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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,315)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah is not in the stage of her career where she should be singing this type of songs anymore. She is not cool and she can't vibe with the beat. It's a great cool song, and if it's released by Ariana or Taylor, it would be a hit. The hype was there until she performed it on BET Awards, and the public saw that she can barely walk, and so the song tanked. It's a performance song, and she needs help to walk.
There is a disconnect between her and what lambs want her to do. If she wants to release a modern song like Type Dangerous, maybe it's better if they release a really great video and then hide her from the public.
It's the same situation with Sugar Sweet. If that song is released by someone else, it would be a hit because it's a great song. But the supposed video of it, it's the same touching her hair and hips moves. Well I have no words how bad it is. How do you craft a great song and throw it away like that is the current state of Mariah's career.
So Mariah 2026 problem is not the song, and not even her voice. The problem is her, she doesn't know how to perform these types of songs anymore. She cannot be directed, not choreographed. I think it's time Mariah and lambs accept the fact that she should only release songs that matches her current personality and her performance level.
It's sad when lambs post here that they listen to AI Mariah. They are imagining a Mariah of the good old days on her current songs which is some mental acrobatics. That's just how bad her situation is, and just a bad way to listen to music in general. They'd rather listen to Mariah sounding like a chipmunk (frankly that's how AI sounds to me in general), that is not her, than accept her current state. Equally sadder is suggesting a nodules operations, another lamb fanfic that will somehow turn back the clock.
For me My Love is her current state. It does not fit on the radio nor the streaming hits right now, but its authentic to her current voice and personality. And I'm sure she can at least perform that kind of song live. Think 70s Carpenters, understated, standard, mature, dare I say: basic.
That's her in 2026 and the next few years. She's not a popstar anymore nor a vocal diva anymore and the first step is accepting it.
Also, to add: everyone was excited about Nothing Is Impossible, then all the excitement went away after she performed it at the Olympics. Her performance almost always backfires on her own songs.
That's what happened with #Beautiful, and that's the state of her new songs over the past 15 years if you think about it. At least on her non-Christmas songs. Thankfully the legacy of those classics is so strong she herself can't ruin them anymore when she performs them.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 03:38)
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Type Dangerous and why it failed (113,314)
by Bobby A from United States
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Type Dangerous' intro beat is sick with a clever hip hop sample. However, the beat for the lyrics and chorus is underwhelming. The minimalist production for the sassier lyrics take center stage and that was a bad production choice. I have to say Type Dangerous is MC's weakest first single ever. Through the Rain is her second weakest single. I hope MC can create something like Honey or Loverboy for MC17.
(Monday 23 February 2026; 01:50)
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That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,282)
by jaker20 from US
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That's a little too strong. Maybe she's had a lot done on her face, but nothing extreme like other artists. Even now in her 50s, she looks naturally beautiful. Now about her breasts, that's another story.
(Thursday 19 February 2026; 03:47)
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That rare flower that is Mariah's voice (113,281)
by Jamie from UK
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That doesn't surprise me, her voice started changing during [Daydream] which is when I suspect she had her first rhinoplasty. Vanity can be the devil sometimes, a bit of Botox here and there and skin treatments are fine but there was nothing wrong with her face and features before she started messing with it.
(Wednesday 18 February 2026; 23:11)
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Nodules (113,249)
by jaker20 from US
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"I just don't understand why she didn't turn to write and produce for other artists. It could have been a second career. Too bad."
She should have done it a long time ago, like 20 years ago just after TEOM. Maybe there's truth to allegations that she's jealous of young artists, so she continued to chase her own success instead.
But that's around the right time for her to learn how to write for other artists, that's what the great pop artist who were great songwriters did, Paul McCartney, Carole King, Prince, etc. Now, the older she gets, the harder it is to write for others, and harder to collaborate.
Because Mariah's songwriting process is very different. She needed to collaborate with musicians who play the harmony and she writes the words in her head from that harmony. And because she doesn't know how to collaborate with other artists in that way, the songwriting got rusty as well.
I think Mariah's career got lucky with AIWFCIY because she's now able to rewrite her story and legacy, including inserting "songwriter" into it, which is what sets her apart from her contemporaries. But that legacy fails on close inspection because she really doesn't know how to write for others.
(Friday 13 February 2026; 20:26)
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Nodules (113,246)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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I feel a bit ashamed but I enjoy much more AI version of IYF. It is what it is, everything has an end and she's done enough. I just don't understand why she didn't turn to write and produce for other artists. It could have been a second career. Too bad.
