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Car (35,288) by Kimora A. from the USA Nick has said before that Mariah does have her license and she does drive herself. We just don't see pictures. (Wednesday 16 May 2012; 20:27)

Siblings (35,287) by RibbonB from the USA People can be siblings and have absolutely nothing but their parents in common. Sadly M's sister is a very tragic sort with a drug problem. It's very telling that her son tweeted on Mother's day that his "mother does not have cancer and she never had it, the lies must stop". The Enquirer feeds off of desperate people for lies and drama. I'm glad M just keeps on living and doing her thing and receiving fab cars so she and dem babies can be driven around in the style she deserves. (Wednesday 16 May 2012; 3:07)

Cars (35,286) by Lashonda from the USA You know I'm always amazed - not in a good way - when Mariah invests in a car. I only say this because she doesn't even drive. She gets driven anywhere she wants to go, so why waste money on all those vehichles? She has even said herself that her license has been expired for like a hundred years. She's fabulous, gotta love that about Mimi. (Wednesday 16 May 2012; 1:04)

Chris (35,285) by Lashonda from the USA Were you referring to Alison as a doozey? That was a little harsh, she's still Mariah's sister. The only difference between her and Mariah is, Alison did not find a way out, Mariah did. HIV does not discriminate, and for all we know, Alison could be a very good person, with flaws yes. However, she's still human. (Wednesday 16 May 2012; 0:59)

Alison (35,284) by Courtney from the USA No, Pat isn't with Alison. The family cut her off more than a decade ago, because of her refusal to go to rehab, amongst other things (Tuesday 15 May 2012; 22:53)

New single (35,283) by Hannah from England Please Mariah, write and release a song like Everything Fades Away for your next single. It would be so refreshing to hear songs like that in the charts. (Tuesday 15 May 2012; 18:30)

Re: Chris M S from the USA (35,282) by Nikki from the USA I'd say I'm excited. Mariah said her voice is in great condition and admitted she was having difficulties singing at that concert's altitude to begin with, so I don't see what the big deal is. Secondly, YouTube isn't exactly the best quality for audio, so if the audio isn't clear, how could you possibly judge it? The best quality I found where you can clearly hear her voice and no background ish I gave to Lee way down below and I think she she sounded great. If that's her "difficulty" singing, I can't wait to hear what's on her album. I don't know where people are getting this concept of her drinking from, I've been collecting photos of her since the mid-90's and she's seen drinking the same then as she is now. The only difference is she's around smokier places between rappers and locations far more frequently than in the past, when she wasn't allowed to do anything. Not to mention MC says her voice kryptonite is a lack of sleep. Do you remember her singing on the Mimi tour? That was her singing with a cold. I went to her show in Florida the following week and she sounded 10x's better. I wish they would've used that performance. If MC says she's good, I for one believe her. (Tuesday 15 May 2012; 6:33)

Yeah, where is Patricia? (35,281) by Chris M S from the United States Well, my guess is that she's with Allison. If the rumors are true, someone needs to care for the girl when she has cancer and HIV (or, AIDS at this stage of the game) at the same time. Talk about a doozey. (Tuesday 15 May 2012; 2:51)

Where's Patricia? (35,280) by Ann from the USA Did Mariah spend any time with her mother on Mother's Day? (Monday 14 May 2012; 23:50)

Blending / Mariah in the club (35,279) by Ryan from the Philippines Edward, I agree with you, I haven't heard of any artist who can do an almost perfect, heavenly layering of voices like Mariah does (atleast Beyonce would come next IMO). Fourth Of July is the best example and also one of my favorite Mariah songs. 1990's ballads were generally plain and simple, and flowery ballads in terms of vocals were too much of that decade. Breakdown also, to be an example, was an underrated song since it was an uptempo ballad to the point where MC was almost rapping the verses. But if we listen to it now, Breakdown and even Babydoll sound fresh like WBT or The One because these are the kind of ballads today. The last song I heard Mariah did layering was with I Wish You Well and it was done greatly. BTW, I don't think Mariah had her bodyguard beside her even on clubbing just to keep fans from coming close. Yes, it's for security purposes only. She's a superstar and she needs that. (Monday 14 May 2012; 11:01)

LaShonda / Mother's Day (35,278) by Kimora A. from the USA It might also be for security reasons. Happy Mother's day to Mariah and all the mothers who visit this site. And everyone treat your mama's right today. (Sunday 13 May 2012; 17:27)

Album production: vocal layering should be brought back (35,277) by Edward from the U.S.A. In the past, many people complained that Mariah's albums were overproduced, because everything was about impeccable. Ever since TEOM she's been working with more live musicians and production with less in terms of making an album that sounded perfect. I miss the different layers of Mariah's vocals on her songs. I've always said nobody can do it like her, it was like having Mariah singing and angels taking care of the background vocals for her, lol. Probably she must've realized that such songs are very difficult to perform live due to all that is going in the background, but I loved it. Examples of these type of productions for me are: "Underneath The Stars", "Butterfly", "Fourth Of July", "Twister", "Music Box", "All In Your Mind", etc. What do you guys think? (Sunday 13 May 2012; 16:51)

Special K (35,276) by Stephen from London, England All is cool at my end, my sista from anotha mista. I love JTHYOA, but definitely see My All as a stronger track. My All made Mariah cool, sexy and lyrically above her contemporaries at that time. I've got a feeling Mariah is going to take it back a bit with this album. Could be wrong, but I live in hope lol. (Sunday 13 May 2012; 2:16)

Clubbing with the lambs (35,275) by Lashonda from the USA I wish Mariah would step out of her shell and party more with the fans who are at the club when she's there. I don't like the fact that security has to be standing there to keep them at bay. However, I respect the fact that she wants and needs her space, if she was too available then it would take away from the mystery of her magic. (Friday 11 May 2012; 21:28)

Mariah Carey (35,274) by Enwar from the USA You guys have inspired me to listen to the debut album as soon as I get in the car to leave for work. I already have Sent From Up Above playing in my head. Thanks and have a good weekend. (Friday 11 May 2012; 14:22)

Mama (35,273) by Nattalie from the USA Oh my gosh Mama, I was about to say the same exact thing. People act like Mariah is a recovering addict that is starting back up on bad habbits again. Lol. (Friday 11 May 2012; 7:45)

Gilbert re: Emotions C&C Dub Dub (35,272) by Bob, IAA from the USA If for whatever reason Edward isn't able to send it, I can send it to you. Drop me an e-mail: mariah4ever.lamb4life@gmx.com. (Friday 11 May 2012; 5:47)

Edward (35,271) by Gilbert from the USA Thank you so much Edward, it's much appreciated. You can email it to gilbertjr83@yahoo.com. Thank you again, I really appreciate it. (Friday 11 May 2012; 4:18)

Mimi (35,270) by Special K from California Hey Carla. Yes, I love Till The End Of Time. Played it at my wedding. I'm with you though about MSG. Stephen, what's up my brotha from another mother? You so crazy, lol. I was actually listening to And You Don't Remember the other day. Man, I was in the seventh grade when the Emotions album came out. I use to play the crap out of that song along with Can't Let Go. Might as well say the whole darn album. Just To Hold Once Again is a good song, but a little too corny for me, lol. I always viewed My All is an updated take on that song. Nice to see another fan give a shout out to Sent From Up Above. Lee, I think Mariah could tackle vocally All I've Ever Wanted. All she got to do is think about Nick while singing, lol. Stacey, what up homie? Lol. Had to clown on that one. FTR, I appreciate all that agree or share my points view as well as those who don't. Peace. (Friday 11 May 2012; 2:24)

Gilbert: I can help you with that (35,269) by Edward from the U.S.A. I love that remix. Just let me know where to send it to you. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 22:21)

Chris (35,268) by Lashonda from the USA Well said, I couldn't have said it better myself. I love how you said that Tommy also didn't want her laughing at the dinner table. People need to chillax (relax) and let Mariah do what she does best. God always blesses her for her hard work, and I'm sure it will be no different with this album. She'll make new fans, more money, be back in the spotlight and more importantly, some of us will have new material to listen to when we want to be inspired to achieve our dreams. That's what Mariah's music has always done for me. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 21:33)

Imperfect (35,267) by Dav from Ireland Loving the song Inperfect, such a shame it didn't make the album. Give me Imperfect any day over Candy Bling or other "meh" songs from that album. Interesting to listen to the lyrics while reading the critisms. I agree over the deminished voice "and God knows that's alright with me". Listen to that song if you don't know it. Great track. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 20:37)

