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Was Celine the original JLo? (112,883) by jaker20 from US This is the first time I'm reading this sort connection between My All video and MHWGO, it's just so ridiculous to think Mariah had a part in conceiving a clap back video, let alone to make fun of MHWGO. For me, after Daydream, Mariah wanted to do something in the film industry because back then artists think movies is the next step. Whitney was doing what she saw herself doing next, that is, soundtracks for films she would star in. Whitney was just coming off Waiting to Exhale, and The Preacher's Wife, and by the time Butterfly was released, she was producing Cinderella, and probably thought she could do the same. I can see Mariah being jealous of what Whitney was doing because as she wanted more control over the materials she's singing. Does she want to be part of successful soundtracks she didn't write? Sure. But that's like saying, she was jealous of Alanis Morrisette for dominating the cross-over pop-rock scene at the same time Mariah was creatively and commercially peaking. (Friday 2 January 2026; 20:04)

Was Celine the original JLo? (112,821) by jaker20 from US Absolutely not, especially at that time of her career when she was breaking out of her shell did not want a participation award. Maybe in the early 90s, but not in the Butterfly period when she was getting a lot more control. I could see Mariah doing Killing Me Softly if that was her idea even if she didn't write it. That was the direction she was taking her sound from Daydream, but got scared and went back to her safe zone in Rainbow. Now I love Lauryn, but when I listen to Ex-Factor and Tell Him I imagine Mariah doing her melisma and it it would have been magic. (Tuesday 30 December 2025; 21:41)

Love takes time (112,768) by jaker20 from US Kelly has actually covered it on her show. Not bad, she's a good vocalist, she can do the runs, peaks and lows and all the power vocals. But the quality of the midrange is so different and airiness are totally missing. That said, Love Takes Time is that song in her debut that sounds the most fresh in 2025. That's why she's been using it lately as intro on her tours. (Thursday 25 December 2025; 04:11) this is a reply to message 112,764

Love takes time (112,764) by Giovanni from USA Gave "Love takes time" a listen and it's definitely one of my favorites from Mariah. She still has the best debut album by a female in my opinion. I would love to hear Kelly Clarkson cover this song. (Wednesday 24 December 2025; 22:26)

So which is it? (112,759) by jaker20 from US I mean it's not necessarily one or the other. The charts don't matter as it used to, does not mean we can't talk about the charts. (Wednesday 24 December 2025; 17:01) this is a reply to message 112,745

So which is it? (112,745) by Dove from United States I mean, if we get them, of course we'll celebrate and acknowledge our wins. But if we don't, it doesn't mean MC is suddenly worthless to us. (Tuesday 23 December 2025; 12:04)

Correction (112,735) by jaker20 from US I don't see that happening, because that would be genre discrimination and would make the chart very corrupt. Christmas music is merely a genre, that would be like excluding rap or dance or disco or any other genre during those times when they were popular. And right now, holidays is the most impactful chart season. The points are the highest of the year during this season, and listening to music is more autonomous. This is why AIWFCIY's achievements is simply mind-blowing. It's the most organic and it's the most consumer, populist driven era, where all walks of life are represented on the charts. (Monday 22 December 2025; 21:53) this is a reply to message 112,719

Correction (112,719) by Edward from USA I don't think they will, and if they did, it would be unfair. Holiday songs aren't taking up those spots by accident or because of some loophole, they're there on merit. They're the most popular songs in the country during that time, measured by the exact same rules as everything else: radio airplay, streaming, and sales. If a song is dominating all three metrics, it deserves its position, whether it's a brand new release or a 30-year-old Christmas classic. Changing the rules just because seasonal songs are too successful would basically mean punishing records for being massively in demand. That's not how a chart that's supposed to reflect popularity should work. (Thursday 18 December 2025; 01:32)

I told you that Winter was coming (112,721) by jaker20 from US But I also think this make the charts even more static, with little changes every week. So I can see songs staying at no.1 even longer. The top 10 was barely changing outside of the holidays. And I think the heavy weighting given to streaming is the reason. In the last 6 years alone, nearly 10 songs stayed at no.1 for 14 weeks or so. In the last 5 years a few of those would have stayed 20+ weeks if it weren't for one week gaps. Harry Styles and that Morgan Wallen song, the title of which I don't even remember, stayed in the top 2 for 20 to 26 weeks. So I wondering if this will cause Mariah's record to be beaten every year. (Friday 19 December 2025; 15:22) this is a reply to message 112,720

