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Lip sync, dubbing, bad editing (38,014) by Joe from United Kingdom

I didn't think the AI performance was terrible. To people claiming she lip sync the entire performance, not true, to those saying she sang the entire thing live, also not true. As a die hard lamb I can tell what's lipped/live. She lip sync a couple notes here and there, this is nothing new. This is one of those rare times she got caught out and then when it was live the dubbing was just generally off. If she did a complete live/raw performance and sounded off on a couple notes, she'd be crucified by the media so she can't win either way. Just my thoughts on the subject. Now I'm just ready and looking forward to seeing Mariah at GMA.

(Friday 24 May 2013; 3:35)

Joe from the UK (38,013) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada

I just wanted to say hello. I hope you enjoy it here. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts and opinions.

(Friday 24 May 2013; 0:28)

Final thought on alleged lip sync (38,012) by RadChad from United States

You believing she lipped her Idol performance is still your opinion, unless you were there playing the song back for her yourself, she comes out and say it, or her camp confirms it. Otherwise I will stick to my opinion of it being a dubbed live vocals. And this is just my opinion, even if she did lipped her performance, it's forgivable. She wouldn't be the only one to do it. Many individuals love to sit on their high horses act overtly entitled to crucify, but I'm sure you all have let someone down or not lived up to the expectations of someone or something in life. So yes it's okay to be disappointed and express that, but eventually get over it, get over your feelings because no one's perfect, we're all human, make mistakes and disappoint people sometimes. Let it go.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 22:49)

#Beautiful on BET's 106&Park (38,011) by tobby from canada

Hey everyone, it's crucial to get Mariah's new video on the BET nightly countdown. It will increase awareness and sales and make the song a bigger hit then it's already become. Mariah's lead singles always make the big countdowns, let's keep the the trend going. Voting is so easy. Thanks everybody! http://www.bet.com/shows/106-and-park/106-park-voting.html
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 22:22)

Monroe (38,010) by RibbonB from USA

Jenny, I totally agree. She is absolutely gorgeous. And Roc is totally handsome too. What a treat to finally see them interacting with dem puppies. Mariah loves her Jacks, so it's nice to see that they will probably follow in their mommy's footsteps as Jack aficianados. Now, if we can get a photo of Roe walking one of the doggies, I would just be tickled pink.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 22:04)

Raw ballads (38,009) by Brandon from USA

I really hope the ballads are not MC and JD trying to make the next WBT. They tried to recreate that with varied results on E=MC2. The One from Charmbracelet is one of my all time favorite MC and JD songs. Personally, I think they are better at the mid tempo.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 21:28)

I'm just glad Idol is over (38,008) by jaker20 from US

I just hope MC does not come back to that cheap show, where almost everything is staged and faked for television that even Nick Cannon is complaining why his wife got involved in it. I'm sure the Cannons have learned their lesson. I hope this teaches MC a lesson not to come back to that cheap show. To me, you can put bells and whistles, make the queen of England sing there, its still cheap. I don't know anyone who listens to great music watches that show, and from what I have read here a year ago when MC was announced to judge, I'm pretty sure few here watched it before MC joined. So if you enjoyed it, good for you. lol. Hey to each his own. I didn't watch the show by the way. I only saw MC's finale performance. IMO, AI represents everything that is wrong about current state of the music industry and celebrity, but that's another discussion. Manufactured instant popularity. Oh well, I'm just glad it's over. Great singer from AI? Lol. I'll give you a couple of good singers from that show, they're hardly great. Great singers doesn't mean anything anymore in the world of AI, they brand anyone "great" to pat their relevance in the industry. Remnants of Simon Cowell's character. I find it funny that some people claim they work on audio when they clearly don't understand the difference between lip and dubbed, then present their opinion as fact. Such ego. Oh well, the stuff of internet claims. I'm just glad #Beautiful is doing well. Lol.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 21:19)

Re: Geronimo, Anthony, and Samuel (38,007) by nikki from usa

Thumbs up, great posts. Tickets were available for Mariah's live performance the day before AI. She sang the medley 3 times and AI could've just chosen the best one, but instead they cut and pasted all 3 like a Frankenstein's project. Their production was awful. Since there were real live fans there, you can go on YouTube and hear her voice live. They weren't supposed to bring things in there, so there's no visual, but you can hear her if you type this into YouTube's engine. A fan posted this from her live event. Mariah Carey Medley - May 2013 (live taping - take 1 of 3). This was much better than what AI showed, which is why I say I still think they're mad about that 18 million.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 20:59)

