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Mariah vs MC (102,401)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 March 2023; 01:35) | | |
| Like I said before this year, we will know for sure if Mariah will come back with the voice or MC will carry on with her vocal struggles and failed lip syncing. A soft retirement is imminent within 2-3 years though. |
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This is a reply to message 102,400 by
Bill from the UK
(Sunday 26 March 2023; 13:33) | | |
| Whatever happened to her voice in 1997 happened. With the loss of the ability to sing her songs well and fluidly like she did in prior years, the focus had to shift. So, musically the songs became less demanding vocally, the "I'm a songwriter first" narrative was cranked up to the max, and she became more concerned with her look than her voice. She should have said at the time what had happened to her voice and adapted her back catalogue and future songs accordingly. Instead she chose to prolong the facade with studio trickery, dubbing and lip syncing and now it's all gone too far. Those who know, know. Mariah Carey 1990-1996. 1997 onwards, someone else. |
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Mariah vs MC (102,400)
by Bill from the UK
(Sunday 26 March 2023; 13:33) | | |
| Whatever happened to her voice in 1997 happened. With the loss of the ability to sing her songs well and fluidly like she did in prior years, the focus had to shift. So, musically the songs became less demanding vocally, the "I'm a songwriter first" narrative was cranked up to the max, and she became more concerned with her look than her voice. She should have said at the time what had happened to her voice and adapted her back catalogue and future songs accordingly. Instead she chose to prolong the facade with studio trickery, dubbing and lip syncing and now it's all gone too far. Those who know, know. Mariah Carey 1990-1996. 1997 onwards, someone else. |
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This is a reply to message 102,399 by
Jamie from UK
(Sunday 26 March 2023; 01:52) | | |
| Ok as a 90's fan of Mariah and a continued fan to this day, I've always struggled with Mariah and MC. Whilst I like them both I'm more swayed towards Mariah. I've always wondered what she thinks, as Mariah did she always want to break away and be MC, or now does she long to be Mariah again? I say this because she always says how controlled she was, yet now every opportunity she gets she shows pics etc of her earlier career. Watching her earlier videos she is so natural and composed something I don't think can be forced or mimicked. So I often wonder who is the the real Mariah/MC? Don't get me wrong I love both, but I often wonder what happened that made the drastic change, I don't believe it was all Tommy as he could have dressed her in all he liked, but like I said you can't mimic those natural early performances. I get people change, I've changed myself, but not so drastically like she has. I always wonder who the happiest one was. To me she looks more happy in the early Mariah days when she was more wholesome, but would love to hear your spin on things. This all came from watching ATYNAF from Proctors Theatre, which to me is one of her best performances. I'm not looking to be judgmental I'm honestly just looking for peoples spin on things as it genuinely interests me. |
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Mariah vs MC (102,399)
by Jamie from UK
(Sunday 26 March 2023; 01:52) | | |
| Ok as a 90's fan of Mariah and a continued fan to this day, I've always struggled with Mariah and MC. Whilst I like them both I'm more swayed towards Mariah. I've always wondered what she thinks, as Mariah did she always want to break away and be MC, or now does she long to be Mariah again? I say this because she always says how controlled she was, yet now every opportunity she gets she shows pics etc of her earlier career. Watching her earlier videos she is so natural and composed something I don't think can be forced or mimicked. So I often wonder who is the the real Mariah/MC? Don't get me wrong I love both, but I often wonder what happened that made the drastic change, I don't believe it was all Tommy as he could have dressed her in all he liked, but like I said you can't mimic those natural early performances. I get people change, I've changed myself, but not so drastically like she has. I always wonder who the happiest one was. To me she looks more happy in the early Mariah days when she was more wholesome, but would love to hear your spin on things. This all came from watching ATYNAF from Proctors Theatre, which to me is one of her best performances. I'm not looking to be judgmental I'm honestly just looking for peoples spin on things as it genuinely interests me. |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,398)
by Lady B from USA
(Saturday 25 March 2023; 14:36) | | |
| For me it's Underneath the Stars. |
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This is a reply to message 102,395 by
BFF from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 23:27) | | |
| I prefer "Ken Lee" to "Without You". It's more soulful. |
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Lovers and Friends concert (102,397)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 25 March 2023; 12:55) | | |
| This event is going to determine very quickly what we can expect from MC this summer and fall. Will the performance show that her voice has improved? On the other hand, MC has to be getting ready to unleash multiple releases on her website in the fall. She is going to have a lot of competition this fall from Usher, Janet Jackson, Tori Kelly, and Brandy. |
