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Article: Mariah Carey announces Las Vegas Holiday shows (111,219)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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What do you think about the Vegas shows? Good idea, yes or no and why? A friend of mine wanted to go to the New York show last year, Beacon theatre I guess. I went to the Christmas show in Berlin a few years ago (2018), and the show was really good and the Christmas spirit was there. It was also fun to see Bryan Tanaka and even the kids were on stage too. Time flies.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 22:02)
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I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,218)
by Edward from USA
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The album, if structured with the songs you listed, would've done so much better. MIAM definitely had some great tracks, but it also felt a little cluttered. A few songs seemed like they were just thrown in for the sake of filling space.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 21:45)
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I'll be listening before hearing other people's opinions (111,192)
by Bill from the UK
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Here's my version of MIAM that I playlisted, rather than the actual album:
1. Make It Look Good 2. Beautiful 3. You Don't Know What to Do 4. You're Mine (Eternal) 5. Cry. 6. Faded 7. Dedicated 8. Almost Home 9. Mesmerised* 10. Triumphant (Get 'Em) 11. The Art of Letting Go
*I know it's not strictly from the era, but I think it fits. I trimmed all the filler and weak tracks out, especially One More Try and Heavenly, as they are so Frankensteined they don't even sound like her.
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Mariah in Brazil (111,217)
by Edward from USA
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I get what you're saying, but Mariah doesn't exactly operate on a normal timeline. If anything, she's eternally twelve, remember?
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by MusicfanJ from Germany
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To be honest is mostly the best thing to do. At a certain age you should be able to speak the truth. Plus it often takes away negative critics, but if not a lot of people will be harsh and criticise even more. Mariah should be more honest at least. It's not always easy but better for the soul. I hope she gets more open about what's wrong.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 16:27)
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by Edward from USA
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What if her situation isn't about something out of her control, but rather something she's actually choosing to engage in? If that's the case, she'd never tell.
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by Jamie from UK
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Yeah I agree Bill. I think at this point she would actually get more sympathy from the general public if she was just honest with them. So what if she’s got something, no one cares and would actually warm to her for being open and honest.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 10:55)
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Bundle (111,215)
by Edward from USA
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If I were Mariah, I would bundle concert tickets with a digital copy of "Here For It All". This album feels way more anticipated than "Caution", and I really hope it does well. I'm definitely rooting for her.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 21:38)
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Brazil concert (111,214)
by Lambi from USA
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"Purple taking me higher, I'm lifted and I like it." Mariah definitely dabbles with THC, it enhances creativity as well. And that's a great point, they say getting divorced is like getting cancer. And I do believe that Nick cheated. She uttered, "I know you cheated on me," during one of her Chanteuse concerts.
It was also so predictable when he completely abandoned Mariah on Valentine's Day. Like, seriously? How do you book something else on that day and not dedicate it to your wife? And considering how many women he ended up with, him cheating being the cause of the divorce wouldn't be the least bit surprising.
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Brazil concert (111,208)
by BFF from United States
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There were claims being made in 2018/19 by Stella and the others who brought lawsuits that Mariah was recreationally using THC, prescription medications, and alcohol on a regular basis. Based on footage from the reality TV show, we can already confirm the alcohol and THC. Antidepressants and mood stabilizers aren't generally used recreationally, but anti-anxiety (Valium, Xanax) and pain medications (oxycontin, codeine) definitely are. This discussion makes me wonder if the divorce from Nick was a trigger or if perhaps the divorce happened as a result of whatever has been happening behind the scenes.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 16:52)
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Brazil concert (111,213)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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So true. When I was very young (90ies) I always thought there's nothing better than being a superstar. Young and naïve as I was. I admired so many celebraties. Now that I'm a grown-up (well most of the time) I don't want to change my "normal" life for a minute with the madness of a superstar. Most of them are totally broken by fame and money and false friends. I would take some money to travel more, but the fake and superficial world is nothing I would like to have. They are often so rich, but poor inside. Plus the paparazzi everywhere, horrible. What I like nowadays are stars that are still down to earth and know that the showbusiness is fake and can be even dangerous. Musicians and actors who are saying they are just doing their job and still have a normal life beside the showbusiness. There are a few luckily. These have never problems with any medicine, drugs or whatever. I can understand that a young Justin Bieber or a teen Britney Spears got broken. The same with MJ, all the stars that started at kid's age. But adults should be able to find a way to be creative without being damaged completely. It's too sad indeed.
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by Jamie from UK
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I wouldn't be surprised. It's sad how some of the stars go this way.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 17:11)
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by Edward from USA
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Mariah didn't break her shoulder, it was dislocated, which is a whole different thing. The doctors popped it back in, and with time it healed. She also cracked a rib. I bring this up because some fans love to rewrite history. Sure, maybe she doesn't have the same range of motion now, or maybe she's just being careful, who wouldn't be? But I don't think that old injury has anything to do with where she's at mentally today.
