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Uhmmm Mimi's deep cuts are MIA (106,167) by Will from England The theme of the show is how she got to TEOM, from her debut and through he career to show why TEOM was and is an important album. From what I've seen there are spoken parts that are played between songs, almost like the audio book. Speaking of the show, I've been highly impressed by the presentation of the set, and how it's all put together. Her voice is supremely better than when we all saw that clip of VOL from a while back. The discussion of what is pre-recorded or lipped is tired and old - she is singing live what she can throughout the show and it sounds great. We just have to adjust to the new singing style that she is adopting and it's working from what I can see and hear. As for deep cuts, plenty of deep cuts from what I've seen. Set list is roughly and order may not be correct: VOL Emotions Make it happen Can't let go I'll be there Dreamlover/remix Hero Without you Fantasy Butterfly Babydoll The toof My all Breakdown Close my eyes Looking in (there have been some reports of a Glitter/Charmbracelet medley but I suspect that's when she is off stage) I wish you knew It's like that Shake it off Your girl Circles Say something We belong together Fly like a bird That's quite a good set list, I can only dream she decides to take this internationally. (Sunday 14 April 2024; 19:11) this is a reply to message 106,156

Uhmmm Mimi's deep cuts are MIA (106,156) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Did we get the full set list? I'm surprised there's no DFAU. She could have done a medley of One and Only and So Lonely. I saw she started with VOL. That's odd since the show is supposed to be a celebration of TEOM and she had ILT, SIO as perfect openers. Was there a reason behind her doing older songs for a majority of the show and then TEOM later? If so why no songs from albums after TEOM? All things aside she looks stunning, the gold dress she wears at the beginning of the TEOM set was beautiful and very TEOM coded. What I loved about some of the videos are that she was walking around by herself and even did a mini almost sprint. All these visually creates a more engaging show rather than using dancers as crutches. So she'll only get better. I hope with each show she also stops relying too much on the teleprompter but as always her shows getting better with more dates. The stage looks nice and moody very TEOM coded. All things asides I think in person the show was a lot better than whatever we can see from low res videos. (Saturday 13 April 2024; 22:57)

The Adventures of Mimi (106,019) by Will from England I doubt it would ever be on a CD, but probably streaming services at some point in time. (Friday 22 March 2024; 19:46) this is a reply to message 106,015

The Adventures of Mimi (106,015) by Robert-Anthony from United States Do you think we will ever get the The Adventures of Mimi DVD release on CD and vinyl? That is one DVD release that I need in my collection along with the live performance WBT/FLAB on 2005 Grammys. (Wednesday 20 March 2024; 10:46)

AI songs (105,372) by Will from England This was posted a few days ago, it's Mariah's AI voice singing JT's new song Selfish. I wish she had written and released this instead. It sounds like something that could have been on Caution. (Sunday 11 February 2024; 23:26)

Tacking on two Memoirs songs to MIAMTEC (105,201) by Will from England Didn't she say that the original version of the album was more ballad heavy, and she went back to the studio to record more songs like Money (I think Camouflage was supposed to close out the album originally, which is why she starts Money with "I can't leave it like that"), OMT and Heavenly? I think she had more than enough tracks to choose from rather than the two leaked songs from MOAIA. (Thursday 1 February 2024; 20:08) this is a reply to message 105,192

Tacking on two Memoirs songs to MIAMTEC (105,192) by Robert-Anthony from United States I think MC needed two songs for the deluxe edition that was going to be sold at Target. She didn't have any extra songs from the recording sessions. MC probably thought what two songs with high profile features from the Angels Advocate remix album would make fans buy the deluxe edition. So, we got R. Kelly and Mary J. Blige. My question is why did she include America the Beautiful? Maybe she was trying to be festive for Memorial Day with it being included on the album. Let's hope MC16 has some brillant decisions. (Wednesday 31 January 2024; 13:05)

We need an uptempo song (104,680) by Will from England To that I say look up Adele's response to the record company suggesting she should do a song for the TikTok audience. Mariah's older songs go viral on that app without pandering to them, so I don't think this is something she should focus on. She's happier maing music that she likes/wants to make, and if it goes viral, so be it. (Wednesday 27 December 2023; 11:55) this is a reply to message 104,672

We need an uptempo song (104,672) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter And she should engage TikTok influencers for a dance challenge along with the release maybe even with a sped up version. I'm 50/50 on sped up versions but that's in trend and gets attention. (Tuesday 26 December 2023; 22:51)