Wow, where do I start? (35,266) by Chris M S from the United States I want to be excited for this new album, but some of you are making me so bleeping nervous, that I don't know what to think. The videos I've seen in Austria aren't great, and I'm not going to pretend that I'm not concerned. Folks are saying it's because of her love of the drink. Yes, no, maybe, I don't know. This woman has been dedicated to her career before and after Tommy. Tommy kept her from drinking, which was great for her voice, but he also didn't want her to laugh at the dinner table. We all work hard in what we do and look for some type of enjoyment at the end of the day. As much as I'd love to grab that flute out of her hand, and tell her she's ruining her voice, I just can't and won't. Yes, I want a damn good performance from her, but I'd feel like I'm chaining her to her career. She always said she sleeps with tons of humidifiers in her room. Do you think she's still doing this? I doubt it. Yeah, I'm sure Nick really loves 100 humidifiers going at night while he's trying to sleep. Give me a break, he's sick himself. What I'm trying to say is that we don't really know this woman, her life, her family, or her friends. We don't know her. We don't know what the circumstances on anything are. Life changes, life happens, nothing, and no one can stay the same forever and ever amen. Believe me, I'm not always happy about every career move she makes. I have been left furious at times. But the only thing I know, is that I'll always love and respect this woman no matter what. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 20:19)

Mariah is the voice for the world (35,265) by Edward from the U.S.A. As many of us have stated, Mariah is known for her voice and the amazing things she can do with it. Some singers have managed to stay in the music business because they developed in different areas of entertainment. We all know that when you're dancing around, you most likely won't be singing live, but that's understandable, that's why Madonna, Janet and many others are still around, for the entertainment they bring through their shows. In Mariah's case, her voice is the show, because she was introduced to the world as the girl with the golden voice, and a term they used in most press referring to her a long time a go, the songbird (I loved it). Mariah in the music business is her voice as Whitney was, no matter how many songs she's written or produced. Many people walked out of Whitney's last tour because they didn't get the performance they deserved from the Whitney they knew. Mariah's not a dancer and her concerts are not big productions, so people go there not for her body, trend, or dance moves, but to hear the voice. Mariah's voice is the way fans get brain-high, lol, so consistency is important for some of us. As for old Mariah's gems: "Vanishing", "The Wind", "Just to Hold You Once Again", "All I've Ever Wanted", "Melt Away", "Slipping Away", "Do You Think Of Me", "When I Saw You", "Looking In", "Outside". (Thursday 10 May 2012; 19:11)

Emotions (35,264) by Gilbert from the USA Hi, I'm just going to take a shot at this and just see what happens. Does anyone have an mp3 format file of the Emotions (C&C Dub-Dub Mix)? I have seen it online, and to be honest, it's a ridiculous amount of money to pay for a single for just a song I'd like to have. If someone does have a good quality of the song, could you help me out? I just want to add it to my iPod to work out to in the morning. If not, thanks, it was worth a shot. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 18:40)

Moriah (35,263) by Mama from Australia Please direct me to the part of my post where I said she didn't drink? Oh you can't? Because I didn't say she doesn't drink, but people are on here implying she has a drinking problem, as if they know how much alcohol she consumes. Clearly they arent with her 24 hours a day, so they don't know anything, so why start rumors? (Thursday 10 May 2012; 12:25)

Golden oldies (35,262) by Anthony from England Sounds weird to say, but yeah some of Mariah's earliest work is pretty old by now, especially by today's standards. One of my favourites ever is Everything Fades Away. It's a deliciously haunting song and as my mother had the Music Box album, I always remember hearing it every Saturday as she got ready for work. I was about 5 or 6 at the time. Talk about "for the nostalgia". Another of my favs is Sent From Up Above, I don't know why but that song has always struck a chord with me. Mariah is the only artist I listen to everyday. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 9:30)

Mariah and the unrealistic voice (35,261) by Nattalie from the USA I think the reason why we get so nervous about Mariah performing live and during is because we are so used to her sounding perfect. Like back in the day her voice was so perfect that I could have sworn it was a robot singing. Robot is not really the best anaolgy, but the point is that machines are usually perfect and are always correct, no matter what. And that's how I saw Mariah back then. Her voice was not realisticly possible. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 9:28)

Special K and co-signers (35,260) by RadChad from the U.S. We all can agree that we want Mariah to sound amazing everytime she opens her mouth. That's wasn't my issue. I just feel that it's senseless to compare her to artist like Beyonce and Kelly Clarkson. One, because she's been around longer, has put out more albums, has a more difficult catalogue of songs to sing, and not to mention her own unique set of vocal chords with their unique issues. Btw, for the first seven years of her career her voice was very consistent. Obviously something changed, we can all speculated (I strongly believe nodules, insomia, and champange sipping have contributed), but we don't know exactly what happen to her voice. Not sure how long some of you have been fans, but comparing her to Beyonce, Rihanna etc., while not acknowledging the days when she was consistingly singing much more difficult songs, makes you sound like post 90s fans that should go back and do their research. While I can agree to not wanting to cross my fingers when she performs, I will always maintain a certain level of respect for her as a live singer, studio artist, song writer etc. because of what she has already done. Dare I say she has already proven herself in everyway way as far as I'm concerned. Once again, I'm all for being honest and keeping real or whatever you all want to call it, but I just find some of you guys' tone to be questionable. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 3:07)

MC vocals live (35,259) by Divo from the USA I co-sign on everything everybody is saying about the vocals. Mariah is known for her voice. Yes, she is a fabulous song writer, but the songs wouldn't be the same without that golden voice. I don't expect her voice to sound like it did back in the "Vision of Love" days, but I do expect honest and consistent vocal performances. The day I go to a paid Mimi concert and she is lip syncing for sure is the day I won't go to her concerts anymore. I remember back in the day it used to be all about people who couldn't sing and what they were going to do in 20 years when they couldn't shake their a$$e$ eveywhere (I'm talking about Madonna and Cher). Here they are 20 years later having huge ticket sales knowingly lip syncing, but people don't care because they are entertained. If Mariah is know killing me with the vocals, I just can't be entertained. Look at Patti Labelle, Gladys, all of them still blowing after a long time. Granted, they don't have the special voice that MC does, so I am empathetic. Mimi take care of that voice. Also, I believe Whitney would've been in top form, had it not been for drugs, she was still going strong up until 2003 or so. I love Mariah, and don't think I am less of a fan because I don't like phoned-in vocals. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 2:02)

Wow / Special K / Stephen (35,258) by Stacey from the USA So now I read, if I don't care for something MC does, I'm less of a fan? The audacity of some people here astounds me. Ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with having an honest discussion about Mariah. As long as people keep it real, it's all good with me. Special K, preach girl, preach. Hope you are doing well. Stephen, here is your amen for JTHYOA. I put on some old mix CDs of MC's songs the past few days and that song was on it. I also had a great time blasting TTEOT too. (Thursday 10 May 2012; 0:42)

Special K and John (35,257) by JB_Fly from the USA I have to agree on Special K on this one. I am still a die hard fan, but when it comes to Mariah performing "live", I cringe in the very beginning hoping that she will sound good. I put live in quotation marks because we all know that sometimes Mariah lips some of her songs. But after a few notes here and there and once I hear her sing good, I get relaxed and enjoy the moment. John, I have to respond to your post about Celine Dion. There have been many reports that Celine is also guilty of lip syncing on her Caesar Palace concerts. So you can't compare Mariah's voice to Celine. Both are incredible artists. Both women have set the bar high when in comes to vocal prowess but people's taste in music and the music industry changes every time. Power ballads and soaring notes are a thing of a past. Yes, Adele is popular, but her vocals are not as intricate compared to Mariah. That is why Mariah is still around, because she's able to blend in and versatile when it comes to changes. Just my two cents. Smile. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 23:50)

Re: Special K from California (35,256) by Carla from Portugal I mentioned those songs, I could mention many more, but I didn't even think about what songs to consider classics because for me, most of Mimi's songs are different from all the rest out there. But yes, you're right, Vanishing is one of my all time favourites. I listen to the SNL version all the time. What abaout Till The End Of Time? Do you like that one? And So Blessed or The Wind? I think The Wind is one of her best efforts. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 22:15)

Special K (35,255) by Stephen from London, England You have been on top form girl. Talk about straight talking some of these people into the middle of next week. I'm not even going to discuss whether you were being disrespectful to Mariah by citing other artists, because it's ridiculous. Consistency is the point, not ability. However, as we have seen over the years, people on this board have a selective reading ability. Regarding old school tunes. Can I get an amen for Just To Hold You Once Again, And You Don't Remember and All Alone In Love. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 22:06)

Mariah's live vocals (35,254) by John from the USA I agree with Lee and Special K. I will love Mariah forever and always buy her albums (and singles to help them on the charts) on day one. But I too get extremely nervous now when she's going to perform live. Her voice is (in large part) what has kept/keeps her relevant and sets her apart from the likes of Britney, Rihanna, J.Lo, etc. If Celine Dion has been able to preserve her voice this well throughout the years, maybe Mariah needs to work a little harder. If that means shorter tours or perhaps more spaced out promo, then so be it. If I were her and wanted to remain relevant as long as possible, I'd be protecting my main instrument - my voice. Anyway, I am optimistic about the new album and era. I have a feeling (or, I'm hoping) that being a mother may have "matured" her (not calling her immature, in her own words, she's always been "eternally 12"), and hoping her lyrics and videos will reflect that. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 21:08)

