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Andrew (110,099)
by Shezz from Pk
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Agreed Mimi L. His ridiculous outbursts at you are my last memories of him. Whoever still has a soft spot or sympathy for him should maintain a direct private relationship with him.
Bobby A. is downplaying how rude he was to him. And then of course the daily nonstop venom spewed at Mariah.
There are plenty of people here who don't like her current music or style or what have you but they always express it with respect and love still for her.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 19:09)
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Andrew (110,089)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I for one am glad he's gone and hope he stays gone. I think everyone on this board forgot why he was banned. I can appreciate people having different takes and different opinions about MC but Andrew's opinions weren't just about Mariah. His very last stunt was being extremely violent towards me and a few others on this board. He resorted to name calling, personally attacking and just making outrageous posts that had no business here. All because he didn't agree with my views. I get some people who know him say that he was going though personal stuff but no amount of stuff going on in your personal life justifies viciously attacking someone on a freaking messageboard. Not only was he a bully, he also never considered that the person he's throwing insults at may have personal things going on themselves but didn't resort to his level of insult hurling. His language had gotten so bad when responding to me the webmaster had to stop posting them. Not only included abusive language he would also constantly demean people for their English, myself included when English isn't our first language. He was petty, a bully and downright abusive and this wasn't the first time he did that to me at least and wouldn't have been the last if he wasn't stopped.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:11)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,041)
by Shezz from Pk
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It was the twins out leopard print dress. Then the styling just took it over the edge. A misstep after some pretty good looks the last couple of months.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 13:12)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,035)
by Jamie from UK
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I didn't feel Mariah was looking her best on Jimmy Kimmel, she looked a bit cheap and not glamorous. Just my opinion. I've seen her looking better. I think it was the hair and earrings made her look a bit street.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 11:50)
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Sugar Sweet (110,023)
by Shezz from Pk
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Ok, an instant ear worm. I love the beat and love how all 3 of them blend seamlessly on the song. No one feels like a cut and paste after thought. This is how you arrange a trio - Walter take notes. Doesn't seem short at all. I think it'll do better with the streamers and the TikTokers than TD did. Feels more like a Mariah song than TD did (no hate for TD, I do really like it). Another interpolation (ILT) that fit well. Has potential to do way better than TD. I love Mariah's chest voice specially on "I hope that you don't mind, I'm gonna take my time". That's the sweet spot of the song.
If I had to nitpick, I know Mariah loves to add all her textures but her head voice isn't as smooth anymore. And the fan art cover. Actually fan art has become brilliantly better with AI.
Will be interesting to see how it does - JLo has dropped her Birthday song as well. I know we all need to not focus on chart success anymore but the truth of the matter is that unless she and the label see decent numbers, there really won't be much more music from her.
Also, Bobby A. I may be wrong but I feel like Here For It All might be an introspective ballad with Daniel Moore.
Happy Sugar Sweet weekend guys. No more reprimanding please.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 07:12)
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Here For It All (109,905)
by Shezz from Pk
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Stacey I wouldn't call you a "Tommy Era only" fan. Key word being "only". You show love for her all the time and you never partake in any bashing. You're a wonderful person and wow you have a 17 year old. I too fell in love with her during the Tommy era and I will never deny those were her best years, but I still look forward to what she releases now. It is what it is. Here for it all. Pun intended.
I love the album title and the cover art, although it feels more like a photograph you'd generally find in the album liners than on the cover. It's very reminiscent of a magazine shoot she did a few years ago, I think for W.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 03:42)
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Here For It All (109,899)
by Stacey from USA
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I love the title. It speaks to her amazing career and all those events (good and bad) that have shaped who she is today. Did you guys know Here For It All has the same release date as Daydream? That can't be a coincidence, right? 9/26 is also my daughter's 17th birthday. So of course in her honor I'll be buying Mariah's new album, lol. Amazon has exclusive cover art releasing on July 23rd. As a Tommy era fan, I'm not stressing about anything. I always hope for the best.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 01:56)
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The new finished snippet (109,869)
by Shezz from Pk
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As Mimi L. explained it to us, the lyrics are basically Honey 2.0 but from her perspective. Hopefully they've been kept open enough for people to derive whatever meaning they want to. I can't wait for the announcement today. I wonder if we're getting a tracklisting as well or just the cover art and title (and hopefully the date). And then Friday the new single. Exciting times for most of us. Stressful times for the Tommy era only fans. Will she tarnish their image of her they've clung to even more? I hope there's something in MC16 for everybody
(Monday 21 July 2025; 12:29)
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The new finished snippet (109,865)
by Haiji from United States
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Great ear, Terna. No wonder I instantly thought Sensational by CB vibes lol. I hope it is similar though, I love that song. I'm praying her lyrics in this song are sweet and fun and not her being petty about a guy and dissing him. I guess the lyrics could go either way, "Ima keep it nice, Ima keep it neat, Ima keep it suga, Ima keep it sweet", could also mean "don't mess with me and everything gon be cool" lol or am I reaching?
