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Rainbow 25th anniversary was a great release (108,163) by jaker20 from US It has a lot of new gems in it. The extended Rainbow's End is one of the best remixes of last year, and I think it will slowly be a classic. If only Mariah put the same effort on Daydream, TEOM, MC OG this year. (Monday 10 February 2025; 18:09)

Frustrated lamb (108,162) by jaker20 from US That's how her career is right now: like she doesn't know what's going on or she doesn't care. When she performed With You a couple of years ago, it was at least a production. She times the chorus of the songs with the movement of the feathers, she walks where the dancer are in focus, etc etc. It was not dance choreo, but there was some production there and she's involved. Now she just walks out and let the dancers do their thing. To me that's a sign that she's not involved anymore. The production and dancers are do their thing and she's given some cues while she's maybe watching TV somewhere or baking. The lack of effort is reflection of her career right now. No effort, no releases. And from what we've seen, even walking is a huge effort for her. So maybe not even a phone call to collaborators because that's time consuming for her to dial the phone. Just none. (Monday 10 February 2025; 18:04) this is a reply to message 108,151

Frustrated lamb (108,151) by Brandon from USA The most recent clips from the 2025 shows are cringeworthy. In one clip, she was "singing" ILT and there was literally no expression on her face, no energy or anything. In another clip she's singing Fantasy and looks lost as though she's been told to follow the dancer around the stage. She's looking around like she has no idea what's going on in that moment. The comments on the videos were in shambles. MC can only keep this up for so long until mainstream media starts asking questions and she's forced to address it or stop performing until she gets herself together. Does no one on her team ever watch her performances back and see that something is wrong? This era is so frustrating as a lamb. (Sunday 9 February 2025; 20:38)

Frustrated lamb (108,161) by jaker20 from US Well in fairness, it's not like Trey himself is in the same level as when I'll Be There was released. Mariah's circle of collaborators is so small and the same people from 30 years ago and they're all in it together. And that's a downside of it. Because that also means she's not working with new talents, and getting inspired, she's not creating anymore. And her constantly hopping on to Vegas with no new material makes it worse. She have the holiday season where she's basically doing the same thing over and over. She got the Queen of Christmas label, which she does nothing about. If that's another artist, they would grab it and release a new Christmas album every year, or release a music video of an old Christmas song, or release a new collab every year, and she can't even do any of that. She's not even doing any new "act" or productions. Remember Bette Midler's shows? It's a show, there's an act each time she's on stage. Either getting into a basic choreo, or character, or creating a world of make believe on stage. Some artists collaborate when they're blocked, or they remix some of their old songs, they reinvent their materials. Cher turned into a club goddess late in her career and it became her biggest hit. Mariah meanwhile, she is not writing, she's not making new songs, she's not collaborating, she doesn't get into her show's act. She just walks out on stage and does her same old same old. Nothing new. She's just going through the motions right now. She actually looks completely bored. I would be too if I'm doing the same tired thing over and over for the last 30 years. It's all about waiting for December and see how the Billboard charts will look for her, nothing else. (Monday 10 February 2025; 17:53) this is a reply to message 108,159

Frustrated lamb (108,159) by Jamie from UK Problem with these stars are that all those around them are on the payroll and don't care as long as they are getting paid. I saw one clip of I'll Be There with Trey, his face was a picture trying to look unaffected by Mariah's lackluster vocals. You'd think he would be able to say something as they go so far back. But I guess he also doesn't want to upset the cash flow. (Monday 10 February 2025; 09:38)

Barbra and Mariah (108,135) by jaker20 from US Barbra: 36 studio albums, 12 compilations, and 15 soundtracks Mariah: 15 studio albums, 6 compilations. 0 soundtracks Do you see where I'm going here? 2 years later, the album she's saying already have 5 songs done, and she still can't finish it. And now Barbra, who is 82 is releasing another album, while Mariah is doing Vegas with no new song, not even a collab, a remix, or anything. It is so annoying that every single year, after very Christmas peaks, she can't come up with something, anything. Annoying and sad really. Forget voice or anything, I don't think she's got artistry left anymore tbh. Voice can be layered, remixed and be done with studio work. Artistry you can't, that's really what's she's lost. (Friday 7 February 2025; 23:10)