I told you that Winter was coming (112,720) by Edward from USA Billboard is removing YouTube streams from counting toward all charts, effective January 16, 2026. That's a massive change and it's going to shake things up more than people realize. Yes, Ariana and Taylor will definitely feel this. A lot of their weekly chart strength comes from fans looping music videos, lyric videos, and visualizers on YouTube. Without those numbers, those huge debuts and long chart runs won't come as easily. But this really affects most artists, especially those with international or free-platform-heavy fanbases where YouTube is the main way people listen. Billboard prioritizing paid subscription streams feels outdated, and the result is simple: charting gets harder, debuts look smaller, and the charts start reflecting who can pay rather than what people are actually playing. (Thursday 18 December 2025; 02:59)

There's so much Mariah press this week (112,706) by jaker20 from US AIWFCIY is breaking records, and the album Merry Christmas is doing 10x platinum, and the Here For It All Christmas show this weekend apparently breaking the TikTok record. (Tuesday 16 December 2025; 05:22)

In Your Feelings (112,687) by jaker20 from US Mariah has an image problem to get another hit. Gen Z will always associate her with Christmas and 90s songs that she won't be able to measure up to. No one can. You just stated it yourself: Music Box and Daydream Mariah would cringe with In Your Feelings. Obsessed is an aberration, it's destined to be her biggest song after AIWFC, but at her age she is not going to make a song like that anymore, and the public won't believe it if she does. Other than luck, she's left with very little to options. And honestly, lambs wanting for Bruno Mars to collab with her is pretty desperate. I think they just want to replicate the success of his song with Lady Gaga. It's never going to happen. Charts don't mean much like it used to, so I don't think that is a worthy record to pursue. Nicky Minaj has like 150 Billboard hot 100 songs, ridiculous. Besides, AIWFC is going to continue to break every existing record out there, records that actually matters because it's always about the song. (Sunday 14 December 2025; 22:07) this is a reply to message 112,664

In Your Feelings (112,664) by Giovanni from USA I love it so much but I can't listen to it anymore cause her voice sounds bad. Music Box and Daydream Mariah would cringe if they heard that. Overall I still enjoy HFIA just wish it had at least one hit. In my opinion if MOAIA Mariah was singing "In your feelings" it would be more enjoyable and a potential hit. The lyrics and production is there it's just the fans are not. I think there's a lot of remaining fans who don't care if she has any more hits but for me I'd like her to at least tie The Beatles' record. It's time for Mariah to write with Bruno and give us the collaboration some of us have wanted for years. (Saturday 13 December 2025; 08:00)

In Your Feelings (112,653) by jaker20 from US It's doing really well on R&B radio but I doubt that she'll do a video for it when she didn't even do a proper video for Sugar Sweet which is now the most streamed song in the album. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 15:57)

History in the making (112,652) by jaker20 from US I loved my post so much that I had to agree with myself and post an internal monologue because there's a light in me that shines brightly. (Thursday 11 December 2025; 15:52) this is a reply to message 112,645

History in the making (112,645) by Edward from USA Don't worry, we all talk to ourselves sometimes. Sending yourself a heart reminded of Beyonce's "I'm feeling myself". (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 20:45)

Serious question (112,642) by jaker20 from US For females there is none. I just hope she can write for other artists to be a complete songwriter. (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 16:58) this is a reply to message 112,638

Serious question (112,638) by Lambi from USA Who is actually Mariah's closest formidable competition in terms of being a complete singer-songwriter? Is there anyone who genuinely matches her combination of vocal prowess and songwriting talent? Who? (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 11:21)

History in the making (112,637) by jaker20 from US It's absolutely crazy to think that Mariah owned the record for 25 years, then lose it and only to take it back. It's just mind-boggling. Also, I think I just replied to myself before this post. (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 02:10) this is a reply to message 112,634

History in the making (112,634) by BFF from United States I love the fact that Mariah will be able to take the record back after "One Sweet Day" was surpassed by those awful songs by Lil' Nas X and Shaboozey. Mariah deserves to retake her place at the throne and all of the others can rightfully bow down. As Mariah would say, "I worked hard for this mess." (Tuesday 9 December 2025; 21:32)