Status of things (104,072) by Will from England Mara, we must've channeled one and another to have the same comments on her wearing her emotions/heart on her sleeve, at the exact same time. (Wednesday 15 November 2023; 23:14) this is a reply to message 104,069

Status of things (104,069) by Mara from United States I have to agree with this Bradley. There is something missing this year or season I should say. She looks like she is going through the motions and is perhaps on "auto pilot". I hope she is ok. Her sparkle is a miss this year and I can feel it almost like the first year at the Beacon where she geared up singing Hero and she was separated from Nick. I wonder if her and Bryan took a break to see how things went and decided to officially end the relationship recently. I just hope she is ok. This is her time and she always has that sparkle in her eye and seeing her almost blank makes me sad. Maybe she is just tired of this and not in the mood this season. It happens to all of us. But as a day one 1990 fan, M always wears her heart on her sleeve and we can read her better than anyone else. We love you Mariah - go out there and have some amazing shows making amazing memories with your beautiful children by your side. (Wednesday 15 November 2023; 21:59)

Pendulum (104,070) by Will from England It's interesting to see the wild pendulum swing in personality presentation Mariah can give within a year. Last year she was a bit all over, not sure what to say or do, and her mannerisms and insecurities were magnified ten fold, whether it was performing or even in interviews. But at least she was more alive and animated. Lately, it's been low energy with minimal expressions mixed with slowed down speaking, a half smile and laugh and shorter answers (not a bad thing but still). It's like we've gone back to late 2008/2016. I do think she and Tanaka have split privately, and she's going through it, and maybe that's what's brought on the recent writing spree and she's dealing with that. She wears her emotions on her sleeve, and keeps them close to the surface. Whether it's when she's happy, nervous, annoyed or sad, she can't hid it very well, though try she might. And I do think we're now seeing her dealing with a private breakup with someone she has known in 2006, threw away an engagement to a billionare for (granted, I don't think she really loved Packer so wasn't a huge loss there), and has been a larger part of her life up until this point, in the public eye again the best way that she can. (Wednesday 15 November 2023; 22:37)

Status of things (104,068) by Will from England It's always seemed like a shame to me that Mariah's side project always have a short shelf life. Once they've been around for a few months, either the contract for those items discontinues and she moves on to the next or she loses interest altogether once it stops becoming lucrative. Her perfume lines (not including the lollipop bling lines, but the first one for sure) could have been a long term product for her, like Britney's or Beyonce's. (Wednesday 15 November 2023; 21:59) this is a reply to message 104,064

Status of things (104,064) by Brad from USA It's funny, yesterday I listened to a few MC songs that I hadn't listened to in a while, like "Lead the Way". After doing so, I thought "why can't we just be content with exploring such amazing vocal performances and not bicker or focus on what we are not receiving as fans". And today, I viewed the Jennifer Hudson "interview" and wondered "what is going on with her that she has to have such interviews and questions scripted and then repeated for every subsequent interview she does during her publicity efforts"? It makes me question her well being and mental health status. I hope she is well. There are clearly changes we are not aware of, as evidenced by Tanaka's seeming absence, her reduced social media presence, the lack of any new recordings in years and the seeming abandonment of MC brand products like Black Irish and Mariah Cookies. Perhaps it's not our "right" to know but we do wish to be supportive of her as an individual, an artist and entrepreneur. (Wednesday 15 November 2023; 17:24)

Mariah, please be ready (104,004) by Will from England Your comparisons are quite correct: nobody would expect any professional at the top of their game to return to the field in which they dominated after sustaining an injury. I also agree that Mariah should not talk about her voice in public, and she knows it. Maybe in a few years time, if she dains to produce a second book, she may talk about it then, but until that time, she will remain tight lipped. And speaking of which, she is far too reliant on her auto-cue to move her along in the script of the show, to know the next line of the song, and still she can get caught out. I agree also that her desire to perform has greatly deminished, and I think at this point, that is to be expected. But then again, I think she's in a very odd positioning that few of her peers can relate to. She isn't Beyonce, Gaga or Madonna - who rely on the theatrics of the stage. She isn't having the hits that she once had, so she can't rely on that aspect of the business. There isn't much money in the music industry unless you have an AIWFC type of song, or are Taylor Swift, so she can't rely solely on music for her main income (which is why she has all the deals at Christmas), and she's beyond the point of where she could easily pivot and do what Rihanna, Kelly and J. Hud have done, which is to fully diversify and fully go into other opportunites outside of music for their coin. Who else in her peer group can relate to this state of career limbo? I think her continuing to put on shows, does stem from the deep seeded fear she once spoke of, of having the rug pulled from underneath you. She and her family live and extravegant lifestyle and all her income comes solely from music, which I've already said doesn't pay much anymore. So I think that she feels she has to continue on putting on shows to still bring in the money, and why not when it's such an easy goldmine to delve into until people are tired of it. It doesn't matter how much she is worth, that feeling doesn't fully ever subside or go away. (Thursday 9 November 2023; 23:46) this is a reply to message 103,995

