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The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,199) by Edward from USA Have you heard the classic tale of the boy who cried wolf? Sadly, that's exactly what's happening with the constant overuse of serious terms like "racism", "homophobia", "transphobia", and "misogyny". These words have been thrown around so casually and so often that they've lost much of their weight. Now, when real cases of discrimination occur, people are more likely to dismiss them. The public has grown tired and desensitized to it all. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 18:02) this is a reply to message 110,194

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,194) by Lighty from China I totally agree. As an Asian I always wonder why some people have to make everything about race, when sometimes it clearly is not the case. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 15:54)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,185) by Edward from USA Epic and stunning look. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 13:33)

Sugar Sweet (110,154) by Edward from USA I hope radio and people in general give "Sugar Sweet" a real chance, it is such a bop. She actually crafted a catchy hook that sticks in your head. I love the flavor Shenseea brings to the song, she reminds a little of Nicki Minaj. "SS" is definitely an earworm. I don't remember the last time Mariah released a song that got me humming the chorus spontaneously. It's definitely an earworm. If it doesn't become a hit, I don't know what will. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 03:43)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,093) by Edward from USA The biggest shift in her personality happened around 2012. When she was a judge on American Idol, her full blown diva persona really took center stage. I actually felt a little embarrassed by the way she acted toward Ariana. Ariana had always spoken about how much of an influence she was on her career, but eventually, she stopped mentioning it for a while. I remember thinking, "Mariah, embrace that little girl, you’re old enough to be her mother." Thankfully, she seemed to come to her senses later on. I’m not saying she’s a bad person, I truly believe she’s good at heart, but at some point, she started believing her own hype and surrounded herself with some questionable people. From that moment on, she was never quite the same. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 15:16) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

I'ma keep it sweet (110,081) by Edward from USA I like the "Sugar Sweet", but I don't think the other two girls were really necessary. The chorus is super catchy, I've caught myself humming it without even thinking. I was hoping for at least a few of those signature Mariah high notes sprinkled in, just to give it more of her touch. As for the charts, I really hope it picks up on streaming. "Sugar Sweet" definitely feels like a step in the right direction. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:52)

Andrew (110,080) by Edward from USA I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but based on my personal interactions with Andrew, I honestly think he's a good guy. Like anyone else, he was probably just going through something at the time. He's left the board a few times before, but I get the feeling this time it might be for good. With that being said, I don't think Eric would stop him from coming back, as long as he sticks to the rules. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:47) this is a reply to message 110,078

Jimmy Kimmel (110,078) by Dove from United States Oh yeah. I was wondering what happened to Andrew Gold. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:14)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,079) by Edward from USA Jamie, I've wondered the same thing. Mariah used to be so grounded, with this effortless innocence. She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special. It's sad, but at least we have her amazing back catalog to fall back on. I'm really hoping "Here For It All" has at least one huge power ballad. I kind of feel like this might be her last album. With how the voice has been and how long she takes between projects, I'm not sure what she'll sound like in another five years. Hopefully she goes out with a bang, a critically acclaimed album and maybe a couple of Grammys to top it off. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:40) this is a reply to message 110,075

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,075) by Jamie from UK Whilst I love that Mariah is still putting out music I can't help but wonder what went wrong for Mariah. I've just heard Without You on an Instagram post which to me is the pinnacle of Mariah in 1993, you couldn't get much better than that. To now her latest single Sugar Sweet (which I don't mind) but let's be honest she can barely sing this tune and it isn't very taxing on the voice as a were her earlier hits. When I hear old school Mariah I can't help but feel sad at where we are now. A complete transformation of personality and a huge degrading of vocals. What happened? Was it self inflicted or is it just natural wear and tear of a once untouchable voice. I would love to rewind to 1993 when her career took off internationally and just remind her to stay grounded and focus on what's important. I've said this multiple times but I just don't get how we went from Mariah to MC it's such a contrast of personalities. Her early cross over stuff was cool but as I've said countless times she took it too far and I think the partying etc took a toll on her vocals and ate away at her wholesomeness. She might say and pretend that she's always been hood but I remember those early days and there was no pretence, just a natural girl living her best life. Yes we all change but we're still recognisable, I think Mariah took it too far and now she doesn't even recognise herself. Her appearance last night on Jimmy Kimmel is a far cry from who she once was, I would love to sit 1993 Mariah down and show her 2025 Mariah. I don't even think she would relate to that. I'm speaking from the heart and probably don't understand the ins and outs of the celebrity lifestyle and how it affects you both physically and mentally. But part of me wants to understand what went wrong and what happened to Mariah and why she's so affected now and her voice has taken such a turn. It's great she's still giving us music but vocally and especially personality she's a far cry from what she was. I don't even think Mariah knows herself anymore she's that affected. I reminisce of her dancing on the beach with "to be around you" playing out to her now barely able to focus or speak and can't but help to want to say to her it's ok to be Mariah again. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:14)

