Messageboard

About jaker20 from US: You Will Never Be MC

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,526) by jaker20 from US I think it's a big misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure Mariah's already probably contacted her. I just don't want Mariah to be getting into these petty stuff anymore. She's no longer a pop girl. But a lot of lambs are still stuck on stirring stuff like these. I hope Mariah will connect with everyone who did her wrong, and move on with her life. That will be a true legacy. (Wednesday 26 November 2025; 17:56) this is a reply to message 112,520

Article: Muni Long says she meant no "disrespect" to Mariah Carey (112,520) by Dove from United States Well at least she cleared it up. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was trying to be funny like Lambily said and it just didn't come out right. I mean if Mariah Carey said that about me I'd be heartbroken, even though I genuinely don't think Mariah meant it as shade towards her. Just because she looked genuinely confused. It seemed like she thought she covered it on an album or something. She was equally confused when they were playing Clarissa's version of Someone's Ugly Daughter in that interview with SZA (who I recently discovered and I really love BTW). I think she thought they were playing the version with her vocals on it. This whole year has been like she's in a fog. Which makes her so human to me. It makes me love her even more. (Wednesday 26 November 2025; 01:42)

Random thoughts (112,494) by jaker20 from US Mariah's merch is not good lol because I think she is the one managing it. She no longer knows what is cool. She needs to hand them over to younger people to create ideate merch for her. I have not bought any Mariah merch, but instead gone back to collecting CDs, vinyl and tapes. They're on a glass display that I just put together last year. I used to have some rare collectibles I bought in record stores, but I regretted selling them. Now her Christmas merch is another, they are actually pretty good, especially the tumbler and the snow globe. But I'm sorry, her non-Christmas merch is ugly, she needs to update them to the 21st century lol I don't think that is Mariah's forte. That is why all her partnerships in the past didn't work, just like Black Irish, and her perfume. (Monday 24 November 2025; 19:53) this is a reply to message 112,485

Random thoughts (112,485) by Dove from United States I don't know if the people Taylor has working for her are younger or what, but she jumps on every marketing opportunity and puts out fun merch that you'd actually want to buy. I know a lot of us Mariah fans, we're older now, but we've been with her since we were kids. She brings out the kid in me. Not just because I've been a fan since I was a kid but also because she's like a big kid herself. Some of the merch I like, but a lot of it has been a miss for me. A while ago I got some of her wrapping paper that was fun. It had the cartoon version of her and her dog. I wrapped up some empty boxes with it and I put them out every year as decoration. Now her wrapping paper and annual ornaments just have her name or initials. It's quality paper but it's not fun. I'd rather buy fun wrapping paper at Home Goods than use that. I liked the Swarovski snowflake she had a few years back. Couldn't she do an ornament collaboration with Waterford like Elton John has? Release one every year? Or I've seen advertised some really cute advent calendars with each window having a mini figure of Mariah in her most famous ensembles. It's a scam, and 2D, but it would be cute if they were real. You could sell that for $120 ($10 per figure that probably cost a few dollars to make). I think people would buy it. But if it's quality. Not the ugly deformed faces the Hallmark ornaments have had in recent years. I've already said I prefer blow molds to inflatables. I like to use the same stuff year after year. Some of her merch is cute. I like the denim jacket and one of the sweatshirts she had the year she had the concert in New York during covid. Her kids were wearing it. But to get this stuff to sell you kind of need a promotional vehicle. Like with Disney. I know Disney would get a big cut but it's good marketing because it would reinforce the queen of Christmas idea and introduce kids to her voice. Maybe they could use the recordings of her when she was younger from the original Merry Christmas. I don't know how that works. (Just because if the Princess is a young girl she needs to sound young.) It would be nice if they included the duet with her mom as a tribute. Like, recreating the video in cartoon form. A few years ago I saw a short (reel?) of Kris Jenner's wrapping paper she made for her kids. It had drawings of her kids on it and it was really good. I'm not sure who the artist was but hire her for the wrapping paper. Or there's also an artist I've seen on Facebook whom I really like. I just looked her up, the page is called Hayden Williams Illustrations. That would be fun wrapping paper. (Or art prints.) (Monday 24 November 2025; 14:59)

