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About Stacey from USA: Been a fan since 1993. Favorite albums include Daydream, TEOM, and Music Box. I love a good discussion, but won't stand for hateful comments because we disagree. I am too old to deal with drama and so are you. Keep it real with me and we'll have some fun. Peace.

Random thoughts about aging and beauty (110,326) by Stacey from USA Are these the appropriate talking points I should use? (Tuesday 5 August 2025; 01:11) this is a reply to message 110,323

Random thoughts about aging and beauty (110,323) by Edward from USA The things I see posted on this site daily make me want to scream into a pillow, but I hold back, because I just know some of you would turn around and say I'm being dramatic from watching too many Latin soap operas. Some of you speak with so much confidence, yet you're loud and wrong, and all I can do is sit there in stunned silence. The urge to jump in and reprimand a few of you is very real, but instead, I just let a couple of dramatic tears fall and softly whisper "Cry." like it's the final scene of "Marimar", my favorite "Telenovela" from the 90s. You all really need to stop shaming Mariah. Only a handful of men, maybe ten, tops, have ever had the honor of touching her boobs, and not a single one of them was a surgeon. A woman? Maybe, but I doubt it. We've all known for decades that the iconic lift her boobs have experienced comes from industrial-strength push-up bras she's been rocking since the Rainbow era. This isn't breaking news, duh. As for her face, it moves, just not in public. She's not risking getting caught in a bad angle, so she keeps it locked in diva mode anytime there's a camera around. Remember Mariah is multiracial, that little hint of Asian in her eyes is probably some distant Latin ancestor or something, we do have a little Asian ancestry in Latin America too. In short, she hasn't had any work done. That's just what jealousy looks like from the outside. (Monday 4 August 2025; 18:25)

Stop the nonsense (110,269) by Stacey from USA Hey man, we have the OG fans here and the wannabe OG fan (aka me). It's the world that is missing out on all these fabulous people. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 19:17) this is a reply to message 110,266

Stop the nonsense (110,266) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if anyone outside this forum know we exist, really. And what percentage of the world are we? Some medieval small village I tell you. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:39)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,196) by Stacey from USA Agree BFF. Music transcends race. Should we tell Darius Rucker he can't sing country because he is black? Or Eminem can't rap because he's white? Of course not. After all the nonsense last night, right before I went to sleep, I played Sugar Sweet. Like Edward, I really hope this song does well. It's got one of her better catchy hooks in a long time. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 16:57) this is a reply to message 110,191

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,191) by BFF from United States Do black artists not sing pop music? Are black and white the only types of people in the world? Last time I checked Mariah has devoted fans across many continents and of many different backgrounds other than "white" and "black". I'm not an OG fan. I became a fan in the 1997-2000 period and my first Mariah album was "Rainbow", so I thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated the way Mariah integrated hip-hop into her music. I think it worked best on songs like "The Roof" and "Crybaby" and the remixes for "My All" and "Thank God I Found You". And I also love the stuff from 1990-1996 - the ballads ("Can't Let Go"), the gospel-inflected tunes ("Any Time You Need a Friend"), the house and disco influenced uptempo songs ("Emotions", "Now that I Know", etc). Last time I checked, Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Luther Vandross, Donna Summer, and many, many other African-American/black artists have put out music that most people would categorize as "pop". Pop isn't a genre - it is shorthand for "popular" and encompasses a wide range of styles and idioms. And "pop" music isn't synonymous with "white". Country songs go to #1 on the "pop" charts. R&B and Hip-Hop songs have gone to #1 on the "pop" charts. House tracks have gone to #1 on the "pop" charts. Alternative rock songs go to #1 on the "pop" charts. In 2003, Liz Phair caught a lot of flack for "going pop" on her self-titled album, but she brilliantly pointed out that it's dishonest for recording artists (and critics) to pretend that they aren't in business when they are. Having a career as a recording artist means that you're often (out of necessity) trying to appeal to the widest possible audience - it has nothing to do with "race" and everything to do with capitalism. Sometimes you need a "pop" hit to pay your bills, get out of debt, to build your clout, etc. There's no shame in it. I actually think the main reason that Mariah began to feel the need to pander a bit was due to music critic Nelson George labelling her "a white girl trying to sing black", which is itself a racist statement because it conflates skin color with singing ability. This was a misnomer because she was already singing gospel, R&B, and house-influenced songs on the debut album in 1990 and the "Emotions" album in 1991. Last time I checked Adele is a more impressive vocalist than Janet Jackson, but this reductive thinking would have us believe that somehow "race" automatically correlates with singing ability. It doesn't. Mariah being called a "white girl trying to sing black" by music critics became such an issue that she had a press conference/sit down with many of them early on to tell them to cut it out. The reality is that Mariah never denied being mixed race, and I don't agree with the argument that Tommy tried to hide that aspect of her. Critics like Nelson George were ones who created this issue because their color struck, racialist thinking disallowed the idea that someone who looked like Mariah could sing and write so brilliantly. Sorry for getting on my soapbox, but it makes me angry that Mariah has felt pressured into pandering to this nonsense. Maybe we should stop trying to label music with such simplistic "racial" categories and just enjoy the music? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 15:21)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,175) by Stacey from USA Thanks Jaime. Oh my gosh, I messed up your name. Thanks Jamie. Good thing school starts up in a few days. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:25) this is a reply to message 110,171

