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Not surprised (106,270) by Jamie from UK I agree, that post from Instagram I put on shows the Mariah she should be, professional, executed and a performer. The diva persona is where she went wrong in my eyes. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 18:33) this is a reply to message 106,269

Not surprised (106,269) by Randy from USA Mary J Blige has 9 Grammys and 2 Oscar nominations. People don't snicker when you say her name. And listen Lee, I think you think I'm arguing for MJB. I'm not. There's not a damn thing Mary can do better than MC. Sing, write, dress, give face. MC wins. What I was saying is that the industry respects her more and that's why she was selected over MC. And again a lot of this is MCs fault. She has Tyra and Heidi Klum on stage doing her makeup. She's more interested in her dullard damsel diva than being an artist. She's laying in bed for a portion of her concert. The optics aren't there for an iconic artist. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 17:33)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,260) by Jamie from UK Really don't get the whole Taylor Swift thing. She's good but she's not that good. I just do understand why there is so much hype about her. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 13:47) this is a reply to message 106,259

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,259) by Robert-Anthony from United States I often wonder how a Daydream album would sell in 2024 if it was released in 2024. Would it sell a million copies plus during in its first week and break Spotify records? Would Fantasy, One Sweet Day and ABMB break streaming and iTunes records? I picked Daydream because that is when MC's career went into overdrive and her popularity increased. Tortured Poets Department seems to be Taylor Swift's Daydream. Her popularity is so high right now. She could release a David Guetta and Zedd TPD remix album in the Fall and it would sell 1.2 million plus copies too. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 03:07)

Natural Mariah (106,256) by Jamie from UK I just saw this on Instagram. Bit out of season but I love how natural and effortless she is here. She was so cool without even trying to be cool. (Monday 22 April 2024; 18:50)

Instagram comment (106,227) by Jamie from UK Just seen a comment on Instagram saying that Mariah is like a truck driver in heels. It did make me laugh. Not her best look if I'm honest. (Friday 19 April 2024; 18:08)

Article: Lenny Kravitz and Mariah Carey are dating? (106,149) by Jamie from UK Mariah and Lenny have been friends for years. I highly doubt they are in a relationship. Rather just media speculation. (Saturday 13 April 2024; 13:09) this is a reply to message 106,143

Article: Lenny Kravitz and Mariah Carey are dating? (106,143) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Woah finally a high profile relationship and someone who'd understand a star of her calibre. (Saturday 13 April 2024; 03:53)

Mariah and Janet (106,121) by Jamie from UK Yes I prefer The One to Boy but both are no where near as radio friendly as Janet's Jam. Charmbracelet is more of a fans album only, I'm grateful for it as I am with all her work. But I feel at that point when her career had taken a bit of a knock she should have been encouraged to do more radio friendly main stream music to reconnect with the public. Oh and don't get me started on Le register de whistle lol. (Sunday 7 April 2024; 14:34) this is a reply to message 106,119

Mariah and Janet (106,119) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter "The One" would have been a better choice. And it was the original choice. The video for Boy was for "The One" but I think the label made her change it because I remember a video where someone asks her about The One and she says something like you should ask the label I want it to be a single. I also love the remix of The One. (Saturday 6 April 2024; 15:20)

Mariah and Janet (106,118) by Jamie from UK Janet's song is far superior than Boy, it's upbeat and catchy. Whilst I like Boy, it lacks something and wasn't radio friendly. (Saturday 6 April 2024; 11:05) this is a reply to message 106,102

Mariah and Janet (106,102) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Wow have you guys seen this? The video concept is so similar, Japanese futuristic styles, robots, driving in a futuristic city etc. The songs have similar vibes too. (Thursday 4 April 2024; 16:53)

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,894) by Jamie from UK Must be Alison. (Friday 8 March 2024; 00:18) this is a reply to message 105,892

Mariah never lied or let anyone on (105,892) by Robert-Anthony from United States Come clean, T. Who are you? Lambs would like to know. (Thursday 7 March 2024; 22:54)

The age thing (105,814) by Jamie from UK Thanks for that. I have a flight booking of hers from about 2003 which showed her true age from passport. (Thursday 29 February 2024; 10:38) this is a reply to message 105,812

The age thing (105,812) by Robert-Anthony from United States Oops. The url is bad because I missed a character or number when I typed it. However, if you type in my Google search - Why is there confusion about Mariah Carey's birth year, then scroll down and you will see the link - Mariah's true age is finally proven. (Wednesday 28 February 2024; 23:10)

