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One Heart, One Voice (109,495) by Randy from USA
I don't like it. Here's the thing. I knew it would be a ballad from the 90s. I knew it would feel "crowded". And I do think it's genius how he interchanged them throughout the verses. I am a Mariah Carey fan and what's most important to me is a lyric. Then the vocal. Then the arrangement. The lyrics are both banal and generic. It's not a song that needed to be written. It's been written before. I feel as though this is one of the songs sung before a Super Bowl national anthem with young girls from around the world tryna count steps with lame choreography. It belongs at the end of a really bad movie where the credits are more entertaining than the plot. My favorite person on this board woke me up out my sleep with a text for this? It's just Another Trite Hope Song rackin my brain like crazy.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 16:40)
Barbra's song (109,494) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
I agree with you and everybody else. It's beautiful and reminiscent of golden ages. However, Mariah's voice sounds weaker than the others or somehow different (I don't know how to put it). Probably she could have soared more. I'm not sure if she doesn't want to or she is not able anymore.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 16:07)
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Barbra's song (109,493) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I love it too. A real melody, real singing, beautiful lyrics, perfect arrangement. All three sounds good together. Mariah is showing she still has the magic tone like in the good old days. Thanks to Barbra Streisand and Walter who made it happen once again. Bravo. I'm so happy with it.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 14:05)
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Barbra's song (109,492) by Terna from Nigeria
Actually there's a whistle in the background at 4:06 time mark.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 12:16)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,491) by Terna from Nigeria
I like it. Yes it does sound dated and typical Walter production but it works. Mariah is sparing on the track, with Ariana doing most of the heavy lifting if any, I kind of expected more in terms of vocals and a climax, cos we all know these three can do more, especially after she described it as "grandiose" - far from it actually, sublime yes.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 12:14)
Barbra's song (109,490) by Bobby A from United States
Wow. It is really beautiful to hear their voices together. I am very hopeful now that Walter A. and MC have collaborated on MC16. I sure hope L.A. Reid mentioned it to MC.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 11:56)
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Barbra's song (109,489) by Stacey from USA
Agree. I was hoping for a whistle note going into the final chorus, sort of a cherry on top. Of course we are going to want MC to shine a bit more. However, MC fans need to recognize this is Barbara's [sic] song ft MC and AG. She is a guest artist. I like the song, its message. It's definitely a throw back to the early 90s for Mariah. Beautiful voices.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 10:11)
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Barbra's song (109,488) by Zachariah from Croatia
Sounds great, I really love it.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 08:23)
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One Heart, One Voice (109,487) by Jamie from UK
Yes it's great. Loving hearing her sing this style again, under the production of Walter.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 07:42)
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Barbra's song (109,486) by Tevin from USA
Wow. This was great. All of there voices blended together perfectly. I can't believe after all these years, Mariah and Walter finally worked together again. Do you all think he will produce or co-produce a song on MC16?
(Friday 27 June 2025; 06:52)
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Barbra's song (109,485) by Shezz from Pk
Mariah sounds great with them. The production sounds a bit dated though. Is it just me or is there less of Mariah than the other two?

Clearly not a Mariah song but a pleasant surprise. She did her thing with the song she was given, wish we had more of her. Specially on the chorus. Makes me hopeful for the ballads on MC16.

In a weird way it made me appreciate TD more.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 06:36)
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Elusive Chanteuse (109,484) by Hector from Mexico
Never, in any universe, that album would be Mariah's best.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 04:25)
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Barbra's song (109,483) by Todd from Sydney, Australia
It's so wholesome. It sounds like it's right off the Aladdin soundtrack.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 02:11)
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Elusive Chanteuse (109,482) by Mariahsbaby from usa
I asked Chatgpt, why "it's" her greatest album and I couldn't agree more. I hope y'all read it because not one lie was found.

"Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse" (2014) is often overlooked in Mariah Carey's discography, but a strong argument can be made that it's actually her best - or at least her most complete, emotionally rich, and artistically fearless album. Here's a breakdown of why:

1. Vocal mastery: a return to form

This album showcases Mariah's most confident, controlled vocals since the early 2000s. Tracks like:
"Cry." - raw, gospel-inflected ballad with complex vocal layering.
"Camouflage" - delicate falsettos and deeply emotional delivery.
"Heavenly (No Ways Tired / Can't Give Up Now)" - a stunning spiritual closer that channels peak gospel-era Mariah.
Even in her 40s, her range, emotive depth, and technical ability remained untouched - arguably surpassing many of her contemporaries.