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,171) by Jamie from UK I love the name Sydney. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:04)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,174) by Stacey from USA Ironically you are here too responding to my posts, lol. Imagine that. Thank you for calling me the goated lamb. My self worth is now full. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:23) this is a reply to message 110,172

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,172) by Lambi from USA I mean makes perfect sense. You're the goated lamb and you're here all day. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:10)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,169) by Stacey from USA Thanks. I appreciate it. My entire self worth hinges on what people think of me here. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:56) this is a reply to message 110,166

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,166) by Lambi from USA How rude of him. Don't worry, we will keep believing you are the goated OG lamb and definitely not a wannabe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:41)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,168) by Stacey from USA The 2006 Grammy performance was pre-recorded vocals mixed with some live parts. Next. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:54) this is a reply to message 110,161

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,161) by Terna from Nigeria Just one question, Stacey, dear. Was that 2006 Grammy performance live or lipsynched as you claimed it was? (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 06:11)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,165) by Stacey from USA I absolutely love accents. I was in line at Disney when a woman with her daughter got behind me. They were from Sydney, Australia. (I named my daughter Sydney.) We chatted and I told her she had a lovely accent. I am from Southern California. The only accent I have is how So Cal peeps tend to put "the" in front of a freeway. (Ex: You take "the" 15 to "the" 210, etc.). That's not even an accent, lol. Oh well, at least we have beaches. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 09:55) this is a reply to message 110,158

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,158) by Bobby A from United States Yes, MusicFanJ. People always point out to me my deep southern accent and I hate it. I hate the question: Where are you from? I guess that is definitely why I am able to detect an individual's accent from New York, Boston, Chicago, East Tennessee or Europe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:10)

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,162) by Stacey from USA Agree. I can't shout loud enough how much I love that look. She looks fierce, a force to be reckoned with. More of that please. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 06:21) this is a reply to message 110,147

Article: The making of Mariah Carey (110,147) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands This is the kind of looks I want to see from Mariah. I love it. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 02:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,153) by Stacey from USA You are late to the party. Edward already ratted me out for being a wannabe OG. See message 109,973. "Stacey, what did we say about going off-script? You can't just go around expressing your own opinions like that, people will start thinking you're not just a mindless extension of me. Next time, wait for my email with the approved talking points. I really hate to do this publicly, but I'm afraid this calls for a light reprimand." (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 03:41) this is a reply to message 110,145

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,145) by Lambi from USA Some OG's are actually cool. Sometimes you can just tell they've been around. They're quite knowledgeable and genuinely have such a deep understanding of Mariah. I actually respect their assessments. But there's one here that just kind of says, "I'm such an OG", "we OG fans", and it's peak cringe. Reminds me of that one kid in school who still tries too hard to be cool. It's like a badge of honor they wear that nobody cares about. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 00:52)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,138) by Stacey from USA I don't wish that control on anyone. Looking In beautifully and tragically sums up Mariah's feelings about it all. I am thinking of post 96. Watch Oprah's interview in 2002 during CB promotion. She was eloquent, animated, beautiful. Same with her Rosie interviews. I don't have to look to the Tommy era when comparing with her latest Kimmel appearance. Something is off. Thank you, though for your thoughts. It's nice to have a good discussion. (Monday 28 July 2025; 17:37) this is a reply to message 110,131