Mariah, please be ready (103,995) by Andrew from the UK It's hard to find a comparator for a singer but when a tennis player has an injury they do not sign up for a circuit of Grand Slams and tournaments. When a rugby player has a pulled hamstring, they are taken out of the season. If you can't sing, don't get on stage - and charge money for it? This sounds mean, maybe it is. And I think if people know what's going to happen and they buy tickets to it, then I'm all for that. But very majorly supportive of people like Adam who chooses not to buy high-price tickets to something very average. The Caution tour was Mariah's first tour in the UK I didn't attend since the Rainbow tour. Because I, likewise, didn't see the point. I'd rather spend the money on a vacation - which is what it costs now. However, I think you're missing the crux. It isn't that Mariah isn't signing so much, it's that she doesn't move, she doesn't banter much, she doesn't do much of anything. I remember attending the Christmas show at the O2 not far from me: I could see she was reading an autocue of what to say. "I have my own reindeeeeer." That isn't just a loss of confidence, that's a loss of dignity, wouldn't you say? When someone is asking Mariah to be prepared, it's a grave, grave state of affairs that this needs to be requested. But, I do hope she puts on a good show and doesn't fill YouTube with yet more toss. (Thursday 9 November 2023; 00:36)

Mariah, please be ready (103,994) by Will from England It's very true that from 1990 to 2008, she was very confident on stage and quite rightly so. Her voice was in control, she could do anything she wanted with it and it would be there. 2009 onwards, she has suffered from persistent public vocal mishaps: 1 - Michael Jackson's funeral: Her first mishap where her voice cracked and it was talked about in public. However, she had many strong performances after this. 2 - Rockerfeller mic leak: Her first major public scandal on her voice, which saw her pull back from performing on the show after 3-4 fantastic annual performances. I believe this is where the majority of her fears of performing started in earnest, and for her to never have a something like this happen again, relying more on playback for her harder songs later on. 3 - Good Morning America: Now it's difficult to pinpoint what the problem was here, whether it was the sound mix, playback failure or something else, but again, her performance of Beautiful got mixed responses. 4 - MIAM tour: The early stages of the tour were upstaged by her bronchitis and it took her a while to recover. But once she did, she had some great vocal moments again. 5 - NYE: We don't need to rehash this one. Given that Mariah is someone that has always prided on her image, how she is perceived, and the one thing she prided on was her voice, to be able to have it perform flawlessly that would bring people to their feet in admiration and applause. Now, it is unreliable, inconsistent and does not do what she wishes for it to do. It has reduced itself down, giving her more heavier bass notes rather than the high notes she used to sail into with an ease. She doesn't know what it's going to do next, whether she can rely on it in public. So, taking all that into account, and the vitriol she has had from the public (need I remind you that even during the press conference for #1 to Infinity, she was asked whether there were gonna be many pre-recorded vocals), with the knowledge that she knows she is going to be filmed and have it analysed note for note, why are you surprised she has become less of a confident performer? (Wednesday 8 November 2023; 22:29) this is a reply to message 103,993

Mariah, please be ready (103,993) by Andrew from the UK I don't understand from where this idea of Mariah being an "unconfident" performer still permeates? She was unrefined during the debut performances into Emotions perhaps, but 1993 - 2008 oozed confidence - granted: sometimes ebbing, sometimes flowing, but confident she was. It is only since Memoirs did Mariah have a personality transplant. I'm swaying to the idea that she was beamed up to the mothership and replaced with a somewhat imperfect and faulty replica. (Wednesday 8 November 2023; 18:23)

Jimmy Kimmel (103,917) by Will from England I would be surprised if she did, it's more likely she's on there to promote the Christmas shows and that would be it. (Monday 30 October 2023; 00:21) this is a reply to message 103,907