Mariah's live performances (35,253) by Lee from the UK I agree with Special K. Everytime Mariah performs live, I get nervous. Not just before she starts singing, but even during her singing. Will she hit this note? Will she sound scratchy? Will this part be lipped? Can she hold this note? Don't get me wrong, live Mariah is my favourite Mariah. I wouldn't want her to completely lip sync a performance. I always wonder what other people think, those who are not fans. Mariah has been celebrated as "The Voice" and when she gives a less than stella performance, it gives the haters something to talk about. There are plenty of videos on YouTube, created by haters, which chronicle her "vocal deterioration" as they see it. I guess I am holding on to the hope that Mariah still has an "All I Ever Wanted" left in her (and can perform it live). (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 19:15)

RibbonB, Mama (35,252) by Marioh from the U.S.A. So Mariah doesn't drink? Must I remind you about Mariah's acceptance speech for her Precious role where she was drunk as skunk? If you haven't, YouTube it. To say that Mariah doesn't drink is like saying that Whitney wasn't on drugs. I know it's a huge difference, since Mariah hasn't ever being labeled as an alcoholic, and I don't believe that she is one, but she definitely drinks and parties, and it's been caught on camera more than once. She can drink as much as she wants, but you know what, when I pay my money for her music or for a concert ticket, I expect quality, that's all. The nodule for me are part of the problem, but when she was pregnant, did the nodules hid or disappeared? No they didn't. She, as a pregnant woman, did all the right things a good mother does to make sure her babies came out fine, and one of the things she didn't do as stated by herself was drinking. And magically her voice showed an improvement in terms of quality we had all been yearning for. Just saying. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 18:23)

Radchad (35,251) by Special K from California You didn't directly address me, but since you basically quoted or cited what I stated in my post to make your point, then I will directly respond to you. First of all, when I stated "supposed (meant to say suppose) to be one the greatest singers of our time", my point was that when it comes to Mariah, we shouldn't have to cross our fingers and pray when it is time for her to perform because she (Mariah) is one of the greats. As for comparing artists to other artists, well ah, we tend to do that alot on this board but anyways, that wasn't my intention either. All I'm saying is that when Kelly Clarkson or Beyonce get ready to perform, I don't get all nervous for them or cross my fingers hoping that they will do good because quite frankly, those woman give good solid vocal performances on a consistent basis, unlike Mariah. Key word, consistent. If you consider that bashing, well then all I can say is that I respectfully disagree with you. I don't consider what I stated as bashing or disrespectful in anyway. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 15:47)

Gege and Mama (35,250) by RibbonB from the USA That's absolutely right. There also tends to be a problem when people prejudge and bully another to get their own desired end, it doesn't work and it's disrespecful. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 14:33)

Drinking (35,249) by Mama from Australia Seriously, how do any of you know how much Mariah drinks? Some of you are making out she's some sort of alcoholic. Get real. None of us know how much she does or doesn't drink, so stop perpetuating rumors. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 11:02)

Carla from Portugal (35,248) by Special K from California I was feeling your post about new fans, but then girlfriend you sited MSG, Whenever You Call, and Bliss. Sorry my fellow old school fan, but I was thinking, "Take it back a little further Carla, take it back a little further down memory lane." Lol. Alot of new fans aren't aware of the classics like Sent From Up Above, Love Takes Time, Till The End Time, Can't Let Go, All I've Ever Wanted, and oh my goodness Vanishing. When was the last time a fan gave a shout out to Vanishing on this board? Talk about a true classic Mariah Carey song. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 4:22)

RadChad / alcohol / Austria (35,247) by Gege from the USA I agree. I'm not a new Mariah fan, but I'm rather new to posting on this board. I too have no problem with people giving constructive criticism, and I don't believe that they have to like everything Mariah does or think she's perfect. I do however think that a level of respect needs to be maintained. I think that's the major problem I see when it comes to a lot of Mariah fans, message boards, twitter, there's a lot of rampant disrespect trying to disguise itself as constructive criticism. I think you can say how you feel in a respectful manner. People also need to stop with the alcohol posts, because none of live with this woman to say why her voice sounds like anything. Just because people drink or like to drink and/or have alcohol in their house, doesn't correlate into them consuming alcohol all day, everyday, or both. As much as I was excited for M to sing, I think that was a bad move to sing in Austria because it's very hard to breathe at higher altitudes when you're not used to it, let alone sing because it's harder for oxygen to pass through the lungs. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 2:29)

Bsquared from Boston (35,246) by Gilbert from USA I had seen your post some time ago about the giant camel toe, and so today I for some reason decided to look at the photos and damn you weren't kidding, that thing was big. S*** if I see a friend with a booger, I tell them, how could her entourage not tell her anything about it. I did have a laugh though, because you weren't kidding. (Wednesday 9 May 2012; 0:40)

Criticism vs bashing (35,245) by RadChad from the U.S. I feel where Lashonda was coming from and to add to that I do believe that we're all on different levels as fans. Some fans are her fans as long as eveything is perfect, and others are die hards that stick by her no matter what. As a "ride or die" fan, though I have noticed MC's flaws, I would never get on this board and publicly bash her. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with fans expressing disappointment, and giving contructive criticism, but you it starts to look like a pack of Eminem fans high jacked the message board and went ham, then somebody needs to reel things back in. I too have prayed and crossed my fingers during MC performances in the past, and have prayed for the day that she stops drinking and regain every ounce of glory she still has in her. However I as person who has tremendous respect for her as an artist, a person who has moved me with their voice and music like no other, I will always have a certain level of respect for her, would never give up on her or make statement like "she supposed to be the greatest" and compare her to other female artist when referring to a less than stellar performance. I just feel like someone who has the same level of regard for her as I do, would not take it that far. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 23:05)

New and old fans, aren't we here for the same reason? (35,244) by Carla from Portugal Well, I am also a fan of Mimi since Vision Of Love. I don't consider myself better then any new fan, but it really annoys me when new fans think they know it all when all they know are three songs: Hero, Without You and We Belong Together. Nothing wrong in knowing these three songs, but Mimi is way more then that: My Saving Grace, Bliss, Whenever You call, etc. I'm not a fan that participates in projects, but I am a hard core fan in my belief that, no matter who comes, Mimi is the top notch. We are here on this site to discuss points of views and respect each other. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 23:04)

Lashonda / Nattalie / TJ (35,243) by Stacey from the USA Wow, it's been a long time since I've been called a homie, lol. You are more than entitled to ask a question. I just thought the whole premise of one person being more or less of a fan depending on when they started following Mariah is a bit ridiculous. Don't you think? Unless I read the post wrong, that seemed to be the implication with your post. Anyway, thank you again for the much needed laugh. My post was never serious in nature at all. It's all good. Nattalie, totally agree with you. For me, it's all about any fan appreciating an album and giving MC her props. TJ, well said post too. I've never connected to the whole "lamb" title too. But, it's cool if others like it. It's cool if that's what MC calls her fans. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 21:44)

Mariah's voice and vocal quality (35,242) by Terna from Nigeria Ok. I'll give my two cents on this topic in reply to 35206. Mariah's voice issues stems from all the champagne she's always drinking. The first thing any vocal coach would tell you is to be well hydrated, meaning drink lots of water in order to sound good and sing well. The problem with Mimi is she seems to think humidifiers can replace the good old "drink lots of water" system so many singers use. But it doesn't work that way, you get hydrated from the inside out, not the other way round. Humidifiers are just a long term presevation means, especially when the weather's dry. So in answer to your question Emma, if she can cut down the champagne and replace with water (hard as I know it would be, lol) her voice issues would be history. Look how strong her voice quality sounded on MCIIY. The dryness was no where to be found. The last I heard her sound that way was on Music Box. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 19:20)

If I could pick the producers and co-writers for new album (35,241) by Tobby from Canada It would be simple. Darkchild, JD/BMC, Raphael Saadiq, Jeff Bhasker, Randy Jackson/Big Jim. I think this would rival Butterfly or TEOM anyday. But only if she took her time with each one (like she's doing with JD, to get the best of the best material out of them all). PS. Rahael Saadiq produced and co-wrote the song for Mary J from Precious. So I'm sure Mariah heard it once or twice. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 16:48)

Stacey (35,240) by Lashonda from the USA Damn homie, I was just asking a question. Am I not allowed to do that? I just wanted to know who has been here since day one. It doesn't make me more qualified to answer a question. However, the ones that have been here since day one have clearly seen her through every transition period. Surely you can understand that. But I think my question was answered. Many of you have not seen her through every stage. Having said that, you have a blessed day. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 15:13)

Fan or lamb, goat, hater or traitor (35,239) by TJ from Norway I have been a fan since the summer of 1990, and been a visitor of this site since the beginning. I have been called a hater in earlier feuds by fans in the late 90's, but they are not showing up anymore. I have always been a fan and never seen myself as a "lamb", because I find that a little weird. We should stop calling each other names. Everyone in here is clearly passionated by Mariah. Some find everything she does to be perfect, others look for perfection. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 7:48)

