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Taylor Swift (110,493) by Lambi from USA Blow up doll = never ending boob jobs. Present father = could've protected her from Alison selling her to a pimp, from Tommy's dangerous relationship and the evil of Hollywood. I'm getting to the nucleus of it. You can all boil it down to a lack of a father's presence. But out of respect for Alfred Roy, I'm sure he had his traumas in the military, which is why a stable household was a challenge. He exited on a peaceful note with MC so they at least both got to have that. I hope this helps. (Friday 15 August 2025; 00:00) this is a reply to message 110,489

Taylor Swift (110,489) by Dove from United States MC has defended herself pretty well throughout her life and career. She has God defending her and fighting her battles for her. I'm not sure what you meant by "blow up doll" but just because someone is beautiful and curvaceous doesn't mean they're not smart or don't stand up for themselves. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 15:36)

Taylor Swift (110,488) by Lambi from USA I'm so happy to hear that. Blake Lively is despicable. She tried to threaten Taylor Swift by saying, "I'm going to leak ten years of your messages if you don't stand up for me." Taylor is going to flex her empire hard. I've also been following the lawsuit, so knowing that she's preparing to clap back is exciting. I also became a fan of Scott Swift, her dad, in the process. When he heard about the threats, he immediately gave the information to the opposing team, so now they have evidence of Blake Lively's extortion attempt. I love it. It made me wish Mariah had a protective father figure like that throughout her life. Maybe she wouldn't be so damaged and wouldn't be the blow-up doll she is today, if she had consistently felt deeply loved by a father since she was a child. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 15:03) this is a reply to message 110,486

Taylor Swift (110,486) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Taylor is coming guns blazing. First of all we already know her team is insane with the promotions so I expect it to ramp up pretty soon. Taylor herself is very involved in these, she knows how to get her fans excited so she'll take full advantage. Plus she's featuring Sabrina Carpenter in one of her songs which is bound to bring more listeners and she is heavily implying she's got songs about her fall out with Blake Lively which is a huge topic currently so she's got all the attention. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 14:16)

Stay The Night raw (110,485) by Lambi from USA That is indeed true, that was around the pandemic. She shocked everyone with those beautiful belts. The resonance and the quality were there. But I did ask the same thing during the pandemic because I found her Through The Rain/Make It Happen medley also a little chipmunkey. How do you belt that beautifully raw and sound rough on record? Could it be the fact that the room she was in, had amazing acoustics? It was open and the mic wasn't too close which avoided distortion. Plus homegirl probably slept 16 hours because that was an absolute great vocal day. Maybe she just needs to try out different recording techniques. The belts in that clip sounded so naturally beautiful, little bit of polishing, but did not need to be pitched up whatsoever. You can literally take the audio from the clip and make a stripped version and it will sound like a 2008 remix. I truly believe she still has it. A great vocal day might be incredibly rare because Mariah has a terrible relationship with sleep, it's probably gotten more rare as she ages and as her nodules worsen, but when that once-in-a-blue-moon day comes, Emancipation-riah will be snatching these new pop girlies wigs. This is also why I believe she refuses to acknowledge the elephant in the room that is her voice change. Because it is there, not by default, but it comes out probably thrice a year. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 12:30) this is a reply to message 110,447

Here For It All (110,447) by Edward from USA I have to agree with you about her vocals sounding a bit "chipmunkey" on the belting part of the "HFIA" clip. As for that impromptu performance of "Stay the Night", it was from about five years ago, during the pandemic. At the time, she said she'd gotten her voice back and wouldn't ever tour again, but sadly, that didn't last. I don't think she could replicate those vocals today; her voice is just too far gone. Mariah is a perfectionist, so what we're hearing in the "HFIA" clip is most likely the very best she could deliver, chosen from multiple takes. It's sad, but I think this is simply where her voice is now. (Wednesday 13 August 2025; 01:43)

Here For It All (110,484) by Lambi from USA Yup and that Allure release where she breaks down her music videos is basically campaign for her to win a VMA. She set up this year to be tremendously hyped, to be in the forefront and to win, which I'm pretty sure what will actually happen with this nomination. I'm kind of bummed it's through a mediocre song but it is about videos though, not music. She should've gotten it a long time ago with Shake It Off, even as early as Honey, so I'm pretty sure they're like, "Alright, let's just give it to her." Since she's never gotten one before. And with Gamma being a 400 million dollar company. They could easily pull some strings. Going to enjoy the moment. It's always festive when we see our Mariah on TV. Who knows? Maybe she'll drop the 3rd single then. She may have changed gears real quick when she realizes the "favorites" in the album isn't hitting. I hope someone has told her, "Have you written with Jermaine yet?" Except scratch Jermaine and replace with today's hot new producer, with actual talent, then maybe a new WBT moment will come to fruition. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 11:56) this is a reply to message 110,474