(Monday 21 July 2025; 02:34)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,820)
by Shezz from Pk
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Haha I think I have this right let me try Brad criticized TD and Mariah's choices (as is his right, this is a Mariah discussion forum) I'm paraphrasing but I think he said it's not age appropriate and not quality work. Then another member (I think Victoria - not sure so sorry if I'm wrong) responded by saying it's not his place to decide how women (Mariah included) should behave at what age (as is her right). She went on to say that a lot of people here love to bash M and mock her (which is not too far from the truth but I suppose it is their right) and then I think she implied he was a "hating ass hoe". Then Brad misconstrued a comment from Stacey as an attack on him and then declared that he's packed up his Louis Vuitton and jumped in his ride and took off. Baby he's gone.
Also, excited for next Friday and the "special guests".
Bobby A, name your top 5 informed guesses based on current research I know you've been doing.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 09:22)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,816)
by TJ from Norway
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I guess it's a sun stroke. I really, really don't understand anything. But then again, I used to be blonde (before my hair decided to leave me).
Peace.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 02:04)
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New snippet (109,792)
by Shezz from Pk
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She responded to someone on X regarding July being almost over basically saying that being early wasn't her strongest suit. We still have next weekend and that is very much still July.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:51)
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New snippet (109,789)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC is so funny. She knows how to get us all excited. We might get three huge announcements today or Friday. The video will seem pointless if she doesn't say something significant today or Friday. July is almost over and TD won't make it back into the Hot 100 now.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 15:27)
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New snippet (109,791)
by Shezz from Pk
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Lol Mimi L I never even thought it could be about that kind of housekeeping. I hope some of the more lyric sensitive board members here can control their eye balls before they roll inside out if that indeed is what the song is about. Trust Mariah to make that sound so beautiful.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:48)
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New snippet (109,787)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I think she's teasing a new song and lol it's not about cleaning the house. Lol have you heard 34+35 by Ariana singing "I've been drinking coffee, I've been eating healthy, you know I keep it squeaky" lol our girl is probably singing about her private parts like Ariana as well, because when she's chopping the cushion she's also singing "I'mma give it to ya". Or she's about to drop the housewife's banger for the summer and it is about cleaning the house hahah.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 14:41)
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New snippet (109,778)
by Shezz from Pk
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At first I thought oh wow she's teasing a new song/next single. Then it struck me later that it also could be a "mop song" moment that she's making up/freestyling while "cleaning" - "I'mma keep it nice, I'mma keep it neat" could literally just be about cleaning, not necessarily lyrics to the song to launch the album. Confused and curious.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 07:29)
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New snippet (109,775)
by Haiji from United States
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MC just posted an acapella moment of what could possibly be her new song.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 02:26)
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New album (109,717)
by Shezz from Pk
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Bobby A, Edward is 100% right. Even if she released Fantasy right now it really wouldn't do much.
Secondly I think we need to trust their process. They have a plan plus they're probably still working a few things out. I'd rather she finish everything right than announce the album prematurely and then delay it later. Plus she's not going to have a mega pop star roll out.
6 weeks ago we thought she was done, that she'd never release anything again and that there was something gravely wrong with her. A week later she gave us a brand new single and said MC16 is on its way, did numerous radio appearances and BET, performed at Capital FM, released one of her better videos in the last 15 years, rpartaked in a confused chaotic song with Barbra, Walter and Ariana and then just released a remix ep with some pretty good remixes. All in the last 5 weeks after being mostly out of action for 7 years. Cut MC and Gamma some slack. She knows what she's doing. The next single will be out soon and so will the album announcement.