AIWFC and In Your Feelings (112,472) by jaker20 from US Some thoughts: I think at the very least, AIWFCIY get at least 1 week on top this year, tying the record. But it will be very close this year. Last Christmas nearly beat it on Thursday, and it's close again yesterday. Bruno Mars: I don't understand why lambs are spreading this bs, it's not going to happen. In Your Feelings is doing well on urban radio but those are pay for play. They're not organic. I think if they want to push it as a single, they should do it after the holidays. Right now, it is hurting AIWFCIY this year, her team is not focused and neither are fans. The more they push In Your Feelings right now, the more both will fail. Last year, she had promos and photoshoots about the new vinyl covers, there was a lot from her during the first weeks of November. But this year, because of HFIA, Mariah is likely already worn out and you can feel it from the lack of activity from her and her team. And that slight dip of push from her team have a big impact on algorithms for AIWFC. We'll see. (Sunday 23 November 2025; 04:23) this is a reply to message 112,469

A lukewarm reception and a seven year absence (112,469) by T from USA It's Time... to let the Christmas thing go and do its own thing. I actually prefer the it's time announcement and that's it in terms of promoting AIWFCIY. Less is more now. The song has gone to #1 for eighteen weeks. After this year she will own the record for longest #1 hit, that's enough for me. Even if it never hits the top spot again after this year that will be okay and the song will always be legendary. HFIA suffered not from the long wait but from Christmas itself. That's all people want from Mariah, and all she wants is you. (Saturday 22 November 2025; 14:15)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,373) by jaker20 from US This is a real piece of history. It really shows how Mariah's break out is like no other. He said: "She writes like Madonna and sings like Whitney, I've discovered gold" is how he described her and he was mind-blown. This is why there will never be another Mariah. There will be a lot of great voices, and lot of great lyrics, but there will never be another one who mixed the two in a way she has. I love how the comments are saying "give it back to her". (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 18:28) this is a reply to message 112,372

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,372) by BFF from United States I 100 percent think that this is what will happen. Mariah will definitely see the news about the auction and will surely be able to outbid anyone in the process. She has spoken at length about how she believes her demos were superior to what ended up on the debut album. This would be an incredible opportunity to once and for all silence the people who claim that she would have not been successful without Tommy. After watching Arthur Baker's video, I am interested to know about the other seven songs that he didn't listen to. I wonder how many songs from the demo ended up on the album. Surely there is something on there we haven't heard. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 17:10)

Another #1 (112,371) by jaker20 from US There's a lot of artist that can sing, it's just this era does not appreciate it anymore and have a negative perception of them. Especially the power vocals style of singing. Singing competitions and social media made that genre ubiquitous, you see influencers with hundreds of thousands of followers and have stunning voices but are not even in the industry and don't even want to make money off their talent. It's devalued the style. So Mariah and other industry talents are grouped with that perception. She has an image issue. I think the last real vocalist who was big in pop is Adele and even she does not sound like she used to, nor seems to have interest in making more records. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 16:27) this is a reply to message 112,342

Another #1 (112,342) by Lambi from USA Honestly it's kind of sad the new girls can't really sing. We still have Beyoncé and Ariana somewhat holding it down but these Billie Eilish, Sabrina Carpenter, Dua Lipa and Olivia Rodrigo types truly don't hold a candle to the 1990-2005 pop girlies. I miss when Mariah, Whitney, Celine all just took turns at being number one. The Beyoncé, Christina Aguilera, Kelly Clarkson era was also such a time. (Tuesday 11 November 2025; 10:59)

