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About Lambi from USA:
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Music Box vs Daydream (108,945)
by Lambi from USA
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In Asia, during a grand finale of a singing contest, virtually nobody uses any song from Mariah Carey, Music Box or Merry Christmas. Like when others are singing Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" or Celine's "Power Of Love". The lambily contestants would will their artillery with "Through The Rain", "Can't Take That Away", "Forever", "Never Too Far", "Butterfly" or "My All" and majority of the time, the lambs would take home the grand prize. Probably because Mariah just wrote it with higher difficulty level. Those are her best vocal performances. Once again, the market of singers have spoken, you're objectively wrong. Whitney is also the one that has to level up and match Mariah by the way, not the other way around.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 23:16)
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Music Box vs Daydream (108,933)
by Edward from USA
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Lyrically, I prefer Daydream, but vocally, Music Box reigns supreme in my book. While her voice on Daydream was like pure butter, smooth, nuanced, and mature, on Music Box, it was fuller, more powerful and with a richness difficult to match. Mariah Carey, Music Box, and Merry Christmas are the only albums where Mariah came closest to matching Whitney’s level of resonance and vocal power.
Daydream still featured incredible vocals, strong, expressive, and technically refined, but it leaned more into buttery tone and artistic subtlety rather than sheer vocal force. As an overall body of work, Daydream was more mature and creatively sophisticated than Music Box, but vocally, Music Box was a powerhouse.
As much as I love myself some Music Box, Daydream is the better album in my humble opinion.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:10)
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Say Somethin Solange remix (108,937)
by Lambi from USA
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Exactly I know Solange has done better. Her harmonies were off key, could’ve left it without them, even the drums she used were also on a different key. It is sloppy lamb. Kaytranada is the stand out remix in this release. But which comment are you writing on your book? Real recognize real? Lmfao.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 04:31)
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Say Somethin Solange remix (108,935)
by Bobby A from United States
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In my Arnold voice from Different Strokes, whatcha talkin bout Lambi? Lol. Solange has a sound that millions of R&B fans love. Cranes In The Sky won her a Grammy award. She added the Solange vibe to Say Somethin. I am writing your post in my Mariah book. Lol.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:43)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,934)
by Lambi from USA
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Beyoncé has SirDavis American Whisky. She quite literally made an alcohol brand and sells them. She's so into drinking she made a whole business out of it. Mariah did the same with Black Irish. We can argue Beyoncé is a bigger alcoholic since SirDavis has 44% ABV, while Black Irish has 17%. However, Beyoncé has no vocal decline. If anything she got better. So no it's not alcoholism, your theory is ideologically inconsistent. Mariah simply has a different set of vocal cords, she has nodes and it only gets worse over time. And knowing Mariah's nonstop work ethic, she quickened her decline.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 02:32)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,927)
by Edward from USA
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If you're going to be a "Yass Queen", at least own it with pride. Facts don't care about your feelings, they remain facts, whether you like them or not. And clearly, for some of you, the truth is like kryptonite.
It's well documented that Mariah Carey indulged in heavy drinking, especially around the time leading up to the release of Butterfly. Her voice was never quite the same afterward. She's been drunk in public many times, so it's not like she had a secret. While it may not have been his place to speak on it, even her brother mentioned that she was drinking while on her bipolar meds. Eminem, in his track The Warning, didn't hold back either, outright calling her an alcoholic. Say what you want, but the receipts have been there for a long time.
And as much as I love Mariah, with the state of her voice today, she wouldn't even make it to audition in front of the judges on American Idol. Her voice is completely shot. But of course, in La La Land, she's still "slaying". Reality, however, paints a very different picture.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 17:22)
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The simplest explanation is the best explanation (108,932)
by Lambi from USA
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I actually believe the human singing voice is perfected through Mariah. She can quite literally do everything and more. God was like: "She's just gonna sound out of this world, in every register, and her songwriting will blow everyone out of the water, oh and I'll put her in charge of my holiday." Her voice is a literal gift from the heavens above but it also came with a bit of a curse. Mariah has nodules. Her ability to whistle eventually worsened her nodules. Her voice was the money maker, because she was poor and is deeply afraid of the rug being pulled from under her. She worked her voice to the extremes. Songwriting also happen to make bank in royalties so she went crazy hard on that too. She simply overworked her gifts. End end. These nose jobs and alcoholism theories sound so elementary. No other singer will have a similar decline diagnoses because Mariah is simply built different. A cut above the rest.
