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Why is there no JD on Butterfly? (106,307) by MusicfanJ from Germany Good question Robert-Anthony. But Bone-Thugs were West-Coast? I can't remember. Lol. I love your idea with the New York sound. MC and NYC best duo. (Saturday 27 April 2024; 14:25) this is a reply to message 106,305

Why is there no JD on Butterfly? (106,305) by Robert-Anthony from United States We know why there is no JD on Glitter and Memoirs. But why didn't MC record any tracks with JD for Butterfly. Was she exclusively seeking a New York hip hop and rap sound that only New York and East coast producers could only have given her? Was she paying homage to her home city with the Butterfly album? Maybe that is what she needs to do for MC16 is to focus on a New York sound with a live band. Go back Proctor's Theater and SNL to promote the album. (Saturday 27 April 2024; 02:28)

Will the Mariah Carey story ever be told? (106,306) by MusicfanJ from Germany I really wish there would be a part two in the future. Mariah is still such a mystery. In the 90ies even more, but yes "Looking in" really comes to my mind everytime I think of the one and only Mariah. I guess her book didn't tell a lot of new things for fans. I really would like to know more things. Topics could be about New York, the music biz, how it's like to be a global legend, maybe tell a hidden hobby. Is there a favourite project that hasn't been completed right now? Things of that nature. (Saturday 27 April 2024; 12:35) this is a reply to message 106,304

Will the Mariah Carey story ever be told? (106,304) by jaker20 from US I've kind of been wondering about this. I really think her bio is the most open she's ever been. But we know that's not complete. I feel like there's a part 2 to it. But then she also said that "You'll never know the real me." (Saturday 27 April 2024; 00:53)

Why is there no JD on Butterfly? (106,305) by Robert-Anthony from United States We know why there is no JD on Glitter and Memoirs. But why didn't MC record any tracks with JD for Butterfly. Was she exclusively seeking a New York hip hop and rap sound that only New York and East coast producers could only have given her? Was she paying homage to her home city with the Butterfly album? Maybe that is what she needs to do for MC16 is to focus on a New York sound with a live band. Go back Proctor's Theater and SNL to promote the album. (Saturday 27 April 2024; 02:28)

Will the Mariah Carey story ever be told? (106,304) by jaker20 from US I've kind of been wondering about this. I really think her bio is the most open she's ever been. But we know that's not complete. I feel like there's a part 2 to it. But then she also said that "You'll never know the real me." (Saturday 27 April 2024; 00:53) this is a reply to message 106,300

Will the Mariah Carey story ever be told? (106,300) by Robert-Anthony from United States I hope MC allows her story to be told for the big screen. Her story needs to be told with all the good, bad, and ugly. The opening song should be Vision of Love. The emotional moment song should be My Saving Grace. The redemption song should be We Belong Together. The closing song should be Fly Like A Bird. Hopefully, it will happen in the next 10 years. (Friday 26 April 2024; 04:47)

Taylor (106,303) by Tevin from USA Thank you Mimi L. I don't know why certain people keep saying that Taylor was being put on that same pedestal as Mariah. No one has said that. That's like saying back in the 90s there was only one NBA player, because Jordan was the best and no one else could be considered or named an NBA player. Other people can be mentioned along side Mariah's name without saying they are anywhere near the level of Mariah. (Friday 26 April 2024; 17:02) this is a reply to message 106,302

Taylor (106,302) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I feel like this whole discussion has been misunderstood. At no point did anyone put them in the same category, in fact quite the opposite, it was mentioned multiple times that Taylor is majority hype vs talent while Mariah is the opposite so it almost seems unfair. But to your point Taylor isn't where she is just because she is current. There are plenty of current talented artists who haven't reached her level of impact that we've seen from her in the past 2 years. People, including big publications, are even scared to write anything negative about her. All that being said, let's give credit where she's due, Taylor does write her own stuff and hardly uses that many co-writers. She wrote whole of "Speak Now" by herself and lot of tracks on her current album has her solo credits. She's no Beyoncé changing one word and then getting credit. (Friday 26 April 2024; 15:27)