Here For It All (110,474) by Edward from USA If I were Mariah, I would drop the album while the buzz is still hot, ideally within the next two weeks, while she's out promoting and the media is talking about it. It's clear now that the plan was for either "Type Dangerous" or "Sugar Sweet" to blow up and build momentum leading to the "Here For It All" release in September, but we're witnessing that's not how it's playing out. (Thursday 14 August 2025; 03:17)

Here For It All (110,446) by Lambi from USA I love Mariah but this does sound chipmunkey yet again. The rough thin belts are not going to be easy on the ears. Audio engineer who willingly went along and approved of this needs to be fired or he at least should encourage her to re-do some of the notes. She can actually still belt so beautifully. Remember this? Emancipation-riah is still there like it's 2005. What I don't quite understand is why it's not translating sonically on the record. I really love the melody, she absolutely delivered on that front. But somehow, the overall sound just isn't hitting. Mariah, girl, there's still time to edit. Get an audio engineer who will keep it real. Someone copy paste my comment on X, I'm not on it. (Wednesday 13 August 2025; 00:54) this is a reply to message 110,424

Here For It All (110,424) by Haiji from United States So this is what the title track sounds like. It's sounds similar to Portrait to me. I can't wait for the full song. (Monday 11 August 2025; 20:40)

The Bop That Got Away (110,434) by Lambi from USA Never Too Far was the right decision. If you noticed in the movie, it was meant to be Mariah's "I Will Always Love You" moment, a well-crafted song. Lead the Way was just a background noise moment in the film. Also, Asia ate up Never Too Far. It's still being sung in singing contests to this day. It's simply the more palatable ballad, just sadly released on 9/11, with no push from the label whatsoever. Angels Cry was also embraced in Asia. They chose well. It should have been It's a Wrap, though, to really maximize that era's success. Angels Cry also wasn't a lead single; it was a remix single, a last effort to salvage the album from flopping because, yet again, they weren't banking on Mariah at the end of MOAIA. Actually, as early as the second single, H.A.T.E.U., it felt like they just dropped her. I truly wonder why Def Jam did her dirty like that. You're Mine is good, but this era is when Mariah's voice "got ugly". That's the best way I can explain it. Her voice is still beautiful, but there was a dryness in her tone that made everything she sang on that album less stellar. Great songs. The melodies were melodying. But she lost quality in her voice, sadly. It's almost like the bitterness from the divorce mutated her voice. The belts were also pitched way too high. It's like Mine Again pitched up times three. With You was also the right choice. It's right up there with A No No as the bop that got away. The only thing I would change is the intro, it's a bit too long and I would slightly reduce the repetition of "With you, with you, with you," but only minimally. It was almost another WBT moment, yet once again, there was no backing from the label. (Tuesday 12 August 2025; 05:35) this is a reply to message 110,415

Great music (110,415) by Dove from United States She's dropped weak singles before. You're Mine (Eternal) comes to mind. Never too Far should not have been released as a single over Lead the Way. Angels Cry and With You should not have been released as singles over other more radio (or playlist) friendly songs on their albums. They're great songs but they're the type of songs you discover when listening to a whole album. For singles that are going to get airplay you need something that will grab and keep people's attention. When you're on a high point of your career, people will buy whatever you're putting out, it doesn't matter. But when you're trying to make a comeback after being away for a while, the singles do matter. (Monday 11 August 2025; 13:41)

MC's sleep struggle (110,433) by Lambi from USA You're right. I usually would say it's because of the lighting: "You're not giving me a key light, so I'm putting these on." But she did an interview with The Breakfast Club before, with her own personal lighting, and she still put on shades. It's usually a rare thing, but in all the recent interviews (Capital FM, Capital XTRA, KISS, Smooth Radio, Heart), she consistently had them on. So that's bizarre. The explanation that makes the most sense is puffiness and eye bags. Mariah struggles with sleep, so she would look like she hasn't slept. And with aging, wrinkles have probably started to become more noticeable. Someone recently captured her getting out of her car or arriving at a hotel. They caught her just a second before she put the shades on, and I've never seen her look that old and tired. For once, she looked relatively closer to her age. The common denominator with these interviews is that they're all daytime events. And like she said, "I don't have time for this daytime sh*t, I should be sleeping." Makeup could conceal the tiredness and puffiness around the eyes, but a full glam session takes time, and Kristofer probably isn't available every waking hour, so shades it is. (Tuesday 12 August 2025; 05:08) this is a reply to message 110,418

Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,418) by TJ from Norway I agree 100% with you on that one. She was so flirty and present back in 1997 in that interview. I wonder why she wears those huge sunglasses inside and it's like she's on weed. Really slow. (Monday 11 August 2025; 16:17)

Great music (110,412) by Lambi from USA Not gonna lie, I was actually really hopeful after reading that grand Gamma article. But after hearing the new singles, it seems like the quality of songwriting went down with Mariah's choice of co-writers. It's not bad, still solid by normal standards but Mariah is just held to a whole different level. She's literally never made one bad studio album. Ever. This is actually the first time she's dropped weak lead singles. It landed me to a hopeless point. I still want her to come through and prove me wrong though. Shut me up. I'm rooting for that. I think your assessment might be correct. This could be the Charmbracelet to the Emancipation. Only time will tell. But like you said, it is great quality music no matter what. (Monday 11 August 2025; 12:05) this is a reply to message 110,409

Great music (110,409) by Edward from USA I love the fact the board isn't stuck on the idea that great music has to equal chart positions anymore. These days, almost anything can blow up into a forgettable hit and disappear just as fast. Of course, I would like to see Mariah score a couple of big hits, but I'm not losing sleep over it. She's already proven herself time and time again. At the end of the day, the general public has the lard word on what catches on, and that's fine. Personally, I'd rather not hear any more new tracks before the album drops, unless it's a video or some fun remixes for "Sugar Sweet". I want to savor "Here For It All" the way we used to, sitting down, pressing play, and letting the whole album take me on a journey from start to finish. (Monday 11 August 2025; 03:30)

Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,411) by Lambi from USA MC can be sarcastic but I genuinely believe she had no idea about those women going up to space. Which is so awesome because the average person didn't care either. They tried to present it as, "One giant step for womankind," but it flopped and backfired so badly. Nobody took any of them as serious astronauts. (Monday 11 August 2025; 11:43) this is a reply to message 110,410

Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,410) by Jamie from UK I actually think Mariah was joking that she didn't know about Katy Perry. I think she was just being sarcastic. (Monday 11 August 2025; 10:31)

Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,407) by Lambi from USA I know exactly what you're talking, that could be partly be true on YouTube shorts but I checked, the comments are from real accounts, specifically on the video ET posted on Facebook. The comment section did pass the vibe check though. They roast her but at the same time praise her about being uninformed. Even MC knew it was questionable. They didn't really go to space. (Monday 11 August 2025; 02:48) this is a reply to message 110,405

Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,405) by Dove from United States Honestly, I think those comments are bots. I started noticing it around the time MOAIA came out. I started noticing the same negative comments on every single post or article about Mariah. I think it's called astroturfing. It's so that regular people who read the same comments over and over again start thinking they feel that way about it too. A lot of us are on autopilot half the time. She doesn't seem drunk or high. We all know what people who are drunk or high really sound/act like. I think a lot of it is she has to speak carefully because everything can be taken out of context and made into a sound bite these days. To me she just seems super chill. Like she DGAF anymore, because she knows she has nothing left to prove. I think the way she answered the question about Katy Perry going to space was classic Mariah. She lives in her own world and doesn't care about pop other stars. That's not even the type of music she listens to. I actually loved her response. (Monday 11 August 2025; 01:53)

Daniel Moore vs. Big Jim Wright (110,404) by Lambi from USA This is fun. Daniel worked on In The Mix, Fall In Love At Christmas, Portrait, and Type: Dangerous, which I thought are all mid. I get what you mean though. I think Moore is more encouraging to Mariah about embracing her recent voice after seeing that Mimi session. I can hear him say, "It's okay, we can lower the key here." Big Jim worked on Circles, Fly Like A Bird, Cry, and It's A Wrap, which are better songs, so to me he's a better match for Mariah musically. However, Mariah's most superior collaborator will forever be Walter. I know we share this sentiment. It's like music geniuses, match made in heaven. That was God's will. All I Want For Christmas Is You, One Sweet Day, Hero, Outside, Close My Eyes, Forever, My All are unmatched. Mariah hasn't made a ballad quite the same ever since. I truly do wish she would squash whatever unforgivable sin Walter did to her and just get on making new music. (Monday 11 August 2025; 01:49) this is a reply to message 110,394