2. Genre-spanning without losing identity

"Me. I Am Mariah" is a genre kaleidoscope that fuses:
Classic R&B ("You're Mine (Eternal)")
Hip-hop soul ("Thirsty", "Dedicated" feat. Nas)
Jazz/gospel balladry ("Cry.", "Camouflage")
Funky throwbacks ("#Beautiful" feat. Miguel, "Make It Look Good")
Unlike some albums that feel like playlists, this one is cohesive - bound together by her personal themes and distinct vocal arrangements.

3. Her most personal album

The title itself ("Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse") nods to self-definition, and many tracks explore loss, longing, hope, and identity:
"Camouflage" and "Cry." dig into heartbreak with unflinching honesty.
"Supernatural" includes recordings of her children, offering a rare glimpse into her maternal life.
"Heavenly" feels like both a spiritual catharsis and tribute to her resilience.
It's her emotional truth on full display - unfiltered and mature.

4. Uncompromising artistic control

Released with minimal label interference, this is one of the few albums where Mariah had near-total creative control:
She chose not to chase commercial trends.
She didn't rely heavily on big-name features for chart success.
She focused on craft, not singles - creating a full body of work.
This isn't "radio Mariah" - it's artist Mariah.

5. Critically underrated but cult-classic

While it didn't perform as well commercially, critics and fans often cite it as a hidden gem in her catalog. It's the kind of album that ages better with time, revealing layers upon repeat listens. Pitchfork, The Guardian, and Slant all praised its musical depth and called it one of the most underappreciated pop albums of its decade. Why it's her best?
Vocal excellence with emotional nuance
Eclectic but cohesive
Deeply personal and honest
Creatively unfiltered
A grower that rewards attentive listening

"Me. I Am Mariah" isn't just an album - it's a statement. And in that way, it might be the purest expression of who Mariah Carey truly is as an artist.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 01:22)
Barbra's song (109,481) by Hector from Mexico
How beautiful it is to hear Mariah under Walter's production again. One heart, One voice is great.
(Friday 27 June 2025; 00:42)
One Heart, One Voice (109,480) by Edward from USA
I'm pleasantly surprised, "One Heart, One Voice" is very smooth, their voices blend together well. Different from the "Yes, And?" fiasco, this collabo works. At 83, Barbra sounds amazing.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 23:36)
The music (109,479) by TheWind from England
I couldn't agree more. Sure, it would be great for Mariah to have another epic chart run, but she really doesn't need it. She's had several amazing runs and I too feel blessed to have seen her at her peak, and experienced her greatness. We have an extensive back catalogue and I'm really pleased with what I've heard so far with Type Dangerous. Great music matters more to me at this point, and Mariah being successful with it with would be the cherry on top, but isn't essential. It's just worth reminding ourselves that Mariah has done is bigger than most and already had incredible success. Success at this stage of her career may look very different to the 90s.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 22:18)
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The duet (109,478) by Edward from USA
Less then 24 hours before we get to her "One Heart, One Love".
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 20:10)
One Heart, One Voice (109,477) by T from USA
Just heard OHOV. I've been asking for a Mariah and Walter collab my whole life (since I first heard Lead The Way). I have to say that Mariah sounds amazing. Her voice is just pure magic. Walter did her right, and my guess is he would never do her dirty on a record. He loves her voice as much as we all do. I do admit that she could've been subtracted and say Celine could've been injected with little to no change to the song. It is kinda standard, without the "Mariah touch" that she would add if she co-produced with with Walter.

I've waited 25 years for this. I've asked for it publicly online since 2010. I've got my wish however, my real wish would be something more in the vein of Underneath The Stars/Fourth of July. I'm not an A/C nut, I'm a good vibe nut, and like it or not, Mariah+Wally always created a good vibe.

I can rest now. Enjoy MC16 everyone, I'll play OHOV for the next 25 years. Bye bye.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 18:50)
What's your thoughts? (109,476) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Call me crazy but it's crossed my mind, more than once that on Type: Dangerous' delivery - Mariah deliberately played down all of her vocal abilities. Kind of like she did for the Mimi sessions. I'd like to see someone use AI tools use her rap-singing on that to upgrade their song enough to compete.