Jimmy Kimmel (103,907) by Jamie from UK Just seen Mariah is due to appear on Jimmy Kimmel show on 2nd November. I wonder if she will announce something then? (Sunday 29 October 2023; 10:05)

Merry Christmas to you too (103,895) by Will from England Mariah does like to have her albums with a tongue in cheek title every now and then, I suppose if we were to count the re-released deluxe Merry Christmas album as her third, Merry Christmas II You II would be perfect as it would be her fourth one. (Friday 27 October 2023; 16:50) this is a reply to message 103,894

Merry Christmas to you too (103,894) by Andrew from the UK I would think a 3rd release is better timed for MCH30 next year. Hopefully a release won't be called "Merry Christmas One And All". I think Merry Christmas III is a solid title. Merry Christmas III or Merry Christmas II You II. (Friday 27 October 2023; 15:55)

Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour (103,863) by Will from England That tour was my first time seeing Mariah live. It was surreal to finally be seeing/hearing her after so many years (I've since seen her twice more), but it was strange that they opted to not have large screens so that the audience at the back could see her, especially in such a large venue like the O2, even at the Royal Albert Hall they had screens. Vocally it was stunning and everything was on point. (Wednesday 25 October 2023; 11:22) this is a reply to message 103,856

Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour (103,856) by Andrew from the UK Often imitated, never duplicated. It was as professional as a tour from her I had seen. And it visually quite great. Plus, the variety of songs from the discography of course better because it was late in the day. I remember Martyn asking my opinion at the time and I could only say that I didn't really care about the lipsync or the awkward transition because it was just like a big Mariah Carey nightclub. And Martyn liked it. Although he was a lad of very, er, questionable taste. What did you like about it? (Monday 23 October 2023; 20:53)

Mariah lately (103,862) by Will from England Can we just take a moment to appreciate how great Mariah is looking right now? She looks so good in that black dress with the Emancipation straight blonde hair, and the latest video and picture on her Instagram. So so good. (Wednesday 25 October 2023; 11:19)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,715) by Will from England It's not just the lyrics, but the whole vibe of the songs on MOAIA simply don't match the mood she was inspired by for E. Does the album flow with those MOAIA songs added on if you looked at them lyrically? Still probably not. I guess you could see it by lining them up to play next in Itunes or Spotify etc. MOAIA was just a whole different vibe. Think about Cool On You, you can clearly tell that it was a 2008 cut without hesitation vs Obsessed. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 17:04) this is a reply to message 103,711

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,711) by T from USA I guess you do make a point. But I actually think Obsessed, It's a Wrap do match the other juvenile lyrics of other songs on the album, maybe they could be joined by Up Out My Face and Standing O and that would've rounded out Einstein nicely. (UOMF actually references Harvard, it basically writes itself.) The autotune on those songs also would lend some continuity. I just think having TMB, Obsessed and IAW all on one album would make E=MC2 a streaming monster like Daydream. (Wednesday 11 October 2023; 01:53)

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,708) by Will from England I don't know, Obsessed was a last minute addition to MOAIA after Bagpipes was released and she wrote it in response specifically. I don't think that sonically, it makes sense for those 4 songs to be on E=MC2 because her voice had changed again by that point (it sounded fuller vs the songs on E), and they just don't flow well with the party atmosphere she had with that album. DFAU etc. worked well for TEOM because there was still a sonic theme going that she was after and they fit well with the rest of the album. Those four just don't go on E. (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 22:43) this is a reply to message 103,699

Einstein re-release in 2009 instead (103,699) by T from USA We all know the tragic story of E=MC2's trajectory after the first single, the disappearance of Mimi and then the re-emergence in depression. In hindsight, with the lack of commercial success she's had since (except Christmas), one really can look back at the mistakes made like not releasing Migrate as the second single and think it was her last big change at commercial dominance. Would've a re-release like she did with TEOM made a big difference? Would it have sparked new life for the album? Imagine Obsessed was the fourth single from a repackaged album. I think I would've taken that over MOAIA. 1. Migrate (ft. T-Pain) 2. Touch My Body 3. Cruise Control (ft. Damian Marley) 4. I Stay In Love 5. Side Effects (ft. Young Jeezy) 6. I'm That Chick 7. Love Story 8. I'll Be Lovin You Long Time 9. Last Kiss 10. Thanks For Nothing 11. OOC 12. For The Record 13. Bye Bye 14. I Wish You Well 15. Obsessed 16. Betcha Gon' Know 17. H.A.T.E.U. 18. It's a Wrap (Tuesday 10 October 2023; 01:34)