Daniel Moore vs. Big Jim Wright (110,394) by Bobby A from United States I am loving the creativity Daniel Moore is bringing out MC more than Big Jim Wright. She seems to me that she is taking risks with her songs with Daniel Moore and being more vulnerable in her lyrics. I feel MC is going to answer a lot of questions in the track Here For It All. I feel we will get know MC better after HFIA. (Saturday 9 August 2025; 19:43)

Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,403) by Lambi from USA For whatever reason, this is the one that every media outlet picked up and it's going insanely viral right now. It's interesting to see how the general public perceives Mariah. The comments range from: "Is she high?" "Is she drunk?" "Sedated Mariah is forever a mood," to "She sounds like she's had a few." What's crazy is, I actually thought her recent interviews were decent, definitely better than the ones in Australia. But to the average viewer who isn't a lamb, there's no mercy; they'll just call it like they see it. I really hope she eases up on the meds. While she's not totally disoriented, it's obvious to the casual observer that something feels off. (Monday 11 August 2025; 01:18)

Save The Day (110,390) by Lambi from USA This should've been the one that made the cut. (Saturday 9 August 2025; 10:22) this is a reply to message 110,384

Save The Day (110,384) by Edward from USA Even then recorded acoustic version of "Close My Eyes" work well on "The Rarities". For me, The Pandemic song, as you call it, never existed. (Saturday 9 August 2025; 02:33)

I've been quiet ... Sugar Sweet (110,362) by Lambi from USA "Not comeback material" is correct. Both singles could've just been album cuts by Mariah's standards. Some of the non-singles from Caution felt stronger and would've made better singles if released now. These last two songs feel like they're just "good enough" not to be scrapped, but they're definitely close. It makes me wonder if Mariah is still in touch with the great songwriters of today, or if she really is just out of creative juice. Or has the overall quality of songwriters declined as well? Her top 3 collaborators, Jermaine Dupri, Manuel Seal, and Johntá Austin, are nowhere to be found. I wonder what's going on. Are they having royalty issues? Or did Mariah simply want a clean slate with fresh writers? Whatever she's doing, it's not working. Beyoncé's albums may be mid, but she chooses the right singles. Texas Hold 'Em and Cuff It were undeniable bangers and carried their entire eras, not in album sales but at least the tours. She knows how to curate a group of talented songwriters. Mariah is simply missing the mark. Happy to be proven wrong, though. Perhaps the hurt from Pat's death produced something directly from above. I know that when Mariah clings to God during catastrophic times, the melodies that arise are out of this world. Maybe the Clark Sisters gospel record is that moment. Maybe the balladeer Mariah has actually returned, because "Portrait" from Caution was not it. Still somewhat hopeful for this era, but I believe your assessments are pretty accurate. Mariah even said Sugar Sweet is everyone's favorite, so that signals to me that this was it. Everything is downhill from here unless she pulls a banger from under her sleeve quickly and blows everyone away. (Thursday 7 August 2025; 12:30) this is a reply to message 110,351

I've been quiet ... Sugar Sweet (110,351) by Randy from USA I've been really busy lately but I've been reading comments in the background. I feel as tho Mariah and Gamma made a big gamble with all this promotion and putting out these two singles. They're not bad lead singles like You're Mine Eternal. It's just that they're not undeniable hits like Touch My Body, You Don't Know What To Do (could've been). Neither of these said hit on first listen to me. They're cute songs but not comeback material. And now they may be heading for a flop. Caution debuted at #5 and at the rate this train is going I don't even see that. They have three options. 1. Release something fire, enough of this muddled opaque blah music. But that will mean we have heard a quarter of the album. And I'll be pissed if that Barbara [sic] track makes the album. 2. Push the album back which will piss the hardcore fans off. 3. Release the album now and see how people feel about it and maybe do a re-release if it flops and this time release something fire that's undeniable to the ear. This roll out is horrible because it's almost as if they believed one of those songs was a hit and would carry interest all the way to 9/26. Did they not take the MIAMTEC singles and Caution singles and their chart performance into consideration? Oh and I'm curious to know how Type Dangerous and Sugar Sweet are doing overseas. Artists always complain Americans are fickle. How's her Japanese fans reacting to the music? (Wednesday 6 August 2025; 13:46)

