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Album delay (102,425)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 30 March 2023; 19:21) | | |
| We will know at the Lovers and Friends and L.A. Pride Fest performances if we are going to get a new album this year. If she sings Fantasy/Big Energy Remix and ABMB and no new songs, then we are not getting a new album this year. MC must be heartbroken about the deterioration of her voice. |
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This is a reply to message 102,423 by
T from USA
(Thursday 30 March 2023; 13:54) | | |
| Does anyone else get the feeling that all these projects in the works that never see the light of day is really because she's stalling? I wonder if her voice is too far gone? Back in the 90's Mariah could bang out an album every year. Or could it be that she is scared of the commercial performance which is freezing her from putting anything out? She's been talking about the same three projects now for three years since 2020, and it's obvious nothing is coming this year. So that means it will be four years since we first heard about SUD or TBL. And next year will be six years since her last studio album. I personally don't mind if Caution is her last album, as it is that good, knowing full well that her next real studio album will probably be her last. |
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For The Record (102,420)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 29 March 2023; 18:27) | | |
| I had forgotten how good this song was to the ear. It doesn't sound like a BMC production. |
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Mariah vs MC (102,401)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 March 2023; 01:35) | | |
| Like I said before this year, we will know for sure if Mariah will come back with the voice or MC will carry on with her vocal struggles and failed lip syncing. A soft retirement is imminent within 2-3 years though. |
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This is a reply to message 102,400 by
Bill from the UK
(Sunday 26 March 2023; 13:33) | | |
| Whatever happened to her voice in 1997 happened. With the loss of the ability to sing her songs well and fluidly like she did in prior years, the focus had to shift. So, musically the songs became less demanding vocally, the "I'm a songwriter first" narrative was cranked up to the max, and she became more concerned with her look than her voice. She should have said at the time what had happened to her voice and adapted her back catalogue and future songs accordingly. Instead she chose to prolong the facade with studio trickery, dubbing and lip syncing and now it's all gone too far. Those who know, know. Mariah Carey 1990-1996. 1997 onwards, someone else. |
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Lovers and Friends concert (102,397)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 25 March 2023; 12:55) | | |
| This event is going to determine very quickly what we can expect from MC this summer and fall. Will the performance show that her voice has improved? On the other hand, MC has to be getting ready to unleash multiple releases on her website in the fall. She is going to have a lot of competition this fall from Usher, Janet Jackson, Tori Kelly, and Brandy. |
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GTFO remixes (102,394)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 22:57) | | |
| The official Sony Music, Epic and Legacy imprints are on the CD. It even has the 30-year custom Mariah Carey imprint. The CD was delivered to me in a plastic promo sleeve with a insert picture of one of the video scenes captured. Lettering on the side is in Spanish manufactured in Brasil. Let me do some research on the web. Maybe I have been bamboozled on Ebay. |
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This is a reply to message 102,393 by
Edward from USA
(Friday 24 March 2023; 21:20) | | |
| Did you mean an unofficial? |
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GTFO remixes (102,390)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 17:02) | | |
| I got my hands on an official GTFO remix CD with 4 remixes. My favorite is Cavalier's Get To Steppin Anthem. Anyone else? |
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#Beautiful (102,375)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 15:22) | | |
| #Beautiful does not have that signature Mariah melody that we have been used to. It is the first time that she recorded a song that was already half-written with the chords and lyrics from two other songwriters - Miguel and Happy Perez. The remix showcases signature Mariah melody more. |
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This is a reply to message 102,372 by
Edward from USA
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 14:53) | | |
| I love me some #Beautiful, don't get me wrong. I played that song like there was no tomorrow, but there was always the feeling that something was missing. Many speculated back then it was just a shortened version for the radio. One must admit though that it was her last time she was close to having a hit. |
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RCA UK (102,367)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 21 March 2023; 21:27) | | |
| Remember in the Fall of 2021 we were all surprised that Fall In Love At Christmas was released on RCA Inspiration and not Epic. Well, I found out today that MC is signed to RCA UK. I guess that RCA UK was all Sony Entertainment could offer MC since she had not submitted a follow up to Caution in a timely manner. Check it out by doing a Google search - Mariah Carey signs with RCA Records. |