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,131) by Matthew from USA Every time someone on here proclaims themselves an OG, I have to take a deep breath and proceed with caution. Mariah has stated multiple times how controlled and unhappy she was in the first several years of her career. She threw herself into her work and convinced herself this was the price she had to pay for success. Other friends like Brat even wondered "How do you live like this?" It's a little weird to see all the OG's being nostalgic for this era. The OG's say she was a proper lady in this era - classy, dignified, pristine, graceful, and her true authentic self. They mourn her current state, which one is left to assume is the opposite of all those adjectives. I'm not here to invalidate anyone's opinion, but I can provide another perspective that Terna expressed - we both happen to be black. In our culture Mariah is viewed as bougie and fancy. Initially we were like "Who is this white girl singing down like that? Okay Mariah, Get down with your bad self. Do your thing, girl." I don't think one culture's perspective is more important than another's, but I think we should remember to try and view the whole. I do think Mariah would be disheartened that who she is now is causing so much sadness and heartache to the OG's. But I don't think she would go back (and no shade, but I heard the Walter song and I agree with her). I think she would sadly hand y'all the Art of Letting Go record. Go to Mimi on your contacts. Press delete. End your suffering. If it's any consolation, the OG's can always treasure the memory of Tommy controlled Mariah, when she was being her true authentic self. (Monday 28 July 2025; 13:59)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,123) by Stacey from USA I should feel ashamed, but I don't. I think us silly and dumb OG fans only want the best for MC. Two more dollars in my pocket. (Monday 28 July 2025; 07:45) this is a reply to message 110,113

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,113) by Terna from Nigeria Someone needed to say it, thank you for this post. I too ain't the same person from when I started out being a fan in my teenage years, somehow they expect Mariah to remain the same. However, everything she is today, she's accomplished 35+ years in this music industry that we all know chews them up and spits them out (need I call names?) is because she's grounded in Christ first of all, and she follows her heart, that's still the same Mariah Carey I see today, it hasn't ever changed. And honestly that's what has preserved her charm, kept her relevant and intriguing 35 years later - she still has her light and gift in tact. Mariah if I'm not mistaken is the only artist who debuted in 1990 still on the charts today. What won't Whitney Houston fans give just to have one more era and album (shot vocals and all), tour from her. Something that will never happen, ever again. You silly fans here complain about the dumbest stuff, all the time. I thought Andrew was the poison here, but even as he's long gone, some new [censored] here have risen up to take his place. You should be quite ashamed of yourselves. (Monday 28 July 2025; 00:19)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,122) by Stacey from USA Seriously Jaime, you nailed it. Well put. (Monday 28 July 2025; 07:41) this is a reply to message 110,109

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,109) by Jamie from UK I'm under no illusion over 30 years has past, even Mariah who refuses to acknowledge time (for some weird reason) will know that over 30 years has past. Let me put it this way, if Mariah was to hold her public image in some kind of way that resembles the early days I believe she would have more respect now and be more popular at this point. I'm not saying she should be skipping through fields in a plaid shirt and denim shorts (however cool that was) she's not a young girl anymore. But how I do feel she should be carrying herself is just like when she sang "With you I'm born again" in 2005. There she was a grown woman but with grace, she was articulate and professional. And way more stage presence that she has today. None of us are saying to go back 30 years, would be great if we could but what I and many others are saying is when she tries too much and cheapens herself it doesn't work. Mariah at this point in her career should be like that 2005 stage performance, balanced, elegant, professional, coherent and drawing the audience in. We all love Mariah and only want the best for her and know she's capable of so much more without the whole diva pretense. Ps. I never said she wasn't still a nice person. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 10:21)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,104) by Stacey from USA Excellent post as well. Agree 100%. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 02:33) this is a reply to message 110,090

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,090) by MusicfanJ from Germany Jamie, Edward I absolutely feel the same about Mariah. It's good to know some longtime fans also miss the authentic, lovely Mariah. I miss the natural Mariah. "She was sexy without even trying, and that voice was just next level. That combo is what made her so special." So true, that was something beside her voice that made her so unique, so loveable and even relateable. For me this will always be the real Mariah. Of course we all change a bit with age, but most people stay indeed the same just wiser and older with luck. I do wonder what made her change so much too? Sometimes it feels like she hides the humble Mariah inside. I understand it can be a shield or something but it must be more than that. The "Joy to the world video" is one of my favourites. Not because it's so good, no story I know, but just seeing an already global superstar, having so much fun, looking so carefree, a diva but with a big heart and humour, Mariah was never more beautiful, more adorable than when she's "not trying". (Saturday 26 July 2025; 13:29)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,103) by Stacey from USA Well said Jaime, Bill, and Edward. People say we OG fans constantly live in the past. Well, I wonder why. For all the reasons you guys stated. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 02:31) this is a reply to message 110,096