Raw ballads (38,006) by Geronimo from USA

I'm looking forward to this album, because it seems like Mariah is having the kind of creative streak Lauryn Hill mentioned having during the making of Miseducation. I really hope, however, that by "raw" ballads she means songs that have straight-forward melodies, unobscured by ornate production and background vocal harmonies, that easily translate into powerful live performances.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 14:45)

The whole debate (38,005) by Lyric from USA

What bothers me is the fact that Mariah's voice has deteriorated to the point where she has no faith in her live singing capabilities. I may be ignorant on the issue, but why does her performance need to be "dubbed" if she is in top vocal shape? This will be an unpopular opinion, but I think Mariah needs a vocal coach. She is becoming a studio vocalist and she has lost her stage presence as well. She seems so uncomfortable on stage. I should be used to Mariah's new singing style, but she never uses her vibrato or melisma any longer, so I'm forced to believe she's just not capable. I want the best for Mariah and I find myself being so critical because she is one of my favorite vocalists. I'm not asking for 90s vocal gymnastics, but I hope the new album has more than whisper vocals and strained belting. Beautiful is a refreshing song and I want to see it do really well.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 12:38)

Samuel (38,004) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

I suggest you re-read my posts. I've never said I expected a spellbinding performance. I simply stated that Mariah should give an honest performance, and either accepts the limitations of her voice or does something about it. If you or anyone disagrees with my opinion, then I suggest you get over it and move on. It's not a statement of fact, just my opinion. If I'm talking smack, then it shouldn't be too hard for you or anyone else to accept. With regards to her recording deal, you'd have a good point if it wasn't for the cheque cut for the radio and Joseph Khan being hired for the video. IDJ definitely expect a return on that investment, as it is business after all. I agree that IDJ were very slack with MOAIA promotion. However, I think that was more to do with the fact that they didn't like the music and were still mad at Mariah for (quite rightly) abandoning E=MC2, when they had invested so much. Also, despite an industry bias with women over 40, record companies seem to invest money in Madonna and J.Lo, expecting a return. I see Mariah as no different. In any event, this is the last I'm going to say on the matter, as I've just expressed an opinion. I've not been abusive to Mariah, as suggested by others. In fact, I'd say the response from some people towards me here have more so bordered on abusive. If people think what I've said is so ridiculous, then they shouldn't get so worked up over it. Clearly, I've touched a nerve. That's all I'm going to say on the matter.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 12:33)

Monroe (38,003) by Jenny from South Africa

I just adore the pic MC tweeted with Roe and the puppy. She is becoming such a beautiful child. Her hair with the ribbon is just too cute.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 10:52)

Fans or critics (38,002) by Dossome from U.S.A

1990 - Mariah Carey
1991 - Emotions
1992 - MTV Unplugged
1993 - Music Box
1994 - Merry Xmas
1996 - Daydrdam
1997 - Butterfly
1998 - #1s
1999 - Rainbow
That's nine albums in 10 years and bear in mind she had to co-write and co-produce her music in addition to singing lead and background vocals. I agree as fans we want the best from our idol, but Mariah has given us more than any other singer has given her fans. Cut her some slack jeez. Sometimes I think lambs are very ungrateful at times. You go from demanding the "90s Mariah" back to criticizing her for marrying Nick Cannon. Hey, MC can retire today if she feels like. If you're not satisfied with everything she has given you and always see the need to demand for more, then you'll never be satisfied at all. At this stage in her career, the best we can do is appreciate that she still has the will to keep doing this. I see Whitney fans still mourning her death and here we are always saying what she should do "better", with some fan saying "I'm tired of defending Mariah everytime".
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 9:55)

The truth (38,000) by Dionne005 from USA

Ok, lets get this clear, it is not my opinion that Mariah lip sync one of her songs, it's a clear fact. And it's obvious to me that some of you can't tell, because you all are going by what you see instead of hear. It's about what you hear, not see. Maybe you all should try to close your eyes and actually listen to her instead of being lost in all that glitter and glam. It's funny because before I came here, I watched and listened to the performance and I was like, oh my goodness, she is going to get smashed by critics because she just lipped a part of the song. See I didn't "need" the internet to tell me that this mayhave been faked, I knew from my own ears. Like I said, I do not believe Mariah faked it because she couldn't do it, I think it's because it was an awkward start for her to come in on the song Beautiful. She literally divedright in and it sounded drastically different from the actual live performance. Also there was less heavy breathing in the song Beautiful. In the other performance you can hear her take deep breaths. When you listen to most cds, an engineer most of the time edits out the breathing on the track. They can literally go to the audio file and chop it out. That's what happened here. As a person that works on sound I can tell. Also I find it comical how some of you call American Idol cheap when all of the greatest singers have been on this show. It's funny. I bet all of you that call it cheap have never watched it fully. At least 1 season. So you guys say the show is cheap. I guess that makes Aretha Franklin singing on the show cheap too? She didn't lip sync. Wasn't Stevie on from one performance? Mariah Carey going on that show helped her and you all are too proud to say it. It's ok. The show had over 12 million people watching and I'm sure that will be a lot more than GMA audience. No one I know especially of my age watch GMA. No one is up that early and not everyone got a recording device. I'm not being mean, I'm being truthful. The only time I have ever accepted a fake performance was when Beyonce performed her song called Get Me Bodied and she was dancing in extra high heels real fast. Singing the same time would have been impossible. Mariah on the other hand was just standing still. Mariah should have known better than to sing fake after seeing Beyonce fake the national Anthem and how they dogged her. When I heard that, I was happy, because I knew for sure that Mariah wasn't going to lip sync anymore, because of the now close watch. I guess I was wrong.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 9:38)