Taylor (106,302) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I feel like this whole discussion has been misunderstood. At no point did anyone put them in the same category, in fact quite the opposite, it was mentioned multiple times that Taylor is majority hype vs talent while Mariah is the opposite so it almost seems unfair. But to your point Taylor isn't where she is just because she is current. There are plenty of current talented artists who haven't reached her level of impact that we've seen from her in the past 2 years. People, including big publications, are even scared to write anything negative about her. All that being said, let's give credit where she's due, Taylor does write her own stuff and hardly uses that many co-writers. She wrote whole of "Speak Now" by herself and lot of tracks on her current album has her solo credits. She's no Beyoncé changing one word and then getting credit. (Friday 26 April 2024; 15:27) this is a reply to message 106,301

Taylor (106,301) by Zachariah from Croatia Taylor's "cultural impact and craze" on the music industry today is exactly because of that, because she exists today, where social media, marketing manipulations and bombardment with feuds with exes and writing about them is highly accessible. If she started her career when Mariah started, she would be nowhere. Non existent. Mediocre singer with writing abilities only if she is in a team with 15 more people who are co writing the song. So please, let's not put Mariah and Taylor in any category together. Ever. (Friday 26 April 2024; 09:11)

Taylor (106,301) by Zachariah from Croatia Taylor's "cultural impact and craze" on the music industry today is exactly because of that, because she exists today, where social media, marketing manipulations and bombardment with feuds with exes and writing about them is highly accessible. If she started her career when Mariah started, she would be nowhere. Non existent. Mediocre singer with writing abilities only if she is in a team with 15 more people who are co writing the song. So please, let's not put Mariah and Taylor in any category together. Ever. (Friday 26 April 2024; 09:11) this is a reply to message 106,297

Taylor (106,297) by Tevin from USA Hi Tony, I'm going to assume that you were responding to my post. First of all, I never said Taylor and Mariah were in the same league, especially vocally. I said that they are both known for their song writing, which is true. Second unless someone is living under a rock, there is no denying (whether a person likes it or not) the cultural impact and craze that Taylor has on the music industry today. The only one close to having her impact is Adele, but due to vocal issues, she's been MIA. Third you may not be a fan of Taylor, I'd even admit that I'm not a fan of her last few albums, but there is no denying that some of her early work (especially the country music, not pop) was quality work, and like Mariah, she has been able to have major success in different music genres. It may not be your cup of tea, but just like some people didn't or don't like Mariah's music (which I personally think they are crazy for not liking) that doesn't mean that Mariah or her career is trash and the same applies to Taylor. Anyway I'm done talking about Taylor now, since this is a Mariah board, but we shouldn't trash or minimize other people's work, or achievements, just to put Mariah on a pedestal. (Friday 26 April 2024; 00:58)

Will the Mariah Carey story ever be told? (106,300) by Robert-Anthony from United States I hope MC allows her story to be told for the big screen. Her story needs to be told with all the good, bad, and ugly. The opening song should be Vision of Love. The emotional moment song should be My Saving Grace. The redemption song should be We Belong Together. The closing song should be Fly Like A Bird. Hopefully, it will happen in the next 10 years. (Friday 26 April 2024; 04:47)

MC and Big Jim Wright (106,299) by Robert-Anthony from United States I really think Big Jim Wright helped MC tap into a side of her soulful writing ability that we had never seen before prior to 2005. Songs like Circles, I Wish You Knew, Cry., Camouflage, and FLAB are some of MC's most soulful songs. Have you ever listened Cry. and Camouflage back to back? There is a sad love story told about the break-up Mariah's and Nick's marriage in those two gems. These two gems remind me of 70's R&B band L.T.D.'s Love Ballad and Where Did We Go Wrong? I love all of the vocal flaws in Circles. I Wish You Knew reminds me of why MC's writing skills are impeccable. FLAB reminds me growing up in a Baptist church when the choir director tells the musicians to cut the music because he knows that the song leader is about to take the church "there". (Friday 26 April 2024; 03:34)