Nothing is Impossible (112,370) by jaker20 from US While I love that song, In Your Feelings is what they should support and do a video. It seems to be taking off on the radio, and that's without promo. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 16:15) this is a reply to message 112,356

Nothing is Impossible (112,356) by Dove from United States I'm listening to NII right now since a lot of people say it should have been a single. I do really like it but the start doesn't immediately capture my attention. That's why I don't think it would have been the best option for radio or playlists. If it popped up on a playlist for me, and I wasn't already a Mariah fan, I would skip to the next song. I like it for a movie because you're kind of forced to listen to the whole thing that way, or at least a longer part of it. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 01:50)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,369) by jaker20 from US Oh I didn't see its on the actual article, I thought it usually shows up on the page. Shezz's posted a video and it's incorrect and that's what I saw first lol. [Webmaster: The video Shezz posted is not incorrect. He was talking about the same demo tape auction, not Mariah's demo tape.] (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 16:13) this is a reply to message 112,367

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,367) by jaker20 from US You all have to watch the video straight from the guy. Webmaster you can edit the article, it's right her. [Webmaster: Why should I edit the article? I already posted a link to the video.] It's even better. Very fascinating. It is literally like the guy saw the future that Mariah will explode. And that's exactly how it turned out, the public has not seen anything like her before. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 14:33)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,368) by jaker20 from US Shezz, that is not the same demo tape. That's What's Love Got To Do With It. This is the right video. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 16:09)

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,367) by jaker20 from US You all have to watch the video straight from the guy. Webmaster you can edit the article, it's right her. [Webmaster: Why should I edit the article? I already posted a link to the video.] It's even better. Very fascinating. It is literally like the guy saw the future that Mariah will explode. And that's exactly how it turned out, the public has not seen anything like her before. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 14:33) this is a reply to message 112,363

Article: Mariah Carey's rare demo tape hits auction (112,363) by Bill from the UK Wow. I hope Mariah bids and wins the auction and then releases this gem for us all to enjoy. (Wednesday 12 November 2025; 08:34)

It's not going to happen (112,337) by jaker20 from US Apparently top 15 is very possible this week. It is a lot stronger this year. (Tuesday 11 November 2025; 02:15) this is a reply to message 112,334

It's not going to happen (112,334) by Edward from USA For the Grinch who keeps trying, unsuccessfully, to cancel Christmas: give it up. It's not going to happen. "All I Want for Christmas Is You" is set to re-enter the Billboard Hot 100 this week at #31. (Monday 10 November 2025; 20:20)

Another #1 (112,323) by jaker20 from US When people hear "vocalist" they think American Idol or The Voice. These reality TV competitions have beaten that art form to the ground. When people think vocal performance in current pop music, they think Billie Eilish or maybe even Sabrina. I love their voices, I love Bird of a Feather, but that's how "good vocals" sound to post millenials. And if you are belting, they think 90s or Idol. The only way Mariah would have a hit is if she's a featured artist, or a movie soundtrack, because the song is associated to the movie, and not to her. By that same point, that made AIWFCIY a classic, because it reminds people of those magical days. Mariah will never be both, she can only be a Christmas artist or not. (Sunday 9 November 2025; 18:27) this is a reply to message 112,300

Another #1 (112,300) by Anonymous from USA I don't think Mariah will get another #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 that's not All I Want For Christmas. As much as I'd like so see it happen, it's very unlikely. I don't mean to count her out. She's clearly very talented. But the problem is, in my humble opinion, she's not relatable at all. Some might even say she's not real. They know who she is, but they "don't know her". As much as she presents herself to be real, a lot of people are not buying it, and therefore not buying her records. Maybe she'll prove me wrong with another hit. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. (Friday 7 November 2025; 21:53)

Mariah set to re-enter Billboard Hot 100 earlier than ever (112,297) by jaker20 from US Just as I expected: her new studio album releases helps her Christmas catalog, but it won't be the other way around. Just like how Caution pushed a huge boost to AIWFCIY before it hit no.1 the year after. (Friday 7 November 2025; 18:34)

