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Back to chart obsession (110,516) by jaker20 from US It's like clockwork in this forum. I love Doja but collabing with her just to chart is pretty desperate. She's likely to out-chart Mariah, but who cares, as long as HFIA is as good as Caution, I will be happy. If we hope for a chart position for HFIA, we will be disappointed. When Sugar Sweet was released, reception was extremely positive. But because it didn't chart, we don't like it anymore. The quickness lambs switch on her based on chart position is sad. She's really a victim of her own success. I love the song, love the beat, it feels like a classic. It doesn't feel out of place to her catalog like that I Don't mess. And she's collabing and she increase their profile even a little. She's in her giving era, launching careers. I hope the song has its moment someday, I'm almost thinking it being a theme for a cooking show and it explodes lol. That's how IWTKWLI is Brazil when it became a theme for a show. (Friday 15 August 2025; 22:52)

Doja Cat (110,495) by jaker20 from US She's apparently releasing on the same day as Mariah. Suddenly everyone is releasing and is out to get her. (Friday 15 August 2025; 00:34)

Album releases in the 1990's (110,473) by jaker20 from US I would love for Mariah to release Someone's Ugly Daughter. It's supposedly a full album with full track list. That would be a big change for her, and the way she kept talking about it, it seems she want to, but for whatever reason is hesitating to do it. Do it Mariah. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 02:32) this is a reply to message 110,466

Album releases in the 1990's (110,466) by T from USA She released an album of some kind every year of the '90's except 1996. It would've been great if she put out Someone's Ugly Daughter in that year, then transitioned to Butterfly the next year. I think she would've gotten more respect and possibly things would've gone different for her at the end of the decade (possibly). (Wednesday 13 August 2025; 17:53)

Taylor Swift (110,472) by jaker20 from US Mariah's team can only wish. The two competing would benefit Mariah only just from the free publicity alone. They're no longer in the same commercial league anymore, as Mariah is a legacy act. I just want Mariah's album to be good and I don't care about what others are putting out there. Taylor's album will release a week after Mariah's. She's putting Olivia in a worse position because she beat her announcement and Olivia is supposed to release in 2025. Now Olivia is likely going to change plans, especially with Sabrina already releasing later this month. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 02:22) this is a reply to message 110,468

Taylor Swift (110,468) by Norman from USA It would be great if there were actually a battle. I don't think Swift's team has Mariah anywhere near their radar tbh. I know that amongst her fans, we're waiting with baited breath, but the GP doesn't have her on their radar either. The two lead singles have had a positive reaction from the fans and have stoked a new sense of optimism amongst us as well, but neither of them are doing anywhere near well enough to be a threat to any upcoming album release. I believe that it's going to hinge more on the album drop and how well it can garner attention in the r&b space, as opposed to the pop/mainstream space. I still believe that a comeback single is entirely possible for her; some heartfelt song from out of left field with a great hook and thumping beat could do it. It's been said here many times before (I know I've said it), but it bears repeating - her heart's gotta be in it. The thing that Taylor has brought to the table in her dominion of the charts, is a team with a lot of business savvy, sharp marketing skills, well crafted public image, and a no-holds-barred drive to plaster her everywhere. And while I think Mariah could benefit from a level of that (I think Gamma is trying-adjacent), I think Mariah is so done with that part of her career/life. She went from IDWC to I Don't Wanna Try. You know, it's kind of like when an introvert makes future plans when they're excited, and then as the day approaches, they hate themselves for making the plans. At least that's my take on it. I'm cautiously optimistic about this new album after hearing the "Here For It All", snippet. I guess we'll see on September 26th. But I'm glad you're still hyped for a big moment from this era. I like your take better than mine, if I'm being honest. Hope is always a good thing, Bobby A. (Wednesday 13 August 2025; 20:43)

Obsessed (110,397) by jaker20 from US [It's] pulling near 800k daily on [Spotify] alone. Which is insane. [It's] doing better than most of her full albums. [It's] become her biggest hit in the streaming era. It stood the test of time and its universal, [it's] a hit everywhere, and it doesn't work like that all the time. That type of cheeky and satirical songs, usually stay in that time and era. But not in this case. (Saturday 9 August 2025; 23:53)