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,096) by Bill from the UK Jamie thank you for putting so eloquently my exact thoughts. I think only the OG fans can relate to what you say, because we were there living those great moments live at the time. I don't think people get just how special she was and how she drew so many people to her by being an incredible talent, humble, and her good fortune of being naturally photogenic. Talk about hitting a jackpot. But then to see it descend year by year is so heartbreaking. Not just the voice, but the grace, the elegance, the class, the poise... sigh. Right now you're gone, you just vanished away. But I'll never leave you behind. No, I'll never forget you. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 17:33)

I'ma keep it sweet (110,083) by Stacey from USA Same. Andrew never bothered me. He threw some drama toward me, but I'd just shake it off as recent experience shows. I liked how he kept real and got all the yass queens all flustered, lol. Very entertaining, lol. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 04:46) this is a reply to message 110,081

I'ma keep it sweet (110,081) by Edward from USA I like the "Sugar Sweet", but I don't think the other two girls were really necessary. The chorus is super catchy, I've caught myself humming it without even thinking. I was hoping for at least a few of those signature Mariah high notes sprinkled in, just to give it more of her touch. As for the charts, I really hope it picks up on streaming. "Sugar Sweet" definitely feels like a step in the right direction. (Saturday 26 July 2025; 02:52)

Here For It All (110,061) by Stacey from USA I was thinking of a time where I was facing a lot of personal struggles. During those moments, I went to see MC on the final night of the CB tour. I sat 15 rows back and she sang CTTA. Before that night, the song was just a song to me. I had never felt a connection to the song. But afterwards, as with Looking In, CTTA became an anthem to me. Go listen to it today. Oh, they, they can do anything they want to you If you let them in, but they won't ever win If you cling to your pride and just push them aside See, I, I have learned there's an inner peace I own Something in my soul that they cannot possess So I won't be afraid and the darkness will fade 'Cause there's There's a light in me That shines brightly Yes, they can try But they can't take that away from me (Friday 25 July 2025; 17:51) this is a reply to message 110,026

Here For It All (110,026) by Stacey from USA I am here for TEOM. I wasn't a huge fan of ILT at first. It took time for the song to grow on me. It's a special occasion Mimi's emancipation A cause for celebration I ain't gonna let nobody's drama bother me Cause it's my night No stress, no fights I'm leavin' it all behind No tears, no time to cry Just making the most of life (Friday 25 July 2025; 08:06)

Jimmy Kimmel (110,058) by Stacey from USA Agree. Not her best look. Glad I'm not the only one who thought the whole interview with Fortune was cringe. No chemistry between the two. As for SS, it's a nice bop. Is it going to blow up the charts, set the world on fire? Probably not. But I ain't mad at it. (Friday 25 July 2025; 17:42) this is a reply to message 110,041

Jimmy Kimmel (110,041) by Shezz from Pk It was the twins out leopard print dress. Then the styling just took it over the edge. A misstep after some pretty good looks the last couple of months. (Friday 25 July 2025; 13:12)

Sugar sounds sweet (110,029) by Stacey from USA SS sounds like a complete song whereas TD felt like it was missing an ending. I thought Shenseea and Kehlani's parts were nicely mixed throughout the song with Mariah. I love the sample of ILT. I hope the video is MC late at night having flashbacks of her guy. That's the vibe the song is giving me. Any guesses about who the song is about? The first two guesses don't count, lol. Like ILT, I feel this song will grow on me. (Friday 25 July 2025; 08:27)

Here For It All (110,026) by Stacey from USA I am here for TEOM. I wasn't a huge fan of ILT at first. It took time for the song to grow on me. It's a special occasion Mimi's emancipation A cause for celebration I ain't gonna let nobody's drama bother me Cause it's my night No stress, no fights I'm leavin' it all behind No tears, no time to cry Just making the most of life (Friday 25 July 2025; 08:06) this is a reply to message 110,017