Back then, she actually sang beautifully with that jeweled arm brace, and once she healed, she was fine. Things really started going downhill during Contourella's reign of terror. With her fake "empower women" nonsense, she convinced Mariah it was okay to act out and even let herself be photographed in humiliating situations. She was also the mastermind behind Mariah blaming promoters and "outside forces" after the New Year's Eve mess in 2016. That whole period left scars. And while Mariah was clearly manipulated, she wasn't completely innocent in it either, which makes it even sadder. She hasn't been the same since. Contourella basically walled her off and inserted herself into every part of her life right when Mariah was at her most vulnerable.
What really gets me is when infantilize a 56-year-old to avoid holding her accountable for her choices and actions. Yes, she deserves lots of compassion and people around her who actually care, real friends who'll be honest, not just hype her up or leech off her. Even fans who used to deny it can see now that something's not right.
It reminds me of Whitney's last tour. You just know people in her camp were saying, "You sound amazing, go on tour," when she was clearly struggling. That kind of denial is dangerous, and it feels like Mariah's being pushed down that same path.
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More noticeable restriction (111,211)
by Jamie from UK
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I just saw this. Watch as she walks along, there is definitely something up with her mobility. You can see her legs struggle to move and she has to grab someone’s hand. Let me know your thoughts.
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by Jamie from UK
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I wouldn't be surprised. It's sad how some of the stars go this way.
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by BFF from United States
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There were claims being made in 2018/19 by Stella and the others who brought lawsuits that Mariah was recreationally using THC, prescription medications, and alcohol on a regular basis. Based on footage from the reality TV show, we can already confirm the alcohol and THC. Antidepressants and mood stabilizers aren't generally used recreationally, but anti-anxiety (Valium, Xanax) and pain medications (oxycontin, codeine) definitely are. This discussion makes me wonder if the divorce from Nick was a trigger or if perhaps the divorce happened as a result of whatever has been happening behind the scenes.
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by BFF from United States
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Yep, Live Nation and Ticketmaster already have "pre-sale in four days" online for a Christmastime Vegas residency shows starting on 11/28 and ending on 12/13. She hasn't officially announced yet, but they are already up.
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Brazil concert (111,204)
by Jamie from UK
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It seems everyone was right. She only defrosts on 11/1 and then she becomes 25 again and Christmas themed (well I thought she 25 was back then). You're right, she never was a dancer but she had stage presence. Come on Mariah, you're only 56 not 156. Clearly something is wrong like we all keep saying.
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Brazil concert (111,208)
by BFF from United States
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There were claims being made in 2018/19 by Stella and the others who brought lawsuits that Mariah was recreationally using THC, prescription medications, and alcohol on a regular basis. Based on footage from the reality TV show, we can already confirm the alcohol and THC. Antidepressants and mood stabilizers aren't generally used recreationally, but anti-anxiety (Valium, Xanax) and pain medications (oxycontin, codeine) definitely are. This discussion makes me wonder if the divorce from Nick was a trigger or if perhaps the divorce happened as a result of whatever has been happening behind the scenes.
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Brazil concert (111,205)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I'm inclined to believe that too, in Ebony reports about the time she thought [Prince], [Whitney] and Michael all dead at the time were coming for dinner. Whilst this might be a fabrication she was most definitely hospitalized in 2016 for 7 weeks. It also reports she refused to take her meds again when she returned home. She's most likely self medicating and this is the result. She's has been more coherent than this post her initial breakdown in 2001. Yeah at times she's been whacky too but it now seems there's no period of her coming across coherent and alert which makes me believe she isn't compliant with her medication like she was earlier on.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 16:21)
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Brazil concert (111,207)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I hope it's not because of opiads. My grandma needs to take them but she's ill and 92. Is there no chance that a broken shoulder can heal? Do you think the shoulder still hurts? I think it was too much with the loss of her mother and the Bryan break-up. When Edith Piaf lost her love, the famous boxer Marcel, she was never the same. I know off-topic but I had to think of her because I watched the movie "La vie en rose" which is fantastic as a music bio pic. But back to Mariah, I hope she's okay and feels better soon.
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by T from USA
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Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time.
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by MusicfanJ from Germany
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To be honest is mostly the best thing to do. At a certain age you should be able to speak the truth. Plus it often takes away negative critics, but if not a lot of people will be harsh and criticise even more. Mariah should be more honest at least. It's not always easy but better for the soul. I hope she gets more open about what's wrong.
