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Name: Randy
Country: USA
MC is my favorite artist of all time and I love her songwriting skills on her introspective songs. My favorite album: Butterfly. My favorite song: Right To Dream.
Best song intro (102,777) by Randy from USA
(Saturday 27 May 2023; 18:13)
Both Vision of Love and Fantasy (the pop version) have this dramatic ominous tone that lets you know some sh*t is about to go down.
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This is a reply to message 102,774 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 27 May 2023; 04:02)
Martyn Hett (102,766) by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 24 May 2023; 22:34)
Andrew, you and I have had our ups and downs but the fact that you make sure that this board memorializes Martyn yearly, warms my spirit and speaks strongly of your heart. I and this board misses you. And we miss Martyn. I know this board squabbles but we are definitely family and regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender or nationality, we all love MC and deep down we now all love each other. Martyn always showed love to Mariah and all of us. May he rest in paradise.
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This is a reply to message 102,755 by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Monday 22 May 2023; 00:49)
My issue with Rainbow (102,753) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 21 May 2023; 15:18)
I think your problem with me is that I speak the truth and always have receipts. And yes I will be a broken record until we find out what happened in 1997. But I said some positive things about Rainbow the album. I waited outside of Sam Goody for 20 minutes until they opened. I had the Rainbow album cover on the back of my bathroom door. I don't hate MC. Never did. I hate MC's deceit. And I still love you Terna.
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This is a reply to message 102,752 by Terna from Nigeria
(Sunday 21 May 2023; 14:11)
My issue with Rainbow (102,748) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 21 May 2023; 02:18)
I swear, I really do not come here to be negative. But that era introduced something insidious. Mariah's first lip sync was on the Oprah show in 1997 when she lipped Butterfly. Afterwards she sang everything for Butterfly and #1s live. When the promotion for Rainbow started that's when she started regularly lipping climaxes. Look at the ten thousand performances of Can't Take That Away. I agree with you the album is amazing from start to finish. But that was around the time Mariah started deceiving us live so I can't wave the Rainbow flag.
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Good Lord, just enjoy the show (102,715) by Randy from USA
(Thursday 11 May 2023; 23:29)
I was taken aback by your original message but hell, I say what I want so you should be able to too. We are a dysfunctional family so it's no need to apologize. I think what's also frustrating to the negatives is that even though Christina Aguilera, Fantasia have lost some range, they still sound like themselves during the verses of their songs and only may struggle or duck the climaxes. MC doesn't even seem to be able to sing her verses. And to add insult to injury, to see Xscape, Chanté Moore and Patti Labelle still burning stages down in the last two years. Yea, I know. I know. MC has nodules, her voice is different, she has nuances in the way she sings, belting is boring as hell, the stage was too hot, the dressing room was too cold, she has the sniffles, a black cat crossed her path etc. You get the drift.
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This is a reply to message 102,713 by jaker20 from US
(Thursday 11 May 2023; 17:38)
Randy follow up (102,694) by Randy from USA
(Tuesday 9 May 2023; 01:23)
That would be three but what kills me about this whole thing is how the internet keeps giving her writing credits. The only reason I thought she co-wrote All My Life was because if you google it all of the sites say she wrote it with Rick James. I don't know why she didn't collaborate on Almost Home. Isn't that Stargate whom she's worked with before? But yea the internet has me stating the wrong information and you know how much I'm about the truth.
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This is a reply to message 102,693 by Bill from the UK
(Monday 8 May 2023; 23:38)
Maybe I'm missing something? (102,683) by Randy from USA
(Monday 8 May 2023; 12:39)
So I watched the concert and to be honest, this is how MC has sounded since Caution. No better no worse. The strained sustained notes to prove she can sing. The cutting up of long notes and adding stacatto "hey hey". The moments of clarity that we all know are backing tracks. Background singers singing verses that don't have backgrounds on verses on the original. The fidgeting with the ear monitor. The tossing the hair from side to side when she lips a note in case she miscounted how long to keep her mouth open. All of this is normal. So to come here and see you guys say it's a new low or it's bad baffles me. Some of you are acting like the house just caught fire. It burned down a long time ago.
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All My Life (102,666) by Randy from USA
(Saturday 6 May 2023; 12:27)
Bill, I stand corrected. On the innanet (webmaster please leave that spelling for dramatic effect) people have wrongfully given MC a songwriting credit, but I checked my Glitter CD and you are right. Rick James wrote All My Life. Then, me being the nerd I am, looked to see if it is a cover from one of his album cuts or something. It's not. There is a rumor that it's an old song he wrote for the Mary Jane girls but that can't be substantiated. So here's where we unreal fans stand. There are two songs in the Mariah Carey catalogue that she has recorded that are not remakes that she did not have a hand in writing. When You Believe and All My Life.