Here For It All Christmas (112,636) by jaker20 from US Actually, I think the album is really a new step for her, she's embracing her current voice and hopefully taking a new artistic direction as her next step in her art. No over-stylized vocal, overly dramatic and lyrics about desperation and heavy emotional suffering over long lost love, and negative emotional heartbreak etc. etc. Just understated, soft and calm non-screaming vocals and messages of love, gentle optimism and inspiration in her lyrics that fans know her, but many likely don't. It's a back to basics, easy listening, adult-contemporary, just think of Music Box which many don't even know is great a song in her album. Or inspirational gospel-adjacent 70-80s turn of the decade breezy feeling sound. I hope she bring that back, some people are so negative and grouchy these days maybe they need it. And that could be new for her. Sure, they're not blockbuster top of the charts sounding pop songs, but for someone who's got an iconic song topping song breaking records for the gen z, why should she make more for the charts. This is a new direction for her and I hope she keeps on making them if the studios allow it. (Wednesday 10 December 2025; 02:03) this is a reply to message 112,632

Here For It All Christmas (112,632) by jaker20 from US Well at least she is not ignoring the album altogether. This is what I wish she had done with Caution, incorporating materials from her latest album to her Christmas shows. I think that gives it some push, especially In Your Feelings which is currently number 2 on the R&B charts. Jesus I Do, My Love and In Your Feelings, even the fun uptempo I Wont Allow It would fit well into her Christmas setlist. (Tuesday 9 December 2025; 16:14)

Here For It All Christmas (112,632) by jaker20 from US Well at least she is not ignoring the album altogether. This is what I wish she had done with Caution, incorporating materials from her latest album to her Christmas shows. I think that gives it some push, especially In Your Feelings which is currently number 2 on the R&B charts. Jesus I Do, My Love and In Your Feelings, even the fun uptempo I Wont Allow It would fit well into her Christmas setlist. (Tuesday 9 December 2025; 16:14)

Would you rather? (112,630) by jaker20 from US I hope Mariah gets as many weeks as she can with AIWFC because as we have seen in the last 5 years, it's quite easy to get 15+ weeks at number one 1 now. Apart from Lile Nas' record, just a year ago, that Bar Song also did 18 weeks. Harry Styles' As It Was would have done 25 weeks if it wasn't for a few songs being released in between it. Same with Morgan Wallen's Last Night would have done 23 weeks+. So it not that hard anymore. Because outside of the Christmas season, the chart points are so low most of the time. In fact it's only during this season that chart points are so high across multiple songs. That just shows how impressive AIWFCIY domination is. So if it's about records, she should take this as far as she can because all these records are meant to be broken. (Monday 8 December 2025; 23:25) this is a reply to message 112,603

Would you rather? (112,603) by T from USA If you could only chose one. Would you rather Mariah have the record for the longest running #1 hit or the most #1 hits? Scenario 1) AIWFCIY is number one for three more weeks giving it a total of twenty one weeks, and 100 weeks in total on the Hot 100. Scenario 2) AIWFCIY stalls forever at eighteen weeks, but her next two singles (featured or solo) go to #1, and so her all time Hot 100 total is 99 weeks. Pick one. (Friday 5 December 2025; 23:55)

Would you rather? (112,622) by jaker20 from US The problem with the charts now is the "double count". The streams of one song count to the album and vice versa. There is no way to split them, so technically charts don't mean anything anymore. The charts are dead now. I feel like Taylor is just gaming the system. She got 8 weeks at no.1 on a song by releasing multiple variants. She does not even perform her songs anymore outside of her concerts, and they stay at number 1. In the past, Mariah had to perform her song multiple times across different shows and countries over the period of weeks for them to become hits. It's no longer about the song now, but just about riding the artists' popularity. I think Mariah should focus on protecting her catalog instead of the charts. AIWFCIY will be her true legacy, not the charts, long after Billboard is dead and defunct. Especially with AI music inevitably coming. (Sunday 7 December 2025; 22:16)

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,577) by jaker20 from US That is why Mariah is saying she doesn't like other artists to cover her songs, because she can't really block them. That's her intention behind it. So she's pre-emptively discouraging other artists, especially from other artists she feels threatened. (Monday 1 December 2025; 21:53) this is a reply to message 112,574

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? (112,574) by Edward from USA Mariah can't stop anyone from covering her songs. Same with Prince, he wasn't happy about "Nothing Compares 2 U" being released, but legally, there was nothing he could do. Once a song has been released to the public in the U.S., the copyright owner can't block someone else from recording a cover. This is because of what's called a compulsory mechanical license. After the original version is out, any artist can legally record and distribute their own version without asking the songwriter for permission. For example, if Kelly Clarkson wanted to cover any Mariah Carey song, she could record and release it without ever asking Mariah, she would just need to secure the mechanical license and pay the required royalties. Those royalties are handled through agencies like the Harry Fox Agency or a pro such as ASCAP or BMI, which make sure the original songwriter and publisher get paid. So even though Mariah Carey has said she doesn't really like other people doing her songs, that's just her personal preference. It doesn't give her legal power to stop a cover, as long as the proper licensing steps are followed. (Monday 1 December 2025; 15:28)