Taylor (106,298) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Side note to this (and this isn't a direct response to anyone's opinion just my thoughts) the aspect of songwriting. Mariah can write circles around Taylor because Mariah's songwriting is more graceful, mature, elegant and eloquent. Not only her lyrics and music but her layering and creating a wall of sound with just her voice. Yet unfortunately songwriting is not what Mariah is known for and I think from day 1 they should have highlighted her songwriting more than her voice because there's no hiding her voice but her songwriting wasn't and isn't well known because she's not out there with a guitar in hand. This was a missed opportunity on her team's part of another aspect that set Mariah apart. She has 19 #1's but not a lot of people know that 18 of those are self penned, some as early as when she was a teenager. Taylor's team puts a lot of highlight on her songwriting. (Friday 26 April 2024; 03:14) this is a reply to message 106,297

Taylor (106,297) by Tevin from USA Hi Tony, I'm going to assume that you were responding to my post. First of all, I never said Taylor and Mariah were in the same league, especially vocally. I said that they are both known for their song writing, which is true. Second unless someone is living under a rock, there is no denying (whether a person likes it or not) the cultural impact and craze that Taylor has on the music industry today. The only one close to having her impact is Adele, but due to vocal issues, she's been MIA. Third you may not be a fan of Taylor, I'd even admit that I'm not a fan of her last few albums, but there is no denying that some of her early work (especially the country music, not pop) was quality work, and like Mariah, she has been able to have major success in different music genres. It may not be your cup of tea, but just like some people didn't or don't like Mariah's music (which I personally think they are crazy for not liking) that doesn't mean that Mariah or her career is trash and the same applies to Taylor. Anyway I'm done talking about Taylor now, since this is a Mariah board, but we shouldn't trash or minimize other people's work, or achievements, just to put Mariah on a pedestal. (Friday 26 April 2024; 00:58)

Taylor (106,297) by Tevin from USA Hi Tony, I'm going to assume that you were responding to my post. First of all, I never said Taylor and Mariah were in the same league, especially vocally. I said that they are both known for their song writing, which is true. Second unless someone is living under a rock, there is no denying (whether a person likes it or not) the cultural impact and craze that Taylor has on the music industry today. The only one close to having her impact is Adele, but due to vocal issues, she's been MIA. Third you may not be a fan of Taylor, I'd even admit that I'm not a fan of her last few albums, but there is no denying that some of her early work (especially the country music, not pop) was quality work, and like Mariah, she has been able to have major success in different music genres. It may not be your cup of tea, but just like some people didn't or don't like Mariah's music (which I personally think they are crazy for not liking) that doesn't mean that Mariah or her career is trash and the same applies to Taylor. Anyway I'm done talking about Taylor now, since this is a Mariah board, but we shouldn't trash or minimize other people's work, or achievements, just to put Mariah on a pedestal. (Friday 26 April 2024; 00:58) this is a reply to message 106,295

Taylor (106,295) by Tony Lorenzo from UK Who has the audacity to put Taylor Swift in the same sentence as Mariah Carey? Cease and desist. They are not in the same league. Mariah changed music, and is her own genre that people then copied. Vocally let's not even go there because even saying Taylor could never elevates Taylor to a height she does not deserve by mere comparison. It's laughable to refer to them together in any capacity. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 22:58)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,296) by MC85 from Canada So well put. So sad. (Friday 26 April 2024; 00:14) this is a reply to message 106,273