Joe UK, I'm new here (37,999) by Joe from United Kingdom

Hello to all the lambs. I've been reading this message board for awhile now, I just didn't think to become a member or post anything. I don't know why. Anyway hi everybody, I'm new here.

(Thursday 23 May 2013; 5:51)

Stephen, Jimbo, Edward and others (37,998) by Stacey from USA

Well said. It's really sad that fans can't express their opinions and simply leave it at that. Know what I mean? Edward, thank you for your kind words. I always enjoy your posts too. And BTW, you're going to find fans at any artist messageboards who dislike a song, video, etc. MC's boards are no different. Anyway, glad to see Beautiful climbing the charts. Hopefully the GMA performance is spot on and helps the song even more.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 3:04)

Stephen and Stacey (37,996) by Samuel from England

No Stephen, I'm not missing anything, certainly not in this instance. The aim of my previous posts exemplified the fact that a lot of fans have this sense of "entitlement"' to receive these incredible spellbinding performances which in reality have not been achieved by her since the year 2004 (subjectively). So your argument to state that the point of a record deal means the artist is obliged to sell "a lot" is flawed. Many artists nowadays do not have significant singing abilities and some do not even sell a lot. Vintage artists like Mariah are not expected by their labels to prove themselves further with big sellers, partly due to age which often translates to them not being the labels main focus anymore. Evidence of them not promoting her last two albums are so evident you'd have to be blind not to realize, should we discuss the promo of Memoirs compared to Rihanna's Rater R? Whether or not record deals are for making profit or not, that should not interfere with her own personal stage attributes and qualities. I'm well aware that many are not familiar with her vintage material, but that does not stop here from being the biggest selling female recording artist of the Nielsen SoundScan era. At the end of the day Stephen, I'm sure if she could give us those spellbinding performances she would. We do not know the woman on a personal level, so I'm not going to assume that she should "give" us this type of performance that some request. May I also add, I feel that as Mariah fans, we actaully should comment on her performances, but I don't know if anyone else feels like this, but it's just irritating to see fans act as if they know her personally or the damage that she has sustained on her voice. Just enjoy and appreciate her for what she is and what she has done a little more. If I was here and saw all these messages, I'd just feel a bit tired and hopeless that I see soo much negativity on what I can offer now, despite all I have given to you all before, if you know what I mean? Lol.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 1:03)

Edward, TJ (37,995) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

I remember those days. For some reason, even though I am based in the UK, I think I was of the US opinion on those arguments. Looking back, that was actually hilarious. Was it Maria or Mary from the UK? It would be cool if she returned lol.
(Thursday 23 May 2013; 0:02)

TJ, #Beautiful on the charts (37,992) by Edward from USA

TJ, I remember you were one of the UK gang

, thank heavens you survived the inquisition. I also miss Maria from the UK, she was always on point. She knew she loved Maria and her music, but she also wanted quality and expressed it. As for #Beautiful, it has been on the top 20 on iTunes, it goes up and down, but it has been lingering mostly in the top 16. As of now it's sitting #Beautifully at no. 19. I'll contact you on WhatsApp right after the GMA show to give you details.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 23:35)

A proud fool (37,991) by Anthony Early from Wales

I truly believe Mariah sang live on AI and to those who have expressed disbelief and annoyance at those few who "dare" to criticise Mariah I say: good for you. It's popular these days to be a critic, a hyper analyst and a nay-sayer and to those who don't board the popularist train, I applaud you. As someone else said, Whitney, as talented as she was, broke down vocally before she died, but Mariah, a healthy and active idol of 23 years, is not standing down and is continuing to defy those who doubt her. It's a victory for the true fans, and anyone else, I'll see you in 2102. God bless.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 23:17)

#Beautiful Explicit (37,990) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada

For those having trouble finding it on iTunes, it comes up when you refine your search criteria by release date. If you just do a regular search, only the clean version comes up. Hope that helps.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 22:32)