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by Jamie from UK
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Yeah I agree Bill. I think at this point she would actually get more sympathy from the general public if she was just honest with them. So what if she’s got something, no one cares and would actually warm to her for being open and honest.
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Brazil concert (111,205)
by Jamie from UK
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Yes I'm inclined to believe that too, in Ebony reports about the time she thought [Prince], [Whitney] and Michael all dead at the time were coming for dinner. Whilst this might be a fabrication she was most definitely hospitalized in 2016 for 7 weeks. It also reports she refused to take her meds again when she returned home. She's most likely self medicating and this is the result. She's has been more coherent than this post her initial breakdown in 2001. Yeah at times she's been whacky too but it now seems there's no period of her coming across coherent and alert which makes me believe she isn't compliant with her medication like she was earlier on.
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by BFF from United States
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That is definitely a good point. Maybe she became dependent on pain medication after the injury in 2013. It could be a situation much like Lisa Marie Presley, Prince, etc. where a legitimate injury or pain management situation transitioned into dependence. And that would be on top of the psychiatric medication she has purportedly been taking. It sounds like the Brazil concert went really poorly, but the pattern has been ongoing for 10+ years with things really deteriorating when she started performing again after COVID (around 2022/23).
If the issue is dependence on prescription medication, I don't think we will hear about it unless she has an incident like those involving Prince, Whitney Houston, and Michael Jackson. We were probably pretty close to hearing something when she was hospitalized in 2016, but she PRed that by "revealing" the bipolar diagnosis and mental health issues diagnosed in 2001 which we already knew about. As much as Stella cheapened her image in that period, I do believe some of the claims that Stella and others made in those now-dismissed lawsuits from that period.
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by Jamie from UK
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It seems everyone was right. She only defrosts on 11/1 and then she becomes 25 again and Christmas themed (well I thought she 25 was back then). You're right, she never was a dancer but she had stage presence. Come on Mariah, you're only 56 not 156. Clearly something is wrong like we all keep saying.
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by T from USA
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Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time.
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by BFF from United States
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That is definitely a good point. Maybe she became dependent on pain medication after the injury in 2013. It could be a situation much like Lisa Marie Presley, Prince, etc. where a legitimate injury or pain management situation transitioned into dependence. And that would be on top of the psychiatric medication she has purportedly been taking. It sounds like the Brazil concert went really poorly, but the pattern has been ongoing for 10+ years with things really deteriorating when she started performing again after COVID (around 2022/23).
If the issue is dependence on prescription medication, I don't think we will hear about it unless she has an incident like those involving Prince, Whitney Houston, and Michael Jackson. We were probably pretty close to hearing something when she was hospitalized in 2016, but she PRed that by "revealing" the bipolar diagnosis and mental health issues diagnosed in 2001 which we already knew about. As much as Stella cheapened her image in that period, I do believe some of the claims that Stella and others made in those now-dismissed lawsuits from that period.
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Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time.
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It was indeed reaaaally bad. One year ago she performed for one of the biggest crowds ever in her career. The Brazilian solo show in 2024 was awesome but in retrospect I guess the audience (and us lambs) were missing her a lot but the show was pretty much her standing and miming the "new" pre recorded vocals. This time on The Town Festival I guess we were more comfortable to really analyse her show and be more critical because she was here a year ago if you know what I mean and then everyone noticed how distant, how stiff, how zoned out she is. The IWTKWLI song in the end is not a surprise anymore and if you notice it's literally the same track played on Rock in Rio when there is a cue for her to put the mic to the audience. Just when I tough she was going to slow down here comes news of more Christmas shows. Next Wednesday there will be a special performance in Brasil on the Amazon River and I don't think she will do better. It would be such a good opportunity for her to shine and sell her artistry.
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by Zachariah from Croatia
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Ugh, sorry to hear that. Was it really that bad? So strange that she has these fluctuations while performing. I know her motto in this era is to do whatever she wants and "do" her, but I think this in not the right way.
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by T from USA
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Mariah has been looking at the monitor ever since 2013 when she went viral for forgetting the lyrics on tour to WBT. Something happened after her fall and broken shoulder. I always suspected they gave her some serious pain killer stuff to keep her going as she is a business that just cannot turn off the lights especially in the middle of promoting an album. Maybe she got hooked on something like opioids? Maybe she still has the addiction and that is why she is being moved from spot to spot by Michael Richardson. He was also moving her around in the same fashion in 2000/2001 when she was carrying around that pink Hello Kitty boom box. We all remember how the end of 2001 went. I wonder how it will end this time.