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,273) by jaker20 from US This is not a shade at all, but I'm just being real. I never really got the whole Taylor Swift thing, I can barely listen to a few songs. I can't really point to a specific reason why. We have hit a point where music is disposable, almost to the point of just reading their diary. Releasing an album with 31 songs and many artists are doing this because that's how the charts work. Nicky Minaj and Drake have been doing this as well. Again, not a shade, just being real. We love everybody. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 20:16)

Taylor (106,295) by Tony Lorenzo from UK Who has the audacity to put Taylor Swift in the same sentence as Mariah Carey? Cease and desist. They are not in the same league. Mariah changed music, and is her own genre that people then copied. Vocally let's not even go there because even saying Taylor could never elevates Taylor to a height she does not deserve by mere comparison. It's laughable to refer to them together in any capacity. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 22:58)

Article: Mariah's residency is a retrospective, and a gift to fans (106,294) by Tony Lorenzo from UK A wonderful review for our queen. Mariah, if you're reading this, we are begging for another album. You aint finished yet. We love retrospectiveriah, but you've got much more new music in you. As the soundtrack to our lives, we need more. Perhaps an album of jazz covers with a few original tracks? That'd be wow. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 22:53)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,293) by Robert-Anthony from United States I guess should agree and join you Shezz and Mimi. Listening to You're Mine, Triumphant remixes and some JD remixes made think that MC has really had marvelous career. What more does she really have to prove she is the G.O.A.T.? (Thursday 25 April 2024; 21:34) this is a reply to message 106,292

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,292) by Shezz from Pk Mimi L. I couldn't agree more. No more huge eras from her for sure. She has done what she wanted to. You can tell there's been a major change in her since Caution. We don't know what's going on, I doubt we ever will but I'm happy she's still there in whatever capacity she is and she hasn't retired. I'm happy I saw her live at the Caution tour. She was animated, happy and full of life. I could barely tell when she was lipping from the audience but she did sing a beautiful snippet of "Slipping Away". I strongly believe that she will release the projects she's been working on. Either one or two or all of the ones she's been talking about since covid, anybody's guess. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 19:48)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,292) by Shezz from Pk Mimi L. I couldn't agree more. No more huge eras from her for sure. She has done what she wanted to. You can tell there's been a major change in her since Caution. We don't know what's going on, I doubt we ever will but I'm happy she's still there in whatever capacity she is and she hasn't retired. I'm happy I saw her live at the Caution tour. She was animated, happy and full of life. I could barely tell when she was lipping from the audience but she did sing a beautiful snippet of "Slipping Away". I strongly believe that she will release the projects she's been working on. Either one or two or all of the ones she's been talking about since covid, anybody's guess. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 19:48) this is a reply to message 106,287

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,287) by Robert-Anthony from United States Something deep down inside of me wants that new album experience again. You know when we hear MC has a new album coming out and all of the excitement that goes along with it. I just need to experience that one more time. MC settled into her legend status way too soon for me. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 12:30)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,291) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I'm also not really interested in a gospel, jazz or SUD to be honest. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 19:19) this is a reply to message 106,290

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,290) by Tevin from USA I just hope we get Rarities 2 and one more new album. Then I'll be content. As much as I love Caution and feel like it is a great body of work, something (some spark) just seems missing from it. Also, I know many of you won't like to hear this, but I'm not interested in Mariah making a duet album, gospel or Jazz album. I dream for her to make a modern pop/rnb album in the vain of Daydream/EMC=2, with one WBT type power ballad. One has a right to dream. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 15:42)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,290) by Tevin from USA I just hope we get Rarities 2 and one more new album. Then I'll be content. As much as I love Caution and feel like it is a great body of work, something (some spark) just seems missing from it. Also, I know many of you won't like to hear this, but I'm not interested in Mariah making a duet album, gospel or Jazz album. I dream for her to make a modern pop/rnb album in the vain of Daydream/EMC=2, with one WBT type power ballad. One has a right to dream. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 15:42) this is a reply to message 106,287

