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Here For It All... so far (110,386)
by Shezz from Pk
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So in one of the interviews she just said she will be performing 4 songs from HFIA at Sandringham. Bobby A I'm sure you caught that. I hope one of them is the title track which she said has gospel and jazz tangents. If the leaked song titles are to be believed, she wrote that with Daniel Moore. Very unlike her to perform unreleased songs at a concert, that even a festival kind.
While it's taken me a while to get used to her 2025 interview energy, some of them haven't been all that bad. Excited for Alan Carr on Monday. I do hope she starts talking about the album soon, I understand she doesn't want to reveal too much about it this early but then why do all these album interviews. I suppose they're more for her to tell the gp she's doing non Christmas music and she'll probably do more in depth music ones at the time of release like that Genius one she did with Caution.
I love how she was discussing her "defrosting" with an interviewer with such a straight face.
While I did like TD and SS, they're certainly not up there with her more iconic singles from the 2000s. According to insiders, SS remixes are coming soon. Will be interesting if that's true. I'm glad TD is having some success on certain charts. Both the singles, though not MC singles strong, are definitely top 40 worthy for today's music.
I do hope there are a good amount of songs with more mature and meaningful lyrics on the album. SS is a reinterpretation of Honey of sorts, at least a similar subject matter but Honey was written with so much more sophistication.
I have made peace with her 2025 voice but she has full control over her penmanship still.
I understand that she is still chasing success and numbers and that's why she released these singles hoping to grab the attention of the younger audience that drives the streaming based charts now but I really do hope she has more.
Kudos for all the radio interview efforts - time for some podcasts and tv appearances.
(Saturday 9 August 2025; 05:53)
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Sugar Sweet video clip (110,246)
by Shezz from Pk
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Jamie, I don't think that's a clip for the official video. It's another home video clip for TikTok/promotion like she did for TD as well. She looks good, yes the editing is off. She looks so beautiful when she smiles, needs to do that more than these serious expressions that read more lost than sexy. Looking forward to seeing how she performs SS in Brighton. She's going to bring the energy again like the Capital ball.
(Thursday 31 July 2025; 11:52)
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Sugar Sweet video clip (110,238)
by Jamie from UK
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So Mariah has shown a clip of the new [Sugar Sweet] video. What you guys think? She loves a stairway I'll give her that, remember I Don't. I love the ensemble, she looks really nice. I just wish her face would show it too, she looks miserable, she looked happier in the kitchen clip she did. There's a part in the video where her eyes go to the left like she's looking for direction, it's a poor edit if that's gonna be in the final video. She looks nice, I just don't think it's going to rescue the song.
(Thursday 31 July 2025; 08:55)
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Sugar Sweet lyrics: "Cause I will absolutely get the ring"? (110,188)
by Shezz from Pk
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That's exactly what I thought as well. "I will absolutely get the ring" is another way of saying "I know that you'll be back boy." He'll call her and want to see her again. I don't think she means "I know he's going to marry me eventually." How ridiculous would that be. We need her to clear that up for us.
I love the Harper's Bazaar cover and shoot.
(Tuesday 29 July 2025; 14:08)
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Sugar Sweet lyrics: "Cause I will absolutely get the ring"? (110,146)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
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Oh I thought she meant "the ring" as in "phone call", ie she's not worried because she knows he'll be back, not going anywhere, will reach back out to her. Perhaps it's a double entendre.
The song is very catchy. I've listened to it several times back to back, so this could be the one. It really gives me the "Mariah is back" feel... like a very enjoyable album is on the way.
(Tuesday 29 July 2025; 00:56)
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Andrew (110,099)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed Mimi L. His ridiculous outbursts at you are my last memories of him. Whoever still has a soft spot or sympathy for him should maintain a direct private relationship with him.
Bobby A. is downplaying how rude he was to him. And then of course the daily nonstop venom spewed at Mariah.