(Sunday 1 June 2025; 00:33)
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Say Somethin Solange remix (108,923)
by Lambi from USA
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Nah real recognize real? it was indeed trash. Garage band vibes lmfao.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 13:43)
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Say Somethin Solange remix (108,912)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm sorry but that sounds awful. It sounds basement quality done by 12 year olds experimenting on a remix. If Mariah approved this, then she's completely lost it.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 21:39)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,922)
by Lambi from USA
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I agree "to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping" is so out of touch. I'd like Bill to show us him singing Hero, original key please. I also want the whistles at the end like in Home For The Holidays 2001. The G5's from 95 MSG. Actually wait, let's lower the bar. If you can sound better than NYE 2017 Hero, then I'll be convinced you're not deranged. Prove yourself Bill.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 13:29)
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Nasty, nasty comment (108,916)
by David from USA
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"2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice."
Another fan disparaging and mocking Mariah with one of the most offensive comments I've seen yet (the part in parentheses). I feel sorry for you, buddy - you and all the lambs on here who wile away your hours hurting the woman who profess to love must have very sad, very unhappy to have to act out in this way.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 05:16)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,921)
by Lambi from USA
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Beyoncé literally has a song "Drunk In Love" and has so many turnt up references in "Cuff It" - where is her vocal decline? Actually I'll lay it down for you more directly, if her alcoholism is inherited from Pat, then how is Pat, the queen mother of alcoholism, still able to hit those notes in the 2010 Christmas special? Shouldn't she be in a vocal decline too? Since she is the originator? She was 72 then, way older than Mariah now. But yet she was able to deliver. She truly showed them, darling. You convinced yourself a little too hard with this theory. Far from being air tight.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 13:20)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,908)
by Bill from the UK
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An objective look at Mariah's behaviour leads me to think that yes, alcoholism has been massively responsible for the person we see before us today.
Let's unpack it all: 1. From Butterfly references to alcohol and drinking became more prominent in her lyrics. 2. Alcohol is known as one of the absolute worst things for a singing voice. Mariah's voice being damaged beyond repair (to the point that a number of us unprofessionals on this board can probably sing Hero better than she can and with no lipping) suggests she has indulged too much in this vice. 3. Alcoholism can be inherited and she has stated that her mother suffered from this disease. 4. She has been taking medication for her bipolar since Glitter. Also since then, we have seen her on many, many occasions drinking flamboyantly and recreationally, which you should not do when taking medication. This may cause her somewhat disassociated persona of recent years. 5. She cannot walk on stage without assistance. 6. Her speech can be slurred, rambling, and nonsensical at times. 7. It was most evident during the Nightmare era. I don't think there's a picture available from that time of her not holding a glass of champagne.
As I've said previously I do wish she would come clean about what she is battling. Be it alcoholism, drug dependency, a debilitating disease etc. She is clearly not right. I hate that the Yass Queens just brush it all aside. I've loved Mariah since the moment I saw her. I sometimes think I'm the only person that cares about her in this way.
I don't care about number ones, sales, her being the "queen of shade", or her damn lighting. All I care about is her and her being healthy, and happy. And she is not.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 18:56)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,918)
by Lambi from USA
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Yes that makes perfect sense. She did level up stylistically. She was at the most ease live as well, she ate those G5's for breakfast all throughout the Daydream tour. She was never ever the same live after. If anything, she made the arrangements of her older songs the hardest during that era so to assume that's the start of the decline is laughable. Butterfly is clearly where she lost that big voice status. And in Occam's razor, it's probably because of the stress from the divorce and overworking.
(Saturday 31 May 2025; 09:25)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,905)
by Tevin from USA
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I thought the changes that took place during Daydream era, was more of a stylistic choice rather than any vocal changes or issues. Plus didn't she start lowering the keys of most of her songs that era, in order to be able to hit crazier and more dramatic high notes?
