new message login create account edit account Name: jaker20 Country: US You Will Never Be MC Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,400) by jaker20 from US (Monday 4 December 2023; 22:07) I think you need to calm down. Now you're backpedaling again lol. You said the music industry don't have a say, then you say they kind of do. lol. Come out and be real now. 0 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,399 by Edward from USA (Monday 4 December 2023; 21:23) Labels don't have that much control, period. They have been trying to make artists, songs and albums happen for the longest that never went anywhere. Streaming changed the game, stars and hits have come out straight out of YouTube, streamers gave them that. Promoting helps a lot to bring attention to projects, but people ultimately decide. AIWFCIY has been hitting the top spot for four years in an row, give me a fat effing non-delusional break. Mariah and her team haven't sat their asses down, they have been pushing AIWFCIY way more aggressively than Brenda and her team. Brenda didn't write RATCT, she basically doesn't profit much from it. Stop with the paranoia and conspiracy theories. Wait, I think you're right, the illuminati and Brenda are working together. Who is Brenda sacrificing for the top spot? A lamb, maybe. Who has been boycotting that frail old lady Brenda for four years now? Miss You Most (At Christmas) (104,396) by jaker20 from US (Monday 4 December 2023; 19:51) I'm thinking Mariah walking on the streets of Paris like that Say Somethin' video but less sexy. But Mariah's Christmas image is festive so I don't know if she'll be up for it. But look at Last Christmas, which is a sad song. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,387 by jaker20 from US (Monday 4 December 2023; 06:02) It gives me the feels the classic feels. I think this song deserves a proper video. One that has a story, similar to Wham's Last Christmas. Same with "When Christmas Comes". Both are original MC Christmas songs too. Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,395) by jaker20 from US (Monday 4 December 2023; 19:02) Pedro's post isn't paranoia, is it actually true. I'm not sure you fulling understand how it works. A few days ago, you said labels have no control, and I explained to you how that is not true. Labels can influence placement on playlists through Discovery Mode. It is a feature for artists which is some kind of digital payola, where labels received reduced royalty in exchange for prioritized placement. It is not pay by play, but if you understand algorithms, it is very effective. The placement of a song in a playlist with millions of users is very consequential. Im not sure why you're comparing it to you playlist lol. They are not the same. Regular users normally plays a playlist pushed to them by the app, and then stop at a certain point. So makes a massive difference. So the past few weeks, Mariah has not been added on some of the biggest curated playlists, until recently. Brenda's song has been on playlists mentioned below that often doesn't even have to do with Christmas. And that already works against Mariah in terms of boost from algorithms. It has a slower headstart. Like I said, Brenda's team has been aggressive this year and we give them that credit. Mariah's hasn't, probably they felt they didn't need it which I think is a mistake. 4 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,392 by Edward from USA (Monday 4 December 2023; 15:55) That's not boycott or illegal. You don't have to listen to those playlists. Most people have their own playlists anyway, and Spotify is not the only streaming platform. Brenda wasn't at the top of some of those playlists before. Was she being boycotted since AIWFCIY hit number one? I thought we had moved on from the paranoia lambs tend to have about some mega powerful entity coming for Mariah. AIWFIY and RATCT are the Christmas hits they are because millions of people love them and got them there. You can discount, you can gift, you can pray, you can throw a lambtrum, but all that won't make a song popular or hit if people don't like it. Miss You Most (At Christmas) (104,387) by jaker20 from US (Monday 4 December 2023; 06:02) It gives me the feels the classic feels. I think this song deserves a proper video. One that has a story, similar to Wham's Last Christmas. Same with "When Christmas Comes". Both are original MC Christmas songs too. 3 likes reply We lost the #1 (104,371) by jaker20 from US (Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:19) Spotify US has around 45M users, while Apple has around 30. There's also a tiered system in Billboard where ad supported streams are counted, even though they are given lesser points, but Spotify ad supported subs is more than double their paid subscribers. That's been the case for many years now. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,369 by Edward from USA (Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:36) Apple Music is bigger than Spotify here in America. While I would agree Spotifiy is bigger worldwide, local streaming is what counts towards the Hot 100. Mariah is ahead of Brenda on Apple Music. Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,366) by jaker20 from US (Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46) What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber. 2 likes reply We lost the #1 (104,365) by jaker20 from US (Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39) I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one. Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top. 4 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,363 by Zachariah from Croatia (Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:31) But guys, it is [the] start of December. [If] she doesn't score [a] number one this week, she will do it next week. Trust me. Mariah vs Brenda (104,344) by jaker20 from US (Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:51) I'm responding to your post about you saying "the music industry does not have much control over anything anymore" which is incorrect. And everything you explained contradicted yourself. 3 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,341 by Edward from USA (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51) Being triggered is one thing, but basically sabotaging an artist so they won't be number one is a different monster. Brenda's team's making sure she is promoting, she has a new video, she's giving interviews, she's on Tik Tok, she has an EP with different versions of the song. They are just making sure the song has the best chance at hitting the top spot, it's business. Just like Mariah has been doing it for years. Mariah vs Brenda (104,337) by jaker20 from US (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17) Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right. Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond. I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it. But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake. As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic. 7 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,329 by Robert-Anthony from United States (Saturday 2 December 2023; 14:05) The music business isn't a sweet easy going industry. Every artist will tell you that including sweet Dolly Parton. Record executives aren't playing nice when they are promoting a song to get it to number #1. There are some underhanded strategies being done behind the scenes to make it happen at the UMG executive offices. If RATCT goes to number #1, a huge television media frenzy will be made about it that week. Just my two cents from Texas. Mariah vs Brenda (104,336) by jaker20 from US (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:15) Um Spotify has its own version of digital payola, with reduced royalties for some kind algorithmic boost via playlists. And Brenda's team have been very aggressive this year, having multiple versions included in playlists and having it strangest playlists like pop and teen playlists. These are Spotify curated playlists. 4 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,333 by Edward from USA (Saturday 2 December 2023; 17:48) Robert-Anthony, the music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone. They can't influence streaming platforms to block users from playing the music they like, radio just goes along with what's trending or they stay out of the game. Fans have more control, instead of calling like crazy to request, we just go and stream, everything is way different. As I have stated, these two songs have legs of their own, the one that makes it to number one will be based on its own merit and promotional push on big events. AIWFCIY is a pure number 1, people keep buying it after all these years, they keep playing it and streaming it, no gimmicks. If Mariah really wanted, she could break The Beatles' record, just three great collabs with Drake, Ariana and Taylor Swift should take her there. I don't really care for that record though, the way things are, Taylor will eventually top them both. Would you rather (104,290) by jaker20 from US (Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:47) Brand new album. That is how she stays relevant. Even if it's not a blockbuster hit, a good album is a good album, and it eventually reaches new fans. That is what happened to Caution, its impact was slow burn. And in my opinion, it set the stage for the smashing return of AIWFCIY in 2018/2019. She needs to go back to releasing albums. That's her starter pack for the new gen to her classics. 7 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,264 by Tevin from USA (Tuesday 28 November 2023; 18:50) I'm quite curious to read everyone's opinion. For 2024, would you rather have Mariah releases a 10 to 12 tract Rarities 2 album, where half of the songs are never before heard songs, or would you rather see here release a brand new 10 to 12 song studio album? Who is Jack Harlow? (104,251) by jaker20 from US (Monday 27 November 2023; 21:31) He also had a big no.1 hit last year with First Class which heavily samples Glamorous by Fergie, who imo, like Mariah in BE got screwed over and due to a bunch of technicalities did not get credited. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,233 by Robert-Anthony from United States (Sunday 26 November 2023; 12:53) Jack Harlow is popular today because of his song What's Poppin went viral on Tik Tok. Lil Wayne, Tory Lanez, and Da Baby jumped on the remix and reached #2 on the Hot 100. He got a Grammy nomination and XXL Magazine named him apart of the 2020 Freshman class. His new song Lovin On Me is a R&B sample of 1995 Cadillac Dale's song Whatever (Bass Solique) and it is another Tik Tok viral sensation. Amy Grant album Heart In Motion (104,250) by jaker20 from US (Monday 27 November 2023; 21:26) What a great album. All the while I was thinking, maybe this is the direction that Mariah should take? Midtempo songs that are pop but have a classic sound to them. Light bops and not too serious, it reminds me of a bunch of pop songs that all sounds like Always Be My Baby. 4 likes reply AIWFCIY (104,249) by jaker20 from US (Monday 27 November 2023; 20:59) Is now 50th biggest hit ever in BB charts. It will continue to climb in the next couple of weeks and enter top 40, becoming MC's 3rd in the chart, after OSD and WBT. By the end of this season it could be the 15th biggest hit ever, surpassing The Beatles' Hey Jude. Needless to say, next year will be big huge year for Mariah, with the MC album's 30th anniversary. 5 likes reply Mariah now most streamed female on Apple Music (104,208) by jaker20 from US (Friday 24 November 2023; 18:00) This is why she will never give up on Christmas. It rubs off on her entire catalog. 11 likes reply View from here (104,195) by jaker20 from US (Friday 24 November 2023; 02:25) It was a very noticeable shift. Immediately right after the TMB video, she was completely different in how she carries herself. Like I said, that video is probably the last time that we've seen Mariah move as much. So clearly whatever it is that caused her being stiff happened immediately after that. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,191 by Andrew from United Kingdom (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:54) I was actually thinking of the E=MC2 era and particularly the TMB video and the presenting of the Friday Night Project. Mariah was so animated and fun. Can you imagine what the show would be like if she presented TFNP now? Well Jamie wouldn't have gone, for a start lol and I might get his name right. I'm an idiot. Stiffness (104,194) by jaker20 from US (Friday 24 November 2023; 01:53) And I am entitled to call you out and exposing you for what you really are, and what I have seen you posting around here, posting, unprovoked anti-LGBTQ comments, purely for the intention of maligning the community. You should be ashamed of yourself. 7 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,189 by Edward from USA (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:35) I'm entitled to say it. Yes, we, the alphabet people, can be overly sensitive and dramatic about simple shit. I didn't think about it, I didn't disguise it, I didn't imply it, I simply said it. It's not microaggression, it's me exercising my right to say whatever I want. The fact you had to reply to it just proves my effing point. And just in case you want to come with the "shut up white straight man", I'm neither white nor straight, not that there's anything wrong with that either. So, whenever I want, I'll say what's in my mind about our loving and inclusive community. Stiffness (104,188) by jaker20 from US (Thursday 23 November 2023; 22:29) Over-sensitive alphabet people? Why bring unnecessarily shady and passive aggressiveness here. This is now the 3rd time I've read these microaggressions in a few weeks and it's just so sickening. I'll leave it to the mod if you want to post this reply but for a fanbase that's heavy on LGBTQs this sure is lacking tolerance. 8 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,186 by Edward from USA (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:50) Mariah mounts herself on heels so high not even the most experienced Drag Queen could walk on them. Not implying Sam Smith is a Drag Queen, just in case one of the over sensitive alphabet people might want to start a cat fight, but he seems to to be very careful when walking on those platforms he mounts himself on. Another thing, after her accident while filming the video for "#Beautiful", she's definitely being more careful. Justice for Can't Let Go (104,185) by jaker20 from US (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:28) What a beautiful song. The lyrics and the beats sounds timeless. And I love her hair in the video. 