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MB30 - reflections (103,520) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 02:50)
Could you be specific? What was recorded - when, for what and used when?
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This is a reply to message 103,518 by Bill from the UK
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 02:22)
Happy 26th to the real magnum opus (103,519) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 02:48)
Do not pity yourself: pity the blind and stupid for not noticing your greatest. You are as a part of space and time as any atom at any point in the stretch of the knowable Universe. Nothing - and nobody - takes precedence over you in any objective moral reasoning. No atoms are more or less entitled to existence than the billions of which you are made. You are the perfect version of you surrounded, merely, by imperfect interpretations of you. We are all made of stars. And we all shit. Dry your eyes, Bobby-A. Or I don't even know you.
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This is a reply to message 103,515 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 01:06)
MB30 - reflections (103,518) by Bill from the UK
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 02:22)
The pre-records for Without You actually began in 1994 for the Christmas TOTP performance. Then again at MSG in 1895, the Tokyo Dome dates of the Daydream tour in 1996, and then from Butterfly tour onwards.
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This is a reply to message 103,513 by BFF from United States
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 16:30)
Butterfly (103,517) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 01:36)
Magnus Opus just means "Big Work", right? I think sometimes we confusingly think of it as the greatest? Perhaps I am splitting hairs. I offer that the greatest work must be Music Box for sheer popularity. The Seminal Work - that is to say, the work that affected all works after it - must surely be Daydream. I offer Butterfly up as the emminent work.
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Happy 26th to the real magnum opus (103,516) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 01:24)
Randy, I too celebrate turning 26 today but was not unwrapped in my father's basement until much later and unfortunately the evidence did not stand.
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This is a reply to message 103,514 by Randy from USA
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 00:50)
Happy 26th to the real magnum opus (103,515) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 01:06)
Randy, your post about Butterfly brought tears to my eyes. Your comments are spot on. I remember Butterfly and how every song that year in 1997 was my life. It was the joy of Honey to the alienation in Outside that spoke about how my mother was treating me because she had a gay son. I must stop typing now to the wipe the tears from eyes. Butterfly is the real magnum opus.
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This is a reply to message 103,514 by Randy from USA
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 00:50)
Happy 26th to the real magnum opus (103,514) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 17 September 2023; 00:50)
While everyone is celebrating Music Box and incorrectly calling Daydream MC's artistic zenith, I'd like to interject and celebrate the real magnum opus, Butterfly, which turns 26 today. On this day, 26 years ago I unwrapped the cellophane off of this CD in my fathers basement and popped it in the disc changer. I never before heard an album where every song is a single. Every verse reads like poetry. And every vocal is astounding. Rasp, falsetto, belting and whistles are all used here. My biggest issue with R&B music is artists always sing about romantic love or break ups. This Pop/R&B album includes songs about childhood pain and alienation. It is in one word stunning. Happy anniversary to Mariah's favorite. And the best album of all time. From any artist.
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MB30 - reflections (103,513) by BFF from United States
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 16:30)
I wonder why there wasn't a single live performance of "Never Forget You". It was technically a double A-side single release with "Without You" in the United States and got some airplay on R&B radio. I think it's a wonderful song and makes me wish Mariah had attempted more sessions with Babyface.

I have also always wondered why "Anytime You Need a Friend" disappeared from her set lists between 1996 and 2019. It's easily one of her best "single" releases and every bit as good as "Make It Happen", "Vision of Love", and her other gospel-style compositions. Maybe it was too demanding/hard to sing with the decline in her voice? "Without You" is pretty demanding as well, but she kept it in the setlist and didn't start using pre-recorded tracks for it until the "Charmbracelet" tour.
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This is a reply to message 103,478 by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 10:08)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,512) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 15:04)
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This is a reply to message 103,509 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 05:08)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,511) by Norman from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 07:57)
No offense, but are you new here? Andrew isn't a blind follower - quite the opposite. If anything, he's probably taking the piss.
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This is a reply to message 103,506 by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,510) by Steven Berning from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 05:49)
Andrew is so spot-on here. Follow blindly, is the irony missing on you?
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This is a reply to message 103,506 by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,509) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 05:08)
Andrew is just messing you. I had to toughen up during MIAM era because he criticized my every post. Then I realized he just wanted my special guest star status. Lol. I am glad that Andrew is back because I am stronger and wiser now. Since he has been back, I grown to like him even more. So what I am saying is just smile and laugh about his posts on the board. He is really just a harmless sweet tiger.
