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HFIA Breakdown (113,317)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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The Roof has grown on me over the years. I didn't like it at first. Her current voice is suited to sing songs like this and Breakdown. So, yes, it would be nice if she released an album with songs influenced by hip-hop like these, and I won't mind.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 06:20)
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HFIA breakdown (113,309)
by Bill from the UK
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Were it not for The Roof being so damn good, Breakdown would be my favourite from Butterfly. Those two tracks are like the backbone of the album and such a positive step in the evolution of her sound back then.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 20:51)
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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,316)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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"TD is a fun song, and I agree that the intro beat and sample are fantastic. While the chorus is somewhat underwhelming, I still like the song, though I don't love it as much as her first singles from the 90s. 'Fantasy', 'Honey', 'Heartbreaker', and 'Emotions' are her four strongest first singles. Each of these songs features a chorus that people can easily sing and hum along to, which is something that 'TD' lacks."
(Monday 23 February 2026; 06:17)
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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,314)
by Bobby A from United States
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Type Dangerous' intro beat is sick with a clever hip hop sample. However, the beat for the lyrics and chorus is underwhelming. The minimalist production for the sassier lyrics take center stage and that was a bad production choice. I have to say Type Dangerous is MC's weakest first single ever. Through the Rain is her second weakest single. I hope MC can create something like Honey or Loverboy for MC17.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 01:50)
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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,315)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah is not in the stage of her career where she should be singing this type of songs anymore. She is not cool and she can't vibe with the beat. It's a great cool song, and if it's released by Ariana or Taylor, it would be a hit. The hype was there until she performed it on BET Awards, and the public saw that she can barely walk, and so the song tanked. It's a performance song, and she needs help to walk.
There is a disconnect between her and what lambs want her to do. If she wants to release a modern song like Type Dangerous, maybe it's better if they release a really great video and then hide her from the public.
It's the same situation with Sugar Sweet. If that song is released by someone else, it would be a hit because it's a great song. But the supposed video of it, it's the same touching her hair and hips moves. Well I have no words how bad it is. How do you craft a great song and throw it away like that is the current state of Mariah's career.
So Mariah 2026 problem is not the song, and not even her voice. The problem is her, she doesn't know how to perform these types of songs anymore. She cannot be directed, not choreographed. I think it's time Mariah and lambs accept the fact that she should only release songs that matches her current personality and her performance level.
It's sad when lambs post here that they listen to AI Mariah. They are imagining a Mariah of the good old days on her current songs which is some mental acrobatics. That's just how bad her situation is, and just a bad way to listen to music in general. They'd rather listen to Mariah sounding like a chipmunk (frankly that's how AI sounds to me in general), that is not her, than accept her current state. Equally sadder is suggesting a nodules operations, another lamb fanfic that will somehow turn back the clock.
For me My Love is her current state. It does not fit on the radio nor the streaming hits right now, but its authentic to her current voice and personality. And I'm sure she can at least perform that kind of song live. Think 70s Carpenters, understated, standard, mature, dare I say: basic.
That's her in 2026 and the next few years. She's not a popstar anymore nor a vocal diva anymore and the first step is accepting it.
Also, to add: everyone was excited about Nothing Is Impossible, then all the excitement went away after she performed it at the Olympics. Her performance almost always backfires on her own songs.
That's what happened with #Beautiful, and that's the state of her new songs over the past 15 years if you think about it. At least on her non-Christmas songs. Thankfully the legacy of those classics is so strong she herself can't ruin them anymore when she performs them.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 03:38)
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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,314)
by Bobby A from United States
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Type Dangerous' intro beat is sick with a clever hip hop sample. However, the beat for the lyrics and chorus is underwhelming. The minimalist production for the sassier lyrics take center stage and that was a bad production choice. I have to say Type Dangerous is MC's weakest first single ever. Through the Rain is her second weakest single. I hope MC can create something like Honey or Loverboy for MC17.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 01:50)
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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,314)
by Bobby A from United States
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Type Dangerous' intro beat is sick with a clever hip hop sample. However, the beat for the lyrics and chorus is underwhelming. The minimalist production for the sassier lyrics take center stage and that was a bad production choice. I have to say Type Dangerous is MC's weakest first single ever. Through the Rain is her second weakest single. I hope MC can create something like Honey or Loverboy for MC17.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 01:50)
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I had a dream (113,313)
by Bobby A from United States
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Yes, I know MC has reflected upon her missteps with HFIA and now has a plan to give us a Mariah Carey album we have not heard since Daydream, Butterfly or TEOM. I just feel MC is getting ready to join the following legacy artists in the Grammy platinum album comeback club.