There are plenty of people here who don't like her current music or style or what have you but they always express it with respect and love still for her.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 19:09)
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Andrew (110,089)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I for one am glad he's gone and hope he stays gone. I think everyone on this board forgot why he was banned. I can appreciate people having different takes and different opinions about MC but Andrew's opinions weren't just about Mariah. His very last stunt was being extremely violent towards me and a few others on this board. He resorted to name calling, personally attacking and just making outrageous posts that had no business here. All because he didn't agree with my views. I get some people who know him say that he was going though personal stuff but no amount of stuff going on in your personal life justifies viciously attacking someone on a freaking messageboard. Not only was he a bully, he also never considered that the person he's throwing insults at may have personal things going on themselves but didn't resort to his level of insult hurling. His language had gotten so bad when responding to me the webmaster had to stop posting them. Not only included abusive language he would also constantly demean people for their English, myself included when English isn't our first language. He was petty, a bully and downright abusive and this wasn't the first time he did that to me at least and wouldn't have been the last if he wasn't stopped.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:11)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,041)
by Shezz from Pk
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It was the twins out leopard print dress. Then the styling just took it over the edge. A misstep after some pretty good looks the last couple of months.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 13:12)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,035)
by Jamie from UK
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I didn't feel Mariah was looking her best on Jimmy Kimmel, she looked a bit cheap and not glamorous. Just my opinion. I've seen her looking better. I think it was the hair and earrings made her look a bit street.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 11:50)
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Sugar Sweet (110,023)
by Shezz from Pk
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Ok, an instant ear worm. I love the beat and love how all 3 of them blend seamlessly on the song. No one feels like a cut and paste after thought. This is how you arrange a trio - Walter take notes. Doesn't seem short at all. I think it'll do better with the streamers and the TikTokers than TD did. Feels more like a Mariah song than TD did (no hate for TD, I do really like it). Another interpolation (ILT) that fit well. Has potential to do way better than TD. I love Mariah's chest voice specially on "I hope that you don't mind, I'm gonna take my time". That's the sweet spot of the song.
If I had to nitpick, I know Mariah loves to add all her textures but her head voice isn't as smooth anymore. And the fan art cover. Actually fan art has become brilliantly better with AI.
Will be interesting to see how it does - JLo has dropped her Birthday song as well. I know we all need to not focus on chart success anymore but the truth of the matter is that unless she and the label see decent numbers, there really won't be much more music from her.
Also, Bobby A. I may be wrong but I feel like Here For It All might be an introspective ballad with Daniel Moore.
Happy Sugar Sweet weekend guys. No more reprimanding please.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 07:12)
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Here For It All (109,905)
by Shezz from Pk
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Stacey I wouldn't call you a "Tommy Era only" fan. Key word being "only". You show love for her all the time and you never partake in any bashing. You're a wonderful person and wow you have a 17 year old. I too fell in love with her during the Tommy era and I will never deny those were her best years, but I still look forward to what she releases now. It is what it is. Here for it all. Pun intended.
I love the album title and the cover art, although it feels more like a photograph you'd generally find in the album liners than on the cover. It's very reminiscent of a magazine shoot she did a few years ago, I think for W.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 03:42)
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Here For It All (109,899)
by Stacey from USA
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I love the title. It speaks to her amazing career and all those events (good and bad) that have shaped who she is today. Did you guys know Here For It All has the same release date as Daydream? That can't be a coincidence, right? 9/26 is also my daughter's 17th birthday. So of course in her honor I'll be buying Mariah's new album, lol. Amazon has exclusive cover art releasing on July 23rd. As a Tommy era fan, I'm not stressing about anything. I always hope for the best.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 01:56)
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The new finished snippet (109,869)
by Shezz from Pk
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As Mimi L. explained it to us, the lyrics are basically Honey 2.0 but from her perspective. Hopefully they've been kept open enough for people to derive whatever meaning they want to. I can't wait for the announcement today. I wonder if we're getting a tracklisting as well or just the cover art and title (and hopefully the date). And then Friday the new single. Exciting times for most of us. Stressful times for the Tommy era only fans. Will she tarnish their image of her they've clung to even more? I hope there's something in MC16 for everybody
(Monday 21 July 2025; 12:29)
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The new finished snippet (109,865)
by Haiji from United States
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Great ear, Terna. No wonder I instantly thought Sensational by CB vibes lol. I hope it is similar though, I love that song. I'm praying her lyrics in this song are sweet and fun and not her being petty about a guy and dissing him. I guess the lyrics could go either way, "Ima keep it nice, Ima keep it neat, Ima keep it suga, Ima keep it sweet", could also mean "don't mess with me and everything gon be cool" lol or am I reaching?