No amount of promotional blitz will make it perform along the level of the current stars but the music will be there for you to enjoy regardless.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:13)
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New album (109,714)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am trying to understand, but I just feel like something is off this month with the rollout of the album. I don't like this waiting game. Maybe a joint tour announcement with unlikely male pop artist would generate more buzz for MC16 and increase MC's streams.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 16:31)
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Unpopular opinions (109,671)
by Shezz from Pk
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MC16 will not do well commercially nor will the second single but it will be worth the wait.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 16:15)
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Unpopular opinions (109,669)
by Bobby A from United States
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1. I wanted JD to stay MC's manager longer than he did. 2. MC should have done a complete country soundtrack for the movie Tenneseee. I wanted more songs with Willie Nelson and other country artists. 3. Melt Away should have been a single. A viral moment on Tiktok and vinyl release like It's A Wrap would have been nice in 2024. 4. A No No should have been the lead single for Caution. 5. Cool On You should have made the final tracklist for E=MC2. 6. I love Bryan-Michael Cox's collaborations with MC alone. 4 Real 4 Real and For The Record are their best collaborations. 7. If this summery second single doesn't become a bigger Hot 100 hit, MC16's overall success is going to be very low. I don't know what plan Gamma has for the 2nd single's release, but I am starting to worry now since TD is fading fast in a lot of people's minds.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 15:33)
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I Stay In Love (109,648)
by Shezz from Pk
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Still one of my favorites from E=MC2.
(Monday 7 July 2025; 20:15)
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I Stay In Love (109,644)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ok so I was scrolling TikTok and I randomly happened up a snippet of ISIL and I don't know why that song was so hated, it's actually pretty nice and very classic Mariah. I know it was put in the trash can as a WBT dupe but I think it's a decent song with a great beat. Anyways just my two cents, justice for ISIL.
(Monday 7 July 2025; 00:00)
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Three voices, one problem (109,526)
by Shezz from Pk
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That's exactly how it went according to Barbra in a recent interview. They all recorded their parts separately and then it was put together. How does that even work I sometimes try to imagine. All 3 sing all of it then their parts are picked or they just sing their assigned parts? Sounds like there's no room for any synergy of energies there.
I don't fault Mariah here at all. She did not write the lyrics, the melody, nothing. Did the best she could with her voice. I don't think this is any indication of MC16 whatsoever.
Not a bad song but it could have soared. Mariah should have been in charge of writing and producing it but I suppose with Walter in charge that was not really an option.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 14:20)
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Three voices, one problem (109,513)
by Lee from UK
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Considering this song is highly reminiscent of 90s adult contemporary music, I was expecting more. There was definitely room here for "All I Ever Wanted" style vocals from all of them. Mariah held back to her own detriment. It feels like these three were never in the same studio. It's like they all recorded their individual parts from their home studios and then emailed them to Walter A to sew together. If these three could have gotten together and arranged their vocals with each other, this could have become something special. It just feels very bland unfortunately.
(Saturday 28 June 2025; 09:25)
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Barbra's song (109,485)
by Shezz from Pk
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Mariah sounds great with them. The production sounds a bit dated though. Is it just me or is there less of Mariah than the other two?
Clearly not a Mariah song but a pleasant surprise. She did her thing with the song she was given, wish we had more of her. Specially on the chorus. Makes me hopeful for the ballads on MC16.
In a weird way it made me appreciate TD more.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 06:36)
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Barbra's song (109,483)
by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
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It's so wholesome. It sounds like it's right off the Aladdin soundtrack.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 02:11)
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35 years in the game (109,444)
by Shezz from Pk
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I don't think that was recent. It was a few years ago when Mariah was given the Icon Award by Billboard.
(Monday 23 June 2025; 17:22)
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35 years in the game (109,443)
by Tevin from USA
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Do you have a link to that interview?
(Monday 23 June 2025; 15:42)
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Release (109,392)
by Shezz from Pk
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So apparently Barbra has now released 3 singles from the album already. First with Hozier, second with Paul McCartney and third with Laufey. I suppose the Mariah and Ariana song (since you technically cant call it a duet) is the most anticipated and they didn’t want to release it before the album. I wonder if it will actually get the single treatment. Just 10 more days until we get to hear it.
(Tuesday 17 June 2025; 04:43)
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Release (109,375)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Don't Mariah, Ariadne [sic], Barbara [sic] got something coming out the 27th of June just checking. Plus I wanted to say I think that Mariah's new video is one of her best videos in a long time.