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MC's former Buckhead manse (102,396)
by Brad from USA
(Saturday 25 March 2023; 03:05) | | |
Hi. Not sure I'm allowed to post a link like this to a walk through of MC's former Buckhead manse. I like how they say "Mariah has moved back to NY." Umm, yeah thugs broke in so, yeah MC said "See ya." Anyhow, the gingham wing chairs look familiar.  |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,395)
by BFF from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 23:27) | | |
| I prefer "Ken Lee" to "Without You". It's more soulful. |
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This is a reply to message 102,391 by
MC85 from Canada
(Friday 24 March 2023; 19:37) | | |
I have worked with and still do work with lots of much younger people, from early teens to mid-to-late 20's and they all know and can sing along to "Obsessed", even well before it had it's little semi-recent viral moment. So that's my choice, though definitely "Without You" isn't far behind though WU isn't as familiar to the young'uns.  |
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GTFO remixes (102,394)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 22:57) | | |
| The official Sony Music, Epic and Legacy imprints are on the CD. It even has the 30-year custom Mariah Carey imprint. The CD was delivered to me in a plastic promo sleeve with a insert picture of one of the video scenes captured. Lettering on the side is in Spanish manufactured in Brasil. Let me do some research on the web. Maybe I have been bamboozled on Ebay. |
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This is a reply to message 102,393 by
Edward from USA
(Friday 24 March 2023; 21:20) | | |
| Did you mean an unofficial? |
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GTFO remixes (102,393)
by Edward from USA
(Friday 24 March 2023; 21:20) | | |
| Did you mean an unofficial? |
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This is a reply to message 102,390 by
Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 17:02) | | |
| I got my hands on an official GTFO remix CD with 4 remixes. My favorite is Cavalier's Get To Steppin Anthem. Anyone else? |
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Is Mariah in a Jacksons video? (102,392)
by Edward from USA
(Friday 24 March 2023; 20:23) | | |
| That's Mariah on the video dancing her ass off. You're just haters. Mariah Carey has surpassed 22 billion streams across Spotify, Pandora, and YouTube. |
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This is a reply to message 102,387 by
The webmaster from the Netherlands
(Friday 24 March 2023; 14:14) | | |
Mariah and dancing?  You're funny. |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,391)
by MC85 from Canada
(Friday 24 March 2023; 19:37) | | |
| I have worked with and still do work with lots of much younger people, from early teens to mid-to-late 20's and they all know and can sing along to "Obsessed", even well before it had it's little semi-recent viral moment. So that's my choice, though definitely "Without You" isn't far behind though WU isn't as familiar to the young'uns. |
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This is a reply to message 102,376 by
Horacio from United States
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 00:25) | | |
Which MC single that did not reach #1 on Billboard Hot 100 has had the best longevity since its release? I think Spotify numbers in the last few years help determine modern reception and enjoyment in the general public. Contenders:
Without You
Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)
Oh Holy Night
When You Believe
I Know What You Want
It's Like That
Shake It Off
Obsessed
#Beautiful |
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GTFO remixes (102,390)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 17:02) | | |
| I got my hands on an official GTFO remix CD with 4 remixes. My favorite is Cavalier's Get To Steppin Anthem. Anyone else? |
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Is Mariah in a Jacksons video? (102,389)
by Maxym from Here
(Friday 24 March 2023; 16:30) | | |
| Yeah I though the same, but I don't see extreme advanced dancing in the video. |
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This is a reply to message 102,387 by
The webmaster from the Netherlands
(Friday 24 March 2023; 14:14) | | |
| Mariah and dancing? You're funny. |
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Is Mariah in a Jacksons video? (102,388)
by TJ from Norway
(Friday 24 March 2023; 15:03) | | |
| I was thinking the same. Haha. |
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This is a reply to message 102,387 by
The webmaster from the Netherlands
(Friday 24 March 2023; 14:14) | | |
| Mariah and dancing? You're funny. |
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Is Mariah in a Jacksons video? (102,387)
by The webmaster from the Netherlands
(Friday 24 March 2023; 14:14) | | |
| Mariah and dancing? You're funny. |
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This is a reply to message 102,386 by
Maxym from Here
(Friday 24 March 2023; 13:26) | | |
Hello. The music-related community I'm the most active in currently is that of Michael Jackson (and some others completely unrelated), but I came up with a cross-artist question that maybe I have more chance to get an answer to here.