(Friday 30 May 2025; 17:34)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,901)
by Lambi from USA
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Wait what? Daydream era actually sounded so agile. Vision Of Love in Madison Square 95 Garden for reference. Daydream I'd say, was Mariah's most ethereal. Perfect balance of full voice and head voice while also being easily palatable. She mastered singing "straight" but also placed her runs just right (ultimate reference: Open Arms). Butterfly's songs were overdone with runs (first time she was allowed to do so) with the exception of My All and Close My Eyes. Tommy was actually right with making her sing straight. The more plain language, the more the masses eat it up. Something magical also happened with Mariah's tone during Daydream. I used to never put her above Whitney but when Daydream was released, it was clear who had the better voice. Her high belts in Fantasy, One Sweet Day and Always Be My Baby just cannot be duplicated. No one to this day can match the brightness of her resonance. It sounded so beautiful. Perfect mix of Music Box and Butterfly. The full potential of Mariah's voice was realized during Daydream. It was her response to Whitney's Bodyguard success so she also had to step up her songwriting. Underneath The Stars still stands as one of her best works.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 11:06)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,899)
by Bill from the UK
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I'm surprised more people don't notice the difference from Merry Christmas to Daydream vocally. Most sight Butterfly as when he voice began to decline and change, but for me Daydream was the beginning of the end. It was just masked by good songs, good production, and confidence on the stage when performing. Main call-outs for you all to review is that her melisma became disjointed, most noticeable on songs like I Am Free. She breaks it up rather than just singing straight through the melody like she did on all her albums beforehand. Then all the body from her voice went too, best displayed by When I Saw You and Long Ago. She still sounds great but there was a very noticeable shift at this point. As this was before her alcoholism then the nose job would be the most likely cause for the change.
(Friday 30 May 2025; 08:28)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,895)
by Lambi from USA
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Mariah has a scar on her left eyelid (thus why she covers it with bangs) and an uneven tooth on her left side as well. But now that she has veneers it's flawless. I love seeing her just being able to rock a full updo in concerts. She actually genuinely looks amazing. I stumbled across her beautician's instagram and the beauty routine she had for MC was insane.
(Thursday 29 May 2025; 23:08)
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Mariah Carey had 50-11 nose jobs but still insecure about "bad side"? (108,893)
by Bill from the UK
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Mariah came to terms with her (non-existent) bad side years ago and has said as such in her interview. It is pretty clear and obvious she has had a small nose job, and a large breast job, since 1990. The nose job is incredibly subtle but clearly impacted her voice and happened during 1995. It is obvious as it was the first major change in her voice, that became more nasally and brassy on Daydream, and lost its body. That I chalk up to the nose job. The most noticeable breast augmentation was in 1999 when Rainbow launched, but there was talk of a smaller one in 1994, but not so sure about that.
(Thursday 29 May 2025; 14:20)
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Theory (108,874)
by Lambi from USA
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I mean they did try to Britney Spear her. There was a part in her book (page 262) where she talks about Morgan had arranged a "spa" visit but it was actually a hardcore detox and rehab center. They administered her heavy, hard narcotics. Mariah said it made her sluggish, puffy and compliant. I believe this was them inducing mental illness to her. The book "Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" reveals the MK ultra program, where they can give you mental illness via hard drugs. You'll have no choice but to be dependent on it, then you'll just be drugged to oblivion forever. I also vividly remember Mariah saying, "when I first found out about my diagnosis, I refused to believe it" which she was right. She never had mental illness to begin with. She was purposely driven to exhaustion to be easily irate. Pat knew which buttons to press and knew anyone who hasn't slept in a week will understandably snap. They then used her lashing out as an opportunity to misdiagnose, with the goal of inducing mental illness, to control her with drugs her whole life.
I believe the mafia's desired effects have come into full bloom now. She is undoubtedly heavily depended on it; the dosage probably heightened, I would say right after NYE, when she exposed her BPD and admitted seeking "professional" help and probably even more so now, grieving Pat's death. Taking these meds is obviously a part of her pre-show ritual because she is rather sluggish and puffy. Every concert. I will categorize my assessment to be "allegedly" though, just to be marked safe. It's what I think make sense after recognizing what they've done to other pop stars and doing a deep dive in the history of Hollywood.
I wouldn't say anyone is threatening her necessarily but I will say Mariah is aware of the patterns of their financial terrorism. So many have tried to come for her money. Right now Morgan (which is not to be trusted) is suing the crap out of her over her memoir. I think she is always working hard to afford top-notched lawyers, it really does take money to win cases. There's also a chance Morgan may be backed up again by the mafia. He was already in cahoots with the record company during Mariah's first breakdown and considering how many mainstream publications picked up this case. (People, The NY Times, Daily Mail, Today, Fox News, The Sun, Page Six etc.) A PR firm that's verifiably against Mariah is blasting these articles to the masses. I have read the filings and Morgan is relentless for her money. He is very technical and somehow found a way to forward this case into trial. Mariah will actually have swear under oath pretty soon. That and she's probably preparing to have more than enough sufficient funds for her biopic. Production and talent fees are expensive. It's maybe why she's working herself to the bone.