Ed Sheeran (107,863) by jaker20 from US Or maybe someone with a similar folksy sound. I always thought Always Be My Baby have that vibe. (Thursday 26 December 2024; 01:59) this is a reply to message 107,859

Ed Sheeran (107,859) by Bobby A from United States I agree wholeheartedly, but he is not as popular like he was in 2017-2021. (Wednesday 25 December 2024; 23:02)

Last Christmas (107,862) by jaker20 from US I think that's partly driven by this year being LC's 40th anniversary with various vinyl releases, documentary, etc, Columbia pulling all the stops this year. Its the same with RACTC 65th anniversary promo last year resulting to it reaching number one. And then this year Brenda is not even competitive. (Thursday 26 December 2024; 01:57) this is a reply to message 107,858

Last Christmas (107,858) by Edward from USA "Last Christmas" (24.55M) trailed "All I Want For Christmas Is You" (24.86M) by just over 1% in Spotify streams on Christmas Eve. I think "Last Christmas" will eventually be a number one. Hopefully, it happens after Lil Nas X hands the torch back to Mariah, he's been holding it up high for quite a few years now. (Wednesday 25 December 2024; 23:00)

Merry Christmas 3 (107,861) by jaker20 from US I think Mariah is more likely to make another Christmas album than any genre. At least that's what I get from her recent interviews. She sounds passionate about it and recently said that she's planning to record another classic Christmas song. Or maybe its just her feeling the season. Her Christmas catalog is turning out to be a monster success, maybe she wants to capture this moment. And with the current state of pop music being disposable, the timing for another Christmas album would be perfect for her. But that also means many disappoint longtime lambs. But that's where we are right now. Merry Christmas. (Thursday 26 December 2024; 00:58)

Article: Mariah and Anderson .Paak seen holding hands in Aspen (107,855) by jaker20 from US I feel like Ed Sheeran would complement Mariah's current voice more, they would blend a lot better with her current voice, and that would open a lot of potential collabs for her, pop with a blend of R&B but with 70s vibe is what I'm thinking. (Wednesday 25 December 2024; 20:25) this is a reply to message 107,853

Article: Mariah and Anderson .Paak seen holding hands in Aspen (107,853) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Do we really want Mariah X Bruno though? I mean don't get me wrong, I think Bruno is very talented and they'd complement each other vocally, but Mariah literally publicly shouted out Bruno and asked for a collab and he never responded. Leaving our queen on seen. (Wednesday 25 December 2024; 17:51)

Passion again (107,824) by jaker20 from US Mariah's career has turned out to be quite unique. It's incomparable and insane actually, if you think about it. Even The Beatles didn't get this kind of career re-peak. Mariah's non-Christmas tour this year ended up being the highest grossing R&B female tour, and then she had to prepare for her back to back international stadiums for China and Rio, so by Christmas season, she's already done so much. Then she got sick and skipped 2 sold out Christmas shows. She burned out. That's not what you'd think someone of Mariah's caliber would be doing in this stage of her career. I don't think she imagined her Christmas legacy would turn out like this, it's bringing in new lambs, and it's going to challenge the success she built in the past, because it gets bigger and bigger every year. It's a very attractive turn of events for her. So is there space for a new album? Lets see: She probably start planning for Christmas by [September] if not earlier. This year, she announced it around [August], probably start putting together the team then. So now this is something she will do every single year. Maybe she'll change it up by doing a few international Christmas dates. They been sending that message to her for years. And with the success of China and Rio this year, I can imagine she'll be doing that again a few times over. So she really only have a few months in a year for an album, and unless she is willing to commit at least 4-6 months to it, she won't release it. And I don't see her doing that. It's not a priority for her. If she does, it's likely an album or remixes, and even then she probably will hardly promote it. (Monday 23 December 2024; 03:11)

Passion on albums, or lack thereof (107,823) by jaker20 from US I'm puzzled why she's not lining up a banger immediately after Christmas when awareness is very high. She said last year that she's had 5 songs ready. So why is she not able to complete it? All she needs is one solid banger, or a collab. But she does not seem to have any interest in it, which is very puzzling. On her recent interview, it seems like she does not care. It sounds like she is getting all her life from Christmas catalog. And I understand, what a fantastic catalog it is. It brought her success into insane stratosphere levels. But its becoming clear that is losing her artist side. When really, all it takes is one song. Just one good song to carry an entire album. Very few artists want to invest in real albums anymore. It's good for newcomers to establish their names. But in the streaming era, it seems albums are so disposable. Artists put effort in full tracks and it takes a button press to skip. Even established names don't seem to care about albums. Beyonce abandoned hers, Ariana just recently said no new music anytime soon even after a successful album this year. Even Taylor's album has 26 or so songs, is that even an album anymore or just to gain streaming count. Adele said no new music anytime soon. I think Mariah is scared to release an album that will fail. I hope she just focus on 1. That's what Cher's Believe did. What a song it was and it carried an entire album. Otherwise, I don't really think she'll put effort into finishing one. (Monday 23 December 2024; 02:57)