Random thoughts about aging and beauty (110,325) by jaker20 from US Mariah always looks younger than her age. It's the mix-race genetics beauty in her. She always had great skin, teeth and hair. Particularly during the Charmbracelet era, her skin was so flawless, they're glowing. I always wondered why she never pursued skin care products merch. She would have been a great spokesperson. So while she obviously had done, it's not that huge of a change for her. The breasts sure. But for everything else she has a great base of natural beauty already, they're just touch ups, unlike for other celebrities. Personally if I had the money, I would too for as long as I can. Life is what you make it. Some people want to make us believe aging naturally make us happy. Maybe that's true for them, but that's not always true. We all touch up all the time, makeup, hair color, even high heels and clothes make us feel a different way. It's different for everyone. It does not necessarily mean they're looking or trying satisfy some pressure. I remember Rihanna and Taylor famously shut down reporters who assume them to be backhanded compliments. (Monday 4 August 2025; 20:36) this is a reply to message 110,314

Random thoughts about aging and beauty (110,314) by Dove from United States I was thinking about Mariah Carey and how she still looks really young. I'm approaching that age where women start "needing" to get injectables and I'm trying to decide what kind of woman I'm going to be. Then I started thinking about famous women who are choosing to age naturally. I saw some pictures of Pamela Anderson and I thought she was still really beautiful. Drew Barrymore, Alicia Keys, Kelly Clarkson, Alicia Silverstone. They're all still really beautiful. Then I thought, "They're lying to us, we don't need that stuff." Then I thought about Demi Moore and Mariah Carey who have had work done and they're really beautiful too, just in a different way. I think a big reason to want to look younger is if you're trying to attract a younger man. I feel like someone would still be attracted to an older woman who looks her age, though. Do all men prefer younger women? Pamela Anderson still got a man and he seems to really like her. I've always been okay with lasers and chemical peels but injectables kind of scare me because if they're not done right they can make a person look worse. I'm glad Mariah is looking her best for this era but it must be so much pressure. I wouldn't mind if she started aging after this era. Not that my opinion matters but I was thinking about how people notice famous people's (and everyone's) appearance. I think a person's personality has a lot to do with their beauty too. There are some celebrities (and regular people) who are so ugly on the inside that nothing could make them beautiful no matter how they look on the outside. (Monday 4 August 2025; 14:55)

Random thought (110,310) by jaker20 from US Mariah is actually really funny. I wished she'd done more comedies, she's always been hilarious. Also, there is a lot of talk here about Mariah's personality. I think that is just a character she created for herself to not feel stiffed by fame and celebrity. She created this over the top character as a survival mechanism. People can pick apart, criticize and even praise that persona, which she know everyone will as she's constantly in front of the camera. But she finds comfort in the fact that that's not really her, and she will never let us in to the real her. Alexa stream Mariah's "Outside". (Sunday 3 August 2025; 20:56)

Streaming numbers (110,289) by jaker20 from US This is wrong. It's Like That has more than 100m+ streams. It's quite a popular pre-streaming song that endured into streaming era. (Saturday 2 August 2025; 21:49) this is a reply to message 110,288

Streaming numbers (110,288) by TJ from Norway We often joke about Migrate and the lack of support of that song. I was going through a list over Mariah's most streamed songs and realised that [It's like that] has only around 250k spins/streams on Spotify. Migrate has 5,3 million and what's really shocking is that that horrible song Infinity has more than 16 millions. Yes I know that both ILT and Migrate were released before the streaming took over, but 16 millions? #justiceforITL (Saturday 2 August 2025; 18:21)

The making of Mariah Carey (110,277) by jaker20 from US Wow, possibly one of Mariah's best looks, like ever. She's done suit inspired looks before, but not like this. (Friday 1 August 2025; 05:20)

Sugar Sweet (110,110) by jaker20 from US It puts you on a good mood. It's dance choreo friendly yet also a great walk the dog in the park. It hits the right balance. This is the direction I want Mariah to take moving forward. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 18:57) this is a reply to message 110,106

Sugar Sweet (110,106) by Giovanni from USA Such a vibe and super catchy. The song sounds like what's current right now. I can hear Ariana or Ciara singing this song. My only complain is that I wish it was a solo. When it comes to Mariah I really don't want or need to hear anybody else. (Sunday 27 July 2025; 05:19)

Sugar Sweet (110,024) by jaker20 from US I love. Definitely one of MC's best releases in quite a long time. Second listen and I'm hooked. (Friday 25 July 2025; 07:15)

Unpopular opinions (109,736) by jaker20 from US That's an interesting story. I never knew this, especially the backstory about Someday. (Monday 14 July 2025; 22:11) this is a reply to message 109,718