(Friday 13 February 2026; 08:35)
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Nothing is impossible (113,158)
by jaker20 from US
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She looks totally out again. Like her mind is somewhere else. It's sad how Mariah never learned the art of lipping. It is so obvious that they were playbacks.
Celine has been lipping for decades, and even during her residencies, and on top of that, she admitted it herself lol. But you will never know it, because she really studied that art of lipping and the performance part of it, so even if you know, you still enjoy it.
Mariah is just standing on stage and literally not doing anything.
(Thursday 5 February 2026; 17:12)
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Nothing is impossible (113,156)
by Shezz from Pk
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The two short clips I heard of both the songs in "rehearsal" sounded amazing. I am so happy NII will get some much needed exposure though Bobby A I wouldn't get my hopes up that high. I'm glad she included the chorus, it fits the occasion well better than the verses. I'm sure the production will be beautiful and she will lip convincingly and with passion. I can't wait to see it.
(Thursday 5 February 2026; 14:56)
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Grammy, songwriting, Adam Lambert, etc (113,157)
by jaker20 from US
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I thought Adam Lambert did a great rendition of Can't Let Go. I love how he twisted the lyrics a bit and his vocals are solid. He's one of the few who gave Mariah song justice. I also loved Teddy Swims and Kesha.
But Lambert said something on the red carpet interview. He said "Mariah is great because she knows how to write for her voice, and that's not easy" (or something to that effect), which I thought was very true, and sweet way to recognize Mariah's talents, which we all know to be true.
However, in a way that's also Mariah's weakness, because she only knows how to write for her voice, and once her voice declined, she can't capture that same songwriting sentiments. That's because she didn't try to write for other artists earlier. She should have.
Lastly, it's very telling how Mariah's fanbase don't know any of these artists. Imagine not knowing Bad Bunny who only happens to be the biggest male artist right now. Absolutely embarrassing (unless, which is what I suspect, these lambs' political affiliations to be completely opposite to Mariah's but that's another topic).
Now, do you have to know these new artists? No. But I can't trust an ignorant lamb's opinion on what Mariah should or shouldn't do in the current music landscape or anything for that matter.
(Thursday 5 February 2026; 16:55)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,883)
by jaker20 from US
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This is the first time I'm reading this sort connection between My All video and MHWGO, it's just so ridiculous to think Mariah had a part in conceiving a clap back video, let alone to make fun of MHWGO.
For me, after Daydream, Mariah wanted to do something in the film industry because back then artists think movies is the next step. Whitney was doing what she saw herself doing next, that is, soundtracks for films she would star in. Whitney was just coming off Waiting to Exhale, and The Preacher's Wife, and by the time Butterfly was released, she was producing Cinderella, and probably thought she could do the same.
I can see Mariah being jealous of what Whitney was doing because as she wanted more control over the materials she's singing.
Does she want to be part of successful soundtracks she didn't write? Sure. But that's like saying, she was jealous of Alanis Morrisette for dominating the cross-over pop-rock scene at the same time Mariah was creatively and commercially peaking.
(Friday 2 January 2026; 20:04)
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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,821)
by jaker20 from US
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Absolutely not, especially at that time of her career when she was breaking out of her shell did not want a participation award. Maybe in the early 90s, but not in the Butterfly period when she was getting a lot more control.
I could see Mariah doing Killing Me Softly if that was her idea even if she didn't write it. That was the direction she was taking her sound from Daydream, but got scared and went back to her safe zone in Rainbow. Now I love Lauryn, but when I listen to Ex-Factor and Tell Him I imagine Mariah doing her melisma and it it would have been magic. 
(Tuesday 30 December 2025; 21:41)
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Love takes time (112,768)
by jaker20 from US
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Kelly has actually covered it on her show. Not bad, she's a good vocalist, she can do the runs, peaks and lows and all the power vocals. But the quality of the midrange is so different and airiness are totally missing.
That said, Love Takes Time is that song in her debut that sounds the most fresh in 2025. That's why she's been using it lately as intro on her tours.
(Thursday 25 December 2025; 04:11)
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Love takes time (112,764)
by Giovanni from USA
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Gave "Love takes time" a listen and it's definitely one of my favorites from Mariah. She still has the best debut album by a female in my opinion. I would love to hear Kelly Clarkson cover this song.
(Wednesday 24 December 2025; 22:26)
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So which is it? (112,759)
by jaker20 from US
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I mean it's not necessarily one or the other. The charts don't matter as it used to, does not mean we can't talk about the charts.