Why WBT again? (107,482) by jaker20 from US I wish she had done a deeper cut from TEOM, that would make the gp think in its 20th anniversary that the album is a timeless classic full of bops. With that being said, it's amazing to see the new gen really feeling it. WB is a timeless pop song. It's amazing that it was created fairly quickly. She also looks great, which I think is part of the song's visuals. Which makes me think that maybe her "Believe" is just around the corner, and with the right song, it's going to come out of nowhere with a bang like Cher did. (Wednesday 9 October 2024; 01:02)

DFAU (107,443) by jaker20 from US This reminds me of Toni Braxton's remix performance of Unbreak My Heart remix, and also Mariah's own My All version at Diva's Live where she switched the end from ballad to upbeat, dance remix. That's what she should do with DFAU. Lambs don't seem to consider this song as one of her best, but I personally love it. But I would love a good twist. (Wednesday 2 October 2024; 22:45) this is a reply to message 107,441

DFAU (107,441) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So basically she did a mashup of the original with the Morales remix. Like she does a mash up for WBT with WBT desert storm remix during some performances. You can find the mashed up version on her Spotify, under the My All EP. (Wednesday 2 October 2024; 04:07)

Made For Me (remix) (107,381) by jaker20 from US I agree, I find myself putting this on loops. This one is a great addition to Mariah's collabs. (Saturday 21 September 2024; 21:52) this is a reply to message 107,363

Made For Me (remix) (107,363) by Billy from Greece I just love it. So addictive. I can't listen to it just one. Still on heavy rotation. Kudos to Muni Long as well. (Wednesday 18 September 2024; 21:56)

Brazil concert (107,380) by jaker20 from US The videos I'm seeing in Twitter looks so much fun. I hope you had a great time. (Saturday 21 September 2024; 21:52) this is a reply to message 107,366

Brazil concert (107,366) by Carlos from Brazil Guys, I am losing my mind thinking in just one day I will see Mariah live for the first time. I feel very blessed and I hope all the Brazilian lambs have the most amazing time. I also think she will deliver a historical performance at Rock in Rio. I will only attend the São Paulo concert. For you guys to see Rock in Rio live it will be available to stream on Globoplay. (Thursday 19 September 2024; 13:21)

Mariah's mom and sister both died on same day (107,281) by jaker20 from US I actually think her relationship with her mom being complicated, doesn't mean strained. We don't know the full facts. We've seen them together a lot, and they seem to get along. I see a lot of love there. Maybe by complicated it means her mom being in the middle, or just normal family disagreements like we all do. Again, we don't know to speculate. So I don't instantly believe her relationship with her mom is strained, we have not seen evidence of this. I think that part is overblown. (Tuesday 27 August 2024; 20:11)

Mariah's mom and sister died on the same day (107,274) by jaker20 from US You're making so many assumptions about Mariah and her relationship with her sister Morgan. You don't know how toxic or abusive their relationship was, or if there's anything at all. We don't know. We can't just bring ourselves into this. We've seen couples from divorces, and toxic family relationships where everyone's just better off if there's no contact at all. I'm sure the smart and resilient woman that she is, she has already given that plenty of thought, to do what's best for her. And now that she has kids, she even has even more to consider beyond herself. In the end. we and we do what is best for us, our experiences are different. (Tuesday 27 August 2024; 18:13) this is a reply to message 107,265