Unpopular opinions (109,718) by Bill from the UK You're right there was a bidding war to sign her between Warners and, as it was back then, CBS records. When the "demo tape incident" happened at the party Brenda K Starr took her to, MC was already in negotiations with WB. I've no idea what numbers each party threw in, but all Mariah ever said about it was that it was CBS allowing her to write her own songs that sealed it for her. I think they could have even offered less money and she still would have gone with them on that element alone. Clive Davis actually tried to buy the song Someday for Whitney, it was then that Mariah realised she could indeed write a good pop song and rather than selling it (as tempting as it was for a young girl "without a penny to her name") she retained it for herself and it gave her even more determination to become an artist in her own right. (Sunday 13 July 2025; 18:33)

Summer fun songs (109,594) by jaker20 from US I can almost guarantee you that Mariah isn't going back in time and do those songs like Anytime You Need A Friend and songs from that era. She's a different person from Memoirs onwards (MIAMTEC, Caution), and the new album is likely a continuation of that. As much as I want her heavy melodrama songs, she's not that person anymore. People change, and she's no different. Mariah herself says its a different time and cannot and should not be repeated. The album is likely in the vein of Caution and Memoirs which is a good thing. I think Memoirs is her sweet spot right now, vocally and creatively. Surprisingly it's turning out to be one of her more enduring albums. (Friday 4 July 2025; 04:29) this is a reply to message 109,572

Summer fun songs (109,572) by Randy from USA Jaker20 we never agree on anything but I could not disagree with you more on this topic. I actually would rather an album full of heavy, self introspective songs. I listen to Languishing, Anytime You Need A Friend, Close My Eyes and Through The Rain constantly these days. I appreciate Touch My Body for the melodically driven verses and the camp video. Shake It Off is fun also. Songs like that are needed. But so are songs like My All, Petals and Vanishing. I think we're getting both on the new album. I wanted a heavy Adele-like album with songs like Hello, Easy on Me, Million Years Ago and Someone Like You. That's not where MC is. I don't even think that would sell for Adele at this point in today's musical landscape. But some of us are heartbroken or want our hearts broken. Not everything can be light. (Wednesday 2 July 2025; 20:15)

Touch My Body, Obsessed, Shake it Off, and others (109,566) by jaker20 from US I saw a semi-viral tweet asking why no one's serving Touch My Body type of songs, other than Sabrina. The tweet and responses describe it as funny, but witty, camp, satirical pop. I think Mariah was on to something with Shake It Off, Touch My Body, Obsessed, that series of releases in mid to late 2000s. Type Dangerous continues that style, it's in the same genre, but lighter, self-aware, and sassy. I want more of those. Sabrina's recent releases have that vibe. Expresso is very Fantasy adjacent, and has similar Honey type of video. The same with Please, Please, Please. Its not out of her lane, even AIWFCIY has that playful humor to it, because Mariah herself is funny. I don't want Mariah to do overtly melodrama and serious songs anymore, and I wonder if Mariah feel the same. I think she wasn't into that Streisand song, the release of TD shows it's not even close to the same sound and genre she is creating for the new era. No disrespect to Streisand, I know Mariah has plenty of respect for her but it's not her. (Wednesday 2 July 2025; 06:11)

TD is doing what its supposed to do (109,550) by jaker20 from US It got a lot of attention, it charted, got a solid video, it fits right into her catalog. It's still rising on radio so it will out stream all her newer pops songs from the last 10 years. Fans are always waiting for Mariah to turn out a Believe-moment. But honestly that song ruined Cher's discography. It is so disconnected from what she's done before it, and didn't help her catalog as a whole. TD complements the rest of Mariah's recent work, and flows right with the rest of her classics. I think it's going to keep growing on streaming and in a few months, it will pass all her songs since #Beautiful. The song did what it had to do which is bring her back to the new era, even though its not an instant hit. Not a lot of her contemporaries can do the same on a solo song. (Tuesday 1 July 2025; 02:36)

MC vs MC (109,549) by jaker20 from US Miley's song isn't going to chart. Her latest album charted for a week and gone the next week. The lead single from it did only slightly better than TD. And she just had a massive song with Flowers. Not to mention of course that Miley is a relatively newer artist. So I don't think MC should be following Mileys footsteps. (Tuesday 1 July 2025; 02:32) this is a reply to message 109,547

MC vs MC (109,547) by Tijl from Belgium Miley Cyrus just released het latest little effort: "Every Girl You've Ever Loved". And truly, this is the type of song Mariah should release if she wishes to skyrocket back to the top of the charts. Fresh, relevant, contemporary and relatable. Not to mention this video has a proper star in a cameo role. "Dangerous Type" [sic] is on my daily playlist as I am a loyal fan. Miley's song got me instantly. Quite the difference. (Monday 30 June 2025; 21:05)