7 likes reply This is a reply to message 104,160 by Brad from USA (Wednesday 22 November 2023; 03:36) Is any one else still pissed off this song didn't go to #1? I am. Ok bye. If we could get this song to #1 on iTunes Mariah would flip out because she knows this should have been a #1. I recall all those weeks waiting and waiting for it to pop from #2 to #1. Don't ever forget how frigging flawless that video was too. She looked so beautiful in that. View from here (104,184) by jaker20 from US (Thursday 23 November 2023; 21:16) Mariah have been stiff in the last 15 years. If anything, she's moving a bit more now. I don't think its the lipo or any procedure. For me, this really started during the release of E=MC2, and my suspicion is right after her miscarriage which would be around the release of Bye Bye. She was pretty active in the Touch My Body video. When was the last time you've seen her move like that? So that is why I attribute it to her miscarriage. And I don't even think it's physical. It's more like mental or psychological or something. But hey, I am not a doctor. Because that is also the moment when she adapted this Paris Hilton/Mean Girls image: super high heels she can barely walk on, super tight skirts ripe for slips that looks uncomfortable to move in. There's a sudden change in how she carried herself in that moment, and it didn't go away, she became a mother and so forth. I would believe medications before I believe lipo, and I hope I'm wrong because I actually prefer the latter. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,177 by MC1989 from Spain (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:04) Maybe the extreme stiffness is due to a recent lipposuction and a recent face lift? I don't know. Maybe she's recovering from recent surgeries. Because even though since 2010 her stage performances became very low energy in terms of movements and dancing, she was never this stiff. Though I'm enjoying some iconic moments from these Christmas shows, I share your thoughts about her recent awkward stiffness and lack of face expresion. I also feel good about her success with these shows, from the videos I've seen, people are enjoying them a lot and she's singing in front of big audiences again. Christmas songs (early bird special) (104,154) by jaker20 from US (Tuesday 21 November 2023; 17:49) 20 songs in the chart, and then disappear the following week. Mariah should do something big next year during the album's 30th anniversary and have every song chart. Anyway, Brenda could take it this year. Mariah will probably do something big next year, so if she gets a couple of weeks this year, she'll probably take the record back next year. But she should do a good festive video every 2 years anyway, since that is all she is doing now. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,149 by Edward from USA (Tuesday 21 November 2023; 13:56) Only four Christmas songs re-entered the Hot 100 this week. 17. All I Want for Christmas Is You 32. Las Christmas 38. Jingle Bell Rock 44. A Holly Jolly Christmas If there's a possibility for any song other AIWFCIY to hit No. 1 this year, in my opinion, that would be Last Christmas. I'm tired of seeing Taylor Swift with 20 songs on the top 10. Tour outfits (104,153) by jaker20 from US (Tuesday 21 November 2023; 17:37) I do like that head crown but Beyonce and a few other artists already did it so it has less of an impact. It should have been like halo stars instead so it's slightly different. Mariah needs to find something that is unique to her since she is doing this every year. 5 likes reply So beautiful in Billboard Awards (104,131) by jaker20 from US (Monday 20 November 2023; 05:01) I have said it before, but if Mariah had stuck with her skincare beauty and makeup products, she would have an empire that is bigger than Rihanna's multi-billion dollar Fenty, or even at least bigger than Gaga's Haus Labs. Mariah's beauty is much more timeless. 10 likes reply Mop the Floor song (104,121) by jaker20 from US (Sunday 19 November 2023; 05:16) Lol. Wacky. This woman is too much lol. 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,108 by enwar00 from usa (Saturday 18 November 2023; 14:53) I guess despite being an emotionless stiff she still has humor. Can Mariah beat The Beatles? (104,100) by jaker20 from US (Friday 17 November 2023; 22:37) If she's scared to take it, Taylor Swift will. She seems more fearless (no pun). 1 like reply This is a reply to message 104,096 by Matty from Vancouver Canada (Friday 17 November 2023; 19:34) I think Mariah could absolutely best The Beatles, but I remember her saying in an interview years back that she's afraid to eclipse their standing because people would throw a fit. She mentioned things were already heated enough when she surpassed Elvis. If Mariah got credit on BBE, and her feature on Unforgettable with French Montana were the main, standard versions, plus Migrate being single 2 from EMC2, and Loverboy Firecracker version getting a proper push, she'd be there. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... 19

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