(Wednesday 24 December 2025; 17:01)
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So which is it? (112,745)
by Dove from United States
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I mean, if we get them, of course we'll celebrate and acknowledge our wins. But if we don't, it doesn't mean MC is suddenly worthless to us.
(Tuesday 23 December 2025; 12:04)
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Correction (112,735)
by jaker20 from US
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I don't see that happening, because that would be genre discrimination and would make the chart very corrupt. Christmas music is merely a genre, that would be like excluding rap or dance or disco or any other genre during those times when they were popular.
And right now, holidays is the most impactful chart season. The points are the highest of the year during this season, and listening to music is more autonomous.
This is why AIWFCIY's achievements is simply mind-blowing. It's the most organic and it's the most consumer, populist driven era, where all walks of life are represented on the charts. 
(Monday 22 December 2025; 21:53)
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Correction (112,719)
by Edward from USA
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I don't think they will, and if they did, it would be unfair. Holiday songs aren't taking up those spots by accident or because of some loophole, they're there on merit. They're the most popular songs in the country during that time, measured by the exact same rules as everything else: radio airplay, streaming, and sales.
If a song is dominating all three metrics, it deserves its position, whether it's a brand new release or a 30-year-old Christmas classic. Changing the rules just because seasonal songs are too successful would basically mean punishing records for being massively in demand. That's not how a chart that's supposed to reflect popularity should work.
(Thursday 18 December 2025; 01:32)
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I told you that Winter was coming (112,721)
by jaker20 from US
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But I also think this make the charts even more static, with little changes every week. So I can see songs staying at no.1 even longer. The top 10 was barely changing outside of the holidays. And I think the heavy weighting given to streaming is the reason.
In the last 6 years alone, nearly 10 songs stayed at no.1 for 14 weeks or so. In the last 5 years a few of those would have stayed 20+ weeks if it weren't for one week gaps. Harry Styles and that Morgan Wallen song, the title of which I don't even remember, stayed in the top 2 for 20 to 26 weeks.
So I wondering if this will cause Mariah's record to be beaten every year.
(Friday 19 December 2025; 15:22)
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I told you that Winter was coming (112,720)
by Edward from USA
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Billboard is removing YouTube streams from counting toward all charts, effective January 16, 2026. That's a massive change and it's going to shake things up more than people realize.
Yes, Ariana and Taylor will definitely feel this. A lot of their weekly chart strength comes from fans looping music videos, lyric videos, and visualizers on YouTube. Without those numbers, those huge debuts and long chart runs won't come as easily.
But this really affects most artists, especially those with international or free-platform-heavy fanbases where YouTube is the main way people listen. Billboard prioritizing paid subscription streams feels outdated, and the result is simple: charting gets harder, debuts look smaller, and the charts start reflecting who can pay rather than what people are actually playing.
(Thursday 18 December 2025; 02:59)
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There's so much Mariah press this week (112,706)
by jaker20 from US
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AIWFCIY is breaking records, and the album Merry Christmas is doing 10x platinum, and the Here For It All Christmas show this weekend apparently breaking the TikTok record.
(Tuesday 16 December 2025; 05:22)
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In Your Feelings (112,687)
by jaker20 from US
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Mariah has an image problem to get another hit. Gen Z will always associate her with Christmas and 90s songs that she won't be able to measure up to. No one can. You just stated it yourself: Music Box and Daydream Mariah would cringe with In Your Feelings.
Obsessed is an aberration, it's destined to be her biggest song after AIWFC, but at her age she is not going to make a song like that anymore, and the public won't believe it if she does.
Other than luck, she's left with very little to options. And honestly, lambs wanting for Bruno Mars to collab with her is pretty desperate. I think they just want to replicate the success of his song with Lady Gaga. It's never going to happen.
Charts don't mean much like it used to, so I don't think that is a worthy record to pursue. Nicky Minaj has like 150 Billboard hot 100 songs, ridiculous.
Besides, AIWFC is going to continue to break every existing record out there, records that actually matters because it's always about the song.
(Sunday 14 December 2025; 22:07)
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In Your Feelings (112,664)
by Giovanni from USA
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I love it so much but I can't listen to it anymore cause her voice sounds bad. Music Box and Daydream Mariah would cringe if they heard that. Overall I still enjoy HFIA just wish it had at least one hit. In my opinion if MOAIA Mariah was singing "In your feelings" it would be more enjoyable and a potential hit. The lyrics and production is there it's just the fans are not. I think there's a lot of remaining fans who don't care if she has any more hits but for me I'd like her to at least tie The Beatles' record. It's time for Mariah to write with Bruno and give us the collaboration some of us have wanted for years.