(Tuesday 27 May 2025; 11:21)
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Theory (108,870)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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I came across a video of Mariah and Trey in which they are singing I'll Be There and Mariah forget to lipsynch and seems in a daze. It made me think of Britney Spears and her conservatorship. She was forced to perform at Las Vegas for years against her will. Do you think Mariah could be in the same kind of situation? Maybe she owes lots of money to someone or maybe she's under threat and has no choice. That could explain her strange behavior on stage and interview, why she looks so miserable and the fact she hasn't release anything for years. Could be the only way she found to call for help.
(Monday 26 May 2025; 19:51)
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A deeper look (108,852)
by Lambi from USA
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I'm afraid they are in the beginning stages of finally getting to Mariah. The book "Hollywood Babylon" talks about how the mafia would be in cahoots with a celebrity's family, get them to agitate the star to the point of lashing out, to purposely misdiagnose them with a personality disorder and then drug them against their will. Britney's brain is now melted from all the drugs she's been taking since her public breakdown. Kanye West revealed the messages he got from a "fitness" trainer saying, "I have you institutionalized and take you to lala land, visit with your kids just won't be the same." He exposed that they could quite literally give you mental illness via a cocktail of medicine. He was never the same after. And let's not forget how they "accidentally" overdosed MJ with profopols.
And in retrospect, we all should realize that Stella and Lianna were plants. They checked all the marks of the mafia's tactic. Defame, blackmail, extort and tried to bankrupt MC. Then for the final blow, publicly sabotage Mariah (NYE) - this was all orchestrated to break Mariah's spirit. It's kind of like when paparazzi's are taking 1000 photos a second by the celebrities home. It's to intentionally, intimidate, harass and break the star. I believe their end goal with the NYE disaster was to kill Mariah's touring career, to financially terrorize her. Get her to publicly fall apart. And then expose her BPD. She checkmate though. "You know what, it's different times, it's not 2001 anymore, I'll reveal it myself." Then she went to write a whole memoir to cope. She managed to make something good out of the most savage humiliation they've ever done to any popstar.
But this time around I think they got her, Pat's death is eating Mariah alive. I do not want to speculate because I do not have the facts. But I definitely have questions, they both died on August 24, then just a day later, suddenly every major publication had it blasted all over. It's like someone pressed a button and it's for the whole world to know. It's so not like Mariah to make a "statement" a day after a family's demise, it's way too sensitive. She is too private of a person. I do not see Mariah being willing to talk to People's magazine, or to anyone outside her immediate circle, for that matter, a day after her mother's death. The nature of how quickly their deaths were revealed to the public should raise questions. There is obviously something sinister happening in Hollywood. Stars after stars they do these sort of things to. It's such a pattern that cannot be ignored. Kanye has talked about how his mother was sacrificed. That's another tangent though. My prediction is that they're going to try and make her broke, which by the way is a narrative they already started September last year. It really worried me because they did the same thing with MJ before his demise. It was such bizarre timing too because Mariah just announced a random Christmas tour in August, so I was like okay? Because she actually is broke?
Anyway, please keep supporting MC. Buy everything. The only reason why Mariah is able to survive all their financial terrorism is because she works really hard and because of our never ending support. It takes money to win all these random cases they've been throwing and are going to keep throwing at her. Most importantly, I'd like for every lamb to please say a little prayer for our Mariah, and her family. I believe prayers the only thing that's keeping her safe. I know we all collectively feel it. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but I do actually agree with Morgan's sentiments now, she needs to watch her immediate circle, especially her team of doctors that are giving her all these drugs.
(Saturday 24 May 2025; 10:00)
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Lol (108,792)
by Lambi from USA
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I get your sentiment honestly. Mariah will never be a "regular" singer. She is actually just built different. She has too much creativity bubbling up and will delve in the process until 7 in the morning, making sure every note, chord progression, adlib, vocal layering, instrumentation is right.
She will never be the Christina Aguilera or Celine Dion type that just sings. At the core, she just is a creator. That is God's spirit in her.
I commend her for maximizing her gift in the studio. I've gotten over the lip syncing but I do agree with someone here who said at least make it believable. Mariah could actually be pretty great at lip syncing (ex. Fly Like A Bird Grammys, her and Whitney in the studio recording a rare version of WYB).
Now she seems dead inside. I get everyone's frustrations. I think someone just needs to tell her how obvious it is that she's miming and to get over aging. She really doesn't want to form any more lines, therefore avoid any overly wrinkled singing face. As ridiculous as it seems, I actually believe this is what Mariah is doing. It makes perfect sense knowing she is eternally 12 and will hold on to being 12 at what ever measure.