When Christmas Comes (112,576) by jaker20 from US I just can't stand seeing Nick Cannon anymore." That's exactly why I don't like the video. I was just being nice. (Monday 1 December 2025; 21:37) this is a reply to message 112,569

When Christmas Comes (112,569) by Giovanni from USA I love the song but I disagree, I like the video. I love Mariah's look in the ... especially by the piano next to John Legend. I think the video was nicely done and represented Mariah being happy and enjoying the Holiday spirit. I just can't stand seeing Nick Cannon anymore. (Monday 1 December 2025; 04:10)

When Christmas Comes (112,563) by jaker20 from US I've been kind of obsessed with this song lately. It's such a classy and classic Christmas song. But the video does not capture the beauty of the song. I hope she updates it because it's an earworm. (Sunday 30 November 2025; 19:22)

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,526) by jaker20 from US I think it's a big misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure Mariah's already probably contacted her. I just don't want Mariah to be getting into these petty stuff anymore. She's no longer a pop girl. But a lot of lambs are still stuck on stirring stuff like these. I hope Mariah will connect with everyone who did her wrong, and move on with her life. That will be a true legacy. (Wednesday 26 November 2025; 17:56) this is a reply to message 112,520

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,520) by Dove from United States Well at least she cleared it up. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was trying to be funny like Lambily said and it just didn't come out right. I mean if Mariah Carey said that about me I'd be heartbroken, even though I genuinely don't think Mariah meant it as shade towards her. Just because she looked genuinely confused. It seemed like she thought she covered it on an album or something. She was equally confused when they were playing Clarissa's version of Someone's Ugly Daughter in that interview with SZA (who I recently discovered and I really love BTW). I think she thought they were playing the version with her vocals on it. This whole year has been like she's in a fog. Which makes her so human to me. It makes me love her even more. (Wednesday 26 November 2025; 01:42)

Random thoughts (112,494) by jaker20 from US Mariah's merch is not good lol because I think she is the one managing it. She no longer knows what is cool. She needs to hand them over to younger people to create ideate merch for her. I have not bought any Mariah merch, but instead gone back to collecting CDs, vinyl and tapes. They're on a glass display that I just put together last year. I used to have some rare collectibles I bought in record stores, but I regretted selling them. Now her Christmas merch is another, they are actually pretty good, especially the tumbler and the snow globe. But I'm sorry, her non-Christmas merch is ugly, she needs to update them to the 21st century lol I don't think that is Mariah's forte. That is why all her partnerships in the past didn't work, just like Black Irish, and her perfume. (Monday 24 November 2025; 19:53) this is a reply to message 112,485

Random thoughts (112,485) by Dove from United States I don't know if the people Taylor has working for her are younger or what, but she jumps on every marketing opportunity and puts out fun merch that you'd actually want to buy. I know a lot of us Mariah fans, we're older now, but we've been with her since we were kids. She brings out the kid in me. Not just because I've been a fan since I was a kid but also because she's like a big kid herself. Some of the merch I like, but a lot of it has been a miss for me. A while ago I got some of her wrapping paper that was fun. It had the cartoon version of her and her dog. I wrapped up some empty boxes with it and I put them out every year as decoration. Now her wrapping paper and annual ornaments just have her name or initials. It's quality paper but it's not fun. I'd rather buy fun wrapping paper at Home Goods than use that. I liked the Swarovski snowflake she had a few years back. Couldn't she do an ornament collaboration with Waterford like Elton John has? Release one every year? Or I've seen advertised some really cute advent calendars with each window having a mini figure of Mariah in her most famous ensembles. It's a scam, and 2D, but it would be cute if they were real. You could sell that for $120 ($10 per figure that probably cost a few dollars to make). I think people would buy it. But if it's quality. Not the ugly deformed faces the Hallmark ornaments have had in recent years. I've already said I prefer blow molds to inflatables. I like to use the same stuff year after year. Some of her merch is cute. I like the denim jacket and one of the sweatshirts she had the year she had the concert in New York during covid. Her kids were wearing it. But to get this stuff to sell you kind of need a promotional vehicle. Like with Disney. I know Disney would get a big cut but it's good marketing because it would reinforce the queen of Christmas idea and introduce kids to her voice. Maybe they could use the recordings of her when she was younger from the original Merry Christmas. I don't know how that works. (Just because if the Princess is a young girl she needs to sound young.) It would be nice if they included the duet with her mom as a tribute. Like, recreating the video in cartoon form. A few years ago I saw a short (reel?) of Kris Jenner's wrapping paper she made for her kids. It had drawings of her kids on it and it was really good. I'm not sure who the artist was but hire her for the wrapping paper. Or there's also an artist I've seen on Facebook whom I really like. I just looked her up, the page is called Hayden Williams Illustrations. That would be fun wrapping paper. (Or art prints.) (Monday 24 November 2025; 14:59)