The age thing (105,809) by Jamie from UK So I've just noticed that when you do a search for Mariah's age it no longer gives the 1970/1969 debate and just shows her true year of birth being 1969. Wonder why they now decided to come clean after all these years. (Wednesday 28 February 2024; 14:03)

Controversial (105,791) by Jamie from UK I think it's inevitable that every artist reaches a point where they are no longer mainstream. It's just a natural process, new artists come along and people's focus switches. The thing Mariah has on her side is that she's part of an elite group that are considered the last legacy artists, or real artists. Everything these days is so manufactured and people forget about you easily these days. Fame is short lived and there's no longevity. The likes of Mariah, Celine, Whitney and Janet to name but a few were probably the last divas we will have and it's nice that they are etched in time. They are lucky that they are still relevant in the media as many others have been forgotten about. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 16:18) this is a reply to message 105,790

Controversial (105,790) by Tevin from USA Ok the question that I'm about to ask isn't ment to cause negativity or shade. Since we have been talking about Mariah's career tragetory and eras the last few weeks, I started to ask myself this question, and I'm curious to hear everyone's opinion. If Mariah's voice did not deteriorate (she can still sing by the way), do you think her career tragetory would have been different (from where we are currently at now), or do you think it was inevitable that she would be put in "legacy" status, due to her age, and ageism in the industry? (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 16:01)

Cardi B (105,789) by Jamie from UK Yes and better that it's a collaboration from the start rather than a remix after initial release. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 15:50) this is a reply to message 105,787

Cardi B (105,787) by Robert-Anthony from United States MC needs something like a Cardi B collaboration to get fans and non-fans hyped about MC16. I feel the collaboration is long overdue just like a Drake collaboration. Let's hope April gives us some huge surprises and annoucements. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 15:11)

TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,782) by Jamie from UK If only [Out here on my own] had been recorded now and with those vocals it would have been a hit. (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 13:21) this is a reply to message 105,777

TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,777) by Robert-Anthony from United States Yes Mimi. They come on strong and then everybody forgets about them the next week. Do you remember the following? 1. Triumphant 2. 100% 3. I Don't 4. Infinity 5. GTFO 6. Save The Day 7. In The Mix However, there is one that beats all seven of these that I mentioned and it should have had a proper video with a huge radio impact. 1. Out Here On My Own (Tuesday 27 February 2024; 01:39)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,754) by Jamie from UK Yes, that video was awful and on the [Love Takes Time] beach too. (Sunday 25 February 2024; 19:57) this is a reply to message 105,751

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,751) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Obsessed was a great first choice just like TMB was a great first choice for E=MC2, but similar to the latter the next single choices and the cheesy music videos ruined it. MOAIA was going to be an ambitious project with 2 remix projects (one with high profile collabs) and it had an Elle magazine tie in. But at the end of the day what sells an album is how it's introduced to the world and the singles play a huge role in it (in my opinion). So releasing HATEU, which is a great song, don't get me wrong, but not single worthy with that hideous video, was a mess. And then IWKWLI. There were other great options which had catchy choruses and more radio friendly that could have been better choices like MTJF, BGK etc. Also the HATEU remix would have done better than the OG. Don't get me wrong, it could be joint decisions between MC and LA and not solely LA's fault, but as the label executive he should have known better. Also the comments he made when she came to epic implying she has no original hits in her and should just sing covers, I felt was a big insult to someone who puts her songwriting over her singing. (Sunday 25 February 2024; 17:49)

New album (105,727) by Jamie from UK I think she's just gonna have to go with it, I feel there's never a great time to release albums especially when you're up against all the latest trends. I think she should just release a great album and what will be will be. But we need a great promotion strategy, plenty of appearances, interviews and a lead song that's gonna grab the attention of radio. It's so much harder with the older artists to get the radio airplay that they need, but I'm hoping Mariah has a great album up her sleeve. I loved Caution, But we need some more uptempo tracks with a lighter carefree sound. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:58) this is a reply to message 105,709

New album (105,709) by Robert-Anthony from United States I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:22)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,726) by Jamie from UK Problem with you is you want everyone to agree with what you think, but unfortunately they didn't, you lost this argument. Even the webmaster jumped in to say it. I've seen that clip before, nobody ever wants to hear criticism but if you can accept it and learn from it then all the better. I'm not hating on her and being negative like some none fans are on twitter. I just think a bit of constructive criticism would be good at times with Mariah as I only want the best for her as do a lot of people on this forum hence why we're so passionate. If you think that your gonna come here and not hear fans give constructive criticism at times with something they choose not to like then your gonna be constantly disappointed. As a fan you're allowed to not like certain songs, it doesn't make you any less of a fan. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 21:50) this is a reply to message 105,716