Here For It All (110,017) by Bobby A from United States No maam, I never skipped a single track on TEOM. MC sequenced the heck out of TEOM perfectly. I think that is what she has done for HIFA. I have already analyzed the potential genre of the songs which we don't know the titles of yet. 1. The Stereotypes produced song is an uptempo jam. 2. Here For It All ft. Anderson .Paak 3. Type Dangerous positioned perfectly here so the album can start paying homage to every era of MC's career. 4. Sugar Sweet ft. Shenseea and Kehlani 5. The Roget Chahayed song is an uptempo jam. 6. The Daniel Moore produced song is a ballad. 7. The Harv produced song is a midtempo jam. 8. The Bongo ByTheWay song is definitely midtempo or a ballad. 9. The Paul McCartney and Linda McCartney song could be Dear Boy or My Love or Live and Let Die. 10. The Clark Sisters gospel song is described by Nostradamus on X as Amazing Grace and Ain't No Way. 11. This Daniel Moore produced song has explicit lyrics. So possibly it could be Clown 2.0 or Did I Do That? 2.0. 12. Hoping for that Bryson Tiller feature on the Amazon Exclusive CD. (Friday 25 July 2025; 01:46)

Webmaster request (110,012) by Stacey from USA Seriously, right? Just come and enjoy the conversation. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 19:35) this is a reply to message 110,008

Webmaster request (110,008) by Bill from the UK As the Reprimandee I feel it's my duty to wade in at this point and, once again, ask that you chill. Easy to remember. Rhymes with Bill. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 17:07)

Webmaster request (110,007) by Stacey from USA I'll have fun but only on one condition: if you read what you wrote and apply it too. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 16:49) this is a reply to message 110,006

Webmaster request (110,006) by Libra Lamb from USA [censored] "Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance." (Plato) This quote suggests that opinions are a state of understanding that falls between true knowledge and complete ignorance. It implies that while opinions can be a step up from not knowing anything, they are not a reliable form of knowledge in themselves. Have fun with that. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 16:31)

I just love finding new places to wear diamonds (110,004) by Stacey from USA Me too. I grew up on old movies. My dad played them all the time. Names like Jack Lemmon, Rock Hudson, Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant, Clark Gable were staples in my house. Let's not forget the master of suspense: Alfred Hitchcock. Wait Until Dark is a classic. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 16:07) this is a reply to message 109,999

I just love finding new places to wear diamonds (109,999) by Dove from United States I love watching old movies too. It's the closest thing to a time machine. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 14:37)

Webmaster request (110,003) by Stacey from USA "Folks just need to stop feeling like it's their duty to set others straight, to reprimand" is not a direct "hit" on you. It's not even an jnsult. Good grief, lol. But rather a general statement toward all those in the 20+ years I've been posting here who act like that. But you keep thinking you are right about me fooling people all these years into thinking I'm a saint. It's laughable to make judgements about someone you've never met in real life. But you keep thinking you are right about me. My posts and overall conduct the past 20 years say otherwise. But keep on thinking you are right. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 16:02) this is a reply to message 109,990

Webmaster request (109,990) by Lambi from USA I'm glad you noticed. There's a reason for that insult. "Folks just need to stop feeling like it's their duty to set others straight, to reprimand" is direct hit on me from Stacey. Then she pretends to be well-meaning right after the diss. The one you're defending actually engages on pretending to be a saint, so it turns out you actually got fooled. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 11:14)

New snippet (109,980) by Stacey from USA I've seen single covers for SS that have the "explicit content" warning on them. *sigh* I've never been a fan of cuss words in music. To me it adds nothing to the song. Up until a few years ago, I was always grateful MC stayed away from that trend. Now f-words are flying all over the place. End of rant, lol. (Thursday 24 July 2025; 06:19) this is a reply to message 109,786

New snippet (109,786) by MusicfanJ from Germany Absolutely. "It's us, the middle aged fans, that listen to her music, and I find those kind of lyrics a little immature and not artistically deep or clever." I also don't like the "three h. a. h". It ruins the song a bit. It sounds vulgar, as a teen I wouldn't care but I prefer lyrics without that. I enjoy the remixes, but I hope the next song has more mature lyrics. I'm tired of swear words in music. I don't need it, trend or not. (Thursday 17 July 2025; 13:35)

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