Mariah's unique tone and sound (109,501) by jaker20 from US One thing stood out for me on this song is how unique her voice is. This record made me realize, again, why I fell in love with her. She's actually more reserved here, and respectfully stepped back. But it also made me realize how unique her voice is. Streisand's voice is classic and powerful, Ariana is also a good vocalist and has her own style. But side by side with other artists, how Mariah "play" with her tone stands out. Her power is probably not the same anymore, but the playfulness, texture and dynamics is always going to be there. It's hers and hers only. She goes from whisper then like a "fracture" or break, head and chest, and then back to soothe again. I don't understand vocal terms so I'm clearly sounding senseless now. But then Mariah herself said she never had a formal training. But that quality on her voice is really what makes me recognize it's her and make her voice unique. That even great vocalists, even if they try to sing her song, it's just not, and will never be, the same. (Friday 27 June 2025; 19:36)

One Heart, One Voice (109,500) by jaker20 from US It was ok, kind of what I would expect for a Streisand song. However, if Mariah will be doing these types of songs, I would rather it be more in the lane of Home and 100%, which by the way, are both epic, inspirational standards, they needed to be on streaming and be discovered. (Friday 27 June 2025; 19:27)

Fans being obsessed with being #1 (109,470) by jaker20 from US I don't want her or fans obsessing about charts, its should always be about the music. But if that's what motivates her to create and be busy with, then that's a pretty good reason to do so. Some of the big artists that came after her and those before Covid are currently struggling, everything moves so fast now. So for me, TD is a success. (Thursday 26 June 2025; 04:57)

What's going on? (109,416) by jaker20 from US If Mariah keep doing quick little mini-hits like Type Dangerous for the rest of her career, I would be happy. The gp only know her as a Christmas artist, and in a couple of months, here comes that season again. I don't know how she can be both a both Christmas and pop act, especially being a legacy artist. I just hope she should keep at it until one of those songs hit big. Big Energy was a close one, so it's not impossible. She is at least still doing something, and releasing, and being creative. Next week, she's on a song with Streisand and Ariana, and hopefully the starpower on that alone would get a lot of attention. (Friday 20 June 2025; 02:41) this is a reply to message 109,414

What's going on? (109,414) by Dave from USA She started doing promotion across the pond pretty quick (of course, she had the concert there to boot) but many American audiences didn't see it. Not sure why she let loose over there but performed like a mannequin on BET. At least the song charted and wasn't a Christmas song. Shy of MC stepping out of her box to actually entertain the way Taylor, Beyonce, or others who incorporate a show into their brand, it's slim she will hit like in the past. Radio just doesn't play MC outside of Christmas and the lambs seem to barely support her when she actually does release something. I really do want her to get a hit and topple The Beatles records, but being an older artist, it's way harder to do now. Especially when you don't change your brand. (Friday 20 June 2025; 01:43)

Summertime Ball (109,379) by jaker20 from US Seeing Mariah walk like normal again makes me so happy. That may be the longest walk I seen her do in the last 10 years. Welcome back Mariah. (Monday 16 June 2025; 18:15)

BET Awards (109,221) by jaker20 from US She looks gorgeous. I'm just happy that Mariah is making music again and collaborating and getting busy and creative. Also she looks really happy, and seems, I don't know, well? I've had a lot of worries about her state lately, and that's all been quash in one night. (Tuesday 10 June 2025; 18:10)

No.1 in global iTunes (109,166) by jaker20 from US Type Dangerous is actually out-streaming Big Energy by a slight bit, so that's a great start. It's all about the long run. But these debut numbers matter, it signals to industry people and possible collaborators that her name alone can pull these numbers. What happens after comes down to promo and being in the right place at the right time. (Saturday 7 June 2025; 22:04) this is a reply to message 109,148

No.1 in global iTunes (109,148) by Shezz from Pk Don't forget GTFO hit number one on iTunes as well but failed to chart. Streaming counts the most and her numbers there are still pretty low I read on another site. Though that in no way means they can't pick up. Right now the song is only hot with the lambs. It could eventually spread to the masses. So many songs creep their way up the charts as they gain a wider audience. First week numbers aren't everything. (Saturday 7 June 2025; 13:16)

No.1 in global iTunes (109,140) by jaker20 from US Now no.1 in US iTunes as well. Pleasantly surprised, and honestly I was not expecting this. (Saturday 7 June 2025; 07:01) this is a reply to message 109,136

No.1 in global iTunes (109,136) by jaker20 from US No.3 in the US, it's a great start. (Friday 6 June 2025; 23:12)

No.1 in global iTunes (109,136) by jaker20 from US No.3 in the US, it's a great start. (Friday 6 June 2025; 23:12)

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