(Wednesday 21 May 2025; 01:51)
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by Terna from Nigeria
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Sounds like you're giving excuses for her. "She's not really a regular singer." Well then she needs to be a regular singer, if regular means being disciplined, getting training all over again, getting a voice coach that understands her situation (and preferably also a voice therapist in tow) and knows exactly what to do and how to go about it, having some form of a routine mapped out for her and seeing where it goes, because having this attitude and being a half assed singer without knowing the tricks of the trade is what put her in this problem to begin with. It is quite sad to see how much singing ability she has lost, literally everything. And then she keeps touring (with which voice exactly?). D'you know how grueling touring is on a normal voice that doesn't have nodules, talk less of one like hers that does - the reason why every time she toured it affected her voice negatively. For someone who's shows are all about the voice, she sure shouldn't be giving any performances on any stage whatsoever with how shot her voice is currently (call it as it is, we can all hear it). Standing there giving absolutely nothing on stage and thinking the audience would not notice? I am a true fan/Lamb or whatever you wanna call it, and Mariah has been getting on my nerves lately, I scroll right past any posts about her concerts, because I already know what to expect. How much more those who paid money to see her in person. She will soon be booed off that stage, then maybe finally jolt back to reality and seek professional help.
(Tuesday 20 May 2025; 16:56)
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Lol (108,782)
by Lambi from USA
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I want to throw a jab, but that list is actually so funny LMAO. Why is everyone so unserious here? On all seriousness though, you can taper it down to Mariah just having a handicapped voice plus overworking.
She's not really a regular singer, think of her process in masterclass where she hums and leads the band until they get it right, that then doing the production, vocal arrangements, tripling background vocals, staying up until 7 in the morning with the audio engineer. All that, times a million songs.
But yeah I almost resented Mariah for never ever sounding like 96 Tokyo Dome live. But then I think about how her voice is literally heaven sent. It's like you will have the most beautiful voice ever but the trade is, you'll have nodules and it'll be super fragile, but you'll be gifted artistically though. Like everyone will be left in the dust.
To simplify it. A regular singer would be training vocally for 2 hours. Mariah would meet with the band and write chord progressions for hours, humming - overworking her voice. Lead the producers to get things right - with her voice. Then hit up the background singers and arrange some adlibs. Again through her voice. Then keep editing and trying until her handicapped voice is worn out. That would be 10 or more hours.
She did that since 84, that's more than 40 years of just giving it your all. Driven by the fear of being poor again and disappointing her fans and the label.
The inevitable result is her voice being shot. She really did the best with what she got. Everyone needs to be grateful and give her, her well deserved flowers.
(Tuesday 20 May 2025; 10:26)
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Great gowns, beautiful gowns (108,757)
by Lambi from USA
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Yes she looked like she stepped right out of the "I Still Believe" music video with her ponytail. So youthful.
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 11:34)
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Great gowns, beautiful gowns (108,755)
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Looking at all the pictures of Mariah performing in Shanghai, all I can say is that her stylist has step up the game and able to pick dresses that carry the classy image. Even her ponytail makes her look neat, clean and current. Big hair is so yesterday. Great gowns beautiful gowns. That's all.
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 04:28)
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Interview (108,754)
by Lambi from USA
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Mariah literally said in an interview she trained herself not to squint to avoid forming lines. Her whole brand is not acknowledging time and being eternally 12. As age catches up, of course she will go through lengths of avoiding it AKA not having much facial expressions when performing. Why is everyone so behind?
It's the reality of aging plus being heavily sedated. She's barely holding it together. Pat and Alison dying on the same day was not an accident. "Hollywood Babylon" is a great book to go deep into if you want to know what they do stars who try to get out of big corporations.
(Sunday 18 May 2025; 03:27)
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Biopic (108,746)
by Lambi from USA
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Mariah's probably been heavily involved in her biopic. She's posted pictures with Lee Daniels. It's coming out some time soon. With her barely trying to be convincing when she lip syncs - it's quite obvious. She just doesn't want wrinkles to develop faster. At 56, aging has caught up with her. She's doing everything in her power to slow it down. Mariah is all about how she looks. I mean she quite literally didn't care if she was being given a tribute by Moni and Tori, it was bad lighting when Mariah was in the frame. And she will not hesitate to show her dismay. All lambs should accept that this is just who Mariah is. This is just how a beauty queen ages. She's touring and showing up and takes the time to pre-record. Nobody can say she didn't maximize her time. Musicians usually retire from performing by their 60's. We are four years away from that. So just enjoy what ever she can scramble to offer at this point. She literally devoted her whole entire life to music.
(Saturday 17 May 2025; 05:24)
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