1. Steely Dan - Two Against Nature (2000) 2. Paul Simon - Graceland (1986) 3. D'Angelo - Black Messiah (2014) 4. Santana - Supernatural (1999) 5. Green Day - American Idiot (2004) 6. Loretta Lynn Van Lear Rose (2004)
(Sunday 22 February 2026; 18:24)
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I had a dream (113,312)
by Giovanni from USA
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That's so exciting to hear, are you a detective Bobby haha? Seems like you know a lot about Mariah's whereabouts. I really hope Mariah's next album makes a splash and she finally gets those Grammys she deserves .Mariah deserves a Norah Jones or Billie Eilish moment. I hope Gamma can make it happen if the music is Grammy worthy.
(Sunday 22 February 2026; 06:33)
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I had a dream (113,312)
by Giovanni from USA
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That's so exciting to hear, are you a detective Bobby haha? Seems like you know a lot about Mariah's whereabouts. I really hope Mariah's next album makes a splash and she finally gets those Grammys she deserves .Mariah deserves a Norah Jones or Billie Eilish moment. I hope Gamma can make it happen if the music is Grammy worthy.
(Sunday 22 February 2026; 06:33)
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I had a dream (113,303)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you, Giovanni. I just keep having these strong feelings and visions that MC is preparing to come back stronger with MC17. MC was seen recently at Hit Factory Studios meeting with recording engineer Kento Yonesaka (worked on MIAM) and a producer from MIAM. She seems hungry to be on top again knowing that seven years between albums is something that she should never do again. Maybe Bruno Mars and Jill Scott have inspired her.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 15:09)
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HFIA breakdown (113,311)
by Bobby A from United States
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Both tracks are hip hop influenced songs where MC's voice often shines through. I hope she thinks about going in that direction for MC17.
(Sunday 22 February 2026; 03:34)
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HFIA breakdown (113,309)
by Bill from the UK
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Were it not for The Roof being so damn good, Breakdown would be my favourite from Butterfly. Those two tracks are like the backbone of the album and such a positive step in the evolution of her sound back then.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 20:51)
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Here For It All - discovery (113,310)
by Bobby A from United States
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Yes, I do. Daniel Moore said, "That's it MC." It sounds like he says, "I got it." However, he forgot to turn off his mic in the control room. MC must have recorded multiple takes and Daniel Moore was ready to go home.
(Sunday 22 February 2026; 02:45)
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Here For It All - discovery (113,305)
by Victor from Costa Rica
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Hi guys. I was listening to the song and I notice that at time 0:30 there's a man talking just right after Mariah says "Someone says that's tough." Can you understand what he is saying?
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 17:55)
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HFIA breakdown (113,309)
by Bill from the UK
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Were it not for The Roof being so damn good, Breakdown would be my favourite from Butterfly. Those two tracks are like the backbone of the album and such a positive step in the evolution of her sound back then.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 20:51)
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HFIA breakdown (113,299)
by Stacey from USA
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"You called yesterday to basically say; That you care for me but that you're just not in love; Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly; And led you to believe I was O.K; To just walk away from the one thing; That's unyielding and sacred to me." Oh heck ya, the song is about Jeter. Such a beautiful song.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 04:18)
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Nothing is impossible/ wrong lyrics (113,308)
by Lara from Middle East
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It would be nice if Mariah Carey people could reach Alyssa Liu for a video on Nothing is Impossible. Her story is beautiful and fits. Don't laugh at me but in (I won't allow it) I don't know why but my brain sings "I won't entertain that part" instead of "I forgot to tell you that part".