She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,683) by Will from England I noticed that her energy was low, almost akin to late 2008 when she was doing the ISIL promo. I think part of the reasoning is because the last time she performend in public, I think we can all agree she was a bit all over in terms of her presentation whilst on stage, and her voice was being carefully scrutinised so now she's playing it more reserved. She's recorded new live vocals for her harder songs (I love the new Fantasy one), and she's taking them out for their first tryout in public. It is odd though how she doesn't seem to remember which version she is going to perform or where the higher belts are for her to sell the performance. Having said all that, she does look great now she isn't tied into a bone corset and the moments she did sing live were better than what her Christmas shows last year were, though there is still a noticeably reduced range. It's odd as well, she was more happy to change up the melody and sing lower notes earlier on in her career (Butterfly SNL comes to mind, but I'm sure there are others), but now she seems determined to still prove she has the higher register available to her, though we know that this is more unstable and less likely to be hit live. (Sunday 8 October 2023; 11:57) this is a reply to message 103,682

She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,682) by Brandon from USA Andrew, I am in total agreement with everything that you said. I think she hasn't progressed as a live performer because she's always in her head trying to remember when the recorded vocals are gonna kick in. She's constantly looking down to the teleprompter as though she is singing karaoke to her own songs because she needs reminders for the backing track. It's so annoying. She needs to lower the keys even more already so that she can actually sing her own songs start to finish. Whitney, Patti, Mary J, Barbra Streisand, Chaka, Gladys, etc would never even on their worst days vocally. Also, why does she keep giving these low energy performances like she did in Quatar? What is going on? (Sunday 8 October 2023; 05:48)

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,638) by Will from England I wouldn't take it so seriously. She's in on the joke, and fully aware of the videos that have been going around for the past couple of months, like she was with the McDonald's ad of her standing in the ocean. We've already had this discussion of her slowing down and taking more time for herself and her family, and if she is lucky enough to only have to work 2 months of a year, make that money during a period of time that she loves to celebrate, then let her. Lord knows I would love to. Whether you like it or not, Mariah is now synonymous with Christmas, and not evey artist can do that (associate themselves specifically with a popular holiday period), I think the only other one could be MJ with Thriller but that's the one song. Brands would kill to own a verb (googling, tweeting etc.); Mariah Carey owns an entire holiday period. (Monday 2 October 2023; 22:23) this is a reply to message 103,636

Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636) by Randy from USA She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do? (Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)

Disc two (103,338) by Will from England She could well be waiting for the 30th anniversary to go all out, if there is anything to release. I think her friend on Twitter Liron mentioned that there weren't many/any unreleased or unfinished songs from Butterfly which is why there weren't any songs on Rarities from that era (though I personally doubt it). (Thursday 7 September 2023; 13:20) this is a reply to message 103,332

Disc two (103,332) by Stacey from USA I'd argue MB 30th is better than what she did for Butterfly 25th release. I thought Butterfly was her most personal release and what we got wasn't a whole lot. Yes, we got digital EPs of all her remixes from that era. But most of us had already heard of them. I'm talking new, unreleased stuff. Thoughts? (Thursday 7 September 2023; 03:03)

Music Box 30th anniversary revealed (103,325) by Will from England I would've thought it's because she's released all that she wants to release from those eras for Rarities and the MC30, and maybe saving some for Rarities Part 2 that she talked about? One can hope. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:22) this is a reply to message 103,307

Music Box 30th anniversary revealed (103,307) by Robert-Anthony from United States I am wondering the same too. She didn't do a 30th anniversary for Mariah Carey or Emotions. Music Box must be really dear to MC. Daydream's 30th anniversary will probably be huge with the release of her version of Somebody's Ugly Daughter. (Tuesday 5 September 2023; 00:00)

Music Box 30th Anniversary (103,324) by Will from England I think it will be the same as the rarities and Tokyo Dome, it will be both on physical CD and streaming. (Thursday 7 September 2023; 00:20) this is a reply to message 103,318

Music Box 30th Anniversary (103,318) by Andrew from the UK I must admit I don't really understand what is being released and how? Is Proctor's Theatre being released as an audio? If so, is it going on Spotify or do you have to actually purchase a hard copy? It's all pretty confusing. (Wednesday 6 September 2023; 23:22)