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,716) by JC from United States Buying a cd doesn't allow you to make demands about her voice and career, nobody forced you. You will never get it. Tell me how you feel about watching this. (Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:31)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,701) by Jamie from UK Thanks Libra Lamb. (Friday 23 February 2024; 23:02) this is a reply to message 105,699

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,699) by Libra Lamb from USA For the record, I have always liked your posts Jamie. (Friday 23 February 2024; 22:09)

Taryn Murphy / Make it go away (105,698) by Jamie from UK Yes I love that song, I always wished that MC sung it. (Friday 23 February 2024; 21:42) this is a reply to message 105,695

Taryn Murphy / Make it go away (105,695) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love this song since I first heard it on the "Wise Girls" movie. I always thought it would suit Mariah too. I wish there was a version sung by MC. Some parts of it reminds me a bit of Mariah. (Friday 23 February 2024; 19:38)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,697) by Jamie from UK (Friday 23 February 2024; 21:39) this is a reply to message 105,693

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,693) by Libra Lamb from USA Even though I replied to your post, I was not talking about you specifically, I meant that in a general way and only towards the naysayers. I know you're not one of them, sorry if there's a misunderstanding. (Friday 23 February 2024; 18:07)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,691) by Jamie from UK Did Mariah not say on numerous occasions "I owe it all to the fans"? Well that works both ways I'm afraid when you put yourself in the public domain. You have to earn people's respect and give your fans what they want. Do whatever you like in your personal life but when it comes to your fanbase they have invested a lot of time in her as an artist and only want the best from her. I wasn't negative about her latest release with Ariana, I actually praised it. But I appreciate it's not everyone's favourite, I'm not gonna sit here and type your all something else for not like it as I accept everyone has a difference in opinions. From your post you think Mariah should just do mediocre performances from now on, and everyone should just say that's ok it's Mariah she's allowed to, she doesn't care about that stuff. And again that's fine you're entitled to your opinion, but remember a lot of us have an opinion to you and that's ok too. Ps I sang this back to myself just so you know some of us can sing. (Friday 23 February 2024; 16:50) this is a reply to message 105,687

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,687) by JC from United States Your response is the issue though. Opinions are fine but thinking you deserve and are owed something. She doesn't owe you or anyone anything. Not everyone will love her but you guys are something else. Like already we don't know how much longer she will put up with this bs. You don't think she's tired of seeing YouTube videos of lambs comparing vocals from 1990 to recent ones, lambs need to stop being note [censored]. She doesn't care about that stuff. None of you can or will ever be able to sing. Therefore you know nothing about the subject. (Friday 23 February 2024; 16:07)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,690) by Jamie from UK But I haven't said I want or expect another Music Box. And I think any of us knows that's not gonna happen. My point is that not everyone will like what she puts out and that's fine. Some people don't like Music Box but that's ok too. We're not all robots that have to agree with everything. (Friday 23 February 2024; 16:35) this is a reply to message 105,684

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,684) by Libra Lamb from USA I get what you're saying Jamie. I'm not talking about the usual difference of opinions. I'm passionate about MC and I always defend her but I know it's coming from a positive place. Passionately tearing her to shreds is quite different. MC and her voice have evolved while some fans are stuck in the past waiting for another Music Box that will never happen. Before you call me delusional for staying positive and supportive, delusional would be not acknowledging that her voice will never be the same as it was in her prime. People change, and we must either accept it or move on, there's no need to diagnose her, then whine and moan every time new music comes out, it's unhealthy for everyone involved. I'm very direct, perhaps too direct for some. That's my humble opinion and I stand by it. (Friday 23 February 2024; 15:14)

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,682) by Jamie from UK Because everyone is individual and has their own opinions. Not one fan is the same. I personally love the remix and stated I thought her vocals were great in it. But I'm open to the thought that others might not like it and that's ok. It's that the point of a forum for everyone to bring their thoughts to the table and create a debate. I'm all for positivity but I'm also open to criticism too otherwise how do people grow. No one truly knows what's going on with Mariah or her voice at times but as fans who have invested so much time in our artist it's only normal to have an opinion one way or the other. It doesn't mean people love her any less. If people didn't comment one way or the other then I would be worried as to me that would show that any passion they have for Mariah has gone. I'm so excited for a new Mariah album if every track is amazing then fantastic but I don't think we should be getting into a culture where we can't say exactly how we feel about something because as I said not everyone likes the same things and that is ok. (Friday 23 February 2024; 11:07) this is a reply to message 105,674