Stacey (35,238) by Nattalie from the USA Exactly. Lol it's crazy that someone would have to go by such random rules. I was just born in '89, so I guess I really don't have a say. Anyways girl, well said. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 3:44)

Old fans / new fans (35,237) by Geezy from the USA, by way of NYC Personally it should not matter if you are fan since the beginning or if you became a fan during a certain era, we all have something in common: our love and respect for Mariah the singer/songwriter and artist. So none of us has the right to call out another fan on their loyalty and respect for Mrs. Carey-Cannon. I can say I've been a fan since VOL and still ride for Mariah today as I did then, but I couldn't help but feel disappointed by the performances in Austria .I know that Mariah still has the goods and the MCIIU era proved that, now it's all about continuing on the path, not only for the fans, but to naysayers who say she can't deliver anymore. Mariah is one of few that we have left from her era that can still get that same buzz and she should be honored and do all she can to keep her legacy alive as the brilliant artist that she is. Much love and respect to my entire Archives family. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 0:37)

Mariah's voice (35,236) by Billy from London Mariah has written and sang some amazing songs throughout the years. You can't expect her to sing all of them perfect all the time and all in one night, right after one another. When her songs are so hard to sing, no other artist has a voice like hers. When someone covers just one of her songs, they know how hard it is to try and do it justice. People need to stop moaning and just be greatful we get to hear her sing, because there is no one out there that we know off who is such an phenomenal singer as our amazing, beautiful Mariah Carey. (Tuesday 8 May 2012; 0:32)

Everyone / Special K (35,235) by Stacey from the USA So according to Lashonda, she's more qualified to voice an opinion of Mariah since she's been a fan since day one. So, apparently I'm not as qualified since I've only been a fan since Music Box. Oh dear, where to begin, lol. I guess I'll simply say thank you for the much needed laugh today and move on. It doesn't matter how long someone has been a fan. What matters is creating an environment where everyone can voice an opinion without all the immaturity that some bring to this place. That's what I will always stand up for. Special K, loved, loved, loved your post (35,225) on M's voice. It was such an on-point post I won't add anything to it. Well said. (Monday 7 May 2012; 23:57)

Hopes and expectations (35,234) by Geraldine from Switzerland For her next album, I don't expect big belting ballads, because it's maybe not her thing anymore and I'm ok with it. But I would love to hear melisima again, she's just so good at it and it's like heaven for me. When she goes up and down so melodically. She has so many textures in her voice and she doesn't need much to reach the top in my opinion, but just do what she's the best at and use her talent and creativity. There's a lot she can still do with her voice and I'm sure she could explore new things with it and innovate a little bit without necessarily belting. Let's hope that her coming album will be the one of a new start. I'd love to see a mature and classy Mariah who would finally get the recognition and credibility she deserves. (Monday 7 May 2012; 23:16)

To Lashonda (35,233) by Zachary from Croatia I don't appreciate your comment regarding Austria. USA is not the whole world, you know? There are people living elsewhere. Just saying. (Monday 7 May 2012; 22:46)

Lead the way (35,232) by Lashonda from the USA I've seen a post on here that said Mariah's voice went downhill after Tommy. That comment could not be further from the truth. Lead The Way imo is one of her best songs in terms of how long and steady she can belt out a note and sound strong doing it. She's even said herself that some of her best vocals were on the Glitter album. I agree, not just because I'm a lamb. The proof is in the pudding, go listen to the song. (Monday 7 May 2012; 22:34)

Are you a certified lamb? (35,231) by Lashonda from the USA Just curious, how many of you can actually say you have been a fan since the summer of 1990? I know that with each new album Mariah aquires more fans, but honestly, how many of us on here have been a fan since day one? I've been a fan the whole 22 years, I didn't just hop on the bandwagon when a particular album was released. There's nothing wrong with it if you didn't become a fan until Daydream or Butterfly or Emancipation, but if you have not been a fan since day one and have not done research on her career, please don't speak of things of which you have no knowledge of. Back to my question, how many people on here have been ride or die for Mariah since 1990? That would probably make most of you in your 30's. I was ten years old when she made her debut. (Monday 7 May 2012; 22:21)

All is not lost with Mariah's voice (35,230) by John from the USA I have been a fan of Mariah since Honey came out, and have never had a problem calling it like it is with her. For instance, when Charmbracelet came out, I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't in the camp that was wishing for more powerful vocals (though that album does have some gems, such as I Only Wanted and BOTH). I'm not sure what it is that's made her live performances (on average) slightly sub-par after 1999/2000. Maybe it is due to a lack of confidence since after the Glitter debacle. But I have to say I think she still has it in her to surprise us (in a good way). I saw her on the Charmbracelet and TEOM tours. Her vocal performances were almost perfect both times I saw her. I couldn't believe she sang Fantasy totally live during the TEOM tour. Maybe when she's performing for her fans, she's more confident? And as we saw with her MCIIY performances, she still has it in her. I think Mariah is very competitive, and despite her enormous successes over the years, still feel she has to prove herself. I also think she's smarter than we give her credit for, and as someone else alluded to, maybe she's saving her voice for the upcoming (hopefully) media blitz for her latest album. Her vocals in Austria weren't great, I will say. But for now, I am giving her the benefit of the doubt. Like with all great singers, she is going to have off days. She's human. (Monday 7 May 2012; 21:33)

Special K (35,229) by Edward from the U.S.A. Special K, you couldn't have said better, it's not singing like in the 90's, it's about being consistent. I do compare a singer to a restaurant: You cook and serve good meals, then you have good reviews and more clients come in based on that. A singer or vocalist sings well, if he/she is consistent, then you get good reviews and more fans. Patti Labelle is 67 years old, Barbra Streisand is 70 years old, but when I see these older ladies sing, they may not sound like in their hay days, but they can still pull hell of a performance because they are still consistent. When Mariah was pregnant, her voice definitely improved and you can witness that when she's singing "One Child" live at the White House. Even when she had a tough pregnancy, the lady was singing really good, so the theory about blaming the nodules doesn't quite do it for me. We are loyal to Mariah and she owes quality music to us. I do believe that the fair weather fans have gotten off the boat a long time ago. We, the ones that still care, are still here. Peace. (Monday 7 May 2012; 20:15)

Austria concert (35,228) by Geezy from the USA, by way of NYC I was happy that Mimi attempted some oldies but goodies, but the voice and performance overall was lacking for me. But my love for Mimi remains the same. I just want her to regain her confidence on stage and give us the fans what we have grown to love from Mimi: a good show where she is in good voice. Btw, I can't wait to hear Mesmerized and for this new era to begin. (Monday 7 May 2012; 18:36)

The voice has not left (35,227) by Lashonda from the USA Mariah is not stupid in terms of straining her voice. That's why she may of sounded a little dissapointing in Austria. She's very slick, this is what she is doing. She's getting ready to come out with a new album. Which means when it comes out, she's gonna be all over the place singing, she's saving her voice for that. Right now, she is making appearances to let the public know shes back on her ish, but she's not gonna strain her vocals right now. For what? Austria? Who lives in Austria? Don't let Mariah fool you, homegirl still has it. (Monday 7 May 2012; 17:39)

I agree with you Hannah (35,226) by HarryB from the USA Let me use your post and say a lot of MC fans are living in the past. MC has changed, so asking for her to create the same music she did in the past is delusional. That is why I keep on insisting on this forum that MC is not just the voice. She is more than that. She's one of the greatest songwriters of our time, and she in my opinion is a melodic genius. She creates songs. She's not just a voice. Yeah sure, some primarily love her for that. We can even say that's what makes her famous. But she's moving into another direction where she now create new things more than just belt every song. Her last album is indication of this new direction, which is more melodic and lyrical songs, rather than stacking high notes all the time. She is neither better nor worse than before. She's just different. Just like every human being she changes. And if you are not open to that, then maybe you shouldn't be an MC fan anymore, because you're are pressuring MC to be what is no longer is. (Monday 7 May 2012; 16:01)

Get it right / Edward (35,225) by Special K from California Most, if not all of Mariah's fans, know and acknowledge that her voice has changed and don't expect her to sound like she did pre-1998. That's a given, however, with that said, we as fans do expect a good solid vocal performance that makes you feel good and proud to be a fan. Not 100% of the time, singers are only human, but my goodness can we say consistency? I'm sorry, but it sucks to see the likes of a Kelly Clarkson or a Beyonce give good live vocal performances time and time again, but when it comes to Mariah, you have to cross your fingers and pray. It shouldn't be that way folks, it shouldn't be. Not for an artist who is supposed to be one of the greatest vocalists of our time. When Mariah was preggers, her voice was in tip top shape. She sounded great. So, I can't help but think there are things she is doing or not doing health wise that effects her voice. Just saying. Edward, I feel you. (Monday 7 May 2012; 15:25)