(Monday 16 June 2025; 15:41)
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Music video (109,336)
by Shezz from Pk
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Fun video but I expected a little more. Too short for a storyline to develop. And all that hype and delay made it worse. TOTC has changed its original chart prediction to #94. I'm happy she's charting at least after no Caution singles charted.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 05:02)
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Music video (109,323)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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So I watched it twice. My thoughts and 2 cents. - The video seems to be a mix between ILT, Boy and Slave For You. - I think Mariah looked absolutely stunning in every shot, my favourite being her "Britney" look with the black smokey eyes and the Mr. Beast scene where she looked like she's straight out of TEOM era. I love the risks she took with her looks including the red lip. She looked stunning in the silver bedazzled look to but that's her usual look. - I thought JK said the video was longer than we think? But it wasn't. Or did he mean that we'll keep pausing on the boys haha. - First high budget video after a while but I think it lacked a strong storyline or I missed it. I like the different "acts" being different men but I wish there was some context and dialogues like Honey/Heartbreaker. The CGI was a bit too much for me especially the diamond one in the first act lol. I was hoping for something more like "Boy is mine" video from Ariana. - I heard there are more cameos other than Mr Beast. Which is smart to introduce her to new audience. I hope their contracts have requirements for them to post over the next few days. I'm dead at the "I don't know him". - Why were the all laying on the floor in pain? - Why was she so stiff in the first act? I get being nervous on stage but she literally had full control here.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 00:49)
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One more observation (109,335)
by Shezz from Pk
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1. Because she wants chart success and they control the charts, not us.
2. I think she also likes to remain "current" and "contemporary". Doesn't always translate well though with the audience. If any of the younger artists released TD it'd shoot straight to the top.
3. Part of her whole "eternally 12" shtick.
I still can't believe she's done a grown ass ballad with Barbra. So intrigued to hear how she sounds there with her current voice. That even next to Barbra and Ariana.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 04:57)
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One more observation (109,327)
by Bobby A from United States
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With such an illustrious career, why is MC devoting so much of her time after 30 years in the music business to remain relevant among young people today?
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 02:55)
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by Shezz from Pk
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JK probably needed more time to edit it properly. He mentioned time was really tight. I guess Friday night booty calls are back on now.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 17:16)
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New video (109,269)
by Haiji from United States
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Mimi just announced the video is dropping tomorrow. I wonder why it was pushed back?
(Friday 13 June 2025; 16:37)
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by Shezz from Pk
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CDC? I wonder when the video is coming out. Not midnight (US) like the song, probably later in the day. Maybe that's why Joseph Kahn said to free up our Friday night - Saturday morning for some of us.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 06:37)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ya hope they learned from the past eras what worked and what didn't. I really hope some TikTokers turn T-Dang viral. I see Sabrina's song Manchild dances and Manchild sing alongs to the "stupid, slow, useless" lines all over. Also Sabrina is clearly had a deal with Spotify because every time I finish playing T-Dang, Sabrina's new song comes up on autoplay. I wish Mariah would cut a deal and do the same. Play the game.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 02:22)
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Next single (109,244)
by Shezz from Pk
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True. A ballad only works now if it is a home run ala We Belong Together. Even Adele can't get any of her ballads to chart high other than her lead singles.
I've read the duet is pop/RnB and "explosive" (of course all unconfirmed) but not sure it's a ballad. I think duets are typically ballads yes but not always. Might not be a ballad.
Plus she has a ballad with Barbra and Ariana coming in 2 weeks anyway.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 18:00)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I know it's premature to talk about this but I have been hearing rumours that the next single is going to be a ballad type duet with Anderson .Paak. There are a few reasons I don't think that's a good idea.
- It's the TEOM cloning all over again which tanked E=MC2 and her future releases for trying to do the same format. I think her next single should still be another uptempo song. A fresh new sound like T-Dang. It's summer so let it be fun and something people can enjoy and feel uplifted. Some catchy lyrics, a strong chorus (Sabrina Carpenter dominated summer with her clever lyrics and choruses, the "I'm working late cos I'm a singer" or the catchy chorus of Espresso, or the digs in "Taste" and "Please Please Please" to name a few). So I think her next single should be uptempo and catchy. The general public is seemingly responding well to T-Dang not just lambs which is new and we need the GP to get success.
- I honestly think if she is releasing any collaborations as singles it should be high impact and high profile collaborators that can benefit her on the charts if she really wants those #1's stacking up. Also she is possibly in a relation with him and I think it'll be sweeter to keep it as an album track than an official single.