Angel Prelude from Memoirs (112,139) by jaker20 from US Is charting on iTunes. Mariah really need to put her magic connections and release Angels Advocate remix album. I know I kept harping about it but I really think if she does, that album will blow up. (Wednesday 29 October 2025; 19:51)

New tour date alert: February 2026 (112,069) by jaker20 from US I think that's just one day, it's not really a tour. (Friday 24 October 2025; 03:33) this is a reply to message 112,055

New tour date alert: February 2026 (112,055) by T from USA Mariah already has a new concert booked in the middle east for early February next year. I don't understand, does she need the money that bad? Or is her so called team going to run her into the ground like Amy Winehouse? Either way, the lamb followers are going to make excuses and call it a "one off" or "just for the fans" but the truth is these enablers are going to end up killing her. (Thursday 23 October 2025; 15:43)

Which song would've you picked? (112,059) by jaker20 from US Hindsight is 20/20 but if we can see the future, I would have just released My Love if its up to me. Type Dangerous sounds it tried appeal to the chart, but it does not fit into the album. It sticks out. It's only a good single if the entire album have that same spirit, which is club, hip-hop and modern a bit edgy, t-shirts and tight booty shorts aesthetics. Type Dangerous isn't her anymore, unless she miraculously one day learns choreo. Then Sugar Sweet again sounds different like a different direction. The album isn't like those. And she can't sustain that sound and look anyway as this point of her career. Even on the promo circuit she looks madam which is her, it supports the album's style. So in comes My Love which is classic Mariah. It's a remake, but it is her right now, soulful, delicate, intimate, ethereal. And it represents the album's sound and her current aesthetics. Then follow up with Play this Song or Confetti or I won't Allow It. I'm literally choosing songs no one would think would chart", but that is the point. She is still chasing the chart, go high enough, but she can't really go all the way because that is not her anymore. I think the only way Mariah will have some chart success again is either completely change her sound to fit into current pop landscape (not gong to happen), stop making Christmas music because her image is to associated with it (not going to happen), collab with new artist (she's tried that, didn't work), or be on a soundtrack of a hit film or series (works only by chance if the stars are aligned). So I think its time for Mariah to just be Mariah, and then maybe she will chart Because that's something she can embody moving forward. She doesn't have to change herself. Think Nora Jones in the 2000s, no belting, just smooth soul, velvety vocals. (Thursday 23 October 2025; 18:38) this is a reply to message 112,026

Which song would've you picked? (112,026) by T from USA We all know now that Type Dangerous was the single that they all agreed was the best to launch the era and album. Now that we've lived with all the songs for a month which of the eleven songs would've you put all the resources into like radio deal, big budget music video, performances behind? Is there even one song that deserves all that or was TD the right choice? (Wednesday 22 October 2025; 15:51)

The impossible (111,998) by jaker20 from US I'm glad fans are waking up to Memoirs. I loved it from the first listen. It's turned out to be Mariah's most listened to album in the streaming era, excluding Merry Christmas of course. I really hope Mariah pull out all the stops to release Angel's Advocate, unlikely but not being able to stream Angels Cry remix is wrong. (Monday 20 October 2025; 05:46) this is a reply to message 111,987

The impossible (111,987) by Dove from United States I've always loved MOAIA but my love for it has grown over the years. My favorite lately is Inseparable. Especially the part where she sings "But now I see that no one is Inseparable - except for us." I love it. I also really love the part in Boy (I Need You) at 2:37. She sings "And never let you go boy, never let you go boy" and right after that line, right before the rap comes in, she sings either "they" or "babe" but I love how it sounds. It gives me life every time I hear it. (Sunday 19 October 2025; 17:29)