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Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,660) by Randy from USA
(Friday 5 May 2023; 04:48)
Ummmm Bill dahling, I did some digging and MC is given writing credits on both All My Life and Almost Home so I think my statement stands. When You Believe is the only original song she has recorded with no writing credit on. Webmaster E. That's your rap name. I think the award is for the lyrics and melody. I don't think it was awarded for only the film version or they would've had the actresses sing it at the Oscars and not MC and Whitney. I think no matter what you do to a song musically, the lyric and melody credit always goes to the original songwriter and the producer that adds to or changes it still doesn't get writing credit, just whatever producer credit he's entitled to because he added to it.
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This is a reply to message 102,657 by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 4 May 2023; 23:34)
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,655) by Randy from USA
(Thursday 4 May 2023; 22:17)
The award goes to the songwriter. That I believe is the only original song, she's ever done that she didn't write.
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This is a reply to message 102,653 by MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 4 May 2023; 20:10)
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,650) by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 3 May 2023; 21:07)
Edward, I think that original song Oscar could be hers. Eminem and John Legend have won it. Almost Home and Right To Dream are great songs. You know I'm the eternal optimist.
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This is a reply to message 102,649 by Edward from USA
(Wednesday 3 May 2023; 20:58)
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,647) by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 3 May 2023; 17:25)
So again MC doesn't make it? And every relevant pop diva has (Madonna, Janet and Whitney). I'm disgusted. But yass queens and delusionals will say she doesn't need it, she's broken records and she's a legend in her own right. The Tony award nomination is exciting. Imagine if MC was to eventually earn an EGOT. She should've been nominated for an Oscar for Right To Dream. Oh shut up y'all.
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Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA
(Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)
One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts?
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Maybe an EP or a Maxi Single? (102,595) by Randy from USA
(Thursday 20 April 2023; 23:43)
I do agree that MC is going to lose fans if she doesn't release an album soon, however, I don't know if releasing a studio album is profitable for her anymore. I'm noticing that Cardi B hasn't released her second album. Many other acts wait a long time between albums. We got spoiled by the 90s. Maybe MC could give as an EP or a maxi-single with different versions like I Still Believe or My All/Stay Awhile. It would have to be a killer single though not an Infinity or I Don't.
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New Mariah titles (one word) (102,552) by Randy from USA
(Thursday 13 April 2023; 23:36)
I love Reign but it does sound like a greatest hits title. And the last thing we need is another repackaging of the number ones. I still say Harmony is the best out of all of our titles thus far. You know what else we don't need is another discussion by us or interview with MC discussing her race. That discussion is as tired as a whistle on a 14 minute version of Bliss.
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This is a reply to message 102,545 by Norman from USA
(Thursday 13 April 2023; 06:14)
New Mariah titles (one word) (102,536) by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 12 April 2023; 01:00)
So Bill, I wasn't feeling your list. So I asked AI for ten titles that were one word in keeping in line with Emotions, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter. I still didn't like the list lol but I think Harmony is the best no? And she has already touched on a lot of these lol.

We must really be bored lol.
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I think an album is coming (102,519) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 9 April 2023; 19:40)
I think she always goes on vacation before promotion. In addition, it's been awhile since Caution. Furthermore, it's been quiet lately. We all know MC can make an album in three months. And for the record I like Rainbow. Her voice is not in great shape but she is the queen of studio magic. Even if MC is not signed, she can easily announce a signing and an album at the same time. What do y'all think?
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Music Box (102,502) by Randy from USA
(Friday 7 April 2023; 16:11)
I usually agree wit you Edward but to call MIAMTEC depressing is kinda funny. The second half of Music Box is slit your wrist fantastic. Never Forget You, Without You, Just To Hold You Once Again, All I Ever Wanted and if Sony had the balls to add Everything Fades Away it's the saddest thing since Terms of Endearment. All MC albums are sad to me. That's why I connect. I think MIAMTEC is her worst album but not because it's depressing. It's incoherent and her vocals sound like they were produced by AI.