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 20:34)
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Nothing is Impossible (113,307)
by Jamie from UK
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I take the gruesome fall as being her first mental breakdown not when she fell on set. To me it's more of a gruesome fall from grace.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 19:37)
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Nothing is Impossible (113,301)
by AnKo from Germany
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Surely, we can't look behind the scenes and we don't know the budget that gamma has left for HFIA. But I would love this song to be the next single because it has potential as a hit but also for a great music video as well. She could tell her story about so many things: starting with the actual gruesome fall in that remix music video of #Beautiful, then her mental (bipolar) breakdowns to her family/private fails and falls. She could even issue her voice struggles and using playback all the time. But I guess that won't happen. It seems like she doesn't like to recall certain things and is trying to preserve that perfect image of hers as a supreme timeless song bird or something. Watching her latest performance at the winter Olympic games opening ceremony reminds me of an animal that has been attacked by a predator or hit by a bullet of a hunter and is pretending that every thing is still fine even though it can barely stand up or move. You know the instinct of animals to show no weaknesses? Idk, just a stupid thought of mine.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 10:57)
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Always Be My Baby 30th anniversary (113,306)
by Jamie from UK
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Probably resting her voice after the tour I suspect.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 19:35)
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Always Be My Baby 30th anniversary (113,304)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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This song was huge back then even if there's no tv promo this song still managed to get to No 1 on Hot 100 for two weeks. It's a wasted opportunity not to have Mariah perform this song at MTV Video Music Awards in 1996 when she's clearly there presenting award. She even made appearance at Rosie Show and Billboard Awards in late 1996 without performing any of the songs from the big selling album Daydream.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 15:53)
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Here For It All - discovery (113,305)
by Victor from Costa Rica
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Hi guys. I was listening to the song and I notice that at time 0:30 there's a man talking just right after Mariah says "Someone says that's tough." Can you understand what he is saying?
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 17:55)
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Always Be My Baby 30th anniversary (113,304)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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This song was huge back then even if there's no tv promo this song still managed to get to No 1 on Hot 100 for two weeks. It's a wasted opportunity not to have Mariah perform this song at MTV Video Music Awards in 1996 when she's clearly there presenting award. She even made appearance at Rosie Show and Billboard Awards in late 1996 without performing any of the songs from the big selling album Daydream.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 15:53)
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I had a dream (113,303)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you, Giovanni. I just keep having these strong feelings and visions that MC is preparing to come back stronger with MC17. MC was seen recently at Hit Factory Studios meeting with recording engineer Kento Yonesaka (worked on MIAM) and a producer from MIAM. She seems hungry to be on top again knowing that seven years between albums is something that she should never do again. Maybe Bruno Mars and Jill Scott have inspired her.
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I had a dream (113,295)
by Giovanni from USA
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Haha that is probably the best dream you've ever had Bobby, and I love your name by the way. Are you sure it was a dream and not your imagination/fantasy? In another universe that would happen but I'm not gonna hold my breath. I do believe Mariah has it in her to have another hit song, record and Grammy win. I'm still not over the Academy robbing her for AOTY in '06. I do feel Mariah has something planned for her next album though. Most of us love HFIA but feel it didn't make any noise. I love "In your feelings" and it hit number one on the r&b chart so that should count for something. I really hope Mariah's voice gets better and she gets another Grammy moment I believe she deserves.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 22:48)
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I had a dream (113,302)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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All things would really be like a wonderful dream. Too good to be true. But maybe one or two things will happen in the future. I had to laugh about number 10. Who will be the wealthy coach? Lol.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 14:07)
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I had a dream (113,288)
by Bobby A from United States
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I had dream last night that MC would be back on top again in 2028. Here is what I dreamed about.
