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Interesting video (114,233) by jaker20 from US Mariah can actually do three movies, one is about the butterfly storyline which we've heard many times but that's really the theme of her music in the 90s so it's a given. Obviously Motorolla [sic] is going to be in it a lot, which would turn the movie into damsel in distress What's Love Got To Do With It type but with more hit songs. If there's going to be a movie about Mariah's actual life story, where she doesn't reveal much about her life (like the movie Michael which is same old same old), but it has good music that people know, this is the one. I just don't know if people would be interested. Another is an expected Christmas lady movie which is likely more palatable to the public because that's what everyone knows her now. The song itself has a love story angle in it, so that would make for a perfect Christmas film to counter program all the big blockbusters in December. But this type of movie can easily turn to cringe and sideways if not done right. Look at all the animated AIWFC themed movies she's been doing in the past 10 years, they're really not that good, and does not give the song justice. Last, if I'm to make a decent real movie about Mariah that is actually about her and a story that I wish she's actually willing to open, not the ones that she's just willing to admit, is about her being biracial. Yes I know she's revealed her biracial struggles already, I just don't think that its the full story. She had identity struggles early in her life from her book, and to me that's the compelling story that Mariah can go deeper, that she needs to tell more about and many can likely relate because I think I'm not that interested in hearing another story about Motorolla [sic]. (Sunday 19 July 2026; 03:00) this is a reply to message 114,225

Interesting video (114,225) by Bobby A from United States I wonder if MC will ever allow her life story from 1989-1998 to be made into a movie. I am curious about those first 9 years of her career and her marriage to Tommy. She really did have a Princess Di wedding that fell apart so quickly during the course of two eras. Movie titles like The Songbird Supreme or Dear Mariah Carey would totally capture the essence of those years. I wonder what Tommy thinks of the Mariah Carey he sees on TV now. Anyhow I do think he geniunely loved MC and Emilio Estefan said that Tommy was devasted about the break up of their marriage. (Saturday 18 July 2026; 05:38)

Interesting video (114,231) by jaker20 from US I didn't create an argument. You came out of the gate swinging and now you're getting censored, chill I'm just following what you started. You're literally on a website that respect attribution of sources because that's how the internet is supposed to be, not even making money off Mariah, but diligently doing something because of love for her. And here you are promoting AI, deepfakes, automation and scraping and stealing sources that even you said is easy to find on the internet, and automating them into sensationalism and playing with YouTube algorithm to earn money from materials they didn't even create. And then you come back here from chatgpt to lay out and promote the process as some kind hard work that we should admire, because you know "that's how the internet works." Mama you are lost my loves what you doing. (Sunday 19 July 2026; 02:45) this is a reply to message 114,224

Interesting video (114,224) by Lambi from USA Firstly, I didn't even acknowledge that you're correct, because it's not a text-to-speech video. I clearly disagreed. There are editing platforms with AI tools that can sequence footage, automate cuts, and speed up post-production. This isn't that. If this were AI auto story generation, the output would be inconsistent, contextually inaccurate, and dizzying. Instead, there's a clear pre-written monologue carried by a real human voice, not a synthetic TTS engine. The visuals track the narration with a level of precision that strongly indicates manual clip stitching and editing. There's virtually no evidentiary trace of automated story generation. My point was broader than this specific video. It's entirely possible to produce an in-depth video essay while still using modern tools to streamline workflow and get your work out. If you want to be effective, you need to know how to scale an online business. Using technology in production is obviously not the same thing as outsourcing authorship or narration. You're conflating fundamentally different processes, which makes your arguments invalid from the start. [censored] (Saturday 18 July 2026; 04:35)