AIWFC and In Your Feelings (112,472) by jaker20 from US Some thoughts: I think at the very least, AIWFCIY get at least 1 week on top this year, tying the record. But it will be very close this year. Last Christmas nearly beat it on Thursday, and it's close again yesterday. Bruno Mars: I don't understand why lambs are spreading this bs, it's not going to happen. In Your Feelings is doing well on urban radio but those are pay for play. They're not organic. I think if they want to push it as a single, they should do it after the holidays. Right now, it is hurting AIWFCIY this year, her team is not focused and neither are fans. The more they push In Your Feelings right now, the more both will fail. Last year, she had promos and photoshoots about the new vinyl covers, there was a lot from her during the first weeks of November. But this year, because of HFIA, Mariah is likely already worn out and you can feel it from the lack of activity from her and her team. And that slight dip of push from her team have a big impact on algorithms for AIWFC. We'll see. (Sunday 23 November 2025; 04:23) this is a reply to message 112,469

A lukewarm reception and a seven year absence (112,469) by T from USA It's Time... to let the Christmas thing go and do its own thing. I actually prefer the it's time announcement and that's it in terms of promoting AIWFCIY. Less is more now. The song has gone to #1 for eighteen weeks. After this year she will own the record for longest #1 hit, that's enough for me. Even if it never hits the top spot again after this year that will be okay and the song will always be legendary. HFIA suffered not from the long wait but from Christmas itself. That's all people want from Mariah, and all she wants is you. (Saturday 22 November 2025; 14:15)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,373) by jaker20 from US This is a real piece of history. It really shows how Mariah's break out is like no other. He said: "She writes like Madonna and sings like Whitney, I've discovered gold" is how he described her and he was mind-blown. This is why there will never be another Mariah. There will be a lot of great voices, and lot of great lyrics, but there will never be another one who mixed the two in a way she has. I love how the comments are saying "give it back to her". (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 18:28) this is a reply to message 112,372

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,372) by BFF from United States I 100 percent think that this is what will happen. Mariah will definitely see the news about the auction and will surely be able to outbid anyone in the process. She has spoken at length about how she believes her demos were superior to what ended up on the debut album. This would be an incredible opportunity to once and for all silence the people who claim that she would have not been successful without Tommy. After watching Arthur Baker's video, I am interested to know about the other seven songs that he didn't listen to. I wonder how many songs from the demo ended up on the album. Surely there is something on there we haven't heard. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 17:10)

Another #1 (112,371) by jaker20 from US There's a lot of artist that can sing, it's just this era does not appreciate it anymore and have a negative perception of them. Especially the power vocals style of singing. Singing competitions and social media made that genre ubiquitous, you see influencers with hundreds of thousands of followers and have stunning voices but are not even in the industry and don't even want to make money off their talent. It's devalued the style. So Mariah and other industry talents are grouped with that perception. She has an image issue. I think the last real vocalist who was big in pop is Adele and even she does not sound like she used to, nor seems to have interest in making more records. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 16:27) this is a reply to message 112,342

Another #1 (112,342) by Lambi from USA Honestly it's kind of sad the new girls can't really sing. We still have Beyoncé and Ariana somewhat holding it down but these Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter, Dua Lipa and Olivia Rodrigo types truly don't hold a candle to the 1990-2005 pop girlies. I miss when Mariah, Whitney, Celine all just took turns at being number one. The Beyoncé, Christina Aguilera, Kelly Clarkson era was also such a time. (Tuesday 11 November 2025; 10:59)

Nothing is Impossible (112,370) by jaker20 from US While I love that song, In Your Feelings is what they should support and do a video. It seems to be taking off on the radio, and that's without promo. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 16:15) this is a reply to message 112,356

Nothing is Impossible (112,356) by Dove from United States I'm listening to NII right now since a lot of people say it should have been a single. I do really like it but the start doesn't immediately capture my attention. That's why I don't think it would have been the best option for radio or playlists. If it popped up on a playlist for me, and I wasn't already a Mariah fan, I would skip to the next song. I like it for a movie because you're kind of forced to listen to the whole thing that way, or at least a longer part of it. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 01:50)

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