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Andrew (110,099) by Shezz from Pk
Agreed Mimi L. His ridiculous outbursts at you are my last memories of him. Whoever still has a soft spot or sympathy for him should maintain a direct private relationship with him.

Bobby A. is downplaying how rude he was to him. And then of course the daily nonstop venom spewed at Mariah.

There are plenty of people here who don't like her current music or style or what have you but they always express it with respect and love still for her.
(Saturday 26 July 2025; 19:09)
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Jimmy Kimmel (110,041) by Shezz from Pk
It was the twins out leopard print dress. Then the styling just took it over the edge. A misstep after some pretty good looks the last couple of months.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 13:12)
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Sugar Sweet (110,023) by Shezz from Pk
Ok, an instant ear worm. I love the beat and love how all 3 of them blend seamlessly on the song. No one feels like a cut and paste after thought. This is how you arrange a trio - Walter take notes.
Doesn't seem short at all. I think it'll do better with the streamers and the TikTokers than TD did. Feels more like a Mariah song than TD did (no hate for TD, I do really like it). Another interpolation (ILT) that fit well. Has potential to do way better than TD. I love Mariah's chest voice specially on "I hope that you don't mind, I'm gonna take my time". That's the sweet spot of the song.

If I had to nitpick, I know Mariah loves to add all her textures but her head voice isn't as smooth anymore. And the fan art cover.
Actually fan art has become brilliantly better with AI.

Will be interesting to see how it does - JLo has dropped her Birthday song as well. I know we all need to not focus on chart success anymore but the truth of the matter is that unless she and the label see decent numbers, there really won't be much more music from her.

Also, Bobby A. I may be wrong but I feel like Here For It All might be an introspective ballad with Daniel Moore.

Happy Sugar Sweet weekend guys. No more reprimanding please.
(Friday 25 July 2025; 07:12)
Here For It All (109,905) by Shezz from Pk
Stacey I wouldn't call you a "Tommy Era only" fan. Key word being "only". You show love for her all the time and you never partake in any bashing. You're a wonderful person and wow you have a 17 year old. I too fell in love with her during the Tommy era and I will never deny those were her best years, but I still look forward to what she releases now. It is what it is. Here for it all. Pun intended.

I love the album title and the cover art, although it feels more like a photograph you'd generally find in the album liners than on the cover. It's very reminiscent of a magazine shoot she did a few years ago, I think for W.
(Tuesday 22 July 2025; 03:42)
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The new finished snippet (109,869) by Shezz from Pk
As Mimi L. explained it to us, the lyrics are basically Honey 2.0 but from her perspective. Hopefully they've been kept open enough for people to derive whatever meaning they want to. I can't wait for the announcement today. I wonder if we're getting a tracklisting as well or just the cover art and title (and hopefully the date). And then Friday the new single. Exciting times for most of us. Stressful times for the Tommy era only fans. Will she tarnish their image of her they've clung to even more? I hope there's something in MC16 for everybody
(Monday 21 July 2025; 12:29)
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The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,820) by Shezz from Pk
Haha I think I have this right let me try Brad criticized TD and Mariah's choices (as is his right, this is a Mariah discussion forum) I'm paraphrasing but I think he said it's not age appropriate and not quality work. Then another member (I think Victoria - not sure so sorry if I'm wrong) responded by saying it's not his place to decide how women (Mariah included) should behave at what age (as is her right). She went on to say that a lot of people here love to bash M and mock her (which is not too far from the truth but I suppose it is their right) and then I think she implied he was a "hating ass hoe". Then Brad misconstrued a comment from Stacey as an attack on him and then declared that he's packed up his Louis Vuitton and jumped in his ride and took off. Baby he's gone.

Also, excited for next Friday and the "special guests".