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This is a reply to message 102,501 by Edward from USA
(Friday 7 April 2023; 13:24)
I miss album (102,478) by Randy from USA
(Thursday 6 April 2023; 00:12)
Butterfly will always be my favorite experience. Music Box and Daydream stole me from Whitney to Mariah. Oh don't get me wrong. Whitney will always be the better vocalist. Just not the better voice. But even still, what I got from MC was the personal experience. The alienation of Looking In, Close My Eyes and Outside. I feel as though Celine and Whitney never got that personal at the time. Madonna and Janet did but they didn't have the voices. MC was the balance. And when I listen to the lyrics of Butterfly, My All and Breakdown, there will never ever be another album experience like Butterfly.
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This is a reply to message 102,477 by Edward from USA
(Wednesday 5 April 2023; 23:06)
I miss albums (102,472) by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 5 April 2023; 16:24)
Edward, I get your single idea but it breaks my heart. I feel like an album wouldn't benefit her in this current music industry. But how I miss the anticipation. I miss it being a project. Having a theme. I know it's for the nostalgia but remember waiting outside of Sam Goody or Tower Records? Remember struggling to get that plastic tape off the top of the CD? We don't get liner notes and pictures anymore. It's just sad. Imagine if movies weren't a thing and you just got a scene at a time. Imagine if a baseball game was one inning and everyone went home. I feel like an album is like a novel. A page is special but you need the entire story.
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Observation (102,443) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 2 April 2023; 12:22)
I never listed reasons I didn't like MC anymore. I do like MC or else I wouldn't be here. I just wanted to prove a point. MC does what no other singer has ever done in history. Excuse herself relentlessly. And Terna, you were very gracious in your counter to me. A lot more gracious than I would expect. I think I'm developing a crush. At the end of the day, I have a 24x36 of MC in my living room. I am obsessed. Maybe that's why I pick everything apart. Because I actually care too much. Good night y'all. Webmaster thanks for always letting me post.
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This is a reply to message 102,437 by Lady B from USA
(Sunday 2 April 2023; 04:35)
Observation (102,434) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 2 April 2023; 01:02)
As tired as you are of us picking Mariah apart, we are tired of being told that we are not fans and we are evil people. Nobody's mad because MC doesn't have the same voice as 1990. Hell, she didn't even have the same voice in 1998. The real issue is the deception and the excuses. How did she go from saying publicly, :I would never lip sync" in the 90s to lip syncing most of her climaxes in 99 and beyond? And then not telling us what happened? I didn't want to do this on this board but a few years ago, I put together all of MCs excuses. In her own words. I don't ever argue without receipts. Oh and I still love MC. You can view the video here.
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This is a reply to message 102,431 by Lady B from USA
(Saturday 1 April 2023; 21:38)
Divas week has officially begun (102,371) by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 11:49)
Break out your sequins, egos and melisma. Divas week has officially begun. Birthdays to celebrate:
3/22 Stephanie Mills
3/23 Chaka Khan
3/25 Aretha Franklin
3/26 Diana Ross
3/27 Mariah Carey
3/30 Celine Dion
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MTV 90's (102,342) by Randy from USA
(Sunday 12 March 2023; 13:47)
Mariah should be given the video vanguard award. My favorite is Heartbreaker but Honey isn't too far behind. I also love the Through The Rain video. You know who else has not gotten the video vanguard award? Paula Abdul. I think it's a shame Nikki got it before MC and Paula.
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This is a reply to message 102,341 by Lainsky from Philippines
(Sunday 12 March 2023; 04:15)
Remixes (102,325) by Randy from USA
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 22:51)
I don't know if I told y'all this but I started replacing the album tracks with the rap or remix version of her songs. I put the Bad Boy Remix of Honey with Mase and the Lox as track one of Butterfly. I also switched out The Roof and Breakdown with the longer rap versions that were on the maxi-singles. I replaced Fantasy with the Bad Boy mix. That's the one with both the pop hook and r&b hook and ODB. I replaced Obsessed with the one with Gucci Mane and replaced Up Out My Face with the one with Nicki's rap. I also replaced Angel's Cry for the duet version with Neyo. On my Club/Hip Hop playlist I have My All/Stay Awhile. On my Dance playlist I absolutely live for the 13 minute Through The Rain Mix Hex Hector did, the 12 minute Fantasy David Morales Mix, the My All Classic Club Mix (even though I'm sick of feel ya body, feel ya body, feel ya body), I also have both the I Still Believe mixes (the kings mix and the club mix). Finally the Don't Forget About Us Ralphi Rosario & Craig J Mix is awesome.
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This is a reply to message 102,322 by Edward from USA
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 13:36)
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