Interesting video (114,222) by jaker20 from US With every post you're sounding more and more clueless. I get it, I had to explain it slowly to my mom too. Now you're saying that's how the internet works, automation. Just a prior post you said he did extensive research. Make up your mind. These content are scraped online fed to AI automation ok, wrapped into AI narration and deepfake thumbnail and sensational headline ok. And yes that is literally the point, to create them with little effort. see, no buzzword. At least you agree it is automated. Just a prior post you said he went in-depth and put effort into research. People like you is why these AI content are thriving. I explained it to my mom and how it's hurting the creative industry and he got it in 5 minutes. But you're just going on contracting yourself. (Saturday 18 July 2026; 02:36) this is a reply to message 114,215

Interesting video (114,215) by Lambi from USA I don't know. Maybe the fact that he took the time to write a very honest, detailed monologue that voiced what a lot of lambs have been feeling lately, and backed it up with accurate video evidence? Every video editing software has AI features built in to improve workflow and increase productivity, and every video is going to get routed through some kind of algorithm. That's literally how the internet and modern platforms work. That's how the tech ecosystem works, and it's how online business scales, so you're not exactly making a very compelling case here. I think the problem is that you don't really think through your words. You use a few buzzwords like "AI" and "algorithm", assume they prove a point (they don't), and then hit submit. (Friday 17 July 2026; 19:47)

Interesting video (114,211) by jaker20 from US And stop giving so much value and supporting these types of AI generated content, they are all stolen content scraped off the internet. They hurt real creatives. (Friday 17 July 2026; 14:35) this is a reply to message 114,196

Interesting video (114,196) by nancy from Switzerland Celine has made it very clear and has shown a very personal, unglamourous aspect of her life. And many people appreciate this a lot. MC wants to keep it private more or less. That's her choice. When she had her breakdown in 2001 the people criticized her even more. You always encounter people who understand and some who don't. The difference between Madonna and MC: Madonna has a very strong character. That allows her to cope better with difficult situations in life. In my eyes she is way more self confident (or at least in public). She is not afraid to work with much younger people and don't see them as a rival or as a threat. Madonna lost her mother at a young age. But she has siblings who were there for her. Mariah had a toxic family (mother, sister and brother). She never had stability. Tommy was a toxic person too. And Nick was also not mature enough mentally. The speculations are getting bigger. For now let's enjoy Daydream. I wish she finds peace. She does not deserve this. (Thursday 16 July 2026; 14:56)

Interesting video (114,210) by jaker20 from US More like in-depth nonesense because as you said yourself those clips clips have been around, nothing new there, so what type of research are you even going on about. These types of AI generated content with sensational headlines stretched to 30 minutes to play with YT algo has been going around in YouTube for a couple of years now lol. (Friday 17 July 2026; 14:25) this is a reply to message 114,208

Interesting video (114,208) by Lambi from USA The cadence and intonation are very much that of a real human voice. The video essay is very clearly an organic effort. Reducing it to "AI-generated" is a bit out of touch. He absolutely did his research. We should be thankful that somebody finally went in-depth and brought up the elephant in the room. We can sense truth when it's being told, and this guy is doing the Lord's work. Look at the comments and see how the public is receiving it. We all feel a collective concern. Literally not one person bothered to critique how the video is edited and produced. (Friday 17 July 2026; 12:51)

Interesting video (114,201) by jaker20 from US That is text-to-speech AI model generated narration, and the thumbnail is deepfake, and the structure of the video intentionally stretching it to 30 minutes to play with YouTube's algorithm, so even though the clips are real, I'd file them under AI slop to avoid. (Friday 17 July 2026; 04:16) this is a reply to message 114,200

Interesting video (114,200) by Lambi from USA Did we watch the same video? None of those clips are AI-generated. AI-generated means something that didn't exist before and was created out of thin air. Can you point to the specific clip by minute and second that you're referring to? The videos that lamb compiled have been around for as long as I can remember, they are real footages. Or do you just not know what AI means? (Thursday 16 July 2026; 22:30)