Bobby A, name your top 5 informed guesses based on current research I know you've been doing.
(Saturday 19 July 2025; 09:22)
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New snippet (109,792) by Shezz from Pk
She responded to someone on X regarding July being almost over basically saying that being early wasn't her strongest suit. We still have next weekend and that is very much still July.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:51)
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New snippet (109,791) by Shezz from Pk
Lol Mimi L I never even thought it could be about that kind of housekeeping. I hope some of the more lyric sensitive board members here can control their eye balls before they roll inside out if that indeed is what the song is about. Trust Mariah to make that sound so beautiful.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 17:48)
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New snippet (109,778) by Shezz from Pk
At first I thought oh wow she's teasing a new song/next single. Then it struck me later that it also could be a "mop song" moment that she's making up/freestyling while "cleaning" - "I'mma keep it nice, I'mma keep it neat" could literally just be about cleaning, not necessarily lyrics to the song to launch the album. Confused and curious.
(Thursday 17 July 2025; 07:29)
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New album (109,717) by Shezz from Pk
Bobby A, Edward is 100% right. Even if she released Fantasy right now it really wouldn't do much.

Secondly I think we need to trust their process. They have a plan plus they're probably still working a few things out. I'd rather she finish everything right than announce the album prematurely and then delay it later. Plus she's not going to have a mega pop star roll out.

6 weeks ago we thought she was done, that she'd never release anything again and that there was something gravely wrong with her. A week later she gave us a brand new single and said MC16 is on its way, did numerous radio appearances and BET, performed at Capital FM, released one of her better videos in the last 15 years, rpartaked in a confused chaotic song with Barbra, Walter and Ariana and then just released a remix ep with some pretty good remixes. All in the last 5 weeks after being mostly out of action for 7 years. Cut MC and Gamma some slack. She knows what she's doing. The next single will be out soon and so will the album announcement.

No amount of promotional blitz will make it perform along the level of the current stars but the music will be there for you to enjoy regardless.
(Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:13)
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Unpopular opinions (109,671) by Shezz from Pk
MC16 will not do well commercially nor will the second single but it will be worth the wait.
(Thursday 10 July 2025; 16:15)
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I Stay In Love (109,648) by Shezz from Pk
Still one of my favorites from E=MC2.
(Monday 7 July 2025; 20:15)
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Three voices, one problem (109,526) by Shezz from Pk
That's exactly how it went according to Barbra in a recent interview. They all recorded their parts separately and then it was put together. How does that even work I sometimes try to imagine. All 3 sing all of it then their parts are picked or they just sing their assigned parts? Sounds like there's no room for any synergy of energies there.

I don't fault Mariah here at all. She did not write the lyrics, the melody, nothing. Did the best she could with her voice. I don't think this is any indication of MC16 whatsoever.

Not a bad song but it could have soared. Mariah should have been in charge of writing and producing it but I suppose with Walter in charge that was not really an option.
(Sunday 29 June 2025; 14:20)
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Barbra's song (109,485) by Shezz from Pk
Mariah sounds great with them. The production sounds a bit dated though. Is it just me or is there less of Mariah than the other two?

Clearly not a Mariah song but a pleasant surprise. She did her thing with the song she was given, wish we had more of her. Specially on the chorus. Makes me hopeful for the ballads on MC16.

In a weird way it made me appreciate TD more.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 06:36)
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35 years in the game (109,444) by Shezz from Pk
I don't think that was recent. It was a few years ago when Mariah was given the Icon Award by Billboard.
(Monday 23 June 2025; 17:22)
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Release (109,392) by Shezz from Pk
So apparently Barbra has now released 3 singles from the album already. First with Hozier, second with Paul McCartney and third with Laufey. I suppose the Mariah and Ariana song (since you technically cant call it a duet) is the most anticipated and they didn’t want to release it before the album. I wonder if it will actually get the single treatment. Just 10 more days until we get to hear it.
(Tuesday 17 June 2025; 04:43)
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Music video (109,336) by Shezz from Pk
Fun video but I expected a little more. Too short for a storyline to develop. And all that hype and delay made it worse. TOTC has changed its original chart prediction to #94. I'm happy she's charting at least after no Caution singles charted.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 05:02)
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One more observation (109,335) by Shezz from Pk
1. Because she wants chart success and they control the charts, not us.