(Monday 21 July 2025; 02:34)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,820)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha I think I have this right let me try Brad criticized TD and Mariah's choices (as is his right, this is a Mariah discussion forum) I'm paraphrasing but I think he said it's not age appropriate and not quality work. Then another member (I think Victoria - not sure so sorry if I'm wrong) responded by saying it's not his place to decide how women (Mariah included) should behave at what age (as is her right). She went on to say that a lot of people here love to bash M and mock her (which is not too far from the truth but I suppose it is their right) and then I think she implied he was a "hating ass hoe". Then Brad misconstrued a comment from Stacey as an attack on him and then declared that he's packed up his Louis Vuitton and jumped in his ride and took off. Baby he's gone.
Also, excited for next Friday and the "special guests".
Bobby A, name your top 5 informed guesses based on current research I know you've been doing.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 09:22)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,816)
by TJ from Norway
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I guess it's a sun stroke. I really, really don't understand anything. But then again, I used to be blonde (before my hair decided to leave me).
Peace.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 02:04)
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New snippet (109,792)
by Shezz from Pk
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She responded to someone on X regarding July being almost over basically saying that being early wasn't her strongest suit. We still have next weekend and that is very much still July.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:51)
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by Bobby A from United States
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MC is so funny. She knows how to get us all excited. We might get three huge announcements today or Friday. The video will seem pointless if she doesn't say something significant today or Friday. July is almost over and TD won't make it back into the Hot 100 now.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 15:27)
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New snippet (109,791)
by Shezz from Pk
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Lol Mimi L I never even thought it could be about that kind of housekeeping. I hope some of the more lyric sensitive board members here can control their eye balls before they roll inside out if that indeed is what the song is about. Trust Mariah to make that sound so beautiful.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:48)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I think she's teasing a new song and lol it's not about cleaning the house. Lol have you heard 34+35 by Ariana singing "I've been drinking coffee, I've been eating healthy, you know I keep it squeaky" lol our girl is probably singing about her private parts like Ariana as well, because when she's chopping the cushion she's also singing "I'mma give it to ya". Or she's about to drop the housewife's banger for the summer and it is about cleaning the house hahah.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 14:41)
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New snippet (109,778)
by Shezz from Pk
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At first I thought oh wow she's teasing a new song/next single. Then it struck me later that it also could be a "mop song" moment that she's making up/freestyling while "cleaning" - "I'mma keep it nice, I'mma keep it neat" could literally just be about cleaning, not necessarily lyrics to the song to launch the album. Confused and curious.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 07:29)
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New snippet (109,775)
by Haiji from United States
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MC just posted an acapella moment of what could possibly be her new song.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 02:26)
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New album (109,717)
by Shezz from Pk
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Bobby A, Edward is 100% right. Even if she released Fantasy right now it really wouldn't do much.
Secondly I think we need to trust their process. They have a plan plus they're probably still working a few things out. I'd rather she finish everything right than announce the album prematurely and then delay it later. Plus she's not going to have a mega pop star roll out.
6 weeks ago we thought she was done, that she'd never release anything again and that there was something gravely wrong with her. A week later she gave us a brand new single and said MC16 is on its way, did numerous radio appearances and BET, performed at Capital FM, released one of her better videos in the last 15 years, rpartaked in a confused chaotic song with Barbra, Walter and Ariana and then just released a remix ep with some pretty good remixes. All in the last 5 weeks after being mostly out of action for 7 years. Cut MC and Gamma some slack. She knows what she's doing. The next single will be out soon and so will the album announcement.
No amount of promotional blitz will make it perform along the level of the current stars but the music will be there for you to enjoy regardless.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:13)
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New album (109,714)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)
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Unpopular opinions (109,671)
by Shezz from Pk
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MC16 will not do well commercially nor will the second single but it will be worth the wait.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 16:15)
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Unpopular opinions (109,669)
by Bobby A from United States
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1. I wanted JD to stay MC's manager longer than he did. 2. MC should have done a complete country soundtrack for the movie Tenneseee. I wanted more songs with Willie Nelson and other country artists. 3. Melt Away should have been a single. A viral moment on Tiktok and vinyl release like It's A Wrap would have been nice in 2024. 4. A No No should have been the lead single for Caution. 5. Cool On You should have made the final tracklist for E=MC2. 6. I love Bryan-Michael Cox's collaborations with MC alone. 4 Real 4 Real and For The Record are their best collaborations. 7. If this summery second single doesn't become a bigger Hot 100 hit, MC16's overall success is going to be very low. I don't know what plan Gamma has for the 2nd single's release, but I am starting to worry now since TD is fading fast in a lot of people's minds.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 15:33)
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I Stay In Love (109,648)
by Shezz from Pk
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Still one of my favorites from E=MC2.