Interesting video (114,195) by jaker20 from US First of all, that is an AI generated video. They stretch a "Mariah has bipolar" into a 30 minute video because that is how they make money. If you hear that annoying narrator's voice, close the video, because you just wasted 30 minutes of your day over a bunch of redundant crap of everything bad about Mariah into 30 minutes. But... the thought in it is true. There is definitely something wrong with her, and we already have been talking about that for years now. For me, it's almost like she has the same problem as Celine, but in a milder way. Her physicality has declined significantly, it's almost like she's a disabled senior citizen now. And she's literally masking that with all the makeup and beauty facade. I also think her weight cycling, and likely ozempic and her bipolar meds is making her like that. A lot of these ozempic girlies are looking a bit like zombies. It's amazing that Madonna is outlasting Mariah in almost every aspect: physicality, artistry, creativity, and just general well-being. I hope she figures it out for her own sake. I want to add that having a deadbeat ex-husband didn't help. So she's raising the twins on her own. And she had to deal with her issues. The twins don't seem to be doing anything quite meaningful in their lives, and are not in school. This is all going to come back to her when she is much older, and everything she ever worked for will be gone including her legacy because no one will take care of them and her later on. And then she has a long list of employees and sycophants that also relies on her, not really about her own well-being. I think losing Patricia was a huge blow for her mental health, in the last 10-15 years when Patricia's health started declining and Mariah has lost her anchor in life. (Thursday 16 July 2026; 14:03) this is a reply to message 114,180

Interesting video (114,180) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain What do you think about this? It seems kind of realistic, at least, as far as the information that I've heard or seen throughout the years. (Wednesday 15 July 2026; 12:47)

MC songwriting (113,980) by jaker20 from US I think she opened up with Here for It All (the song), but the rest of the album have generic lyrics because she doesn't want to open up. She can't keep in singing about things from 30 years ago, which is her way of hiding. Why can't she write about motherhood, about the hardships of being alone without partner, about aging, about being viewed differently by the public. It would her to sing some lines and thoughts in The Meaning of Mariah. But I think she is scared. Frankly it's easier to write experiences for a book matter-of-factly, than put emotions into those words through a song, because she is an artist. (Monday 15 June 2026; 02:47) this is a reply to message 113,976

MC songwriting (113,976) by nancy from Switzerland The best songwriting is in the album [Butterfly]. Like other artists too then she started to mention brands like [Harry Winston] or Balenciaga etc. But in the latest album she has good lyrics too.Which are deep and personal songs. But fortunately she does not swear too much like other artist do. What makes it more classy and elegant. (Sunday 14 June 2026; 17:59)

It's a wrap (113,979) by jaker20 from US I think her songwriting or lack thereof is directly related to her voice. Her voice is her instrument, she used to hum all the time to create lyrics in her mind. And when she couldn't get the notes, her imagination go down with it. When she's singing My All, that is real extreme passion in her. I'll keep it PG but that's the time she's experiencing real deep emotions and desires and passion and its magic because the feeling matches the lyrics perfectly. They are connected. That is why I want her to keep writing, so that she would continue humming and singing. It's a muscle that needs exercise. (Monday 15 June 2026; 02:40) this is a reply to message 113,971

It's a wrap (113,971) by Lambi from USA She's definitely still one hell of a writer though. With You proves that. And if you took away some of the production and the state of her voice, Cry, HFIA, and NII were pretty stellar work. But fair, meds absolutely affect your creative process. She still has her writing chops, but because of this seemingly declining health she's got going on, it just takes longer. Another thing I noticed is that Mariah has always said she likes to go on walks for ideas to come and marinate. It's also a way for creatives to work through a mental block. She can't even walk now. (Sunday 14 June 2026; 08:15)

Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (113,960) by jaker20 from US It's crazy that Mariah was first recognized by Songwriter Hall of Fame first, when she's not even writing anything anymore. Her latest album took maybe 10 years to write, and I love the album and all, but that does really warrant a Hall of Fame award? Mariah is a great writer, written so many great songs, and from the very beginning of her career she wanted to be known for that, not just her voice, because that's what really separates her from the great divas. And she never stopped talking about how she writes constantly and it's a passion of hers and all. But she's not even writing anymore. She's not written a great song for other artists, which is really the mark of a great writer, someone who can write for others. This is the part of her career that is so lacking. Mariah, if you want to be known for being a great writer, then write. (Friday 12 June 2026; 17:55)