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,287) by Robert-Anthony from United States Something deep down inside of me wants that new album experience again. You know when we hear MC has a new album coming out and all of the excitement that goes along with it. I just need to experience that one more time. MC settled into her legend status way too soon for me. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 12:30)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,289) by Tevin from USA I really like Taylor Swift (mostly because she's one of the few artists, other than Mariah, who writes her own music). But I do have to admit other than a few songs on her new album, everything since Evermore was released, sounds like one long note or song. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 15:37) this is a reply to message 106,285

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,285) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I have never understood the Swift obsession, she barley sings (it's almost all sing-talking), she's a bully, and the definition of rich kid who's parents could buy her a career, she never gets called out of her white privilege. New York Times had an article about Taylor Swift fatigue and it had this great line: "Indeed, grinding through the 31-song double album after midnight had felt like a hostage situation." I couldn't have said it better myself. Lol. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 01:18)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,288) by Tevin from USA Perfect way to put it Mimi L. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 15:34) this is a reply to message 106,286

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,286) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I've come to accept that Mariah won't have another big era. Let alone anything remotely close to TEOM. She no longer has the drive or hunger to prove herself and that's not bashing her, it's just the circumstance. Back then she had the fire because she was still young and people had written her off and disposed of her all because her ex husband decided to be messy. She had to reclaim her throne. Now she's settled into her legend status, she has her 2 babies, she is earning a lot from touring. She has nothing left to prove so she won't go as hard. Plus the promo aspect. Nowadays promo is everything. People have short attention spans and you gotta really set yourself apart by doing creative promo and I don't think Mariah has that team. In fact we don't known who her team is. Even her social media is not at the level of someone of her status. I was living in delulu land for a while hoping for one last hurrah haha but I think I have now accepted this is the new reality of icon. If she does prove me wrong I would be the happiest but I doubt it. I just hope she's mentally in a good space and we get the chance to enjoy some new material when she's ready. Whether it's an album or collabs. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 05:22)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,287) by Robert-Anthony from United States Something deep down inside of me wants that new album experience again. You know when we hear MC has a new album coming out and all of the excitement that goes along with it. I just need to experience that one more time. MC settled into her legend status way too soon for me. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 12:30) this is a reply to message 106,286

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,286) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I've come to accept that Mariah won't have another big era. Let alone anything remotely close to TEOM. She no longer has the drive or hunger to prove herself and that's not bashing her, it's just the circumstance. Back then she had the fire because she was still young and people had written her off and disposed of her all because her ex husband decided to be messy. She had to reclaim her throne. Now she's settled into her legend status, she has her 2 babies, she is earning a lot from touring. She has nothing left to prove so she won't go as hard. Plus the promo aspect. Nowadays promo is everything. People have short attention spans and you gotta really set yourself apart by doing creative promo and I don't think Mariah has that team. In fact we don't known who her team is. Even her social media is not at the level of someone of her status. I was living in delulu land for a while hoping for one last hurrah haha but I think I have now accepted this is the new reality of icon. If she does prove me wrong I would be the happiest but I doubt it. I just hope she's mentally in a good space and we get the chance to enjoy some new material when she's ready. Whether it's an album or collabs. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 05:22)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,286) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I've come to accept that Mariah won't have another big era. Let alone anything remotely close to TEOM. She no longer has the drive or hunger to prove herself and that's not bashing her, it's just the circumstance. Back then she had the fire because she was still young and people had written her off and disposed of her all because her ex husband decided to be messy. She had to reclaim her throne. Now she's settled into her legend status, she has her 2 babies, she is earning a lot from touring. She has nothing left to prove so she won't go as hard. Plus the promo aspect. Nowadays promo is everything. People have short attention spans and you gotta really set yourself apart by doing creative promo and I don't think Mariah has that team. In fact we don't known who her team is. Even her social media is not at the level of someone of her status. I was living in delulu land for a while hoping for one last hurrah haha but I think I have now accepted this is the new reality of icon. If she does prove me wrong I would be the happiest but I doubt it. I just hope she's mentally in a good space and we get the chance to enjoy some new material when she's ready. Whether it's an album or collabs. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 05:22) this is a reply to message 106,284

