on it. I wish she'd do a Halloween song for my Halloween party playlist. Or a 5 or 6 song Halloween album. Ballroom Blitz? I remember when I was a little kid I would watch Wayne's World and wish Mariah sang that song. Ha ha. Happy Halloween everyone. I hope everyone has fun tonight. (Friday 31 October 2025; 11:59)

3 albums (112,163) by Bill from the UK I'd rather it be 3 albums we can erase from her discography than save. This is so tricky as MC's albums are good for different reasons. Like vocally I'd select the debut, Emotions and Merry Christmas. Lyrically it would be Butterfly, Charmbracelet and Memoirs. In terms of end to end enjoyment it'd be Music Box, Daydream and Emancipation. In terms of artistry it'd be Here For It All, Glitter, and Caution. So, yeh. All of them lol. (Friday 31 October 2025; 12:35) this is a reply to message 112,155

3 albums (112,155) by TJ from Norway Let's say that for some reason everyone on earth forgot all of MCs albums except 3 of them. Which 3 albums from her catalogue would you keep for everyone to enjoy? And why? (Friday 31 October 2025; 06:40)

Refreshing (112,125) by Bill from the UK And "I'll Be There - casket edition" from MJ's funeral. (Tuesday 28 October 2025; 07:09) this is a reply to message 112,120

Refreshing (112,120) by Edward from USA The "With You I'm Born Again", "It's Like That" and "I'll Be There" performances from the VH1 Save The Music 2005 special were all live. I was there, third row. She sung each song twice. (Tuesday 28 October 2025; 01:59)

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