Death Becomes Her (113,929) by jaker20 from US Where have you been in the last 25 years. That ship sailed right around Rainbow, unless you think her chest is natural. She's already morphed into a Pamela Anderson (the 90s version) right after Rainbow, which then morphed into Barbie-Playboy Bunny after the success of TEOM. She usually looked great and natural, and helped by good genes too I guess. But in bad lighting and makeup, which is the case with white dress ensemble, you can tell. (Sunday 7 June 2026; 05:07) this is a reply to message 113,926

Death Becomes Her (113,926) by TJ from Norway Looking at those pictures of MC in the white dress, makes me a little sad. When I was younger, I hoped that she would age with grace and not fall into this plastic fantastic world of celebrities. Yes, she looks "youthful", but it is not her face anymore. It's like looking at a completely different person, when you compare her 1992 face and now. It looks sad, hurt and soulless. Anyone seen the movie Death Becomes Her? (Saturday 6 June 2026; 09:02)

Mariah cover songs (113,819) by jaker20 from US Absolutely embarrassing. I can't imagine what George Michael was thinking, since he was still with us at the time of its release. The fan made duet is infinitely better, and could actually have been a minor hit for her. A duet with an artist that she share a lot of history with (considering their history with Sony), that would have been a great opportunity. She really needs to stop attempting to scream her records. No one cares about diva vocals in 2026 unless she's auditioning for The Voice. It's all about the lyrics, the beats, the ideas, and hopefully she still has a few left in those categories. (Friday 15 May 2026; 00:27) this is a reply to message 113,814

Mariah cover songs (113,814) by Edward from USA Her Minnie Mouse on helium version of "One More Try" was truly horrendous, in my humble opinion. She really shouldn't have gone anywhere near that song after 2012. It was always one of those songs I dreamed of her covering. I'd even get annoyed just imagining her cutting it down to some rushed 3.5min version. So when the tracklist leaked and I saw she kept the full length intact, I was actually excited. Then release day came and... I was shocked, like, what the heck did you do? For the first time ever, I genuinely felt like she took a classic and completely butchered it. Somebody on YouTube mixed her version with George Michael's original vocals and turned it into a duet that's way more passable. (Thursday 14 May 2026; 17:19)

Mariah cover songs (113,818) by jaker20 from US I'd put My Love higher, it's one of her best covers. And Mariah needs to be convinced that this is the direction she should be taking: understated vocals, calm, relaxed, but still playful and easy to listen to. (Friday 15 May 2026; 00:17) this is a reply to message 113,813

Mariah cover songs (113,813) by MusicfanJ from Germany Mariah's cover songs are the best. I love them all (except number 23), so here's the list. 1. Without you 2. My prayer 3. I'll be there 4. Bringin' on the heartbreak 5. Open arms 6. Endless love 7. Out here on my own 8. The beautiful ones 9. You and I (live) 10. Sweetheart 11. Just be good to me (live) 12. I still believe 13. Against all odds 14. Help me make it through the night 15. My love 16. Do You Know Where You're Going To 17. Didn't Mean to Turn You On 18. Last Night a DJ Saved My Life 19. If you only knew (live) 20. Lullaby of Birdland (live) 21. With you I'm born again (live) 22. Want to know what love is 23. One more try (Thursday 14 May 2026; 14:59)

MOAIA (113,352) by jaker20 from US MOAIA just crossed 1B streams, beating a lot of her earlier albums, proving again that it's a modern gem. I am convinced that if they released Angels Advocate, which is clearly done, would have been a perfect crossover era for her from digital to streaming, probably bigger than TEOM. Her catalog right now is lacking a non-Christmas classic for the streaming era and Angels Advocate would have fit the bill. (Monday 2 March 2026; 00:47)

Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,351) by jaker20 from US For me, it's not even her voice. It is her. I can't really elaborate because it can be viewed as cruel. But the mind is just not there and the body follows. She hasn't been an active type anyway and it gets worse fast with her age. I don't even care if she's lipping. Because she used to be at least bubbly, animated, doing her Mariah hands, sidestepping. This is just 5 years ago. But now, that look on her eyes on interviews and performances is disturbing. She booked the Olympics more than a month in advance, and she read the lyrics on a teleprompter. I'm guessing she tried but couldn't even naturally lip it. Hence the darting eyes, which many attribute to sadness, but I think it's because she's reading the lyrics. Granted it's in Italian, but those are the same eyes when she had with Play That Song on Fallon. It's her own song and she looks to be reading the lyrics. I was annoyed, but I don't know if she tried but is dealing with something. Unless something is done with her physicality, she's better off just recording and stop performing. She can collaborate in the studio, and let the song do its thing. Even Whitney had a hit with Higher Love recently and she's no longer with us. Streaming era works that way. Or just simply enjoy her next chapter, like write and produce for other artists and I'd be happy for Mariah watch her juniors succeed. (Monday 2 March 2026; 00:34) this is a reply to message 113,341

Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,341) by Jamie from UK Yeah Believe was an anthem at the time, still is. Plus Cher's voice was still there auto tuned but still strong and relatable. Unfortunately Mariah's voice isn't, it's weak and fractured. Unless you're a fan like us it's not really relatable to the general public. It's not gonna get anyone's attention like it used too. I showed my mum the Olympic performance and she said she needs to bow out gracefully. This was hard to hear but sometimes I think she's probably right. As fans we're giving Mariah the benefit of the doubt with her performances and lack lustre voice as we want to still believe in her but I'm coming to the opinion that maybe it is time. Unless something can be done to both her vocals and herself, I can't see her having a hit again. (Saturday 28 February 2026; 13:11)

Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,349) by jaker20 from US Probably not. She has an image problem that will not go away no matter how great a song is. It's like bubblegum stuck on her shoes that will follow her everywhere. That's likely why she's having difficulty getting collabs from modern and younger artists because she's an image liability, when you see Mariah it conjures images of Christmas trees. Ariana only collabed with her because she's a true lamb and she gained nothing out of it. Probably even hurt Ariana's song, bless Ariana. (Sunday 1 March 2026; 23:10) this is a reply to message 113,324

Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,324) by Lainsky from Philippines Do you think "My Love" will go to No. 1 in the UK, at least, if she releases it? (Tuesday 24 February 2026; 15:36)

Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,315) by jaker20 from US Mariah is not in the stage of her career where she should be singing this type of songs anymore. She is not cool and she can't vibe with the beat. It's a great cool song, and if it's released by Ariana or Taylor, it would be a hit. The hype was there until she performed it on BET Awards, and the public saw that she can barely walk, and so the song tanked. It's a performance song, and she needs help to walk. There is a disconnect between her and what lambs want her to do. If she wants to release a modern song like Type Dangerous, maybe it's better if they release a really great video and then hide her from the public. It's the same situation with Sugar Sweet. If that song is released by someone else, it would be a hit because it's a great song. But the supposed video of it, it's the same touching her hair and hips moves. Well I have no words how bad it is. How do you craft a great song and throw it away like that is the current state of Mariah's career. So Mariah 2026 problem is not the song, and not even her voice. The problem is her, she doesn't know how to perform these types of songs anymore. She cannot be directed, not choreographed. I think it's time Mariah and lambs accept the fact that she should only release songs that matches her current personality and her performance level. It's sad when lambs post here that they listen to AI Mariah. They are imagining a Mariah of the good old days on her current songs which is some mental acrobatics. That's just how bad her situation is, and just a bad way to listen to music in general. They'd rather listen to Mariah sounding like a chipmunk (frankly that's how AI sounds to me in general), that is not her, than accept her current state. Equally sadder is suggesting a nodules operations, another lamb fanfic that will somehow turn back the clock. For me My Love is her current state. It does not fit on the radio nor the streaming hits right now, but its authentic to her current voice and personality. And I'm sure she can at least perform that kind of song live. Think 70s Carpenters, understated, standard, mature, dare I say: basic. That's her in 2026 and the next few years. She's not a popstar anymore nor a vocal diva anymore and the first step is accepting it. Also, to add: everyone was excited about Nothing Is Impossible, then all the excitement went away after she performed it at the Olympics. Her performance almost always backfires on her own songs. That's what happened with #Beautiful, and that's the state of her new songs over the past 15 years if you think about it. At least on her non-Christmas songs. Thankfully the legacy of those classics is so strong she herself can't ruin them anymore when she performs them. (Monday 23 February 2026; 03:38) this is a reply to message 113,314

Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,314) by Bobby A from United States Type Dangerous' intro beat is sick with a clever hip hop sample. However, the beat for the lyrics and chorus is underwhelming. The minimalist production for the sassier lyrics take center stage and that was a bad production choice. I have to say Type Dangerous is MC's weakest first single ever. Through the Rain is her second weakest single. I hope MC can create something like Honey or Loverboy for MC17. (Monday 23 February 2026; 01:50)

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,282) by jaker20 from US That's a little too strong. Maybe she's had a lot done on her face, but nothing extreme like other artists. Even now in her 50s, she looks naturally beautiful. Now about her breasts, that's another story. (Thursday 19 February 2026; 03:47) this is a reply to message 113,281

That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,281) by Jamie from UK That doesn't surprise me, her voice started changing during [Daydream] which is when I suspect she had her first rhinoplasty. Vanity can be the devil sometimes, a bit of Botox here and there and skin treatments are fine but there was nothing wrong with her face and features before she started messing with it. (Wednesday 18 February 2026; 23:11)

Nodules (113,249) by jaker20 from US "I just don't understand why she didn't turn to write and produce for other artists. It could have been a second career. Too bad." She should have done it a long time ago, like 20 years ago just after TEOM. Maybe there's truth to allegations that she's jealous of young artists, so she continued to chase her own success instead. But that's around the right time for her to learn how to write for other artists, that's what the great pop artist who were great songwriters did, Paul McCartney, Carole King, Prince, etc. Now, the older she gets, the harder it is to write for others, and harder to collaborate. Because Mariah's songwriting process is very different. She needed to collaborate with musicians who play the harmony and she writes the words in her head from that harmony. And because she doesn't know how to collaborate with other artists in that way, the songwriting got rusty as well. I think Mariah's career got lucky with AIWFCIY because she's now able to rewrite her story and legacy, including inserting "songwriter" into it, which is what sets her apart from her contemporaries. But that legacy fails on close inspection because she really doesn't know how to write for others. (Friday 13 February 2026; 20:26) this is a reply to message 113,246

Nodules (113,246) by Sasha from Nomansland I feel a bit ashamed but I enjoy much more AI version of IYF. It is what it is, everything has an end and she's done enough. I just don't understand why she didn't turn to write and produce for other artists. It could have been a second career. Too bad. (Friday 13 February 2026; 08:35)

Nothing is impossible (113,158) by jaker20 from US She looks totally out again. Like her mind is somewhere else. It's sad how Mariah never learned the art of lipping. It is so obvious that they were playbacks. Celine has been lipping for decades, and even during her residencies, and on top of that, she admitted it herself lol. But you will never know it, because she really studied that art of lipping and the performance part of it, so even if you know, you still enjoy it. Mariah is just standing on stage and literally not doing anything. (Thursday 5 February 2026; 17:12) this is a reply to message 113,156

Nothing is impossible (113,156) by Shezz from Pk The two short clips I heard of both the songs in "rehearsal" sounded amazing. I am so happy NII will get some much needed exposure though Bobby A I wouldn't get my hopes up that high. I'm glad she included the chorus, it fits the occasion well better than the verses. I'm sure the production will be beautiful and she will lip convincingly and with passion. I can't wait to see it. (Thursday 5 February 2026; 14:56)