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,284) by Robert-Anthony from United States It has been a great discussion this week about Taylor and insight into this whole Swifty phenonenon. We can't deny Taylor is riding high off roads paved from our true trailblazer and trendsetter MC. I am really ready for Mimi to comeback one last time with her most successful album since TEOM. I know she has at least one more left in her. Where are you Mike Will Made It? Mimi needs you again. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 00:23)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,285) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I have never understood the Swift obsession, she barley sings (it's almost all sing-talking), she's a bully, and the definition of rich kid who's parents could buy her a career, she never gets called out of her white privilege. New York Times had an article about Taylor Swift fatigue and it had this great line: "Indeed, grinding through the 31-song double album after midnight had felt like a hostage situation." I couldn't have said it better myself. Lol. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 01:18) this is a reply to message 106,284

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,284) by Robert-Anthony from United States It has been a great discussion this week about Taylor and insight into this whole Swifty phenonenon. We can't deny Taylor is riding high off roads paved from our true trailblazer and trendsetter MC. I am really ready for Mimi to comeback one last time with her most successful album since TEOM. I know she has at least one more left in her. Where are you Mike Will Made It? Mimi needs you again. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 00:23)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,284) by Robert-Anthony from United States It has been a great discussion this week about Taylor and insight into this whole Swifty phenonenon. We can't deny Taylor is riding high off roads paved from our true trailblazer and trendsetter MC. I am really ready for Mimi to comeback one last time with her most successful album since TEOM. I know she has at least one more left in her. Where are you Mike Will Made It? Mimi needs you again. (Thursday 25 April 2024; 00:23) this is a reply to message 106,283

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,283) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Hahaha you know being a lamb I pay extra attention to lyrics. Yes, I know the interview you are talking about, it was a few years back when her career was going through a decline. I agree most artists try to maximize their gains at their peak and yes Mariah used to release albums almost every year for the first 5 years and every 2-3 years after that, but no artist released as much as Taylor did in the last 2 years. 2 re-recordings, 2 new albums and a tour. Also hard launching her relation with Kelce haha. I'm reading many articles where people are saying it's too much too soon. (Wednesday 24 April 2024; 20:26)

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,283) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Hahaha you know being a lamb I pay extra attention to lyrics. Yes, I know the interview you are talking about, it was a few years back when her career was going through a decline. I agree most artists try to maximize their gains at their peak and yes Mariah used to release albums almost every year for the first 5 years and every 2-3 years after that, but no artist released as much as Taylor did in the last 2 years. 2 re-recordings, 2 new albums and a tour. Also hard launching her relation with Kelce haha. I'm reading many articles where people are saying it's too much too soon. (Wednesday 24 April 2024; 20:26) this is a reply to message 106,282

A Daydream release in 2024 (106,282) by Shezz from Pk Haha Mimi L has been paying attention to Taylor's lyrics. To be honest I quite liked Folklore and Evermore. Midnights grew on me. All the songs on this album are pleasant but tend to blur into one long two hour song. I read an interview of her's (Taylor) recently where she said she knows her years are numbered now that she's crossed 30 and she wants to work as hard as possible and create as much music as she can while she's still popular. I didn't quite know how to feel about that. On one hand I appreciated her awareness, on the other hand I felt like she's making herself into the fast food equivalent of music. Of course every artist wants success and thrives on it but it felt like commercial success is paramount to her before all. Which then lead me to think this was Mariah in the 90s. She created the most albums, most regularly while she was commercially successful. When they stopped selling as much, she slowed down majorly. I suppose that's human nature (and business). (Wednesday 24 April 2024; 18:45)

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