I noticed that one of the dancer girls in the Jacksons "Art of Madness" video reminds me much of Mariah Carey. (At approx. 1:41.) I guess there are good chances it will simply be some totally random biased-by-video-photography-look-alike, but what makes me think that may be her is:
- The album *2300 Jackson Street* was released in 1989 on Epic, which was already linked to Columbia and Sony in that time.
- Mariah had already met Mottola and Columbia (since 1988 according to Wikipedia).
- She was not famous yet and I guess she always like Jacksons/Jackson 5 stuff, so I could easily extrapolate something like Mottola asking "Hey the Jacksons are shooting video, do you want to be in?"
- The way she stand with a head and lips at some point is very reminiscent of pictures Mariah from the early 90s to me.
- I though, OK but she didn't have her hair on her front in that era, but it happened she did, has in this picture (from 1989 according to Google). Though when she appears again at approx. 02:00, there are image where I think she still looks like Mariah, and other images not has much. Hair is attached in the back which I think is also unusual.
So maybe it's completely wrong, I would to end up with a "definitely yes" or "definitely no". |
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Is Mariah in a Jacksons video? (102,386)
by Maxym from Here
(Friday 24 March 2023; 13:26) | | |
Hello. The music-related community I'm the most active in currently is that of Michael Jackson (and some others completely unrelated), but I came up with a cross-artist question that maybe I have more chance to get an answer to here.
I noticed that one of the dancer girls in the Jacksons "Art of Madness" video reminds me much of Mariah Carey. (At approx. 1:41.) I guess there are good chances it will simply be some totally random biased-by-video-photography-look-alike, but what makes me think that may be her is:
- The album *2300 Jackson Street* was released in 1989 on Epic, which was already linked to Columbia and Sony in that time.
- Mariah had already met Mottola and Columbia (since 1988 according to Wikipedia).
- She was not famous yet and I guess she always like Jacksons/Jackson 5 stuff, so I could easily extrapolate something like Mottola asking "Hey the Jacksons are shooting video, do you want to be in?"
- The way she stand with a head and lips at some point is very reminiscent of pictures Mariah from the early 90s to me.
- I though, OK but she didn't have her hair on her front in that era, but it happened she did, has in this picture (from 1989 according to Google). Though when she appears again at approx. 02:00, there are image where I think she still looks like Mariah, and other images not has much. Hair is attached in the back which I think is also unusual.
So maybe it's completely wrong, I would to end up with a "definitely yes" or "definitely no". |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,385)
by Horacio from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 01:12) | | |
I forgot to include Endless Love - that has been getting decent replays on Spotify.
I didn't include Can't Let Go because its Spotify numbers have been bleak, even thought it's one her most beautiful songs. |
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This is a reply to message 102,383 by
Edward from USA
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 16:48) | | |
These songs were #2, but they are better than many of her number ones.