(Saturday 13 December 2025; 08:00)
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In Your Feelings (112,653)
by jaker20 from US
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It's doing really well on R&B radio but I doubt that she'll do a video for it when she didn't even do a proper video for Sugar Sweet which is now the most streamed song in the album.
(Thursday 11 December 2025; 15:57)
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History in the making (112,652)
by jaker20 from US
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I loved my post so much that I had to agree with myself and post an internal monologue because there's a light in me that shines brightly.
(Thursday 11 December 2025; 15:52)
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History in the making (112,645)
by Edward from USA
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Don't worry, we all talk to ourselves sometimes. Sending yourself a heart reminded of Beyonce's "I'm feeling myself".
(Wednesday 10 December 2025; 20:45)
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Serious question (112,642)
by jaker20 from US
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For females there is none. I just hope she can write for other artists to be a complete songwriter.
(Wednesday 10 December 2025; 16:58)
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Serious question (112,638)
by Lambi from USA
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Who is actually Mariah's closest formidable competition in terms of being a complete singer-songwriter? Is there anyone who genuinely matches her combination of vocal prowess and songwriting talent? Who?
(Wednesday 10 December 2025; 11:21)
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History in the making (112,637)
by jaker20 from US
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It's absolutely crazy to think that Mariah owned the record for 25 years, then lose it and only to take it back. It's just mind-boggling. Also, I think I just replied to myself before this post. 
(Wednesday 10 December 2025; 02:10)
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History in the making (112,634)
by Anonymous from United States
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I love the fact that Mariah will be able to take the record back after "One Sweet Day" was surpassed by those awful songs by Lil' Nas X and Shaboozey. Mariah deserves to retake her place at the throne and all of the others can rightfully bow down. As Mariah would say, "I worked hard for this mess."
(Tuesday 9 December 2025; 21:32)
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Here For It All Christmas (112,636)
by jaker20 from US
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Actually, I think the album is really a new step for her, she's embracing her current voice and hopefully taking a new artistic direction as her next step in her art. No over-stylized vocal, overly dramatic and lyrics about desperation and heavy emotional suffering over long lost love, and negative emotional heartbreak etc. etc.
Just understated, soft and calm non-screaming vocals and messages of love, gentle optimism and inspiration in her lyrics that fans know her, but many likely don't. It's a back to basics, easy listening, adult-contemporary, just think of Music Box which many don't even know is great a song in her album. Or inspirational gospel-adjacent 70-80s turn of the decade breezy feeling sound.
I hope she bring that back, some people are so negative and grouchy these days maybe they need it. And that could be new for her. Sure, they're not blockbuster top of the charts sounding pop songs, but for someone who's got an iconic song topping song breaking records for the gen z, why should she make more for the charts. This is a new direction for her and I hope she keeps on making them if the studios allow it. 
(Wednesday 10 December 2025; 02:03)
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Here For It All Christmas (112,632)
by jaker20 from US
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Well at least she is not ignoring the album altogether. This is what I wish she had done with Caution, incorporating materials from her latest album to her Christmas shows. I think that gives it some push, especially In Your Feelings which is currently number 2 on the R&B charts.
Jesus I Do, My Love and In Your Feelings, even the fun uptempo I Wont Allow It would fit well into her Christmas setlist.
(Tuesday 9 December 2025; 16:14)
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Here For It All Christmas (112,632)
by jaker20 from US
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Well at least she is not ignoring the album altogether. This is what I wish she had done with Caution, incorporating materials from her latest album to her Christmas shows. I think that gives it some push, especially In Your Feelings which is currently number 2 on the R&B charts.
Jesus I Do, My Love and In Your Feelings, even the fun uptempo I Wont Allow It would fit well into her Christmas setlist.
(Tuesday 9 December 2025; 16:14)
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Would you rather? (112,630)
by jaker20 from US
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I hope Mariah gets as many weeks as she can with AIWFC because as we have seen in the last 5 years, it's quite easy to get 15+ weeks at number one 1 now.
Apart from Lile Nas' record, just a year ago, that Bar Song also did 18 weeks. Harry Styles' As It Was would have done 25 weeks if it wasn't for a few songs being released in between it. Same with Morgan Wallen's Last Night would have done 23 weeks+.
So it not that hard anymore. Because outside of the Christmas season, the chart points are so low most of the time. In fact it's only during this season that chart points are so high across multiple songs. That just shows how impressive AIWFCIY domination is.