Christian Aguilera (111,962) by jaker20 from US She's got a Christmas concert movie coming up and it will be released theatrically. How did she beat Mariah to it lol. I say Mariah's team is working hard, but not working smart. (Saturday 18 October 2025; 02:10)

Philippines (111,957) by jaker20 from US Wow, the lamb fandom there is on another level. They know every deep cuts lyrics to a T. (Friday 17 October 2025; 19:16) this is a reply to message 111,943

Philippines (111,943) by Lambi from USA It's true. Philippines have such a mind-boggling singing culture. It's truly no surprise they flock when the greatest singer of all time is in town. I've heard a few of their local singers, and they're actually pretty good. I wish MCPhilippines got Mariah to sit down and be serenaded. They hold parties and events all the time. They got this girl to sing Lead The Way and she really studied the song. I felt she actually did it justice. Mariah would've been proud and be inspired and feel fulfilled, realizing she really did teach the next generations how to sing. Someone from this board that's in that fan club should present this idea next time she visits. We are sick of the generic Hero WBT tributes. We want the deep cuts like that girl did. (Friday 17 October 2025; 11:39)

Here For It All (111,923) by jaker20 from US I too have started collecting Mariah physicals again. I stopped CDs after MOAIA, but over time felt that streaming really don't have a connection with the artist. Then started collecting vinyls. I got HFIA on CD and vinyl, but stream them when I'm out. I think Mariah's albums have actual value because they don't make millions of them anymore. I believe this happened in some stores with HFIA, because they released only as much as Caution because, I suspect, pre-orders were low. There's many reports that they can't find stocks, and ended up ordering on Amazon. That's another generational gap, fans of legacy acts don't pre-order, they buy them when they're at the stores or at the merch shop at their tour venues. (Thursday 16 October 2025; 19:15) this is a reply to message 111,915

Here For It All (111,915) by MusicfanJ from Germany I buy music (cd's, mp3s). But mostly cd's. I know I'm retro, but I love to collect music and movies. I need something which I can look at and collect. It's like a treasure of art. (Thursday 16 October 2025; 10:30)

Here For It All (111,877) by jaker20 from US There is more to those numbers. The album did drop to 187 on Hot 200, but on sales it's still in the top 10. This really goes to show how messed up and useless the charts currently are. It leans way too heavily towards streaming, which doesn't really benefit most artists' pocketbooks. The keyword here is "sell". The charts are obscuring these details with "album equivalent units", because in reality, no one "sells" to profitability anymore in the same level that it used to, and that's a bad look for the industry. So when someone says: "Mariah didn't even sell as much as Doja Cat", that need to correction. Mariah did actually "sell" more than Doja Cat, in the US and certainly globally. The charts just obscures it. Equivalent sales unit will never equal sales, however the industry tries to convince us that it is. And as such, it will always be rigged against legacy artists. (Wednesday 15 October 2025; 02:17) this is a reply to message 111,871

Here For It All (111,871) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands In its second week, Here For It All drops 180 spots to number 187 on Billboard's Hot 200. (Wednesday 15 October 2025; 00:16)

More thoughts (111,857) by jaker20 from US It's unfortunate that she will always be viewed within the lens of commercial success over the quality but it is partly her making for building her career that way so it's not necessarily wrong I guess. Before the release of the album, I thought it won't be possible to be the queen of Christmas and have a hugely successful non-Christmas album. I just don't see how the public will shift between the two. If she wants to do both, it would have to be at the expense of somewhat ok studio albums success and she has to be ok with that. That means doing it multiple tries more regularly, not one album every 7 years. I think the covers album is sounding like a very good idea now, especially with how well My Love turned out. (Tuesday 14 October 2025; 06:38) this is a reply to message 111,855