2. I think she also likes to remain "current" and "contemporary". Doesn't always translate well though with the audience. If any of the younger artists released TD it'd shoot straight to the top.

3. Part of her whole "eternally 12" shtick.

I still can't believe she's done a grown ass ballad with Barbra. So intrigued to hear how she sounds there with her current voice. That even next to Barbra and Ariana.
(Sunday 15 June 2025; 04:57)
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New video (109,272) by Shezz from Pk
JK probably needed more time to edit it properly. He mentioned time was really tight. I guess Friday night booty calls are back on now.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 17:16)
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Next single (109,258) by Shezz from Pk
CDC? I wonder when the video is coming out. Not midnight (US) like the song, probably later in the day. Maybe that's why Joseph Kahn said to free up our Friday night - Saturday morning for some of us.
(Friday 13 June 2025; 06:37)
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Next single (109,244) by Shezz from Pk
True. A ballad only works now if it is a home run ala We Belong Together. Even Adele can't get any of her ballads to chart high other than her lead singles.

I've read the duet is pop/RnB and "explosive" (of course all unconfirmed) but not sure it's a ballad. I think duets are typically ballads yes but not always. Might not be a ballad.

Plus she has a ballad with Barbra and Ariana coming in 2 weeks anyway.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 18:00)
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Change your type (109,237) by Shezz from Pk
She's basically saying she has a type and that's not going to change. Also I don't think she's taking it that seriously or literally.
(Thursday 12 June 2025; 10:24)
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For the nostalgia (109,211) by Shezz from Pk
So MC is clearly taking the [nostalgic] route here for promotion. Doubling the new era with the [Mimi] era, radio promos, It's Like That and Breakdown video references and now the Rakim rap feature on the BET performance (which was a huge step above what we've seen in the recent past). Does that mean he's on the actual remix as well? It made sense and she loves her old school rappers but I don't think a Rakim remix will be as commercially effective as one with a contemporary rapper. Still hoping for Doechii or Cardi but I know that's highly improbable. But I loved her appearances tonight and I can't wait for the video.
(Tuesday 10 June 2025; 12:25)
Type immature (109,193) by Shezz from Pk
I really really do hope she has some of those songs left in her and that they are in the album. I get her wanting to be current and wanting to go the more commercial route with her first single but I think if she wants another classic hit, she has to go for deeper songs. We Belong Together is a good example of how she blended both these sides and look how people responded to it. Whereas I do really like the song, I too yearn for more mature lyrics. Apparently the remix is on its way. I hope it's a strong feature and female.

A little nervous about how this song will sound live at the BET Awards. Id rather she do a high energy believable lip sync than a sub par live effort that'll serve as its introduction to the masses.
(Monday 9 June 2025; 05:23)
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Promo and MV (109,172) by Shezz from Pk
I hope she's performing TD at BET and no Mimi medley though I would not mind an It's Like That to TD transition like the MC16 teaser clip.

As for the different guys in the song - either they should all be fictional or all past relationships. Would be weird for her to talk about someone from her old music video (motor cycle guy) but then computer boy toy also sounds like the TMB guy. Some say that's Nick though the forever guy sounds more like him or that could be Tanaka as well.

I also thought Tommy references now are a bit old and tired but maybe she did it because it made the verse more interesting and dramatic.

I wonder what her insta pic with the guys is about... bet maybe?

I think her MV video will definitely have a bunch of these guys in the video. She hinted at that in one of her interviews. They asked her about the guys and she said "you'll have to watch the video".

I wonder if they have a remix lined up already or are they waiting to see how it performs.

I'd be over the moon if the song just charts. What was her last single to chart? I don't think any of the Caution singles charted. Nor did I Don't and Infinity.

Was #Beauituful her last new song to chart? None of the remixes charted. She does not have the fan base for her songs to have a decent debut, at best it could work its way into top 40. Which would be big for her. TD is good but it's no Believe. Her best shot at the charts is a pop song with mass appeal.
(Sunday 8 June 2025; 05:22)
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