Random thoughts about aging and beauty (110,332) by Lambi from USA In the land of Kardashians and waist trainers, of course she's had some work done on her body. Her hips look like they were enhanced as well, but it's Hollywood, and this is the norm. I would say Mariah never really overdid anything, except for the boobs. She knew Nick loved them, so she consistently made them bigger and flaunted them for revenge. Stella famously said, "She just got her boobs done," but she didn't blow up her lips like Christina or Carrie Underwood, and she didn't do anything extreme like a Michael Jackson nose job. She always kind of harmonized with her natural beauty. At most, she may have had a non-invasive injection on the sides of her button nose to make it more subtle. She also has perfectly crafted veneers and a tiny bit of Botox here and there, but she still very much has a face that's hers. I can't remember where I saw it, but it was revealed that Mariah follows an all-blue food diet to preserve her youth. Her beautician said she has an extensive beauty regimen that involves getting three facials every week. With her money, she has access to top-tier beauty products. She really takes beauty seriously. I remember that right after she gave birth, she said, "We gotta stay pretty," while getting ready to take pictures with her newborns. She has always been invested in beauty, and she reaps what she sows. Mariah deserves all the amazing results because she has always put in the effort. (Tuesday 5 August 2025; 02:36) this is a reply to message 110,329

Random thoughts about aging and beauty (110,329) by Dove from United States Just one more. Her natural body is more athletic like Cindy Crawford. She didn't have much of a waist before and now she does. Even when she was really skinny she didn't have a super defined waist. They have lipo that makes your waist more defined. If she did that it was money well spent because clothes look better (in my opinion) when a woman has an hourglass shape. Also, around 45 jowls start appearing and they're not as easy to disappear as the lines on your forehead and between your eyebrows. She had them a few years ago and now she doesn't. I'm really not shaming. I'm sorry if it sounds like I am. (Tuesday 5 August 2025; 01:45)

Random thought (110,304) by Lambi from USA Depends on the material. This will forever be Mariah's greatest acting stint. She's a natural comedian and so phenomenal with mimicking accents. She needs to get back to doing comedic skits. Her more serious roles could need a bit more polishing I agree, but she naturally shines in comedy. Did you see, "Allo, Christopher, you mek beard?" LMAO. (Sunday 3 August 2025; 11:50) this is a reply to message 110,296

Random thought (110,296) by Haiji from United States I was watching videos on YouTube and came across a clip of Mariah in the movie The Butler. So I went on a "Mariah acting" binge with her different roles and was reading some of the comments on how much people were really amazed and feeling her acting. Makes me think why couldn't she get a really good acting coach and really continue a serious acting career. If she ever decides on retiring from music, I'd love to see her in some serious roles. Can you imagine if she was to have a flourishing acting career like her music career? (Sunday 3 August 2025; 03:15)

That time Mariah extended Whitney a sister diva helping hand (110,287) by Lambi from USA Great tidbit, lamb. I've always wondered why Whitney and Mariah never collaborated again. Morgan said in an interview that Mariah was saying, "Poor Whitney, boohoo," when she was publicly tripping on coke and was really struggling. Then Whitney said in an interview, "And when I record, I sing it straight," which was allegedly a jab at Mariah, since she was known for being a perfectionist in the studio. Now that you've shared this, I can confirm that there was really no bad blood. Morgan may have taken Mariah out of context, and she was likely speaking from a place of concern. As for Whitney, she was probably just showing off her vocal prowess and comparing herself to other singers in the industry, in general. However, part of me still believes Mariah might have kept her distance from Whitney, knowing how much drug addiction had damaged Allison and her nephew. It's something she will not be nearby. But it's comforting to know Mariah cared for her and loved her, even if it's just from a distance. (Saturday 2 August 2025; 02:13) this is a reply to message 110,285