Jimmy Kimmel (110,074) by Edward from USA Bobby A, that was a different person from the UK. It's been nearly two years since Andy last posted here. I think he was dealing with some personal stuff. I hope he's ok wherever he is. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 01:13) this is a reply to message 110,071

Jimmy Kimmel (110,071) by Bobby A from United States No, I saw him post something in the spring. He did say something nice. Andrew and I had a love and hate history that some of the newbies don't know anything about. I can laugh about it now, but that time was constant reprimanding that I wanted to leave the board. He just didn't like my ecentric personality. Lol. (Friday 25 July 2025; 22:28)

Sugar Sweet (110,000) by Edward from USA I almost had a heart attack, I thought this was real, but it really sounds like her. I hope hers is better than this. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 14:43)

Physical copy (109,973) by Edward from USA Stacey, what did we say about going off-script? You can't just go around expressing your own opinions like that, people will start thinking you're not just a mindless extension of me. Next time, wait for my email with the approved talking points. I really hate to do this publicly, but I'm afraid this calls for a light reprimand. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 02:58) this is a reply to message 109,966

Physical copy (109,966) by Stacey from USA I'll always buy a physical copy. There's just something nostalgic about opening up a new CD, taking out the liner notes and looking though them. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:06)

Everything we know so far (109,967) by Edward from USA Exactly my sentiment about "Dear Boy". When Bobby A mentioned it, I went straight to YouTube to listen to it. My first thought was, Mariah would absolutely obliterate this track. Her masterful skill at stacking up impeccable background vocals would take this song to another dimension. I loved it from the first listen, and I'm really hoping this is the song she'll cover on "Here For It All". (Thursday 24 July 2025; 01:18) this is a reply to message 109,962

Everything we know so far (109,962) by Haiji from United States Ok so here are my thoughts on everything about this new album rollout. Let's start with the cover. After all 3 reveals, I'm starting to like the all black cover. Seems like most natural one out of the three. Like Mimi stated before, the first one is giving magazine cover and I kind of agree with ADAM, the D2C cover looks very AI and too modified. I forget who here mentioned that they don't care about the cover as long as the music is good. You are right, that's really what matters but hey it's Mariah, we want everything to be perfect when it comes to her. I'm hoping for more bonus tracks on the deluxe versions than just the 11-12. I'm honestly not too familiar with The Beatles nor Paul M's discography but I went to listen to a few tracks that could possibly be the cover song and I have to say, Dear Boy would probably be her best option. I felt like Live and Let Die would be just another BOTHB cover. I can already hear and imagine the vocal stacks and harmonies she would bring to Dear Boy, praying I'm right. Yall might tear me apart for this but for some reason, that 10sec teaser of Sugar Sweet isn't doing anything for me yet. It seems catchy but it's not stuck in my head like TD was with the first snippet. Imo the clip made me think instantly of Stay Long Love You, which isn't a favorite of mine. Hoping the lyrics are a bit mature because right now it's giving teen girl bop. Lastly, September seems so far away not sure if that's a good idea. The momentum needs to keep going with more releases until then if that's the case. Drop an all club versions EP of TD. Drop Sugar Sweet, with a great video and remixes, hopefully with JD. She should go on The Breakfast Club around the time of the album release to promote it. Oh and the title caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting a different type of title compared to her previous. It's alright I guess, it just doesn't catch my attention right away. Sounds more like an album cut not an album title. I'm sure I missed a few thing but I'll be back lol. (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 20:35)

Webmaster request (109,959) by Edward from USA TJ, I don't think you're ready for a bitchy and petty diatribe. (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 19:14) this is a reply to message 109,953

Webmaster request (109,953) by TJ from Norway Why do you bring so much bad vibes to the table? (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 15:56)

The Webmaster (109,944) by Edward from USA Eric's been fair with everyone on this board, consistently. That's basically the board's unofficial consensus since dial-up days. He doesn't need to change a damn thing. The man's been moderating like a pro for over two decades, longer than some of you have been out of high school. If it were up to a few people here with their "cancel everything that mildly annoys me" attitude, this board would've been nuked years ago. So shout out to Eric for keeping this circus running smoothly. (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 02:00)