1. MC releases her 17th album entitled, I'm Back (In Arms Your Again) - JD/BMC/Crystal Johnson/Johnta Austin collaboration 2. She collaborates again with Walter A., Babyface, JD, Skillrex, and some top producers and songwriters of the last 10 years. 3. Critics rave that MC's voice is back. Some say her Butterfly tone is back to stay. Her whistle range is "Emotions" strong again. 4. The first single makes it to number one in less than 5 weeks. 5. Many Lambs say the Bruno Mars, Sza, Toni Braxton, and Fred Again collaborations are their favorites. 6. MC embarks on a 30-city summer/fall tour in the U.S. The first show is at Proctors Theater. The last show is at Madison Square Garden. 7. The second single is a Pop R&B ballad collaboration with Walter A. and Babyface that is reminisce of Love Takes Time and Everytime I Close my Eyes. 8. One year later after the release of a deluxe version, eight Grammy nominations, numerous of television performances, a Rock and Hall of Fame Inductee, and the 2029 Superbowl Half-time show performer, MC finally wins multiple Grammy awards including Album of the Year and Record of the Year at the Grammys. 9. MC sits down with Oprah for a May TV sweeps interview about her remarkable career and the rollercoaster ride of 2028 and 2029. 10. MC finally falls in love again with a wealthy NFL coach.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 04:54)
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Nothing is Impossible (113,301)
by AnKo from Germany
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Surely, we can't look behind the scenes and we don't know the budget that gamma has left for HFIA. But I would love this song to be the next single because it has potential as a hit but also for a great music video as well. She could tell her story about so many things: starting with the actual gruesome fall in that remix music video of #Beautiful, then her mental (bipolar) breakdowns to her family/private fails and falls. She could even issue her voice struggles and using playback all the time. But I guess that won't happen. It seems like she doesn't like to recall certain things and is trying to preserve that perfect image of hers as a supreme timeless song bird or something. Watching her latest performance at the winter Olympic games opening ceremony reminds me of an animal that has been attacked by a predator or hit by a bullet of a hunter and is pretending that every thing is still fine even though it can barely stand up or move. You know the instinct of animals to show no weaknesses? Idk, just a stupid thought of mine.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 10:57)
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,300)
by John from USA
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Welcome back, Lambi. And yes, I can name half a dozen (at the least) of singers (professional and amateur) that can mimic Whitney's and Celine's voices to a tee, where if you weren't look, you'd think it's actually them singing. Mariah Carey the ultimate vocal Olympian though - not a single damn one.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 04:23)
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,298)
by Lambi from USA
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Hey John. There's no restriction on me being here or having an online presence. I just can't discuss, allude to, or hint at any active projects because I'm under NDA, and I'm very careful about that. I can post about anything that's already out and not new information. I come here when I get a break and read, but my frequent posting days are over.
By the way, I love your post about Mariah's voice being that rare flower. I haven't really heard anyone describe her instrument that way before. I also believe that's part of why she's so unbelievably prolific. The good vocal days are limited, so she has to get things done and take advantage when the voice is there.
"You'll see Whitney and Celine vocal impersonators left and right, some quite convincing in their mimicry, but there is no one that can fully embody Mariah's unique tone." I've always felt this way. No one can match that top quality belting tone in My All, Whenever You Call, and Heartbreaker. She is truly a freak of nature.
(Saturday 21 February 2026; 01:51)
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HFIA breakdown (113,299)
by Stacey from USA
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"You called yesterday to basically say; That you care for me but that you're just not in love; Immediately I pretended to be feeling similarly; And led you to believe I was O.K; To just walk away from the one thing; That's unyielding and sacred to me." Oh heck ya, the song is about Jeter. Such a beautiful song.
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HFIA breakdown (113,294)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I also love "Breakdown" since it has been released in 97. I even love the rap on it. A perfect RnB song with a cool video. Was the song about Derek Jeter just like "My all" and "The roof"? I forgot it. Anyway I feel very nostalgic with it too.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 21:45)
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,298)
by Lambi from USA
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Hey John. There's no restriction on me being here or having an online presence. I just can't discuss, allude to, or hint at any active projects because I'm under NDA, and I'm very careful about that. I can post about anything that's already out and not new information. I come here when I get a break and read, but my frequent posting days are over.
By the way, I love your post about Mariah's voice being that rare flower. I haven't really heard anyone describe her instrument that way before. I also believe that's part of why she's so unbelievably prolific. The good vocal days are limited, so she has to get things done and take advantage when the voice is there.
"You'll see Whitney and Celine vocal impersonators left and right, some quite convincing in their mimicry, but there is no one that can fully embody Mariah's unique tone." I've always felt this way. No one can match that top quality belting tone in My All, Whenever You Call, and Heartbreaker. She is truly a freak of nature.
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Type Dangerous: MC and the Epstein files (113,292)
by John from USA
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MC's team has no restrictions with you posting on this board again?