I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,674) by JC from United States This is suppose to be a Mariah fan board, all I've seen is negative uncalled for opinions on Mariah and her voice, you guys think she's a robot? I recently saw a video of twitter spaces, some lamb had the balls to tell Mariah that every time she performs the lambs wonder if she will hit a g7 or how high she will go. Meanwhile this lamb works at Burger King but thinks he knows everything about her voice. I noticed this was her last time on twitter spaces. You guys are ruining this for her, y'all don't know anything about her voice or what's going on, have some respect for the woman who supposedly you say saved your life with her music. I really hope she doesn't release anything new. Why would she? Just for you guys to disect and judge her voice condition. I used to love this board, before all the lambs became vocal teachers. (Thursday 22 February 2024; 23:19)

General public or bad decisions (105,644) by Jamie from UK Yes I agree, what Mariah and Walter had was magical. They should have continued to work together whilst allowing her to still experiment with different sounds as she did with David & Robert. I sometimes feel once singers are established they then want to go off and do what they like. I think it's important to follow things you like however as an artist they are launched in a way that the record executives know will work, and I feel being a music artist should be like an actor. Stick with what works, take advice from others, live your private life the way you want to. But ultimately don't accept a career launch that you say goes against what you believe in and like just to get famous and then decide to turn against that image and style because your now famous and think you can do what you like. People already bought into and loved the Mariah we were introduced to from day one. Changing the dynamics so much to the point your artistry is no longer recognizable, I'm afraid cost her her popularity with the general public. I'm still a Mariah fan because I like her music but I don't agree with how much she changed from what people loved about her and in my eyes actually worked for her and ultimately made her more popular. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 15:26) this is a reply to message 105,624

General public or bad decisions (105,624) by Robert-Anthony from United States MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10)

SNL (105,637) by Jamie from UK I wonder if it's true, time will tell. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 12:52) this is a reply to message 105,633

SNL (105,633) by Shezz from Pk I'm a little worried about how she'll sound (if it is true). It's a lot of strained belting. Let's see how much is going to be live and how much lipped. I hope she puts in the effort to do it justice. Insiders are saying the Cardi collaboration will be her next step - which is bound to get more people mad here. (Wednesday 21 February 2024; 10:37)

General public or bad decisions (105,612) by Jamie from UK I'm sat here and a thought came into my head regarding Mariah and her career. For the majority of the 1990's Mariah could do no wrong, she was America's sweetheart and had countless number one songs and albums. People took her into their hearts and adored her. From 1997 she made what some call a drastic change in musical direction and lost some of her core fanbase as a result. However she continued to have number one songs and albums even through a difficult time with Sony and Tommy Mottola. Why was it then that during her most difficult time in her life in 2001 did people turn their backs on her? Surely someone who they had grown to love had spent so long adoring her and buying her music would want to support her during this difficult time. Glitter and Charmbracelet failed to sell anywhere near what she would normally sell. My point is, is it the general public who turn on an artist so quickly, is it the music industry and media that set current trends what is a hit and what the people want or is it bad decisions made by Mariah the artist. For me it's just difficult to understand how such a quick switch in popularity can happen with someone who was literally a force of nature at one point. Firstly I don't think the whole Glitter film helped her persona one bit, 9/11 didn't help but the film just wasn't good enough 9/11 or not. The album or soundtrack is great but in hindsight should it have been left on the shelf once the film tanked to help control the damage from the film and save her also having a music flop too which was unheard of at the time. Would her next album then have been more well received by the public. For me I like Charmbracelet but it feels almost like a complete different body of work to the rest of her catalogue (present and past included) the whole vibe is just different. Were bad decisions made by Mariah creatively should she have come back with an upbeat track ala Fantasy/Honey mode and had less rappers on the album, it would be interesting to see if the Glitter album hadn't been released and she had come back with a stronger album (maybe a combination of Glitter tracks and new ones and called it something else) how her popularity would have been at that time and now. Or had the public already turned their backs on her and changed their view of her as a person. Obviously we had Emancipation but that was very short lived, and since then with the exception of Touch My Body and Christmas she hasn't got anywhere near the popularity she should have had. Do you think the general public just doesn't warm to her anymore, is it Mariah's decisions of music creativity or the way her persona has come across post 2001, or do you think it's the music industry making wrong decisions for her career? We can't change what happens but sometimes it's interesting to put a different spin on how we think things could have gone or been. Would love to hear your views and where you think things went wrong or could have been different for her. (Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:36)

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