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One more reality show (102,363)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 20 March 2023; 18:12) | | |
| MC really hurt her chances of signing a new deal with Epic when in 2021 she was making her interview rounds criticizing the AR department and Jay Z for the instant grats promotion. For me, Melissa seemed liked a hands off manager and not really focusing on MC as the artist. And MC has lost the one thing that garnered her attention and money - her voice. |
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This is a reply to message 102,360 by
Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
(Monday 20 March 2023; 12:02) | | |
| Ya I am not even sure who's her current manager and if she even is on a label. She was no longer on the Epic roster last I checked and she also left RocNation with her previous manager but not sure if they're still together. It's unfortunate that such a huge star like Mariah hasn't had a good solid stable team for a while. Her only constant has been her glam team. |
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One more reality show (102,359)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 20 March 2023; 03:23) | | |
| I wonder why MC mentions these projects and they never see the light of day. 90's MC would never keep the Lambs hanging on this long for a new album. Something has to be going on behind the scenes on the business side of her career. Record label issues? Management issues? |
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This is a reply to message 102,358 by
Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
(Sunday 19 March 2023; 22:55) | | |
| That was what the previously promised "Butterfly Lounge" sessions were supposed to be about. Her in the studio, reimagining her songs and collaborating with different artists. She spoke so much about it and then just like so many other projects it was dropped. |
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One more reality show (102,355)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 17 March 2023; 12:03) | | |
| I thought today about one more reality show similar to the E! Network Uncut special that aired during the TEOM promotion period. It could be a real and authentic 5 episode series that focuses on MC's recording process with various producers, collaborators, and her reconnection with L.A. Reid in preparation for a new album release. |
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Lambs request (102,352)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 16 March 2023; 10:51) | | |
| I am getting very impatient. Lol. I just read today that Usher's new album will be on his own label with L.A. Reid. Maybe MC's new album will be on their new label. By the way, Usher's new single GLU drops this Friday. |
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This is a reply to message 102,347 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 13 March 2023; 21:30) | | |
| As thirsty as we all are for her music, I'm loving the anticipation. I would actually prefer "The Rarities 2" first. |
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Bye Bye video (102,349)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 14 March 2023; 19:59) | | |
Who's who the video towards the end is below.
3:51 Nana - Alfred Roy's mother
4:02 Patricia and her mother
4:04 Alfred Roy
4:07 Ol' Dirty Bastard
4:09 David Cole
4:13 Luciano Pavarotti
4:14 Luther Vandross |
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This is a reply to message 102,348 by
RL from USA
(Tuesday 14 March 2023; 17:18) | | |
| Does anyone know who each person in the pictures are towards the end of the Bye Bye video? There are a couple of pics of people I don't recognize. Just curious. |
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Lambs request (102,346)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 13 March 2023; 17:50) | | |
| I am just wondering what is this album MC talked about last year that Lambs have been asking her to release. Could it be a jazz or gospel album? Maybe a dance album? Billboard just announced that Warner Bros is launching a dance label. This is a genre that MC has had a successful track record for 30 years. It would probably sell better than a jazz or gospel. |
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Remixes (102,345)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 13 March 2023; 14:23) | | |
| Wow. How did this remix slip by me? It's on YouTube posted by several subscribers. |
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This is a reply to message 102,344 by
Nicole from US
(Monday 13 March 2023; 07:45) | | |
| Speaking of remixes, does anyone have a clear copy of Honey Summer Mix 2008? Pretty please. |
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I Still Believe (102,339)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 11 March 2023; 14:23) | | |
There is something special about MC's cover of I Still Believe. Listening to my ISB 12 inch brought me to post today.
1. It has to be MC's most real, carefree, and casual vocal ever. She sings with such ease without over using her higher register.
2. It was the combination of R&B and Pop that was highlight of MC's delivery.
3. If you have the CD maxi single or 12 inch versions, then you have something rare in your hands. In fact, there were five completely distinct versions released. The ISB remixes are by far one of MC's best remixes.