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I can see why people would be disappointed. She barely moved. I don't get it, she was doing much better in the other show but is back to being stiff. I know a lot of people are like Mariah is not a dancer and for sure no one expects her to dance, but she always had a great stage presence back in the day. She'd move around, move her hands that would emote the song and just be more "present". Nowadays she seems like she is in a glass cage not moving, not interacting and just frozen constantly looking at the monitor. It's almost like she can't see she's in an audience, and only is looking at her band and backup dancers. She's booking these huge shows which can really help her sales but she just seems so disinterested and bored. I wish someone would speak to her or show her the clips so she can see what she's doing.
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by Randy from USA
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No surprise in Brazil. I'm always surprised that people are so upset though. It's become a joke on Instagram and TikTok. "Go ahead Mimi give us nothing and everything at the same time." I think Mariah's priorities are ranked in this order. #4 Her vocals. #3 "The music" or being a songwriter in the studio. #2 The lighting. #1 Looking great: "the hair, the makeup, the ensemble". Whenever she walks out on stage, myself and everyone in the general public says the same thing, " wow she looks great." But we never leave the performance with "she sounded great". And as for HFIA, Stacey and Bill, I agree with the "sh*t" being out of place. And she mentions God in the next line. Listen I say bad words but they fit the moment. GTFO is my anthem. But on HFIA, "sh*t" didn't belong with the mood of the verse. I really like the song though, outside of that. And if you've followed my career as a columnist on this board, y'all know I don't like anything. P.S I kinda thought we were getting "Mi" this week as she alluded to it at the end of her "finish the lyric video". Oh well.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 13:32)
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Wait, I keep forgetting Mariah went through an actual heavy break up. 7 years. The lyrics do fit Tanaka as well. Maybe he was the initial subject and then she kept editing and added elements of her mom's death? I'm so invested now. I like the song so far.
It being about Tanaka would make perfect sense though. Let's hear the rest.
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I really liked the clip of HFIA. I heard say it in one of the interviews that she wrote it a couple of years ago and knew she wanted to name the album after it ever since.
At first after the Selfridges snippet I thought maybe she wrote it for her kids but it sounds like it must have been for Bryan.
.Paak is too recent for a song that's two years old. Speaking of, I know MC is busy with promo and touring but he's nowhere to be seen. Maybe he was just helping her get the album together and they aren't romantically involved?
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by Jamie from UK
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Yeah I agree Bill. I think at this point she would actually get more sympathy from the general public if she was just honest with them. So what if she’s got something, no one cares and would actually warm to her for being open and honest.
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Shame to read this, but this has been Mariah's standard for a long time (except the concert in the UK, not sure what happened there or why she suddenly was "Mariah" again).
The bad press and reviews will all come to a stop if she simply lets everybody know what the problem is. Medication? Fine. A bad back? Fine. An auto-immune disease? Fine. Everyone loves her and no one would think of her any differently, in fact, people like me would shut up and let her get on with it, as right now she just comes across as doing the bare minimum and in it for the money (which may also be the case).
But, I know Mariah, and I know she has been dealing with something that started showing as early as the E=MC2 days, but has got progressively worse and worse, to the point where it is up there in neon flashing lights and still we sit here blaming it on high heels and nerves and nodules.
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Eh. A bit disappointed this much hyped track contains profanity. It's so low rent and, as you say, no need for it. That's put a bit of a dampener on it for me sadly.
I hope she isn't telling our good Lord above to "GTFO" on Jesus I Do.
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Same. I don't understand the need to swear. Never have. I listened to the clip once, lol. I am doing my best not to listen to any clips until the album drops. I have never been successful.
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Shame to read this, but this has been Mariah's standard for a long time (except the concert in the UK, not sure what happened there or why she suddenly was "Mariah" again).
The bad press and reviews will all come to a stop if she simply lets everybody know what the problem is. Medication? Fine. A bad back? Fine. An auto-immune disease? Fine. Everyone loves her and no one would think of her any differently, in fact, people like me would shut up and let her get on with it, as right now she just comes across as doing the bare minimum and in it for the money (which may also be the case).
But, I know Mariah, and I know she has been dealing with something that started showing as early as the E=MC2 days, but has got progressively worse and worse, to the point where it is up there in neon flashing lights and still we sit here blaming it on high heels and nerves and nodules.
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Yes, the look was great, but the concert was terrible. Nobody enjoyed it, and people thought it was awful how she didn't interact with the audience, kept staring at the monitors, and left the stage multiple times for long outfit changes. She barely sang, didn't even try to move around the stage, and now she's been getting a lot of backlash from both the media and fans, many of whom left halfway through the show. I just can't understand this lack of energy in her concerts lately. It feels like she doesn't even want to be there. I don't remember any Mariah concert ever being this bad before. Everyone in Brazil was disappointed.
(Monday 15 September 2025; 00:10)
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