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Name: Stacey
Country: USA
Been a fan since 1993. Favorite albums include Daydream, TEOM, and Music Box. I love a good discussion, but won't stand for hateful comments because we disagree. Ok? I'm too old to deal with drama and so are you. Keep it real with me and we'll have some fun. Peace.
Re: RIP Olivia Newton John (100,941) (100,950) by Stacey from USA
(Wednesday 10 August 2022; 06:30)
Hopefully we will get something along the lines of an HD quality recording of their Butterfly Tour duet on The Rarities 2. I'd even love an acoustic recording ala Close My Eyes from the first rarities album. MC's Instagram post was perfect.
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,904) (100,906) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 5 August 2022; 07:56)
I think of her performance of Petals at the Rosie O'Donnell show in 2000. At the end of Petals where she sings, "I miss you Valentine (Tommy), I really loved you," she shook the microphone a bit with her head nodding as well. I think MC did love him with Butterfly being the words she wished he had said to her. I think she wanted the marriage to work but left when she had nothing more to give.
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Re: #Butterfly25 (100,880) (100,887) by Stacey from USA
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 00:12)
VHS? You millennials missed out on the good ole days.
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Re: Best breakup album: Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (100,884) (100,886) by Stacey from USA
(Wednesday 3 August 2022; 00:11)
Well true. Mariah did cover the song made famous by Phil Collins. But we all know MC chooses cover songs as meticulously as her own songs she writes. Crybaby is for sure about Derek. Such a great song.
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Re:#Butterfly25 (100,870) (100,873) by Stacey from USA
(Monday 1 August 2022; 08:10)
You had me in your corner right up until the end, lol. But I agree, leave Butterfly alone. It's such an iconic album, era, etc. She did rerecord The Roof with Brandy as part of Master-class. Fine. But don't do anything more.
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Re: MC hurry up (100,852) (100,855) by Stacey from USA
(Saturday 30 July 2022; 19:50)
Same. That SNL performance is insane, in a good way. I love the song even more now that we know the story behind it.

P.S. I got two kittens a few months ago. They are being quite wild this morning, lol.
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Re: MC hurry up (100,847) (100,848) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 29 July 2022; 23:09)
The great thing is we have 30 years of music to listen to while we wait. Go revisit a song or album you haven't listened to in awhile. My latest song is My All.
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Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,845) (100,846) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 29 July 2022; 03:12)
MC is fire when she uses all aspects of her voice. Just like I hate overuse of the whisper, I don't like songs where her full voice is flying high. I like it when she mixes it up. I like the tension, the build up and then emotional release at the end.
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Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,842) (100,844) by Stacey from USA
(Thursday 28 July 2022; 20:58)
I remember that story. As talented as Mariah is, and I know this may come as a shock to some, she is occasionally wrong. I am glad JD insisted she sing full voice instead of whisper on WBT and glad MC listened. Can you imagine whisper vocals all throughout WBT? Yikes.
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Re: (100,841) (100,843) by Stacey from USA
(Thursday 28 July 2022; 20:52)
First off, I'm glad you love Charmbracelet.

The album tanked with the general public because Mariah overused the whisper vocal. The lyrics were screaming for that full voice vocal and does MC do? Whisper. CB is hard for me to listen to because I don't get that emotional release. What is MC known for? What made her dominate the 1990s? That voice. It's why when promotion began for TEOM, the slogan used was "Return of the Voice". Mariah is most successful when she uses all aspects of her voice (whisper, full voice, whistle.) But again, I've always argued CB was released as damage control. It gave Mariah a platform to explain what happened during her breakdown, get her airtime, which set her up for the real comeback: The Emancipation of Mimi. And for that last reason alone I'll always be grateful for Charmbracelet even if I don't personally care for the album.
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Re: Walter (100,827) (100,832) by Stacey from USA
(Tuesday 26 July 2022; 03:37)
If I am referring to you, I will reply to your posts directly. In any case, the topic has run its course for me. I've said my peace. Now onto enjoying the music each day. Carey on.
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Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,819) (100,826) by Stacey from USA
(Monday 25 July 2022; 20:56)
Very good point. Absence does makes the heart grow fonder. See I don't think CB was a failure. I do think MC used the promotion for CB to share her side of what happened. The amount of promotion may have bordered on overkill, but I think she did that much to get as much face time out there to say she is ok and ready to make music again. The album was released to get her back in the game, give an excuse to tour, and get everyone ready for the real comeback which was TOEM.
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Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,817) (100,823) by Stacey from USA
(Monday 25 July 2022; 18:51)
Hi Dago. No worries. I totally forgot about that.
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Re: Walter (100,818) (100,822) by Stacey from USA
(Monday 25 July 2022; 18:45)
Exactly. I don't understand the need to put him down just because their partnership ended on bad terms.
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Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,807) (100,812) by Stacey from USA
(Monday 25 July 2022; 01:49)
Honestly for me it was the over usage of the whisper vocal. There were so many emotionally charged lyrical moments that called for that full mid upper range voice vocal and she gave me a whisper. CB was full of either whisper or stratospheric belts. I missed that mid range full voice vocal that we got so much of with TOEM.