So if it's about records, she should take this as far as she can because all these records are meant to be broken.
(Monday 8 December 2025; 23:25)
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Would you rather? (112,603)
by T from USA
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If you could only chose one. Would you rather Mariah have the record for the longest running #1 hit or the most #1 hits?
Scenario 1) AIWFCIY is number one for three more weeks giving it a total of twenty one weeks, and 100 weeks in total on the Hot 100.
Scenario 2) AIWFCIY stalls forever at eighteen weeks, but her next two singles (featured or solo) go to #1, and so her all time Hot 100 total is 99 weeks.
Pick one.
(Friday 5 December 2025; 23:55)
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Would you rather? (112,622)
by jaker20 from US
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The problem with the charts now is the "double count". The streams of one song count to the album and vice versa. There is no way to split them, so technically charts don't mean anything anymore. The charts are dead now.
I feel like Taylor is just gaming the system. She got 8 weeks at no.1 on a song by releasing multiple variants. She does not even perform her songs anymore outside of her concerts, and they stay at number 1. In the past, Mariah had to perform her song multiple times across different shows and countries over the period of weeks for them to become hits. It's no longer about the song now, but just about riding the artists' popularity.
I think Mariah should focus on protecting her catalog instead of the charts. AIWFCIY will be her true legacy, not the charts, long after Billboard is dead and defunct. Especially with AI music inevitably coming.
(Sunday 7 December 2025; 22:16)
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Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,577)
by jaker20 from US
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That is why Mariah is saying she doesn't like other artists to cover her songs, because she can't really block them. That's her intention behind it. So she's pre-emptively discouraging other artists, especially from other artists she feels threatened.
(Monday 1 December 2025; 21:53)
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Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,574)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah can't stop anyone from covering her songs. Same with Prince, he wasn't happy about "Nothing Compares 2 U" being released, but legally, there was nothing he could do.
Once a song has been released to the public in the U.S., the copyright owner can't block someone else from recording a cover. This is because of what's called a compulsory mechanical license. After the original version is out, any artist can legally record and distribute their own version without asking the songwriter for permission.
For example, if Kelly Clarkson wanted to cover any Mariah Carey song, she could record and release it without ever asking Mariah, she would just need to secure the mechanical license and pay the required royalties.
Those royalties are handled through agencies like the Harry Fox Agency or a pro such as ASCAP or BMI, which make sure the original songwriter and publisher get paid.
So even though Mariah Carey has said she doesn't really like other people doing her songs, that's just her personal preference. It doesn't give her legal power to stop a cover, as long as the proper licensing steps are followed.
(Monday 1 December 2025; 15:28)
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When Christmas Comes (112,576)
by jaker20 from US
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I just can't stand seeing Nick Cannon anymore." That's exactly why I don't like the video. I was just being nice.
(Monday 1 December 2025; 21:37)
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When Christmas Comes (112,569)
by Giovanni from USA
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I love the song but I disagree, I like the video. I love Mariah's look in the ... especially by the piano next to John Legend. I think the video was nicely done and represented Mariah being happy and enjoying the Holiday spirit. I just can't stand seeing Nick Cannon anymore.
(Monday 1 December 2025; 04:10)
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When Christmas Comes (112,563)
by jaker20 from US
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I've been kind of obsessed with this song lately. It's such a classy and classic Christmas song. But the video does not capture the beauty of the song. I hope she updates it because it's an earworm.
(Sunday 30 November 2025; 19:22)
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Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,526)
by jaker20 from US
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I think it's a big misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure Mariah's already probably contacted her. I just don't want Mariah to be getting into these petty stuff anymore. She's no longer a pop girl. But a lot of lambs are still stuck on stirring stuff like these. I hope Mariah will connect with everyone who did her wrong, and move on with her life. That will be a true legacy. 
(Wednesday 26 November 2025; 17:56)
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Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,520)
by Dove from United States
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Well at least she cleared it up. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was trying to be funny like Lambily said and it just didn't come out right.
I mean if Mariah Carey said that about me I'd be heartbroken, even though I genuinely don't think Mariah meant it as shade towards her. Just because she looked genuinely confused. It seemed like she thought she covered it on an album or something.
She was equally confused when they were playing Clarissa's version of Someone's Ugly Daughter in that interview with SZA (who I recently discovered and I really love BTW). I think she thought they were playing the version with her vocals on it. This whole year has been like she's in a fog. Which makes her so human to me. It makes me love her even more.
(Wednesday 26 November 2025; 01:42)
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