That time Mariah extended Whitney a sister diva helping hand (110,285) by John from USA A little change of pace from the goings on in this site these past few days. In 2008, Whitney Houston went to perform for the president of Kazakhstan. Apparently, because of her vocal condition and her reputation in the industry at the time as an unreliable performer, she was unable to secure background singers for the gig. Her management company was also unable to obtain insurance for potential background singers for the gig. When Mariah Carey heard about this, she immediately bring it into action and offered to send three of her very best female background up singers to help Whitney. Whitney did not even have to ask. Mariah not only sent the ladies an across the world to help Whitney but she foot the bill for their insurance, travel, stay and rate. She sent Melanie, Maryanne and Teka. And y'all know vocalist don't play about sharing their background singers, haha. I couldn't find the YouTube video that originally mentioned this, but here's the link of part of that Kazakhstan concert. (Friday 1 August 2025; 23:04)

Stop the nonsense (110,286) by Lambi from USA This is a fan space. People are going to speculate, critique, connect with other lambs, share their opinions, debate their ideas and have fun. That's kind of the point of a message board. (Saturday 2 August 2025; 00:56) this is a reply to message 110,264

Stop the nonsense (110,264) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway No, Mariah will never quit the diva act, no, the Karadashians have not made her unsure about her age, no, a different roll out would not have made the last two single successful, no, I said a no no, like it Frenche, no, in Spanish, no. People here on this board are completely bashing Mariah and make up outrageous reasons for what no. You are criticizing Mariah while you are all living in a Mariah fan forum creating a whole universe of excuses of why her voice is lost, her eyes are dead, who should have collaborated, how Mariah should have taken care of her voice, what affect people surrounding Mariah has, the list can go on and on. Just imagine being Mariah living in this celebrity world and what micro cosmos that will lead to. But here we are, bashing Mariah for being out of touch, too into herself and her yes people, but we are still making a universe ourselves that really doesn't exist outside the MCArchives? Hello? If this board can get so delusional, imagine being Mariah the last 35 years. (Thursday 31 July 2025; 16:15)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,208) by Lambi from USA Please don't race bait. Jamie made a point about Mariah's career during and after her time with Tommy. He referenced "Without You" (from the Tommy era) and "With You I'm Born Again" (post-Tommy), saying Mariah carried herself with grace in both. He clearly said he can appreciate both eras. Nothing about race. He also shared that his nana was more pleased with him being a Mariah fan than a Madonna fan (another white woman) so taking it from a race angle is a bit reaching. If he was truly insinuating racism, he would've made a comparison with a black artist, which he didn't, so let's not twist this into something it's not. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 23:06) this is a reply to message 110,159

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,159) by Terna from Nigeria You get it, and I'm glad you addressed it from this angle, I just didn't want to get into it. Part of the main problem "OG's" have is Mariah's leaning towards black music and succeeding at it too - R&B/Hiphop specifically. That's why they will always have a problem with this "New Mariah", so to speak, because that Tommy version was molded to cater to a white audience. Let's call it as it is. However, that's not the real her, never really was to begin with - check "Vision of Love", that's a singer who's main and only influence is black music, gospel, R&B and hip-hop (check the debut album, isn't she rapping on "Prisoner"). What's mind boggling about these OG fans is that new Mariah (true Mariah) has now been out so to speak, much longer (all caps) than hairbangs Mariah (Music Box and Daydream) and she has pretty much remained the same since, yet they're still hooked on the curated Tommy's vision of her and think that somehow, someday she's gonna go back to pop and that image. Smh. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 05:12)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,183) by Lambi from USA "I would never lip sync" sends me right back to Howard Stern's correct assessment of Mariah Carey lip syncing at the '98 Blockbuster Awards. She was so insulted, she gaslit him and sang a line on the spot: "Baby, can you feel me, imagining I'm looking in your eyes, can you see that? Yeah, don't accuse me of not singing again. Ever." This will forever send me because the clip consistently goes viral and everyone thinks Mariah delivered a smackdown response when in reality, she was gaslighting him the whole time. She was, in fact, lip syncing. LMAO. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 12:46) this is a reply to message 110,139