Mariah's mom and sister died on the same day (107,265) by Randy from USA Stop being so nasty all the time, especially since you're hiding. This may be complex so read slowly. Right now I think cutting people off is considered a flex. People brag about it. I understand doing it as a means to protect yourself. But it definitely shouldn't be done as a punishment or retaliation. Sometimes you must be the bigger person more than once because the other person is severely lacking. I am not criticizing MC for her handling of her abusive siblings. Hell, I would have cut Alison off too. But since I know MC through dozens of interviews, personal songs and a print memoir, I know she's a lot like me. We are both sensitive. And nothing knocks down the wall guarding a sensitive person more violently than regret. That is why people are hoping, not demanding, not forcing, her to have some sort of resolution with Morgan than involves some sort of regular communication. (Tuesday 27 August 2024; 12:56)

Mariah's mom and sister both died on same day (107,273) by jaker20 from US This is very sad. I'm glad Mariah had spent some time with her mom before she passed. Condolences to her and her family. (Tuesday 27 August 2024; 18:03)

Rainbow 25 (106,697) by jaker20 from US I love TGIFY but I felt like they had no chemistry. I agree that it probably would have been better if it's just Joe. Three artists is a bit of a crowd and on stage, it's even more crowded for her interact with. It's strange how that came about. As far as I know, Mariah's never talked about her collaboration with 98D when all of her collaborations have a story. With that said, I love the song itself, it's actually one of my most played songs in the album when I first had it. Sometimes, I wonder if she will ever add it on her setlist and 98D and Joe show up as a surprise. I love every single version of the song, including the jazzy one that she performed live a few years ago in Vegas, which she completely slayed by the way. (Saturday 15 June 2024; 04:39) this is a reply to message 106,675

Rainbow 25 (106,675) by BFF from United States I like this "Mariah Only" version of "Thank God I Found You." It provides new insight into the recording process for the single and demonstrates that the song was complete before she decided to add the guest artists. I've always liked the album version of the song (prefer it to the remix version) and thought it deserved to be a bigger hit than it was. It went to #1 but mostly based on single sales, not radio airplay. Maybe it would've worked better as a duet with Joe without 98 Degrees? I think the Make It Last version worked best in its iteration without the rap from Nas, but it feels more like a cover of "Make it Last Forever" than a remix of Mariah's song. There are very few elements of the original song in the remix. (Friday 14 June 2024; 12:13)

Rainbow 25 (106,669) by jaker20 from US He's been bitter since 1997 but it only came to light when Rainbow was released. He thought Mariah was nothing without him so when the album came out and she seem to be doing just fine and giving no feks about him and then back in the dating game is probably when he started puling those strings in the background. (Friday 14 June 2024; 02:57) this is a reply to message 106,666

Rainbow 25 (106,666) by Bobby A from United States MC was a very confident 30 year old to stand up to Sony. Not too many 30 year old female artists would decide to cut ties with a major company like Sony after unparalled success. I wonder why Tommy gave MC such hard time during the whole Rainbow era. Why was he still mad in 1999 when he granted MC a divorce after hearing Butterfly in 1997? Was he bitter because MC was dating Luis Miguel and working with David Foster? Questions here in Texas waiting for midnight. (Friday 14 June 2024; 00:21)

Rainbow 25 (106,648) by jaker20 from US The vinyl design looks very tempting. I just might get it. (Thursday 13 June 2024; 08:34) this is a reply to message 106,638

Rainbow 25 (106,638) by Nick G from Germany The anniversary edition of Rainbow will be released on Friday. What do you expect? Tracks 21-23 are known, the normal version only had 14 tracks, I hope we get [There for me] or [After tonight] with Miguel. I'm looking forward to Rainbows End. (Wednesday 12 June 2024; 18:23)

Celine (106,647) by jaker20 from US What a terrible take. (Thursday 13 June 2024; 08:16) this is a reply to message 106,643

Celine (106,643) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States It won't. Why would it? It's "interesting" how so many lambs are suddenly feeling for Celine and seemingly co-opting her heartbreaking condition as a nebulous way to explain Mariah's vocal state. Is it possible that Mariah also has something going on that has impacted her voice? Yes. Is it also possible that improper maintenance is the cause? Yes. The former absolves Mariah of responsibility and places her in a position of being a victim-something I've noticed lambs love, Mariah as a perpetual victim. The latter holds her responsible, at least in part, and that isn't something the lambily likes to do. (Thursday 13 June 2024; 01:12)