Grammy, songwriting, Adam Lambert, etc (113,157) by jaker20 from US I thought Adam Lambert did a great rendition of Can't Let Go. I love how he twisted the lyrics a bit and his vocals are solid. He's one of the few who gave Mariah song justice. I also loved Teddy Swims and Kesha. But Lambert said something on the red carpet interview. He said "Mariah is great because she knows how to write for her voice, and that's not easy" (or something to that effect), which I thought was very true, and sweet way to recognize Mariah's talents, which we all know to be true. However, in a way that's also Mariah's weakness, because she only knows how to write for her voice, and once her voice declined, she can't capture that same songwriting sentiments. That's because she didn't try to write for other artists earlier. She should have. Lastly, it's very telling how Mariah's fanbase don't know any of these artists. Imagine not knowing Bad Bunny who only happens to be the biggest male artist right now. Absolutely embarrassing (unless, which is what I suspect, these lambs' political affiliations to be completely opposite to Mariah's but that's another topic). Now, do you have to know these new artists? No. But I can't trust an ignorant lamb's opinion on what Mariah should or shouldn't do in the current music landscape or anything for that matter. (Thursday 5 February 2026; 16:55)

Was Celine the original JLo? (112,883) by jaker20 from US This is the first time I'm reading this sort connection between My All video and MHWGO, it's just so ridiculous to think Mariah had a part in conceiving a clap back video, let alone to make fun of MHWGO. For me, after Daydream, Mariah wanted to do something in the film industry because back then artists think movies is the next step. Whitney was doing what she saw herself doing next, that is, soundtracks for films she would star in. Whitney was just coming off Waiting to Exhale, and The Preacher's Wife, and by the time Butterfly was released, she was producing Cinderella, and probably thought she could do the same. I can see Mariah being jealous of what Whitney was doing because as she wanted more control over the materials she's singing. Does she want to be part of successful soundtracks she didn't write? Sure. But that's like saying, she was jealous of Alanis Morrisette for dominating the cross-over pop-rock scene at the same time Mariah was creatively and commercially peaking. (Friday 2 January 2026; 20:04)

Was Celine the original JLo? (112,821) by jaker20 from US Absolutely not, especially at that time of her career when she was breaking out of her shell did not want a participation award. Maybe in the early 90s, but not in the Butterfly period when she was getting a lot more control. I could see Mariah doing Killing Me Softly if that was her idea even if she didn't write it. That was the direction she was taking her sound from Daydream, but got scared and went back to her safe zone in Rainbow. Now I love Lauryn, but when I listen to Ex-Factor and Tell Him I imagine Mariah doing her melisma and it it would have been magic. (Tuesday 30 December 2025; 21:41)

Love takes time (112,768) by jaker20 from US Kelly has actually covered it on her show. Not bad, she's a good vocalist, she can do the runs, peaks and lows and all the power vocals. But the quality of the midrange is so different and airiness are totally missing. That said, Love Takes Time is that song in her debut that sounds the most fresh in 2025. That's why she's been using it lately as intro on her tours. (Thursday 25 December 2025; 04:11) this is a reply to message 112,764

Love takes time (112,764) by Giovanni from USA Gave "Love takes time" a listen and it's definitely one of my favorites from Mariah. She still has the best debut album by a female in my opinion. I would love to hear Kelly Clarkson cover this song. (Wednesday 24 December 2025; 22:26)

So which is it? (112,759) by jaker20 from US I mean it's not necessarily one or the other. The charts don't matter as it used to, does not mean we can't talk about the charts. (Wednesday 24 December 2025; 17:01) this is a reply to message 112,745

So which is it? (112,745) by D from United States I mean, if we get them, of course we'll celebrate and acknowledge our wins. But if we don't, it doesn't mean MC is suddenly worthless to us. (Tuesday 23 December 2025; 12:04)

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