(Monday 7 July 2025; 20:15)
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I Stay In Love (109,644)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ok so I was scrolling TikTok and I randomly happened up a snippet of ISIL and I don't know why that song was so hated, it's actually pretty nice and very classic Mariah. I know it was put in the trash can as a WBT dupe but I think it's a decent song with a great beat. Anyways just my two cents, justice for ISIL.
(Monday 7 July 2025; 00:00)
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Three voices, one problem (109,526)
by Shezz from Pk
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That's exactly how it went according to Barbra in a recent interview. They all recorded their parts separately and then it was put together. How does that even work I sometimes try to imagine. All 3 sing all of it then their parts are picked or they just sing their assigned parts? Sounds like there's no room for any synergy of energies there.
I don't fault Mariah here at all. She did not write the lyrics, the melody, nothing. Did the best she could with her voice. I don't think this is any indication of MC16 whatsoever.
Not a bad song but it could have soared. Mariah should have been in charge of writing and producing it but I suppose with Walter in charge that was not really an option.
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Three voices, one problem (109,513)
by Lee from UK
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Considering this song is highly reminiscent of 90s adult contemporary music, I was expecting more. There was definitely room here for "All I Ever Wanted" style vocals from all of them. Mariah held back to her own detriment. It feels like these three were never in the same studio. It's like they all recorded their individual parts from their home studios and then emailed them to Walter A to sew together. If these three could have gotten together and arranged their vocals with each other, this could have become something special. It just feels very bland unfortunately.
(Saturday 28 June 2025; 09:25)
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Barbra's song (109,485)
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Mariah sounds great with them. The production sounds a bit dated though. Is it just me or is there less of Mariah than the other two?
Clearly not a Mariah song but a pleasant surprise. She did her thing with the song she was given, wish we had more of her. Specially on the chorus. Makes me hopeful for the ballads on MC16.
In a weird way it made me appreciate TD more.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 06:36)
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Barbra's song (109,483)
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It's so wholesome. It sounds like it's right off the Aladdin soundtrack.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 02:11)
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35 years in the game (109,444)
by Shezz from Pk
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I don't think that was recent. It was a few years ago when Mariah was given the Icon Award by Billboard.
(Monday 23 June 2025; 17:22)
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35 years in the game (109,443)
by Tevin from USA
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Do you have a link to that interview?
(Monday 23 June 2025; 15:42)
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Release (109,392)
by Shezz from Pk
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So apparently Barbra has now released 3 singles from the album already. First with Hozier, second with Paul McCartney and third with Laufey. I suppose the Mariah and Ariana song (since you technically cant call it a duet) is the most anticipated and they didn’t want to release it before the album. I wonder if it will actually get the single treatment. Just 10 more days until we get to hear it.
(Tuesday 17 June 2025; 04:43)
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Release (109,375)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Don't Mariah, Ariadne [sic], Barbara [sic] got something coming out the 27th of June just checking. Plus I wanted to say I think that Mariah's new video is one of her best videos in a long time.
(Monday 16 June 2025; 15:41)
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Music video (109,336)
by Shezz from Pk
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Fun video but I expected a little more. Too short for a storyline to develop. And all that hype and delay made it worse. TOTC has changed its original chart prediction to #94. I'm happy she's charting at least after no Caution singles charted.