Mariah queen of remixes (106,622) by jaker20 from US Mariah Carey's 10 Greatest Remixes according Slant Magazine: "Mariah Carey is the quintessential crossover artist, with a catalog of hits that bridges the gap between pop, R&B, hip-hop, and house music." 10. "My All/Stay Awhile (So So Def Remix)" 9. "Heartbreaker (Remix)" 8. "I Still Believe (The Kings Mix)" 7. "H.A.T.E.U. (So So Def Remix)" 6. "Someday (New 12" Jackswing)" 5. "Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme) (Morales Revival Triumphant Mix)" 4. "Butterfly (Def B Fly Mix)" 3. "Fantasy (Bad Boy Mix)" 2. "Dreamlover (Def Club Mix)" 1. "Anytime You Need a Friend (C+C Club Version)" Do you agree with this list?? I think it is missing I Still Believe / Pure Imagination (Damizza Remix), Breakdown (The Mo' Thugs Remix) and many others. (Monday 10 June 2024; 00:09)

Caution is probably better than TEOM (106,578) by jaker20 from US I think both albums are good for different reasons. TEOM is a huge creative leap for Mariah. The lyrics are slightly more mature and multi-dimensional. Up until that album, Mariah's album titles were one word, and they were all cohesive as one full era. But on TEOM, Mariah is definitely more free in experimentation and creativity, and she was trying new things, and it shows in the beats of the album, like One and Only, SIO and Say Something. Even Stay the Night does not feel like a traditional Mariah song, but somehow it fits here. Caution to me is a masterpiece. If Mariah had followed up immediately after its release, it would have set a standard for her. If it had been released after the recent boom of AIWFCIY the reception would have definitely been better. Just like Mariah had a 1990-2004 era, I feel like Caution marks a new era for her too, but unfortunately, she hasn't followed up with a similar path. Here, Mariah is embracing her new voice and being playful with it. The tracks themselves have more genre influences than she's done before, from jazzy pop to EDM, but still recognizably R&B. For me, there is no way to compare the two, they were very different. I don't think people overpraise it because of its commercial success. It's the other way around. It's a commercial success because it's undeniably a great album that many think it is. (Saturday 1 June 2024; 21:49) this is a reply to message 106,576

Caution is probably better than TEOM (106,576) by BFF from United States I never really warmed to TEOM as an album. As a fan, it feels like we are required to over-praise it simply because it was a commercial comeback for Mariah. It was nice to see songs like "We Belong Together" perform well, but I personally would have left off "One and Only" and "To the Floor". The ballads like "Mine Again", "I Wish You Knew", "Circles", and "Joy Ride", though decent, were lower quality than those recorded during the 1990-2001 period. "Caution" works better as an album than TEOM but needed maybe one more song on the original track listing (i.e. "Runway"). The final product proves that Mariah can produce a good album in a time crunch. (Saturday 1 June 2024; 16:35)

The Rarities 2 expectations (106,566) by jaker20 from US I would like that too. But if it's going to be low-budget with Mariah just be posing, I would rather not. AIWFCIY's video is one of her best. But before that, he last decent video was probably I Stay In Love. It had a concept, a story, and she looked great. Since then it's been terrible. Remember when they hyped the release of I'll Be Loving You Long Time, and it turns out to be just her posing in a bikini? If #Beautiful had a great video, it would have been a bigger hit because it's one of her best songs ever. Same with H.A.T.E.U. (Friday 31 May 2024; 02:02) this is a reply to message 106,565

The Rarities 2 expectations (106,565) by Zachariah from Croatia I would like to see a video for Migrate. And Migrate released as a single. Maybe even some kind of remix. Also, Right To Dream duet with Morgan Wallen. I love him and his writing style. I think they should do a song together. (Friday 31 May 2024; 00:37)

Apple 100 (106,504) by jaker20 from US Mariah is not working or had any deals with Apple as far as I know. Most of her recent deals including the Vegas residency and all merch related is with Amazon. So i'm not surprised they snubbed her. (Friday 24 May 2024; 00:00) this is a reply to message 106,502

Apple 100 (106,502) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Apple released their list of 100 best album of all time and while the list is very controversial what's surprising as a lamb is Mariah is nowhere to be seen. This is especially crazy since Mariah has been doing exclusive deals with them which has worked against her because due to these deals Spotify which is a bigger player kept her out of big playlists. So I wonder how Mariah feels about this. I also wonder did she go with Apple because that's the only streaming that wanted to work with her or she had a choice and made a bad decision. (Thursday 23 May 2024; 21:28)

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