Those are my thoughts and 2 cents.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 16:24)
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Change your type (109,237)
by Shezz from Pk
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She's basically saying she has a type and that's not going to change. Also I don't think she's taking it that seriously or literally.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 10:24)
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Change your type (109,235)
by Bill from the UK
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What I don't get about the song is that she's seemingly bashing all her ex husbands and boyfriends and relenting about how awful they were, to then go on and say she's looking for somebody who's exactly that type? So she's just accepted a life a doomed romances from this point on then? Maybe go for a different type of guy if the last 20 haven't worked out. But who am I.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 08:22)
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For the nostalgia (109,211)
by Shezz from Pk
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So MC is clearly taking the [nostalgic] route here for promotion. Doubling the new era with the [Mimi] era, radio promos, It's Like That and Breakdown video references and now the Rakim rap feature on the BET performance (which was a huge step above what we've seen in the recent past). Does that mean he's on the actual remix as well? It made sense and she loves her old school rappers but I don't think a Rakim remix will be as commercially effective as one with a contemporary rapper. Still hoping for Doechii or Cardi but I know that's highly improbable. But I loved her appearances tonight and I can't wait for the video.
(Tuesday 10 June 2025; 12:25)
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Type immature (109,193)
by Shezz from Pk
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I really really do hope she has some of those songs left in her and that they are in the album. I get her wanting to be current and wanting to go the more commercial route with her first single but I think if she wants another classic hit, she has to go for deeper songs. We Belong Together is a good example of how she blended both these sides and look how people responded to it. Whereas I do really like the song, I too yearn for more mature lyrics. Apparently the remix is on its way. I hope it's a strong feature and female.
A little nervous about how this song will sound live at the BET Awards. Id rather she do a high energy believable lip sync than a sub par live effort that'll serve as its introduction to the masses.
(Monday 9 June 2025; 05:23)
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I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard the brand name dropping is actually sponsored. Not just on this song, but others she has recorded too. And not just Mariah, apparently several artists engage in this. I can see it being true, or else she's just bragging about her financial status. Either way, I wouldn't categorise it as a "strong pen game" song like I would Outside, Butterfly, Languishing, Petals, Close My Eyes etc.
(Sunday 8 June 2025; 19:31)
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I hope she's performing TD at BET and no Mimi medley though I would not mind an It's Like That to TD transition like the MC16 teaser clip.
As for the different guys in the song - either they should all be fictional or all past relationships. Would be weird for her to talk about someone from her old music video (motor cycle guy) but then computer boy toy also sounds like the TMB guy. Some say that's Nick though the forever guy sounds more like him or that could be Tanaka as well.
I also thought Tommy references now are a bit old and tired but maybe she did it because it made the verse more interesting and dramatic.
I wonder what her insta pic with the guys is about... bet maybe?
I think her MV video will definitely have a bunch of these guys in the video. She hinted at that in one of her interviews. They asked her about the guys and she said "you'll have to watch the video".
I wonder if they have a remix lined up already or are they waiting to see how it performs.
I'd be over the moon if the song just charts. What was her last single to chart? I don't think any of the Caution singles charted. Nor did I Don't and Infinity.
Was #Beauituful her last new song to chart? None of the remixes charted. She does not have the fan base for her songs to have a decent debut, at best it could work its way into top 40. Which would be big for her. TD is good but it's no Believe. Her best shot at the charts is a pop song with mass appeal.
(Sunday 8 June 2025; 05:22)
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Do we know if Mariah is scheduled to be on any tv appearances and what her promo schedule looks like? I know she'll be at the BETs but any other appearance? It looks like radio is playing a quite a bit, is this something we've seen with her last few releases or is this new? For music video, what do you guys think will be her vision. Excited for her working with Joseph so I hope there's some story line. I wonder if she'll do a parody of her previous relationships or her previous music video leads because the lyrics hint at both or I might be overthinking it. 1) The one about sing sing and evil king is of course Tommy. 2) The motorcycle man had a Yen for me. Is this a hint at Tanaka who's part Japanese and had a thing for motorcycles or is it her male lead in Sweetheart or even Miguel in #B. 3) The computer nerd has to be TMB unless I'm missing something haha. 4) The man in construction moving pounds through customs. Is it James Packer or Wentworth Miller (WBT/Prison Break because his character was a structural engineer in think in PB). Some people say the moving pounds through customs could be Tanaka too because apparently he was detained in Brazil. I haven't heard about this before though 5) "Said we'd be together, but you didn't stay forever. Now I guess it's just whatever 'til the twelfth of never." This is probably Nick because Mariah was super in love and thought it's forever and "twelfth of never" probably because he has 12 kids
So I wonder if she'll do a parody like that which would be hilarious. Or if it'll be more touching and looking at the camera hahah just joking.
(Saturday 7 June 2025; 18:34)
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