The arrangements for Subtle Invitation and There Goes My Heart are amazing. But her whisper vocals got lost in the music, IMO. There's a moment toward the end of TGMH where she gives a full vocal riff and I just crave more of that over this amazing arrangement. MC is the master of building that tension through the first, second verse and subsequent choruses. Then she blows us away with an amazing bridge and final chorus. I missed that emotional release on CB. I didn't get that release on CB.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful for CB. It gave MC a time to shine, to write songs which helped her emotionally release with what happened the past few years and set up her big comeback with TOEM. I saw MC on her last tour date of CB in 2003. She sounded amazing. I love I Only Wanted and Irresistible.
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Re: Walter (100,808) (100,811) by Stacey from USA
(Monday 25 July 2022; 01:31)
Amen Terna. Well said. I especially loved this part of your post, "We don't have to bring others down in order for [MC] to shine, she does that already without effort."

I challenge everyone here to look at Emotions, Unplugged, Music Box, Daydream, and Butterfly. Look at each song on each album and count all the times Walter is mentioned. Walter and MC had a magical connection. Let him enjoy that success. At the end of the day, I'm grateful for the music I get to enjoy everyday.
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Re: Walter (100,799) (100,805) by Stacey from USA
(Sunday 24 July 2022; 11:01)
Like I said, all the details don't matter to me. It doesn't bother me at all if Walter flaunts his involvement with AIWFCIY each year. I'm just grateful for the music I get to enjoy everyday.
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Re: Thoughts: which album do you think MC dislikes (100,801) (100,804) by Stacey from USA
(Sunday 24 July 2022; 09:16)
Yeah Rainbow is a hot mess. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love Heartbreaker, Crybaby, Petals, and After Tonight. But that album doesn't have that cohesive feel to it like other albums. It totally was the "I want out of Sony" rushed job. Still she pulls out two #1 singles. Amazing.
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Re: Walter (100,795) (100,797) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 22 July 2022; 22:27)
Honestly who cares if Walter touts AIWFCIY each year. He is given writing credit in the liner notes after all. Furthermore, MC didn't want to make a Christmas album so early in her career. Tommy pushed her to do such. Either way, all the details don't matter to me. I'm just grateful the song was written and is such a staple come Christmas time.

"I, don't want a lot for Christmas..."
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Re: Top 5 Did I Do That? Top 5 Triumphant (100,788) (100,794) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 22 July 2022; 12:51)
Interesting topic. Ok, here it goes.

Did I Do That? (In no particular order.)

5. VOL/Infinity (Live with Kelly and Michael)
4. SHOF speech
3. Mariah's World
2. TRL 2001
1. Save The Day

Triumphant

5. Joy To The World (St. John's The Divine 1994)
4. Billboard Icon acceptance speech (2022)
3. If It's Over (Grammy Awards 1992)
2. My All (SNL) and Butterfly (Letterman)
1. WBT/Fly Like A Bird (Grammys 2005)
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Re: Thoughts: which album do you think MC dislikes (100,792) (100,793) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 22 July 2022; 12:40)
100% agree with you. Butterfly is Mariah's crowning achievement. But Daydream was the beginning of that journey MC took to get to Butterfly. That's why I don't see her disliking the album as Terna suggested. I know where I was too when I first discovered MC: my living room and Hero began to play. My life would never be the same, lol. That voice. But I digress. It's why I don't bash MB too hard. That was my first album I bought. But MB was the height of Tommy's pursuit of pop Mariah whereas Daydream began that decent off the top of the pop hill into R&B where MC so desperately wanted to live.
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Re: Thoughts: which album do you think MC dislikes (100,785) (100,789) by Stacey from USA
(Friday 22 July 2022; 01:33)
I don't think MC sees Daydream the way you do. The ballads lean heavy toward R&B while Music Box leans pop. Now I say any criticism of Music Box with a huge grain of salt. MB was the first album I bought. Hero was the first song of Mariah's I heard on TV when, you know, music channels actually played music videos, lol. So I do have a soft spot for MB. Go find Mariah's appearance on Carpool Karaoke and listen to the first two songs James Cordon plays.

Daydream forever.
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Re: Thoughts: which album do you think MC dislikes (100,772) (100,777) by Stacey from USA
(Tuesday 19 July 2022; 20:58)
Wait, wait, wait, I got to defend my baby, Daydream. That album was the beginning of Mariah spreading her wings. Not just Fantasy, ABMB, but MC loves UTS and the amazing record OSD held. I can see Forever, When I Saw You being a bit schmaltzy but even those songs lean hard toward R&B compared to songs from Music Box. Honestly take your post and replace Daydream with Music Box and then I think you're onto something. But not with Daydream.
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Re: Libra (100,762) (100,763) by Stacey from USA
(Sunday 17 July 2022; 23:35)
Very nice. Libras rule.
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Re: Narada Michael Walden (100,745) (100,752) by Stacey from USA
(Sunday 17 July 2022; 02:25)
I know IDWC was not a favorite of MC. I'm glad she sung it again for her Vegas residency. It has such a haunting melody. It's a favorite ballad of mine.

All the magic's gone, just a shadow of a memory
Something just went wrong.
We can't go on make believing, on make believing
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