1. Endless Love
2. Can't Let Go
3. Without You
4. Shake It Off
It's good we can create our own version of #1's. Some of the best tracks would be excluded from Greatest Hits CDs forcing people to buy the whole album from which the track came from. Then there was the beautify of buying the tracks individually, so that trick didn't make sense anymore. I haven't ever played Infinity as part of her #1's. |
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Divas week has officially begun (102,384)
by Edward from USA
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 16:49) | | |
| I'm an Aries, April 5th. Not a diva though, lol. |
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This is a reply to message 102,377 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:20) | | |
One thing is clear, Aries are power people. (And often bosses, that's true.)  My grandma is an Aries too, her birthday is one day before Mariah's. |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,383)
by Edward from USA
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 16:48) | | |
These songs were #2, but they are better than many of her number ones.
1. Endless Love
2. Can't Let Go
3. Without You
4. Shake It Off
It's good we can create our own version of #1's. Some of the best tracks would be excluded from Greatest Hits CDs forcing people to buy the whole album from which the track came from. Then there was the beautify of buying the tracks individually, so that trick didn't make sense anymore. I haven't ever played Infinity as part of her #1's. |
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This is a reply to message 102,376 by
Horacio from United States
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 00:25) | | |
Which MC single that did not reach #1 on Billboard Hot 100 has had the best longevity since its release? I think Spotify numbers in the last few years help determine modern reception and enjoyment in the general public. Contenders:
Without You
Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)
Oh Holy Night
When You Believe
I Know What You Want
It's Like That
Shake It Off
Obsessed
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Why must she choose Infinity as the bonus single? (102,382)
by Edward from USA
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 16:36) | | |
| I agree, sadly we got Infinity. |
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This is a reply to message 102,378 by
Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:24) | | |
| Of all the break up songs that she has, from The Rarities and other unreleased songs, why she had to choose Infinity? She can either pick the inspirational ballad like I Pray, or the "woe is me" kind of ballad like Out Here On My Own, or she can go for the happy diss song like Cool On You, or fun retro like Mesmerized. Any of those songs that she choose as bonus/leading single from that 2015 era would definitely turn out better. |
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BE Remix is nearing its 1st Anniversary (102,381)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 15:59) | | |
| Big Energy Remix is almost 1 year. How time flies. It's rally a good bop and sounds fresh until now. I remembered when it was released. There was a great deal of hype. Sadly, it didn't charted the way we wanted yet a good addition to her catalogue. |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,380)
by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 13:18) | | |
| "Without You" was #1 in Austria, Belgium, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. |
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This is a reply to message 102,379 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:27) | | |
| Definitely "Without you". This song will stay forever and still is one of her signature sounds, loved by so many people, not only fans. Then there follows with a huge distance "When you believe", "I know what you want" and "It's like that". |
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Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,379)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:27) | | |
| Definitely "Without you". This song will stay forever and still is one of her signature sounds, loved by so many people, not only fans. Then there follows with a huge distance "When you believe", "I know what you want" and "It's like that". |
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This is a reply to message 102,376 by
Horacio from United States
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 00:25) | | |
Which MC single that did not reach #1 on Billboard Hot 100 has had the best longevity since its release? I think Spotify numbers in the last few years help determine modern reception and enjoyment in the general public. Contenders:
Without You
Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)
Oh Holy Night
When You Believe
I Know What You Want
It's Like That
Shake It Off
Obsessed
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Why must she choose Infinity as the bonus single? (102,378)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:24) | | |
| Of all the break up songs that she has, from The Rarities and other unreleased songs, why she had to choose Infinity? She can either pick the inspirational ballad like I Pray, or the "woe is me" kind of ballad like Out Here On My Own, or she can go for the happy diss song like Cool On You, or fun retro like Mesmerized. Any of those songs that she choose as bonus/leading single from that 2015 era would definitely turn out better. |
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Divas week has officially begun (102,377)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:20) | | |
| One thing is clear, Aries are power people. (And often bosses, that's true.) My grandma is an Aries too, her birthday is one day before Mariah's. |
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This is a reply to message 102,373 by
Edward from USA
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 15:07) | | |
| Wow, I didn't know Celine and the others were Aries too. |
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