Mariah's new album (35,224) by Mangrey from London, UK I am bit nervous for Mariah's new material. The problem is, she doesn't seem to want to leave hip hip and evolve. Working with Jermain Dupri will just result in more "We belong together" sequels. Please Mariah, seek for a fresher sound with just piano ballads and live instruments. The album should have both ballads and uptempo tracks and please no mid tempo style tracks like the ones that made up the whole of MOAIA. Your voice is amazing and you don't get half the recognition you deserve. It would be trully amazing if you produce the album of the year. (Monday 7 May 2012; 13:59)

Bsquared (35,223) by Ray from Malaysia Right on point. (Monday 7 May 2012; 10:52)

Edward / Bob (35,222) by Ray from Malaysia Edward, you are so right, and what we went through is almost similar. I've been following her since her debut album and I was twelve back then, when she was relatively unknown in my country. My family wasn't rich, so I had to save every cent just to buy her albums. Later when I earned a scholarship in school, I started to collect her singles, every one of them, and by then, the older ones have become very expensive. When she came to Malaysia for her Charmbracelet tour, I emptied my wallet just so I could get the best seat to watch her. And boy, I got the teasing from everyone around me for being a dude who loves Mariah. I stuck with her nonetheless, for 22 years now. And tell me about defending her. I did a whole lot of that too. I'm still proud of younger fans coming in, but more matured fans like Edward and I might have different points of view. Fans are a huge part in her success, therefore she should listen to what we have to say too, not just the good things, but also the comments and criticism. That's how you grow and become better. One more thing. Bob, how could you say such things as letting Mariah drink and smoke blunt if she wants to, because she earned it? Seriously? You are an enabler. Please don't tell me if one day you hear that Mariah wants to jump off a cliff, you will allow her because she earns it. God forbid. (Monday 7 May 2012; 10:09)

Edward from the USA (35,221) by Gilbert from the USA That's right. High five. (Monday 7 May 2012; 7:20)

Edward (35,220) by Bob, IAA from the USA First off Edward, I never singled you or anyone else out in my post, yet it seems as if you believe I have. Please re-read it. Second, you are entitled to your opinion, just as I am. I respect that. Third, you do have a right to expect a certain level of quality when spending money on what you hope is a quality product based upon your past experience with said product. That's understandable. My post has to do with the negative critism of Mariah's voice and lifestyle by her fans. This girl has given all of us the best years of her life and God willing, she will continue to do so for many more years to come. Think about what she means to you. Think about how she helped you get through bad times, how she celebrated the good times with you. Yes, I think as fans we may have a right to "critique" when we aren't happy (afterall, we pay her salary), but I feel we don't have a right to critize simply because none of us have ever walked in Mariah's stillettos and none of us ever will. I know Mariah would be the first to ask you your opinion on a performance, and she would expect a straight answer. How that answer is delivered is the difference between critiquing and critizing. As far as being a lamb, I was also there since day one. In fact, before day one if you want to be technical. I know you didn't specifically direct that comment about how long people have been fans at me, but since it seemed you shot it in my general direction, I felt the need to reply. Enjoy the day fellow lambs. (Monday 7 May 2012; 7:17)

Mariah of the 90s (35,219) by Alain from the Philippines I watched this weekend Mariah's old concert videos, especially the Music Box concert, and she sang effortlessly there with all the high notes of her songs. Then I started to realize the people loved this Mariah, singing all powerful ballads and pop with a flavor of RnB uptempo songs. If Butterfly were released, then commercially I believe it could have been her 13th #1 single in the US. For me it remains as one of her most beautiful songs ever written. Then I watched the music video of Breakdown, this was a fresh sound Mariah then and again, if Sony have released it commercially, it could have been Mariah's 14th #1 single. Having said all these, I am hoping that her next album will return to this era with a touch of today's music, songs that sounds like then but still relevant today to all ages. Mariah has all the audience (fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, teenagers, lovers, etc.) in the mentioned concert. (Monday 7 May 2012; 4:55)

Here we go again... (35,218) by Stacey from the USA Seriously, some of you need to grow up and stop with the name calling. You know who you are. Just because someone voices an opinion does not give you the right to call them names or question their fan status. Honestly, stop it. It's rather annoying to the rest of us adults who can handle an honest discussion with people we disagree with. Grow up. (Monday 7 May 2012; 4:26)

Edward / Bob / RadChad (35,217) by Bsquared from Boston I have to agree with you Edward. I don't think you were attacking Mariah, you were just being honest. If it's so obvious that her voice has changed, then why can't we discuss it? Why is wrong to expect her to sound good when she is in concert? She has sounded rough more than once, not just on top of the mountain. Are we as fans ok with her lipping so often? I used to be proud and enjoy her live performances, now Im just nervous for her. I think that Mariah has 2 types of lambs: the ones that are honest and the ones that just praise and defend everything she does. I think if she had more people that told her what they really thought vs what they think she wants to hear, things would be a lot different for her. I mean, she had 35 people with her in Austria and not one of them mentions the giant camel toe? (Monday 7 May 2012; 2:41)

Next album (35,216) by Hannah from London Mariah needs to make a fresh new just vocal album using her current vocal state what she can sing live easy without putting strain on herself. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 20:44)

Ray/Bob: fair weather fan... really? (35,215) by Edward from the U.S.A. Bobby, I've been a fan for 20 years, how does that make me a "fair weather" fan? I've been coming to this site for as long as it's been up. I was part of each of her number ones. Even when I was a kid, I forced my mom to get me the singles, and I wasn't even living in the States at that time, so it was difficult. I was there when she got the nervous breakdown, and on 9/11, when everybody was scared to go out, I was there buying Glitter, an album I love and hated by most. So yes, I am entitled to my damned opinion. If Mariah profits from a concert, why shouldn't I demand a good one? Oh, that makes me a fair weather fan. If I pay for a concert, I don't care if you slept well, had 20 babies to take care of or festivities previous to that, I want a good performance, because at the end of the day, she'll take my good money. I never got a discount because I didn't have all the money for a ticket to one of her concerts. Most of you have been fans for how long? Two, three, or maybe 6 years, and you're telling me I'm a "fair weather" fan? Give me big f* break. I've defended this woman against my family and friends, because of the love I have for her music. Ray, I agree that criticism balances things out. Mariah only has yes people/lambs telling her that she sounds phenomenal when it's the opposite. If enough fans complained, I know she would do something about it. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 19:22)

BEP (35,214) by RibbonB from the USA I said great artists, not political leaders like Mandela. Mariah is a great artist like, Aretha, Chaka Khan, Stevie Wonder. IMO. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 16:30)

RibbonB (35,213) by BEP from Yumi Well, I wonder if the lambs without the goats are still enough to help her climb the top of the charts. If in your opinon artists like Mariah Carey are one of the "greats", beside people like Mandela, well you're really blind. I didn't know that showing boobs and acting dumb in videos made you a great people. I applause, what a reference you have. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 11:31)

Criticism (35,212) by Ray from Malaysia My mentor always reminds me to listen to criticism and always appreciate it, because it shows that people still care or at least show interest in you. Take it in, improve yourself and move on. Listening to praises alone will do you no good. And when people stop commenting or criticizing you, that's when people stop caring and won't bother about you anymore. Mariah, please know that fans do care for you and only want for you to become the best. And for those who always, always tell it's good when it's really bad, look up the meaning of the word "enabler". Thank you. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 8:52)

Thank you Bob (35,211) by RadChad from the U.S. You know I can acknowledge that Mariah's voice has it's ups and downs, but there's just something that just doesn't sit well with me when I see so called "lambs" go in/attack MCs apperance then turn around and give her an overtly hard time about not sounding astonishing on a snow filled mountain after a well deserved festive week. What's even more annoying is when people act like it's the first time they've noticed her voice isn't as perfect as day one. Get over it already or just be optimistic, but this is a fan site and I just feel that there should be a love fest everytime I come here, not people go in on her worst than her haters. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 5:24)

Move on (35,210) by Bob, IAA from the USA With all the moaning, bitching, and complaining that I've been reading the past few days about Mariah's voice not being what it once was, I'd swear most of you are just "fair weather" fans. Many seem to be obssessed with comparing yesterday with today. It's not 1997 anymore. The butterflies have long since flown away. Time marches on. Do any of you sound the way you did 10, 15, 20 years ago? No. Neither does Mariah. Why? Because she is human, and she can not defy time any more than the rest of us. Mariah is a professional and dedicated person in her craft. True lambs know she will always give 100% of herself in whatever she does, including singing. She will adjust accordingly, and she will do whatever it takes to give us the best possible music she can. If that means auto-tuning and no more live performances, so be it. Bottom line is she will still be writing music and performing music with soul and meaning, just as she has since the dawn of her career. Maybe she should record a version of Springsteen's "Glory Days" to let everyone know that, yes, she knows it ain't what it used to be. But on the flipside, the best is yet to come. On a personal note. To me, if Mariah couldn't sing another note ever again, I will still be her lamb because I love Mariah, the person. What she has personally meant to me is something I will always treasure. If she wants to drink some Angel champagne or smoke a blunt, let her. She's more than earned it. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 2:34)