(Friday 20 February 2026; 15:26)
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Lambi (113,297)
by Giovanni from USA
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Nice seeing you on the message board Lambi. I've missed you.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 22:57)
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HFIA breakdown (113,296)
by Giovanni from USA
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I still listen to HFIA. For me "In your feelings", "I won't allow it", "Jesus I do" and "Nothing is impossible" are my favorites and the ones I play the most. My problem with the album is not so much the songs, it's Mariah's voice. I would love Caution part 2 with at least one hit song.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 22:51)
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HFIA breakdown (113,290)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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It seems Mariah has shelved HFIA and the deluxe edition idea. Typically, I listen to her latest album almost every day for the next six months to a year after purchasing it. However, I realized that it's only been five months since HFIA was released, and I haven't played it much in the past month or this month. Don't get me wrong. I like HFIA, but I guess I love playing her 90s' album more lately. In fact, I've been playing "Breakdown" more than any of her other songs. I loved it back then, and I love it even more now, including the music video. Lambs of my age can't help but feel nostalgic these days.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 05:18)
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I had a dream (113,295)
by Giovanni from USA
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Haha that is probably the best dream you've ever had Bobby, and I love your name by the way. Are you sure it was a dream and not your imagination/fantasy? In another universe that would happen but I'm not gonna hold my breath. I do believe Mariah has it in her to have another hit song, record and Grammy win. I'm still not over the Academy robbing her for AOTY in '06. I do feel Mariah has something planned for her next album though. Most of us love HFIA but feel it didn't make any noise. I love "In your feelings" and it hit number one on the r&b chart so that should count for something. I really hope Mariah's voice gets better and she gets another Grammy moment I believe she deserves.
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I had a dream (113,288)
by Bobby A from United States
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I had dream last night that MC would be back on top again in 2028. Here is what I dreamed about.
1. MC releases her 17th album entitled, I'm Back (In Arms Your Again) - JD/BMC/Crystal Johnson/Johnta Austin collaboration 2. She collaborates again with Walter A., Babyface, JD, Skillrex, and some top producers and songwriters of the last 10 years. 3. Critics rave that MC's voice is back. Some say her Butterfly tone is back to stay. Her whistle range is "Emotions" strong again. 4. The first single makes it to number one in less than 5 weeks. 5. Many Lambs say the Bruno Mars, Sza, Toni Braxton, and Fred Again collaborations are their favorites. 6. MC embarks on a 30-city summer/fall tour in the U.S. The first show is at Proctors Theater. The last show is at Madison Square Garden. 7. The second single is a Pop R&B ballad collaboration with Walter A. and Babyface that is reminisce of Love Takes Time and Everytime I Close my Eyes. 8. One year later after the release of a deluxe version, eight Grammy nominations, numerous of television performances, a Rock and Hall of Fame Inductee, and the 2029 Superbowl Half-time show performer, MC finally wins multiple Grammy awards including Album of the Year and Record of the Year at the Grammys. 9. MC sits down with Oprah for a May TV sweeps interview about her remarkable career and the rollercoaster ride of 2028 and 2029. 10. MC finally falls in love again with a wealthy NFL coach.
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I also love "Breakdown" since it has been released in 97. I even love the rap on it. A perfect RnB song with a cool video. Was the song about Derek Jeter just like "My all" and "The roof"? I forgot it. Anyway I feel very nostalgic with it too.
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by Lainsky from Philippines
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It seems Mariah has shelved HFIA and the deluxe edition idea. Typically, I listen to her latest album almost every day for the next six months to a year after purchasing it. However, I realized that it's only been five months since HFIA was released, and I haven't played it much in the past month or this month. Don't get me wrong. I like HFIA, but I guess I love playing her 90s' album more lately. In fact, I've been playing "Breakdown" more than any of her other songs. I loved it back then, and I love it even more now, including the music video. Lambs of my age can't help but feel nostalgic these days.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 05:18)
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Probably no deluxe (113,293)
by Bill from the UK
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Which is a shame because, although the album completely tanked, it was her best effort in years.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 20:13)
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Probably no deluxe (113,289)
by Bobby A from United States
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I guess I will be the first to say again that the deluxe version is probably off the table.
(Friday 20 February 2026; 05:00)
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