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This is a reply to message 103,506 by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53)
90s R&B Mariah covers (103,508) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 04:53)
I would be so elated if Mariah coverd my two favorite 90s R&B songs.
1. Soon As I Get Home
2. Weak
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Something's going on behind the scenes (103,507) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 03:37)
It was only that I didn't want to ruin our MB 30 celebration and MC mania about new music since FILAC (a Christmas song). Also, I learned growing up in a small Baptist church is that you don't comment on someone's sudden weight loss. What I saw or heard at church stayed right on the pew or in the Sunday School classroom.
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This is a reply to message 103,505 by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 01:58)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,506) by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53)
My comment was out of concern for Mariah and nothing else. As a dedicated lamb from the beginning, I can be concerned and question things as I see them. You choose to follow blindly and that's ok for you. I want the best for MC and if something doesn't look right, I will speak on it. With that being said, I hope everything is ok and that we get to see more of her healthy soon.
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This is a reply to message 103,502 by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 01:44)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,505) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 01:58)
"Yes I do concur. I have thusly not kept silence on anything at all anywhere on any subject any time. But I have also thought for 14 days that Mariah was demonstrating said unspecified behaviour deviating from her normal abnormal self to the point of abnormality in that it was not normal. But I just decided to not mention this one thing ever. In all the things I say about Mariah - most of which, too, are completely without substantiation and me just guessing and throwing out random baseless opinions. But *this* I kept to myself."
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This is a reply to message 103,501 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 15 September 2023; 23:05)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,504) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 01:53)
"And is there anyone else who can vouch for this? Step forward and ye shall be heard?" "Yes, m'Lord. I can definitely say that Mariah was in and indeterminately determined mood so as to appear delayed. Usually she is perfectly perfect and never demonstrates a demonstration of demonstrable delay. But she definitely had delay. Of what type and in what way I could not say. If it has been determined, I could not demonstrate how. And would remonstrate if you were to ask."
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This is a reply to message 103,500 by Myles from CT, USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 21:43)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,503) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 01:49)
To add to the very detailed indictment, steps forward a witness: "Yes, I didst see Mariah at the scene of the crime. She was definitely in some unspecified videos of an indeterminate nature and under the influence of some drugs that I could neither see nor name." - "Would you characterise her behaviour as normal?" - "No. She's normally perfectly normal. But this time, she was abnormal and not the normal normal she normally is."
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This is a reply to message 103,499 by Edward from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 20:12)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,502) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 01:44)
So, if I may rephrase: "I am inferring that Mariah, in unspecified videos, was under the inflluence of drugs which I cannot see or name, leading to indeterminate behaviour, for which I have no evidence to present." Slow down there, Columbo. Don't crack the case too early, you won't make the end of the show.
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This is a reply to message 103,498 by Brandon from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,501) by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 15 September 2023; 23:05)
I noticed that two weeks ago, but didn't want to say anything. The weight loss was so sudden. I pray all is well.
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This is a reply to message 103,498 by Brandon from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,500) by Myles from CT, USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 21:43)
I have been thinking the same exact thing. She seems heavily medicated and delayed. She looks stunning though.
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This is a reply to message 103,498 by Brandon from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,499) by Edward from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 20:12)
I also noticed that. She sounds and looks a little odd, but it is what it is, probably she was medicated.
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This is a reply to message 103,498 by Brandon from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,498) by Brandon from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 17:52)
While I'm enjoying this moment of MB30, I hate to be a negative Nancy, but did MC seem a bit "medicated" in those videos? She looked beautiful but something seemed a little bit off to me. I can't put my finger on it. I'm a very long time fan and can notice when she's a little different and there was something interesting going on here. Plus she's pretty much been MIA for a while. Maybe it's just me. Let me know what you guys think.
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All I Live For differences Rarities/Extended (103,497) by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Friday 15 September 2023; 12:55)
This video is perfect, thank you.
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This is a reply to message 103,494 by RJJ12 from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 02:01)
Why is Mariah's not releasing more albums? (103,496) by Lady B from USA
(Friday 15 September 2023; 04:44)
Lol those artists are combined 40+ years older than her. She's got time.
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This is a reply to message 103,488 by jaker20 from US
(Thursday 14 September 2023; 20:21)
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