Wow (35,209) by RibbonB from the USA I'm glad it seems Mariah could give two shits about what people think they know about her life or her voice. She above anyone else knows what's up and what's good. I'm glad she is living her life and nurturing her gifts. I also love her statement that there are lambs and then there are the goats. Lol. You gotta love her sense of humor. Another statement that a lot of artists and manager often tweet is "Why listen to people who have never done what the greats have done or are doing?" That would be absurd, IMO. (Sunday 6 May 2012; 0:51)

Mariah's voice (35,208) by Dani from the USA I agree with a lot of the comments below. Mariah's voice has changed, and I'm sure she is aware of it, but I also think that she is under so much pressure to sound like her 25 year old self. I think once one truly understands why her voice has changed, one will also see that she in no way should be scrutinized for her present voice. Reasons why I think her voice has changed: 1) With age, a human's voice becomes deeper. This is evident even in Mariah's talking voice. Check out her recent interviews. 2) She was pressured to complete one album every year since her 1990 debut. This is unheard of for an artist who heavily relies on their voice. It's so straining on the vocal chords. 3) During the Daydream/Butterfly era, Mariah was assuming more creative and personal independence and Tommy just could not handle that. It's unspoken, but he was interfering with her work creatively. Is it strange to anyone that Mariah did not win one single Grammy in '96? Why Underneath The Stars was not made a commercial single? Why Slipping Away was not even on the album cut? Why Butterfly was not promoted as her previous efforts had been? The fear, pressure, and restlessness affected her voice. 4) The breakdown of 2001 took the greatest toll, I feel. She overworked herself in an attempt to prove herself, and it led to some noticeable vocal damage. So Mariah shouldn't continue to be put in a cage. Tommy did that already. Her fans shouldn't. Let her explore and change, use her low register. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 23:45)

Ian James / Tommy (35,207) by Ben from London I don't know if Tommy took good care of her romantically, I wasn't there and that wasn't what I was talking about. However he did take very good care of her voice and image hence the no alcohol rule, no partying late nights etc. Mariah deemed this as controlling and freed herself, good for her. But what happened after her separation? Who did she start surrounding herself with? Then of course came the vocal decline and since then it's been up and down. Her voice only came back during the MCIIU promotions because she wasn't drinking. It's just sad that this once in a lifetime voice is dwindling. How can she say during the Fuse interview that her voice is the same when we all know it isn't? I truly love Mariah like no other singer, but it's just sad to see this happening. Fans should be proud when watching her performing live, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I think vocal training and keeping away from drink would do her so much good, but will she do it? Probably not. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 22:36)

Mariah's voice (35,206) by Emma from London What can Mariah do to improve her vocals now, so she sounds crystal clear beautiful when singing live again? (Saturday 5 May 2012; 21:06)

Mariah's vocal quality (35,205) by Dan in H-town from the USA This discussion reminds me of things I read in the '80s from Journey fans who started noticing Steve Perry having vocal trouble after Journey's Escape tour in 1981-82. He eventually admitted to a drinking problem that he knew was hurting his voice. I think Mariah's affinity for champagne is starting to show delayed effects on her voice in live performances now. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 20:53)

Mariah (35,204) by Scott from the USA All good. I expected a bashing from my comment. Anyone who thought that Mariah sounded good in Austria I think that's great and glad you enjoyed it. But just because I have a different opinion doesn't make me a hater or not a true fan. It's my opinion which I'm entitled to it. I love listening to Mariah's studio albums, Memoirs being one of my favourites, but I personally think it's a shame she can't replicate that sound when singing live. So Courtney, I'm not sure how that makes me ignorant or over dramatic. She's a singer and I expect her to sing good. After watching her recent live performances on YouTube, I always go back and watch old ones where I consider her to sound good. There's always excuses for her not sounding good, but I feel they are just excuses. She's a singer, she should sing well. As for Julie Andrews, she had the surgery and can no longer sing. What choice did she have though? Either try and fix her voice or sing terribly. As a professional singer, she knew she couldn't keep singing with the nodules. Anyway, I am a true fan. It doesn't mean I have to love every single thing that Mariah does though. Every pop star has made faux pas, she's no exception. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 15:54)

Truth (35,203) by Dav from Ireland The lambs are laying it out. Very honest comments coming out here. I hope someone on Mariah's team or even Mariah are reading it. If it is due to lack of effort in training or drinking etc, maybe something can be done. I still feel she sang well last week, relative to the last 10 years and therefore have big hopes for the new album. I hope she's over the belting being boring and brings the big guns back in. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 15:20)

Dominique (35,202) by Gigi from China I agree with you. I also think that her greatness mostly stop in the recording studio now. Her live performances in the nineteens were spactacular, because at this time there was only music in her life and it was the only thing she could rely on, because her private life was chaotic. Now I can understand that she's busy with other stuff and she just want to enjoy life. But personally, as a a long time fan, I would be quite disappointing to buy tickets and see poor vocals performances like I saw in Austria. When you buy albums and support an artist, I think you want to get the same quality in live as the quality you hear on an album, it's common sense, it's not being rude saying that. And it's not only in Austria, I watched so many live performances in USA these last years and it was poor quality. So it's not only a matter of altitude or temperature. The last good live performance in my opinion was for her last Christmas album, I was almost surprised how good it was, but this show was well prepared and maybe dubbed as well. She built her career and her fanbase on her voice, so it's normal that lots of fans here are maybe uncompromising on this point. I don't care about her dresses, her fragances, her weight, the things she sells on TV, I want to hear live what I hear on the record that I bought, that's all. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 9:57)

Ben (35,201) by Ian James from Sabah, Malaysia So, Mariah could sing extremely well back in the day because Tommy Mottola took good care of her? Seriously? (Saturday 5 May 2012; 8:41)

Mariah's voice (35,200) by Ian James from Sabah, Malaysia I guess it's so easy to judge other people when they don't live up to our expectations. Yes, you just want Mariah to sing to the best of her ability, but what if she has done her best? I believe she's fully aware of her vocal condition. Never, in my entire life, have I heard any other singers who slept with 20 humidifiers around them. My point is, if being a fan gives you and me the right to judge Mariah, then we can simply say everyone's got something to blame. We can blame those who died of cancer for not fighting hard enough. Or we can blame the doctors for doing a lousy job. We can blame our children for being lazy when they don't get straight A's - it doesn't matter if they've tried their best. Yes, Mariah can no longer sing live as well as she could 15-20 years ago. I'm not trying to make any excuses, but time and again, Mariah has said she has nodules in her vocal fold. Some of you might not realize how severe those nodules can affect one's ability in speech, what more singing. Celine Dion, Patti Labelle and the others are lucky because they were not born with vocal fold complications. Imagine being labelled as a failure just because your physical limitations do not allow you to play basketball or become a model. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 8:39)

Mariah's live performance (35,199) by Ryan from the Philippines First of all, I was never a fan until 2002 when Charmbracelet came, Through The Rain single to be specific. For all we know, 00's was never like the 90's vocally, but I have learned to appreciate her and eventually became a lamb. I must admit I've had some dissapointments during the Mimi tour, but I've also come to realize that she has nothing to prove anymore. She's already, if not, she should be treated as a legend, but despite all the greatness she has done, everything is still not enough to some people. Watching her live performances today makes me happy knowing that she's still there singing for the people despite the vocal problems she has. And watching her live performances in the 90's wherein I wasn't a fan then, to me is already a bonus of the greatness she shared to us. I hope we all get to appreciate her while she's still active, she is and nobody is perfect, so I hope people will stop moaning about her recent performances. She is and will always be MC. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 8:15)

I'm intrigued by Mesmerized (35,198) by RibbonB from the USA I'm really looking forward to hearing this new Mariah song. The movie sounds somewhat interesting, but I'm anxious to know how Mariah turned that into a movie theme song. I wonder who her co-writer is, if any. Perhaps we will get to hear it before June, when the movie will appear in Cannes. Since Mariah is expected in Monaco in early June, perhaps she will also attend Cannes film festival at the end of May. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 3:14)

Mariah, Mariah, Mariah (35,197) by Gilbert from the USA It's really nice to see everyone's view on Mariah. I really feel in love with Mariah in 1995, Fantasy video. My brother introduced me to her but he started when she first came out. He stopped after Daydream and didn't buy any of her music after that. I asked him why and everyone used to tease me about how Mariah thought she was it. She became high and mighty and I never seen that, and I think that is what happens here, when the disagreements come out the person is told they are a hater or a traitor. I've stuck with Mariah through the good and the bad, almost 17 years. I have to agree Mariah no longer puts efforts into her music as she once did and I believe she admits to it. There was an article somewhere that she hated "belting" notes because it was boring, but what she doesn't realize is that is what made her so huge. Once she changed in her music, everything went down hill. I love Mariah, and always will, but I've come to terms that the Mariah I feel in love with may not return anymore and that's okay. She will always have a place in my heart. I'm going to always support her, I have to agree that the music isn't that great anymore. I also wish and this is just a tour issue. The complaint I've always had is, she sings the same damn songs. After awhile if you seen one concert you've seen them all. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 2:53)