4. MC's cover of ISB was her way of paying tribute to her mentor and former boss, Brenda K. Starr.
5. Lastly, MC's use of the Pure Imagination interpolation was a brilliant and genius choice for the remix melody. |
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Remixes (102,334)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 11 March 2023; 03:40) | | |
| Stacey, your post got me thinking again. Why didn't MC release more remix albums during her height of her career? They would have done extremely well. We have only gotten one official remix album - The Remixes. |
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This is a reply to message 102,331 by
Stacey from USA
(Saturday 11 March 2023; 00:33) | | |
Welcome to the club, Randy and Eddie. I replace album versions for remixes all the time. I love some remixes better than the album version. The Morales remix of Honey took out my speakers too. I found a fan made radio edit that if it weren't a digital copy, it would have worn out long ago, lol. I remember when my sister got me a CD-5 for ABMB. It was like discovering a whole new world of music I honestly had no idea existed. Talk about receiving the ultimate Christmas present. That was it. We can say what we want about the current state of Mariah's career in 2023. But there is no denying her talent is unmatched by anyone on Earth. Add in her remixes, her career is unmatched by anyone in the freaking universe. Excuse me while I go and blast Honey Morales Remix and ruin a few more speakers.  |
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Yours (102,324)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 22:21) | | |
| Great post. Maybe this could be a new TikTok video for wedding rehearsals that could garner support for Jive/RCA to allow MC and IDJ to release the remix/duet this summer. |
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This is a reply to message 102,323 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 18:22) | | |
| This song is still so good. I love that it's so dreamy. It's unique and pure Mariah. Justin and his management were so stupid that they didn't want to release the remix with Mariah. That was a missed opportunity. |
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Remixes (102,321)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 12:14) | | |
| I just found today my Fye Mix and Burn copy of #Beautiful remix with A$AP Rocky and Miguel. I like that remix better than the Jessy remix. One thing that we can say about MC and her remixes is that she started the multiple remix genre featuring other artists and rappers on a different version of a song. DFAU is another one that fits into that genre. MC doesn't get enough credit for starting certain aspects of remixes and vocal stacking. |
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This is a reply to message 102,320 by
Edward from USA
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 04:24) | | |
| BB still counts remixes, but if they are structurally different from the original song then they're considered as two different songs. If Jennifer's I'm Real (Murder Remix) and Mariah's Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix) were released today, they wouldn't be considered as remixes for BB purposes, so their airplay, streams and sales wouldn't be combined with the airplay, streams and sales of the original songs. In other words, if you can't recognize the original song in the remix, then they two different songs. #Beautiful and #Beautiful (Jeezy Remix) had combined airplay, streams and sales. While Jesse's rap was added, the lyrics and music didn't go far from the original. Same with Big Energy, but since the original was more popular, Mariah wasn't credited. |
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The real reason for no respect (102,310)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 8 March 2023; 01:59) | | |
| Why did it take some distasteful jabs at MC by Chaka to bring out some of the best topics on the board in 3 months? I have enjoyed reading everybody's comments this week. Deep down inside I truly believe MC has one more great album and tour left in her. |
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This is a reply to message 102,309 by
JC from USA
(Wednesday 8 March 2023; 00:47) | | |
Haha, cheers. Another one that goes on the board after a few splashes.
I would say, despite the deterioration of her voice, her musicality is generally intact. For example, "You and I" for Stevie or her Patti tribute, raspy AF but she still delivered a unique take while being respectful of the original performance.
I find some performances by Bey or Christina (love them both, especially the former) are overdone to be showy.
When I look at runs for example, I judge based on the following criterion: precision (hits each note), pitch, and placement (meaning, does it actually fit musically and enhance the song).