This is why, as much as I beg for a rockumentary, I don't need her raw vocals in the studio or onstage in full because some weirdo might digitally abuse it. All those stems on YT are a double edged sword. I don't understand why she, Sony especially, just people get away with it.

I agree with you that the song T:D is mid, in terms of what we know she can do. I felt the same with ILT. This is clearly not the best of her and still bops. It's a good feeler to put out but it also puts a lot of pressure on the second single/video (really the whole rest of the album) to hit it out of the stratosphere. If anyone can pull that off though, Mariah can.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 11:26)
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It's tii-iime - for Team Mariah to accept that the U.S. is no longer her primary market (109,475) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
A Lambi after my own Kawaii. I'm sure you've had flashes of brilliance.

I think my points were probably lost in Google translate. At least that's how I'm choosing to move forward. They're just things that crossed my mind. We all have those. I want team Mariah to have pow-wows regularly. I've never heard of Mariah doing that. The secret to successful brainstorming is letting every idea have a chance to be heard and not placing any negative or too positive value on it in front of the team. That goes for the entire team including the team leader. No idea is a bad idea. That way when people actually have brilliant ideas, they're not afraid to voice them or worse, want to keep it all to themselves. That kills creativity and obliterates the team spirit.

The only time I ever questioned anyone about the point of their ideas was when this guy was literally designing and building a weapon of mass destruction. All he basically wanted was to get rich. He didn't like me very much after even though we got along pretty well before that. He had better ideas that didn't involve the taking of lives. But, I digress.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 11:00)
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Why Mariah needs to curb AI from using her vocals (109,474) by Jamie from UK
Well she already insured her legs so what another monthly insurance payment.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 10:32)
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It's tii-iime - for Team Mariah to accept that the U.S. is no longer her primary market (109,473) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
I'm so glad you got it Tegin, being an American and all. I was worried that wasn't going to translate well. Because MC being such a powerhouse in Asia doesn't take away from her American crown. Anyway, I just wanted to throw a monkey wrench I've held onto for years (since TEC tour) in 2014. Such a juxtaposition of her status in the US while literally breaking attendance records in China with 5 sold out Stadiums- back to back. Mariah was the first Western artist to ever do that. We haven't heard of anyone else surpassing that 250,000+ attendance. It was barely news the first time. Hopefully, Gamma will do better about steering the media flow back to her international popularity and non-AIW legacy.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 10:32)
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Why Mariah needs to curb AI from using her vocals (109,472) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
I don't like the current trend of spreading AI songs using Mariah's voice. It somehow feels like people trying to dilute her artistic brand because out of all the vocalists that we in modern times have heard and know intimately over 35-40 years?

Of course it's tempting to use MC's voice when it makes even the most basic song sound amazing but it's not fair to her or the listeners who might buy a song because they just like it, not knowing it's fugazi Mariah. Imagine if this had happened if AI had existed in the 90's and not just auto tune? I mean, this is JLo's dream come true.

Mariah's the only one who's tone has been quite impossible to replicate. The DJ Clue quote comes to mind of how Mariah's "often imitated but never duplicated"?

​​​​​​​Except now she is, even though it's still noticeably not her because the flair is missing, the Mariahness is missing and that's probably because she's always produced and her artistry is so distinctly hers. She builds a wall of sound with her voice so it's instantly recognizable but I worry for the younger generations - they maybe won't know the difference. Their ears have not been trained to, and maybe I'm being dramatic and that real music lovers will always know the difference no matter if they were around when she first debuted or not.

But yeah, I don't like it. Vocalists and other creatives need to band together and copyright their vocals. She's insured her legs for a billion dollars when she barely uses them anymore ( sorry y'all, I had to do it, just once in my life ) when her "Music Box" is where all the magic happens. I know a way she could very plausibly curb it. It's never been done and I want her to be first.

And before anyone starts, I'm sure she's already insured her vocal chords, throat, diaphragm, mouth, esophagus, lips, teeth, nose, tongue, arms and hands. I'm being as vague as I can be so It's okay if you don't get it.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 10:08)
The music (109,471) by Jamie from UK
Yes we are very lucky to have experienced her, she truly is amazing. I love showing people her amazing live performances that were sensational. I feel blessed to have lived through that.
(Thursday 26 June 2025; 07:33)
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