Voice (35,196) by Dominique from Cape Town, South Africa I need to start facing the facts, Mariah is no longer a performing artist. I will always be a faithful fan and I'll always follow up on Mimi. I've watched every single live performance ever recorded and I own every piece of studio recording ever released. I can never deny Mariah's in-studio creativity and her work ethic, but I'm afraid that's where it ends musically. As a singer myself, it would be amazing to see her deliver live once more. I, too, had my hopes up during her pregnancy after hearing the Christmas performances, but I realise now that it was more of a natural wonder than anything else. I personally don't think Mariah is too bothered with constantly training her voice. I don't believe that it's an inability, but more of a lack of focus. You can clearly see the difference between her performances before she became "free" and after. The focus then shifted from "the voice" to what's appealing to the eye. Nonetheless, I'm a lamb for life. It's just sad that as time passes, I have to lower my expectations of my idol. (Saturday 5 May 2012; 1:17)

Someday (35,195) by Hannah from London I was on YouTube today and I came across Rezonance Q singing Mariah's Someday. I like the beat of the tune and I could imagine Mariah singing it that way. Have you people heard it before? (Friday 4 May 2012; 23:42)

Traitors (35,194) by Zachary from Croatia That's what you are. All of you who are saying "I am done with Mariah's singing live". Please. I am not a fan (since 1992) just beacuse of her singing; I am a fan of the whole package and that is the songs, the lyrics, the melodies, the hand movements, the hair, the legs, everything. Yes, maybe she can't pull some notes that she could before but MCIIY live performances where amazing to me. For those less perfect, still ok. I think she did a solid job in Austria. Every artist has good days and bad days. What I am trying to say, she is here when we need some saving grace. We are here for her when she has some troubles. Support, damn it. (Friday 4 May 2012; 23:09)

Concert, back in the swing of things (35,193) by Dav from Ireland Just listening to the clips again now. Yeah, it's not 199? But these are some of her best vocals in the last decade. Trust me, I've been listening. Plus she's singing again. She's enjoying the songs and her voice. I think it comes down to confidence with her, and she seems to have that here. After hearing this, high hopes for the new albums vocals. On another note, the weight is up. I'm no expert, but doesn't that happen her pre-mentruation? Oscars anyone? Plus she had a week of partying for all the celebrations. Give her a break. Imperfect after all. Go Mariah. (Friday 4 May 2012; 22:38)

Sad (35,192) by Stacey from the USA It's pretty sad we have to say "prepare for the coming bashing" before expressing an opinion. Whatever happened to good, honest discussions amongst ourselves? (Friday 4 May 2012; 21:56)

Billy (35,191) by Stacey from the USA Here, here. TTEOT is one of my all-time favorite MC ballads. The emotion from that bridge to the part where she sings for the last time "till the end" where she digs deep to hit those notes is unmatched in emotion by anything else I've ever heard. What a great ballad. I was listening to it the other day. Thanks for giving this song some props again. (Friday 4 May 2012; 21:53)

Till The End Of Time (35,190) by Billy from London I would really really really love to see Mariah perform TTEOT live now. It's my favorite song and she should write more songs like that. It's so beautiful. (Friday 4 May 2012; 18:57)

Marioh/Scott: Finally somebody says it like it is (35,189) by Edward from the U.S.A. I do agree with you 100%, but be ready for the coming bashing. They're going to tell you to leave Mariah alone, to drop it and move on, and the fans who don't know how amazing she used to sound might call you ignorant and a hater. So be ready. I do love Mariah, I've always loved her, her music was my saving grace after my mother passing during Daydream. I, like many other fans, still hoped for her voice to recover from whatever happened to it, but it never did. I do enjoy a good studio album though, she can still pull it there. As for her live performances, I'm done with them. I must admit though that when I hear all the hype about a performance here and there, I get excited and always go and check on them full of hope. Last live performance I enjoy from her was "One Child" at the White House. She was pregnant, and out of the influence, that must've given her some range back. I also agree with Scott, if you're a professional singer, sing damn it. It shouldn't be that hard. It's nerve wrecking to see the insecurity in Mariah's face while singing live these days. (Friday 4 May 2012; 18:27)

Austria (35,188) by Marty from the UK Some awful ignorant comments about her voice. Yeah, she sounded rough at times, but it has to do with how cold it was and the altitude. I thought she sounded fine considering that. Listen to My All, It's Like That, Emotions, Heartbreaker and you see that her voice has improved so much from 08 and 09. She even did live whistles for the first time in years. That was also proved at the Gotham Hall concert. Only difference now was the cold and altitude and I dare any one of the people who are talking about her alcohol consumption (which you clearly know nothing about) to try and sing in those conditions and we'll see how you sound. (Friday 4 May 2012; 15:40)

MariahLiveConcerts (35,187) by Will from England Go to this YouTube page and this person has got much better audio quality than the rest of the videos on YouTube videos put together. For Emotions, you can clearly hear that she's singing those high notes live. I don't care what anybody says, her voice was in good condition. This isn't 199whatever, this is 2012, her voice won't be what it was. She's using what she's got. Sure, she'll have bad days, she'll have good days vocally, we all do. I think people need to cut her some slack in that department. (Friday 4 May 2012; 13:03)

Re: Marioh (35,186) by Billy from Greece You sound quite ignorant for a Mariah fan, or a vocal artist fan in general. Yes, Mariah can be incosistent live, but she has always been one, pre-Butterfly era as well. Having watched a great many live post-Butterfly performances of Mariah, all I can say is that she improves as years pass by. She has developed nuances and interpretive skills that she did not exhibit in her earlier performances, while she perfected her whistle register so much that it became something that no other popular singer (other than Minnie Ripperton) has ever been witnessed to do. Mariah's voice is very fragile, especially compared to Barbra Streisand's for instance, whose chest notes and belting grew even stronger and more beautiful during her forties. But that's because of Mariah's nodules, thanks to which she can access the whistle register. In this sense, they are both her blessing and her curse. I can recall numerous performances from 1998, 1999, 2001, the whole "Charmbracelet tour", 2008, 2009, and the outstanding Christmas in Washington 2010 performances that showcase Mariah's still potent once-in-a-lifetime voice, and can easily compare or even outdo the early years. What I think came in play is that after the "Glitter" era she became overtly insecure of herself, even more protective of her voice (even scared of it) and in several occasions she tried to appeal to the general public's expectations of "Mariah the larger than life diva" instead of losing herself into her music. (Friday 4 May 2012; 11:51)

Re: Marioh (35,185) by Ray from Malaysia I have the performance of UTS live at Tokyo Dome in my collection. I went back to listening to that immediately after watching her performance in Austria. I felt so emotional, and how I long for that moment to return. I agree with you that people who became fans after 1997 did not experience the magic of each Mariah's live performance, anticipating how she would interpret her own songs vocally on stage. She was already a bit hoarse on the Divas Live concert 1998. And then her performance of TGIFY Remix at the AMA 2000, way below her own standards. Ever since then, she even sings Hero in a lower key. A lot of people criticized her underperformance during the Micheal Jackson funeral. Well, yes, it was emotionally overwhelming for her, but seriously, are her other recent performances really that much better? I'm still glad that TAOM is a commercial success, but it will never compare to her very first MTV Unplugged, her Thanksgiving concert and Fantasy at MSG. (Friday 4 May 2012; 8:59)

Marioh (35,184) by Ian James from Sabah, Malaysia I think you're confusing a lot of people with your analysis. Do bear in mind that most people who thought Mariah sounded great in Austria (me included) became a fan in the 90's, during which Mariah's voice was at its peak. You said Mariah's vocal peaked at 29. If you were a real fan and kept track of Mariah's career, you would probably know all too well that it was at that age Mariah released Rainbow. If your analysis were right, Mariah was supposed to "suck" during the post-Butterfly era. Yes, you have made your point clearly the first time around. Don't get mad just because not everyone went into raptures about your post. Nobody even bothers changing your opinion if you think Mariah's current singing voice sucks. So what if other fans did not come up with disparaging comments about the Austria concert? So what if we still love her? (Friday 4 May 2012; 8:55)

Alison Carey's cancer (35,183) by Dan in H-town from the USA Joseph in Australia, I saw that article yesterday, but I hesitated posting about it. She's still sleeping for money, too, apparently. I can't imagine how Patricia Carey feels about this. (Friday 4 May 2012; 6:15)

The voice (35,182) by Ben from London I agree, and have seen it for some time that it's the alcohol that has affected her voice, she knows it too I'm sure. We all know Mariah likes to drink now and then. Mottola made sure she didn't drink because he knew the damage it can cause. Yes, that's controlling, but it was for her own good in the long run. The only reason I'm complaining is because Mariah is only 42, she should still be singing perfectly, and she has it in her, but she won't do her best to cherish it and let it shine and I find that annoying. Her performances at Washington during Christmas gave me hope. (Friday 4 May 2012; 2:36)