More thoughts (111,855) by Edward from USA Exactly my point. "HFIA" actually performed well, especially for a legacy artist. Ed Sheeran's "Play" debuted at #5 on the Billboard 200, then dropped to #40, #83, and fell off completely, and that was with three charting singles beforehand: "Azizam" peaked at #28, "Sapphire" at #74, and "Old Phone" at #89. Katy Perry's "143" debuted at #6, just about 1K above Mariah's numbers, then plunged to #76 before disappearing from the Top 200 altogether. Considering how long it's been since Mariah released a new album, her numbers are actually ok, especially compared to other legacy artists and their recent releases. We really need to cut Mariah some slack. I knew Katy Perry would have to eat her words eventually. She once shaded Mariah by saying, "Mariah would be good for a throwback," implying she was no longer relevant. Funny how things turn out, just a few years later, it's Katy's own career that came crashing down. (Tuesday 14 October 2025; 02:25)

More thoughts (111,853) by jaker20 from US "Are the big labels doing better? I don't know what to think." The last releases from Katy Perry, Doja Cat, Shania Twain, Carrie Underwood, Miley Cyrus, Ellie Goulding did either around same or worse than HFIA. But for pure sales, Mariah did better than all of them. P.nk and Selena Gomez did better but didn't even do gold, nor produced any top 40 single. Alicia Key's last 2 albums didn't even chart. Justin Bieber's last album did significantly better in streaming, but did pitiful 6K pure sales, significantly worse than Mariah's. Jack Harlow did much worse. Maroon 5's last 2 album significantly did worse than Mariah's pure sales, the last one didn't even chart top 20. Ed Sheeran's album did slightly better than HFIA but came and went. Save for a few like Taylor and Bruno Mars, not many are actually doing all that good right now. Ariana, Beyonce's and Lady Gaga's last albums are some of the "best selling" albums this year and last year. They also sold about the same as Glitter. As Lizzo has said, the industry is in shambles right now. (Tuesday 14 October 2025; 01:18) this is a reply to message 111,808

More thoughts (111,808) by Dove from United States I'm sorry about my outburst in my last post. I don't know what came over me. Even if everything had gone perfectly, I still don't think HFIA would have sold better than it did. I think those of us who are lifelong fans would have bought it even if she hadn't been on any TV shows. Everyone did everything right. They had her on all the right shows, her outfits were good, she looked beautiful, the album is solid. I don't know what you have to do to get a #1 hit these days. Do you guys really think Gamma is not happy with these numbers? I thought independent labels expected to sell less? Are the big labels doing better? I don't know what to think. (Saturday 11 October 2025; 06:10)

My single choices + videos (111,852) by jaker20 from US That's a good idea. "In Your Feelings" is actually gaining in Urban and R&B all by itself being a good song that it is. I just want a really good video from Mariah, can we get a good video? I'd rather her flop and make good videos. I'm surprised that she's not putting that effort even on her Christmas catalog. She should have a good new video every season. Now, enough time has passed, so I'm going to be honest: I don't think Type Dangerous is a good video. I'm glad it got her an MTV award, and that many here thinks it looks expensive. I actually think it looks very cheap, as in CGI greenscreen cheap. The Sugar Sweet clip of her doing whatever she's doing (I think she's trying TikTok choreo) is honestly embarrassing. And that Play That Song video looks shot on iPhone. I think I've said this a few times: I don't think Mariah's had a good video, since, maybe Obsessed. That's why that song has become an unexpected timeless hit for her because it's a good video. It has a concept that goes viral every now and then, and not necessarily expensive looking. Kids take a clip from it, and it goes viral. Mariah hasn't had a good video because she can't be directed. They likely just say to her: "Do what you feel like doing and hold the brush like a microphone." But her greatest videos always have a director who is in control of the creative process, who push her to do as instructed. And in this time of Mariah's career, she can't be told what to do and receive instructions, that's why she can't even do basic choreo and make good videos anymore. (Monday 13 October 2025; 20:22) this is a reply to message 111,829