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Music video (109,323)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So I watched it twice. My thoughts and 2 cents. - The video seems to be a mix between ILT, Boy and Slave For You. - I think Mariah looked absolutely stunning in every shot, my favourite being her "Britney" look with the black smokey eyes and the Mr. Beast scene where she looked like she's straight out of TEOM era. I love the risks she took with her looks including the red lip. She looked stunning in the silver bedazzled look to but that's her usual look. - I thought JK said the video was longer than we think? But it wasn't. Or did he mean that we'll keep pausing on the boys haha. - First high budget video after a while but I think it lacked a strong storyline or I missed it. I like the different "acts" being different men but I wish there was some context and dialogues like Honey/Heartbreaker. The CGI was a bit too much for me especially the diamond one in the first act lol. I was hoping for something more like "Boy is mine" video from Ariana. - I heard there are more cameos other than Mr Beast. Which is smart to introduce her to new audience. I hope their contracts have requirements for them to post over the next few days. I'm dead at the "I don't know him". - Why were the all laying on the floor in pain? - Why was she so stiff in the first act? I get being nervous on stage but she literally had full control here.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 00:49)
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One more observation (109,335)
by Shezz from Pk
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1. Because she wants chart success and they control the charts, not us.
2. I think she also likes to remain "current" and "contemporary". Doesn't always translate well though with the audience. If any of the younger artists released TD it'd shoot straight to the top.
3. Part of her whole "eternally 12" shtick.
I still can't believe she's done a grown ass ballad with Barbra. So intrigued to hear how she sounds there with her current voice. That even next to Barbra and Ariana.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 04:57)
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One more observation (109,327)
by Bobby A from United States
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With such an illustrious career, why is MC devoting so much of her time after 30 years in the music business to remain relevant among young people today?
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 02:55)
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by Shezz from Pk
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JK probably needed more time to edit it properly. He mentioned time was really tight. I guess Friday night booty calls are back on now.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 17:16)
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by Haiji from United States
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Mimi just announced the video is dropping tomorrow. I wonder why it was pushed back?
(Friday 13 June 2025; 16:37)
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by Shezz from Pk
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CDC? I wonder when the video is coming out. Not midnight (US) like the song, probably later in the day. Maybe that's why Joseph Kahn said to free up our Friday night - Saturday morning for some of us.
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Ya hope they learned from the past eras what worked and what didn't. I really hope some TikTokers turn T-Dang viral. I see Sabrina's song Manchild dances and Manchild sing alongs to the "stupid, slow, useless" lines all over. Also Sabrina is clearly had a deal with Spotify because every time I finish playing T-Dang, Sabrina's new song comes up on autoplay. I wish Mariah would cut a deal and do the same. Play the game.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 02:22)
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Next single (109,244)
by Shezz from Pk
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True. A ballad only works now if it is a home run ala We Belong Together. Even Adele can't get any of her ballads to chart high other than her lead singles.
I've read the duet is pop/RnB and "explosive" (of course all unconfirmed) but not sure it's a ballad. I think duets are typically ballads yes but not always. Might not be a ballad.
Plus she has a ballad with Barbra and Ariana coming in 2 weeks anyway.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 18:00)
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Next single (109,243)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I know it's premature to talk about this but I have been hearing rumours that the next single is going to be a ballad type duet with Anderson .Paak. There are a few reasons I don't think that's a good idea.
- It's the TEOM cloning all over again which tanked E=MC2 and her future releases for trying to do the same format. I think her next single should still be another uptempo song. A fresh new sound like T-Dang. It's summer so let it be fun and something people can enjoy and feel uplifted. Some catchy lyrics, a strong chorus (Sabrina Carpenter dominated summer with her clever lyrics and choruses, the "I'm working late cos I'm a singer" or the catchy chorus of Espresso, or the digs in "Taste" and "Please Please Please" to name a few). So I think her next single should be uptempo and catchy. The general public is seemingly responding well to T-Dang not just lambs which is new and we need the GP to get success.
- I honestly think if she is releasing any collaborations as singles it should be high impact and high profile collaborators that can benefit her on the charts if she really wants those #1's stacking up. Also she is possibly in a relation with him and I think it'll be sweeter to keep it as an album track than an official single.
Those are my thoughts and 2 cents.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 16:24)
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Change your type (109,237)
by Shezz from Pk
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She's basically saying she has a type and that's not going to change. Also I don't think she's taking it that seriously or literally.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 10:24)
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Change your type (109,235)
by Bill from the UK
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What I don't get about the song is that she's seemingly bashing all her ex husbands and boyfriends and relenting about how awful they were, to then go on and say she's looking for somebody who's exactly that type? So she's just accepted a life a doomed romances from this point on then? Maybe go for a different type of guy if the last 20 haven't worked out. But who am I.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 08:22)
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