Webmaster request (109,942) by Edward from USA Nobody said anything negative to Brad, except Victoria, who implied the board was full of "hating ass hoes". I guess she included herself in the mix, minus the "hating" and "ass" parts. Some people just love to stir the pot and make things up. Brad made a vague comment about the board, but nothing specific. It was weird because, as you said, we were all just joking around about album titles and having a good time. The vibe was light. Looking at his recent posts, it's pretty clear Brad hasn't been happy with anything Mariah-related lately, which is totally fine. The problem is, when he chose to leave, he acted like this place was some toxic nightmare and he just couldn't deal anymore. That doesn't make sense, especially when most folks here actually liked "Type Dangerous" and the video. Many love playing the victim and throwing digital tantrums, they start acting like they're here to reprimand others, which is just ridiculous. We've got positive folks, critical folks, and everyone in between, but we've all been part of this board for a long time. Brad completely trashed "Type Dangerous", can you imagine if I had gone off on him for not liking it? It'd be absurd. Time to stop being so damn sensitive, it ain't that serious. This board is going to keep being what it is. If I had a penny for every time someone complained about a person, a post, or the entire board, I'd be filthy rich by now. Some keep trying, but nobody's going to be walking on eggshells here. (Wednesday 23 July 2025; 00:58) this is a reply to message 109,930

Webmaster request (109,930) by Stacey from USA I'm still confused about who or what said anything to Brad. I certainly did not call him names nor do I ever call anyone here names. Yet, I was looped in somehow. *shrugs* My only comment was how a bunch of us were coming up with funny album titles, poking some fun at MC herself. Nothing too serious. I started posting online with the MC pink boards during the CB era. I was 24 and took everything so personally. Now at almost 48 years old, I could care less what someone says. Maybe it is an age and maturity thing. Who knows. I wish him the best. (Tuesday 22 July 2025; 18:47)

Webmaster request (109,815) by Edward from USA Sorry, but your posts are now part of MCArchives Messageboard history, a permanent digital glitter trail, if you will. So even if you don't want to be associated with us anymore, your posts will always be here, forever moisturized, never deleted, and archived like Mariah's 90s whistle notes. Now, anytime we scroll through those iconic threads, we'll fondly reminisce about the old days when you were here. One thing though, and I'm dead serious, if you go, you can never twerk with us again. (Saturday 19 July 2025; 01:19) this is a reply to message 109,814

Webmaster request (109,814) by Brad from USA Hi. Please delete my account, profile and postings as I do not wish to have any association with this site any longer. Thank you. (Friday 18 July 2025; 20:53)

The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,810) by Edward from USA I know you have a lot of feelings, but you don't even go here. (Friday 18 July 2025; 17:00) this is a reply to message 109,808

The problem with Brad and hating ass hoes (109,808) by Zachariah from Croatia Yes, this board is (with capital letters) very unfriendly but only from one clique that is constantly diminishing love towards Mariah from others who, according to them, are not worthy to be her fan just because they don't have the latest info on anything similar regarding her career. I literally joined here somewhere back in 2006 exactly because of that, to be informed, to read the news, to get the latest "411", to feel seen and accepted since no one was into Mariah amongst my group of friends. In my part of world, we only got general info but I wanted more. I learned here so much and always refreshed the page to see if something new came up. I didn't came here to see insults, constant shade, outwitting and similar behavior. Loving ass hoe from Croatia. (Friday 18 July 2025; 14:19)

Pitbull (109,764) by Edward from USA I'm naming my pitbull "Type Dangerous". (Wednesday 16 July 2025; 03:27)

Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,757) by Edward from USA Thanks, Bobby A. (Tuesday 15 July 2025; 18:20) this is a reply to message 109,746

Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,746) by Bobby A from United States Edward, I like your new photo. When MC releases MC16, I am going to add my photo again. Anyway, MC could sell millions if she released her demo tape on vinyl just as Tommy heard it for the first time. The CD version could be packaged with The First Vision home video on DVD. I wonder if any AR executive at Sony has thought about doing it. (Tuesday 15 July 2025; 04:55)