My single choices (111,829) by Bobby A from United States MC said today leaving Thailand that she thinks "In Your Feelings" will be the next single. It makes sense since Urban AC radio is playing it already. (Monday 13 October 2025; 00:45)

Retrospective moments (111,849) by jaker20 from US That is unfair to compare Mariah, who is a legacy act with 35 year career, to Morgan Wallen. You are basically setting her up. And of course they will hype the album. They won't actually say "we'd be happy if it does better than Miley Cyrus, Shania Twain and Katy Perry's last albums" which are all signed to major labels. (Monday 13 October 2025; 18:51) this is a reply to message 111,820

Retrospective moments (111,820) by Lambi from USA Morgan Wallen only did SNL, one festival, a couple of radio interviews, and a few YouTube acoustic sessions. He still pulled 493,000 units in his debut week. The timing of his tour helped, but the rollout was minimal. But do you know how much more Mariah did? • BET, iHeartRadio, the VMAs. • Ridiculous amount of podcast and radio interviews. • A jam-packed week of TV appearances close to release date. • In-store events, magazine covers. • Huge international festivals. • An Apple Music special. • A high-budget video for T:D. • Stripped versions of the album's songs. • Collaboration with other artists. • Three singles released. This is why we can confidently say her numbers are indeed pathetic. I don't fault Bobby A. for assuming something is suspicious. It's actually pretty valid. People keep saying, "Oh, she doesn't have to chart. Let's just enjoy it." But that's not what she said. Mariah made it clear, this was her goal. To finish strong. Had she not prefaced it like that, maybe the numbers wouldn't sting so much. She obviously didn't join a 400 million dollar company for a $39k debut. For the first time in a while, she was genuinely fired up about her career. She was locked in on pursuing a tangible goal. Part of me believes there's some truth in Bobby A's claim (deep in my dive right now), but another part of me believes the public has actually just checked out on her. The big promotional opportunities actually just backfired. People saw the VMAs. They saw how stiff, uninterested and lazy she was. Why in the world would anyone spend money on that? The free market will blatantly always tell you. The caricature of Mariah, the "lip-syncing phony" seems to have won. On one hand, I feel bad, but on another hand, I hope this truly wakes her up. She can post these fleeting weekly Billboard numbers to soften the blow, but we know she's embarrassed. And to be fair, who wouldn't be? Nonetheless, I am grateful Mariah truly doesn't let go. "They chase me down but I'm still rolling, something in me cannot be stolen, I will not break, I won't be broken, it's deep, can't you see?" I believe these are the words that echo in her mind as she journeyed this album. No groundbreaking single, but very solid songs. Nothing Is Impossible and Here For It All are on repeat. A good body of work indeed. And I believe she will get that 20th number one. This flop will just make her go harder. She's fully lost her ability to perform on stage, but the creativity is still as strong as ever. And it's really her creativity that always lands her at #1. (Sunday 12 October 2025; 14:09)

Mariah and Gamma (111,781) by jaker20 from US I just hope they release more videos. Even Caution had 3 videos released, and i'm sure Mariah can do more if she really wants to. Tate's You Broke Me First is literally just her walking in front of buildings, I don't think that's a costly video, especially now that Mariah's independent, she hopefully have a bit more options on how things get done and decided. (Thursday 9 October 2025; 22:55) this is a reply to message 111,773

Mariah and Gamma (111,773) by Edward from USA "Gamma is the right place for her, there's not a lot of pressure to produce, and it's all about her, not a hundred features. She has the best career now, she's just spoiled the fans that she has to be charting because a big part of her career is built on being a hitmaker. But she's doing just fine, and she's happy, and so should we. If Mariah makes more HFIA with middling chart position and be able to do what she wants, I would be happy." I couldn't have said it better myself. People just need to relax, support her, and enjoy the music. None of her one-off projects since "Caution" have matched the quality of any track on "HFIA", and I'm very happy about that. (Wednesday 8 October 2025; 23:11)

MORE MESSAGES