I do think she always wanted to be a singer but not a performer. Much more of a studio artist, where her creativity shines. Not just the songwriting but the overall production of the track/album. |
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The real reason for no respect (102,299)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 6 March 2023; 22:32) | | |
| Just my opinion in what I am about to say. MC is probably headed for retirement within the next 2 years. Vocally, she can't support her career without a major tour and we know her voice is not there anymore. Mentally, I feel she has had enough of record label politics and the music industry in general. What I would say to MC today is announce your farewell album and one more time 16-show U.S. tour and an 8-show European and Asia tour for 2024. By the way, aren't artists obligated to release a certain number of albums during their contract period? MC must have fulfilled her obligations to Epic with Caution because she should have released a new album in 2022 if she signed a new contract. Seems to me that MC is without a major label first time in her career. |
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This is a reply to message 102,294 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 6 March 2023; 18:36) | | |
| Mariah was a natural born singer. Before she could even write anything, she was already correcting or emulating her mother, sometimes even leaving her speechless. She developed into a great lyricist, but she loved being showy like the rest of them when the opportunity presented itself. She was nervous during that performance you mentioned, but she was also very young and basically thrown into this gargantuan fame that could've swallowed anyone alive easily. Mariah was showy countless times on Arsenio Hall while singing Emotions, Vanishing, Vision of Love. She gave the best rendition of Vision of Love on Good Morning America, impeccable, surreal. About her nuances, well, that's what really put her in a league of her own, she wasn't just a singer that could blow, but a singer that could paint beautiful songs with her voice and artistry, what she sung came from her soul rather than somebody else's. I've always loved Whitney, her powerful vocals were unmatched, but Mariah's voice spoke to my soul and the souls of millions of people. When her instrument was in its prime, it was untouchable. I can't imagine Whitney, Chaka or Patti singing "Music Box", "Underneath The Stars", "Melt Away", "Fourth of July", no because they couldn't, but because their artistry wasn't at that level. When Mariah started losing her voice, she's started pushing her writing abilities to the front, it was evident she knew what was happening to her. It is sad, but in my humble opinion, the quality of her voice has always been directly proportional to the quality of her lyrics. When she was in her prime vocally, her lyrics were more poetic, balanced, beautiful, mature, but as the voice started deteriorating, her pen game also changed for the worse. |
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Music this year (102,287)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 4 March 2023; 18:39) | | |
| Music has been very boring and no excitement on the pop radio this year. I really feel this is the trend that is here to stay for a very long time. I do like the new Kali Uchis album Red Moon On Venus. It is a moody dreamy album about heartbreak. |
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Chaka Khan (102,282)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 3 March 2023; 23:54) | | |
| Why do you think that MC is disliked by so many female artists? Could it be the Tommy Motolla effect? How many other female artists have had so enormous push and financial investment from their label like MC had? None that I can think of. From 1990-1999, there were no other female artists bigger than MC and other female singers disliked MC during that time for it. Once the Tommy Mottolla effect wavered, MC's popularity decreased and the haters started speaking. To be honest, Tommy, MC and Sony did make a mighty team during her popularity and chart reign. Taylor Swift would have never had the same chart success like MC did in 90s. And Chaka is just mad because of what she could never achieve as a solo artist like MC did. |
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This is a reply to message 102,276 by
Mirage_Nunez from America
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 23:30) | | |
I agree. How disappointing. And I am a huge Chaka Khan fan, she has always been in my top 3 (maybe even 2 behind MC), so I won't take that away from her, but I found her commentary very distasteful especially what she said about MJB. She don't deserve to be blasted like that publicly.  I'm just gonna chose to chalk it up as the side effects of drug abuse.  |
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Chaka Khan (102,275)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 22:37) | | |
| Have y'all heard Chaka sing live lately? Her voice is not there anymore. She is mad because she has really never been seen as a great singer, but just a great performer with Rufus in the 70's. |
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This is a reply to message 102,274 by
Randy from USA
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 20:35) | | |
| Said Mariah was ranked #5 on Rolling Stone's best singers of all time due to payola. Basically implying Mariah getting all of her props due to paying out money. I love Chaka Khan but she downtalked Adele, Mary J. Blige as well because they ranked ahead of her. Chaka Khan was #29. I would think that someone who has been in the business for so long would know better to take journalists' bait to create sound bites. Clips from interviews in which you talk bad about people who outsell you make you sound bitter. And when your wigs look like you skinned Snuffleupagus and you have had a drug/alcohol problem for over 50 years, you really shouldn't throw stones anywhere near your glass house. |
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Hype for new album (102,268)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 February 2023; 03:49) | | |
| It seems to me MC no longer posts videos of her in the studio to hype up the anticipation of a new album. If she is going to release anything new, whether new album or [compilation] again, the chances that it ever will sell anywhere near Memoirs is unlikely. I am feeling MC is apprehensive about any new release because of public scrutiny that is will not be a huge hit. |
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