Visionof Love, The Bill of Rights (109,743) by Edward from USA Reading about the history of the VOL, I think Bill is right. The song was the first one Mariah and Ben Margulies Margulies wrote together right after she got signed to Columbia. The demo in the video is actually what they presented to Tommy for her debut. In his book, Hitmaker, Tommy explained that while Mariah was clearly a brilliant singer and songwriter, he knew that she and Ben didn't have the production experience to fully shape a major label debut album. He respected what they had created but felt it was too big of a project to leave solely in their hands. Tommy gave them a shot, but after months they hadn't accomplished much. So he brought in top producers like Narada Michael Walden, Ric Wake and Walter Afanasieff (at the end) to help elevate the material and production. (Tuesday 15 July 2025; 02:09)

Vision of Love (109,735) by Edward from USA Are you reprimanding Bill? Just because he was like totally wrong. Please don't do it again. (Monday 14 July 2025; 19:42) this is a reply to message 109,732

Vision of Love (109,732) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Are you sure? According to several sources, Vision of Love was part of the original demo tape. (Monday 14 July 2025; 16:31)

New album (109,708) by Edward from USA Bobby A, Mariah is a legacy artist, just like many others were when she was on her prime. MC16 will probably come and go like "Caution" did. No matter how many appearances she makes, it won't make much of a difference. To be fair, she was promoting consistently when TD came out and, lipped or not, she put on a great and energetic performance at Summertime Ball in the UK. Other than her legacy fans, meaning us, nobody is out there craving new music from her. Her streaming numbers are an indication of what's going on, 2.5M in a month after a 7-year hiatus. As I stated before, unless she comes out with a banger featuring a big name like Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Ariana Grande, Sabrina Carpenter or Taylor Swift, don't expect chart success. Always remember though that chart success does not necessarily a great album make. Enjoy the music. Winter is coming. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 07:36) this is a reply to message 109,704

New album (109,704) by Bobby A from United States I think after TD didn't perform like MC and Gamma had hoped they are trying to regroup and come up with another plan to launch the album. August is almost here and it will be September 1st before we know it and it seems promos have stalled waiting for TD to become Touch My Body in 2025. I analyzed album roll out plans and promos for several artists who have albums coming out in August with a definite release date and most have been on various TV programs promoting their new albums. I think Gamma is going about rolling out MC16 all wrong. I hope with the 2nd single rollout that MC is on as many TV programs that she can make an appearance on and start promoting her new album. Just my two cents this weekend. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 03:14)

The remixes (109,701) by Edward from USA Had the remixes been released simultaneously with the original, TD would've charted way higher. At least two of the remixes are better than the original. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 20:12)

Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,689) by Edward from USA Welcome to the Twilight Zone, my dear. You've just stepped into the alternate-twin-universe version of the MCArchives Messageboard, where logic takes naps, reason time-travels, fetch did happen, Mariah made up the word emblazoned and the webmaster might actually be your cat. Be careful, things are not what they seem in here. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 04:50) this is a reply to message 109,688

Unpopular opinion - alternate universe (109,688) by Zachariah from Croatia This is not an alternate universe; it's another galaxy/Borg planet/something. (Saturday 12 July 2025; 02:19)

Unpopular opinions (109,658) by Edward from USA I think "Hero" is not only about a specific element, but a combination of things, one of them being the moment in which it was released. More than the lyrics, which are as cheesy as Regina's cheese fries, it's Mariah's then persona, relevance and delivery that give it that extra punch. The song wouldn't work if it were released today with what's left of her voice and the detached from reality diva persona she's assumed since 2009. To judge and understand Hero, you really have to put it in the context of when it came out. For most, if you weren't part of that time, you probably won't get it. I was a mere 2-year toddler, but I still remember that iconic statuesque princess-like figure singing it passionately and effortlessly at the Proctor's Theatre and the guy from the audience reaching multiple eargasms. It was simply epic (Wednesday 9 July 2025; 19:42) this is a reply to message 109,657

Unpopular opinions (109,657) by Haiji from United States Regarding only songs or albums, what are some unpopular opinions you all got? "Hero" still hasn't grown on me yet. "Thank God I Found You" was not #1 worthy and based on how many song I listen to from each album, Caution is my least favorite. (Wednesday 9 July 2025; 16:34)

Album titles (109,656) by Edward from USA Mariah keeps trying to make "Oh Santa" happen, it's not going to happen. It's like she threw everything on it hoping something would stick. (Wednesday 9 July 2025; 15:39) this is a reply to message 109,655

Album titles (109,655) by Jamie from UK Hahaha I'm lol at Oh Santa that song is just far too busy. (Wednesday 9 July 2025; 03:18)

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