Decent performance in Austria? Yeah right (35,181) by Marioh from the U.S.A. It seems to be that most people here became Mariah's fans after 1997, since around that time her live performances started to suck. It was my pride and joy to show my friends and family how this amazing singer sounded as if you were listening to a CD while singing live. Then everything changed. I do believe there are two Mariah eras: pre and post Butterfly. Pre-Butterfly, Mariah sounded amazing, her performances were amazingly effortless, her mid-range was beautiful, her nuances were weirdly different and beautiful. Post-Butterfly, Mariah broke free from her marriage, good for her. But with that came the weed, nights out, alcohol and from there everything was downhill. I started noticing that performances that once were easy and natural to her became a struggle. Mariah was always struggling, gasping for air, her mid-range disappeared and ever since then watching her perform was a nervous breakdown for me. Through The Rain at the AMAs was horrible by her early standards. Mariah peaked vocally at 29, and that's sad to me. So, when I read posts here about how those mediocre performances in Austria were good, it makes me mad. Do you want to know what "Underneath The Stars" sounds like when sung beautifully, then YoyTube "Underneath The Stars Tokyo Dome 1996". Then come here and tell me that Mariah sounded better in Japan because the air is perfect, nobody smoked, she didn't have kids, the altitude was perfect, oh, and this is a good one, she had rested her voice. (Friday 4 May 2012; 1:57)

Mariah sounded great in Austria (35,180) by RibbonB from the USA I thought her voice was in good form based on the footage released by the concert promoters. And the people who actually went to the concert in Austria seemed to be very happy and entertained. Perhaps people here shouldn't base their complaints off of other people's bootlegged phone taped concert footage with people cheering and singing along in the background. (Friday 4 May 2012; 0:20)

Austria concert (35,179) by Billy from England I wish people would stop moaning about Mariahs voice. I thought she sounded amazing in Austria and I am so greatful that we get to see her perform live. You should all be happy to see her performing, instead of bitching, even about her weight. Does it really matter? I love Mariah as a person and in my eyes, I don't think her weight should be an issue. (Friday 4 May 2012; 0:05)

I love you Mariah (35,178) by Anthony from England Now please sing again. Please. Just sing. Like you proved you still can incredibly Christmas 2010. Just sing. This is my tenth year as your fan, and I love you so much, but I just need you to blow a live performance out of the water again. Prove to the world you are Mariah Carey, the greatest voice this world has ever been blessed with. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 23:42)

Scott (35,177) by Courtney from the USA You sound ignorant and over dramatic. Mariah could loose her entire voice if she had the nodules removed and the doctor screwed up. Look what happened to dame Julie Andrews. Plus you're not taking into account that altitude stress and temperature affect how a singer sounds. Mariah's concert in Austria was at quite an altitude, so her voice was going to be thin. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 23:22)

Nikki (35,176) by TJ from Norway I thought Mariah had a lot of movie songs. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 22:18)

Mariahs performance and weight (35,175) by TJ from Norway I don't think her weight is a problem, it's more what she's wearing. Why must her outfits "always" be one size to little? She's 42 years old and I guess it is time to dress like one too. I have not heard or read anything from fans who actually went to the concert and I think we should hear what they are saying before we slam her performance. I have only heard mobilephone recordings and it is outdoors, so that might do something with the recording sound. I don't know. A fact is that her voice was much much better in the early 90's and it is not true that her voice couldn't be as good today because she is older. Many fans have used that excuse since the late 90's when she was only 29-30 years old. A lot of singers (George Michael, Aretha Franklin, Celine Dion ond so on) still got it. More focus on singing and less focus on how she looks while singing could do wonders. I really, really hope for a pop-album this time. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 22:18)

Elizabeth (35,174) by Nattalie from the USA Lol, are you seriously just now finding out she is bi-racial? You can look at her and see that. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 22:17)

New song (35,173) by Billy from England I am so excited to hear Mesmerized. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 21:23)

Mariah has a movie song (35,172) by Nikki from the USA This is so cool. Celine had Titanic, Whitney had The Bodyguard, Madge had whatever she did in the 80's, and now MC has The Paperboy. I can't wait to hear what Mesmerized sounds like, but considering the other big names did big love story movies, it'll be interesting to see how this gritty drama will turn out. Also, if anyone's interested, there's a great quality of Emotions from Austria on YouTube where you can actually hear her sing and it is obviously 100% live. It's (HD) Mariah Carey - Emotions (Live at Ischgl - 2012) by MCLAMB4LIFE1. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 20:05)

Re: Lee from the UK (35,171) by Nikki from the USA When you're searching on YouTube, try putting HD at the end. Some HD performances are available and are stated as such. Mariah sounded great, although there were a few places where the backup overpowered her vocals on some tracks. Pretty decent performances though. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 19:37)

Mariah (35,170) by Elizabeth Brown from Canada Did I hear or read somewhere that Mariah is of mixed race? (Thursday 3 May 2012; 19:33)

MC in People mag (35,169) by Ryan from the Philippines Wow. Simple yet classy photo. She is truly amazing and beautiful inside and out. Ad I've seen how she became a better person after the great success of TEOM, like how she kept her faith to God and to herself that she can still conquer the top and seeing how she appreciates all the people who support her. And Nick's statement that she looks prettiest upon waking up is just so sweet for a man to say to a woman. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 18:13)

Voice (35,168) by Ray from Malaysia I have this suspicion for a very, very long time now, and I'm gonna let it out now. I have a feeling that alcohol is ruining her voice. Plus, being around people that smoke pot, with all the smoke. If Mariah says her vocal cords are very sensitive, these substances will have ill effect on her voice. I think Mariah stayed away from drinking during her pregnancy, and it did good for her vocals. Now, I'm not so sure. Edward, I feel you. I'm a fan of the 90's Mariah vocals, super smooth and ultra dynamic. Dominique, you might be right, she might have to retrain the voice. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 15:19)

New album (35,167) by Trish from the USA I would love to hear some real ballads on the new album. I thought Memiors was seriously lacking in this department. I thought "One Child" was the best Mariah ballad I've heard in a long, long time. I keep listening to her performance of Stevie Wonder's "You and I", it is so beautiful. I wish we could see pictures of her in the studio with Stevie instead of Rick Ross. Ugh. I can't wait to hear Mesmerized. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 13:39)

Dominique and Edward (35,166) by Scott from the USA I also agree guys. Mariah did not sound good at all in Austria. And before everyone starts bashing me, no, I do not expect Mariah to sing like she did back in the early nineties. But considering she is a professional singer, I do expect her to sing in key and give a decent performance. Where is the tone, legato, control, range and melisma? As a professional, Mariah is a lot of things, but first and foremost professionally she is a singer and she should therefore take better care of her voice when she is going to sing. It makes me think, is she capable of singing anymore? If she really has lots of rest etc, then is she able to sing or is her voice just shot? To me, it just simply isn't good enough. People say she's the voice, but what would happen if any one of her performances from Austria was sung on an American Idol type competition in this day and age? Let's be honest, she wouldn't even make the top 100 and that is just sad. I know Mariah has said she has nodules which help her hit the high whistle notes, but personally (and I'm sure many fans would agree) I'd rather have the nodules fixed and her not be able to hit those whistle notes if it meant her range, tone, control and melisma returned. To me it was always these elements of her voice which made her amazing, not the whistle notes. Mariah's range has clearly reduced remarkably. You can hear this in the Austria performances when she "pushes" out notes that she once could hit with ease, and some of these notes aren't even high. I know I probably sound nasty, but the first thing my ears felt when hearing those performances was "this doesn't sound good". And I wasn't going to try and convince myself that it did. What gets me most of all is that how can Mariah being the perfectionist that she is allow herself to come out on stage when this is the quality of her voice? She is a singer, I want to hear her sing, not struggle. I think if she can't do it then don't do it. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 12:12)

The voice (35,165) by Nattalie from the USA Ok, I'm not here on the defend Mariah's campaign, but I have to put my thoughts out there. I don't know how many times I have made this statement, but I have seen her live back in 2009 and she performed Emotions live. It was not lip sync at all. You can check out my YouTube page dionnemya005 and see that her voice is more than there. Now as I watch these current videos, I see that she is lacking her special touch. I'm not trying to make an excuse, but her anniversary was that day and she did celebrate two days before that performance and I'm sure she continued to. Something tells me that she did not rest her voice. She may have partied too hard. When I say too hard, I do not mean acting wild. I just mean too much for a singer that is going to perform within the week. It does not take much to tire a vocalist at all. Plus keep in mind the time changes. Mariah picked some very hard songs. She would not have selected these songs if she didn't think she could do it. The thing was, she probably was able to do them well, but under her circumstances, it wasn't as hot as she thought. (Thursday 3 May 2012; 11:09)