New era? (103,249) by Will from England I think it's to be expected that she slows down now. She's done literally everything there is to accomplish in music that she wants to do and has broken and made so many musical history records; she's done all the dog and pony shows for each album; she's performed in nearly every country; she's had to her rise, fall and return to grace. Her arc is complete, and there is nothing more for her to do expect enjoy the life she has built for her family. Her children are nearly teenagers, and for now, she is enjoying being a mom to them, occasionally recording and writing stuff, but without the pressures for commitment to a record label to deliver a full album and do a promotional tour. Look at the other legacy acts around, there isn't anyone in her category making music or having hits (with the odd exception here or there like Kylie), it's all the younger upcoming artists and I'd like to think that she has made peace with that. Her final large promotional push she had to do, that I feel she wanted to achieve and was easily attainable at that point, was to get AIWFCIY to number 1, and that's done, and that song will now continue to increase in weeks at number 1 every year, before finally becoming the longest running number 1 song ever on the chart ad infinitum. However, that's not to say she will never release another musical project, I don't think that she can ever let that happen considering her views on Caution, but something to really sum up over 30 years in a cut-throat business and something she can be proud of being the final major project, and finish it with her sweet 16th album. (Saturday 26 August 2023; 23:50) this is a reply to message 103,247

New era? (103,247) by Robert-Anthony from United States Is this the new era that no one expected? An era where we get new items dropped in MC's store quarterly and occasional video posts on Twitter. I believe this is the new norm. Therefore, I am disappointed with the release of the new Honey 2 LP. The gold colored vinyl is not worth buying. I don't purchase color vinyl because it does not produce brillant stereophonic sound like black vinyl. This is where we are from the start in 1990 to 2023. It is really disappointing that MC hasn't addressed anything. Did Elton John or Janet Jackson experience a career slow down like this without some type of announcement? I would like to know. (Saturday 26 August 2023; 03:52)

Last award (103,204) by Will from England What was the last music related award that Mariah received, that was not a lifetime achievement-esque related? (Thursday 17 August 2023; 22:05)

Perfection (103,175) by Will from England Someone did an AI version of Mariah doing a snippet of All Cried Out. (Sunday 13 August 2023; 01:04) this is a reply to message 103,173

Perfection (103,173) by Terna from Nigeria Yeah "All cried out" is a remake by "Lisa Lisa and cult Jam". You can imagine my shock stumbling upon it while on Spotify. Haha. However, I do think Allure did the song better. (Saturday 12 August 2023; 17:11)

I owe Mariah's earpiece an apology (102,142) by Will from England So I think they used those big box monitor speakers to play back the music that they still put out on stage, but not sure if they still use them or not. Even Micheal Jackson hated using the earpieces and fiddled with them as they felt like a fist in your ear, as he said during that This Is It documentary. I think even Mariah mentioned that she didn't like using them and only really started using them during TAOM tour, I've never seen her use them before then. I don't think that they're very comfortable pieces of equipment, as they are moulded to fit into your ear exactly, so that they're ultra noise cancelling so the artist can hear a click track/whatever part of the track you want to hear vs your own voice (hence why she says "turn me up a bit"/backstage comms/whatever. Back then in the 60s/70s, was it a thing to do huge stadium tours as is so common now? Also, the nature of people seeing shows has changed, as my dad regularly tells me, you would go to a show and you'd be quiet so you could hear the performance, not screaming all throughout as is most common now - that's why some artists get so thrown off by the Japanese/Asian fans during shows as they're most silent as a mark of respect. (Friday 27 January 2023; 20:21) this is a reply to message 102,128

I owe Mariah's earpiece an apology (102,128) by Randy from USA So the Dubai concert Beyonce did has taken over my TikTok. I noticed one thing. She was singing a note and started fiddling with her ear monitor. I thought that was something only MC did when she knew she sounded bad to fool the audience into thinking she couldn't hear herself and there were technical issues. I will say Beyoncé sounded fine when she was messing with it so maybe she couldn't hear herself. I notice Mariah does it every time she's on television but at any rate, does anyone have any knowledge on this topic? Why do people have to adjust the volume on them? Isn't this what a sound check is for? Why are they necessary at all? What did singers do in the 60s and 70s when they didn't have the option to have them? (Wednesday 25 January 2023; 17:55)

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