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,139) by Bill from the UK There was a brief window of time, from the debut through to Unplugged, when Mariah was Mariah. This era is what I would deem the authentic Mariah. It was before she became heavily manicured and manufactured, and before her career was as calculated for success as during Music Box and Daydream. It was before she was married where, in Mariah's words, she married him hoping he would "lighten up" but it made him more insecure and controlling than he was beforehand. It was also before the diva persona took up residence and when she was a sincere and capable singer who said to Lorraine Kelly in 1990 "I would never lip sync", right after the Milli Vanilli scandal. Now we're lucky if we get a line sung live. Of course nobody here wants her to be unhappy, even the OGs. But there was a spark she had in the beginning that dimmed over time. And really, can we honestly say she has been happy post-Tommy? People love to say post-1997 she was free and independent and happy, but that has never been the case. She's had a string of heartbreaks, career setbacks, and an image/creativity crisis in the decades that followed. She seemed momentarily happy and content with Nick and the arrival of the babies, but then that went south pretty quickly. So, all we can do is love her. That can be supporting everything she does, or taking the hard decision to call out things that she perhaps shouldn't be doing. When Mariah leaves us (I pray not for a long, long, long time), her career should be remembered for the incredible string of achievements she trail-blazed, the wonderful songs that captured a generation, a Christmas song that will endure forevermore, and being one of the greatest voices we have ever heard. Not as this caricature diva worried about lighting and splashes, being celebrated as the "Queen of shade" (that's not a good thing), wearing lingerie and lip synching to engineered vocals that cannot be replicated live. But who am I? (Monday 28 July 2025; 18:01)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,176) by Lambi from USA Yes I'm just such a fan I couldn't wait for your response. I'm truly riveted for you. This validation means everything. Stacey the goated OG lamb. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:29) this is a reply to message 110,174

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,174) by Stacey from USA Ironically you are here too responding to my posts, lol. Imagine that. Thank you for calling me the goated lamb. My self worth is now full. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:23)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,172) by Lambi from USA I mean makes perfect sense. You're the goated lamb and you're here all day. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 11:10) this is a reply to message 110,169

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,169) by Stacey from USA Thanks. I appreciate it. My entire self worth hinges on what people think of me here. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:56)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,166) by Lambi from USA How rude of him. Don't worry, we will keep believing you are the goated OG lamb and definitely not a wannabe. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 10:41) this is a reply to message 110,153

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,153) by Stacey from USA You are late to the party. Edward already ratted me out for being a wannabe OG. See message 109,973. "Stacey, what did we say about going off-script? You can't just go around expressing your own opinions like that, people will start thinking you're not just a mindless extension of me. Next time, wait for my email with the approved talking points. I really hate to do this publicly, but I'm afraid this calls for a light reprimand." (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 03:41)

Yall got me reminiscing (110,150) by Lambi from USA 1:57 "The reason is because I'm a secret agent, do you understand?" is so hysterical. I also love the other interview where she threw a whole a*s pillow at him. LMAO. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 02:53) this is a reply to message 110,148

Yall got me reminiscing (110,148) by Haiji from United States I love all versions of Mariah, even during her darkest moments, but my absolute favorite is during her Butterfly era. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 02:38)

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,145) by Lambi from USA Some OG's are actually cool. Sometimes you can just tell they've been around. They're quite knowledgeable and genuinely have such a deep understanding of Mariah. I actually respect their assessments. But there's one here that just kind of says, "I'm such an OG", "we OG fans", and it's peak cringe. Reminds me of that one kid in school who still tries too hard to be cool. It's like a badge of honor they wear that nobody cares about. (Tuesday 29 July 2025; 00:52) this is a reply to message 110,131

The evolution of Mariah Carey (110,131) by Matthew from USA Every time someone on here proclaims themselves an OG, I have to take a deep breath and proceed with caution. Mariah has stated multiple times how controlled and unhappy she was in the first several years of her career. She threw herself into her work and convinced herself this was the price she had to pay for success. Other friends like Brat even wondered "How do you live like this?" It's a little weird to see all the OG's being nostalgic for this era. The OG's say she was a proper lady in this era - classy, dignified, pristine, graceful, and her true authentic self. They mourn her current state, which one is left to assume is the opposite of all those adjectives. I'm not here to invalidate anyone's opinion, but I can provide another perspective that Terna expressed - we both happen to be black. In our culture Mariah is viewed as bougie and fancy. Initially we were like "Who is this white girl singing down like that? Okay Mariah, Get down with your bad self. Do your thing, girl." I don't think one culture's perspective is more important than another's, but I think we should remember to try and view the whole. I do think Mariah would be disheartened that who she is now is causing so much sadness and heartache to the OG's. But I don't think she would go back (and no shade, but I heard the Walter song and I agree with her). I think she would sadly hand y'all the Art of Letting Go record. Go to Mimi on your contacts. Press delete. End your suffering. If it's any consolation, the OG's can always treasure the memory of Tommy controlled Mariah, when she was being her true authentic self. (Monday 28 July 2025; 13:59)

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