Edward and Jimbo (37,989) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

Very well said. I concur.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 22:14)

Regards and respect (37,987) by RadChad from United States

Okay, so everyone has a right to express their honest opinion, be it good or bad. I understand (as a fan since 1990) I'm critical or her voice and presentation as well, but I'm saying there's a line that definitely needs to be drawn. At the end of the day we're all suppose to have a certain level of respect for Mariah, because whether you feel she still needs to prove herself to the general public or not, she has already proven herself to us. If you call yourself a true fan apart of that is maintaining a certain level of regards, because in reality she can scrap this album tomorrow and still go down in history as one of the best that ever did it regardless (shot voice, lipping dubbing whatever). Out of all the major fan bases I've run across, I haven't quite witness the level of disregard I've witness on this board. I mean Whitney Houston could've sounded like a bull frog on stage and her fans would still regard her as the best who ever did it regardless of how and why her voice is shot, but here we have people saying the "suppose to be the voice" or "so called voice" really fan?

Nicki Minaj fans held her down whether she was wrong as two left shoes or not, they were still in her corner. Yet here you have people siding with Nicki over MC

. Beyonce fans so on and so forth. So don't be overly defensive when a fellow fan pull your coat tail to say "hey, alright now, you're going a bit too far", because that's what's gonna happen when you get wreck-less with your delivery. There is a way to express your true feelings on here without it coming across as borderline disrespectful and disparaging. Sometimes you really need to check yourself and remember who you are talking about. Because, it really becomes a shame when the general public appears to have more respect and regards for you than you own fans.

(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 22:11)

Edward (37,986) by TJ from Norway

I was kind of a part of the "UK gang" even if I am a Norwegian. It was very funny. I miss Maria from the UK (remember her?). I just hope Mariah does a good job on GMA. I hope they start promote this single like they did with the whole TEOM album and singles in 2005. Anyone who knows how #Beautiful is doing on the charts?
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 21:42)

Edward #Beautiful explicit version (37,985) by Gilbert from USA

Hi Edward, after I refreshed the search I later found it. I figured the # is what I knew he was really saying before the explicit version came out, but I have both versions now.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 21:38)

#Beautiful went up again! (37,984) by jaker20 from US

Yes. Another top 20 for MC. Hey chart, it's been a long time. Lol. Rise MC rise. I definitely think this song is a grower.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 21:29)

Some of you went a little too far (37,983) by jaker20 from US

Some of you who went on and on and on your negative parade while the rest of us who enjoyed the AI performance watch here on the sideline. Someone even label us being deaf and another needing to buy new tv, because we can't see that she lipped. How arrogant some of you are for trying to convince us. I love the performance and you can't change it. It's still her voice. Live, lipped, dubbed, still her beautiful voice. Why do you care so much about this cheap show? I don't want her to be on Idol anyway. I always said I want her to leave that silly, fake, irrelevant, sinking ratings, and corny singing show. I don't get why you guys hold it on such high esteem that she has to sing there live. Because she's a judge? Lol. She's a judge because she was paid 20 million plus publicity, increasing her market value, otherwise, she wouldn't touch that show with a ten foot pole. I'd rather her save her voice, and produce more great songs albeit in the studio for many years, than one great performance in that cheap show. She had a great one with Fallon, you all forgot that already? MC is still making great music because she saves her assets and not full blast it all the time like she use to on a weekly basis. She gets more selective as time goes on, while few to none of her contemporaries are as relevant as her because they completely lost it. Anyway, beating the dead horse. Just enjoy #Beautiful. Great song. Not enough space 1730 letters ugh.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 21:23)

Hahaha (37,982) by Anthony Early from Wales

I enjoy the folks who implore that those who don't express their unhappiness at Mariah enough as worshippers. Brilliant. I have often times criticised her and the direction(s) she is taking; this time I am simply standing up for what I believe to be injustice. Anyway, good job Mariah, I don't and never have agreed with everything you do, but from what I've heard very recently, you are still worthy of my adoration as the best vocalist and one of the most incredible artists ever. Please don't inhale poisonous breaths; constructive and observational criticism considered, you are the one that I love, now and always, as an artist. On a personal note, to others, I am passionate about the things that I love, and passion, in my opinion, makes the world go round. Congrats to Mariah on an illustrious, difficult yet rewarding well deserved 23 years. I ain't going nowhere.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 21:05)

Stephen, Stacy, Jimbo and others / #Beautiful (Explicit) (37,981) by Edward from USA

Stephen, Stacy, Jimbo and those other posters who dare to express their opinions here when they may not be well liked, I do really appreciate you. I think you guys bring balance to this messageboard and I've not doubt you love Mariah. I remember those days when there was supposed to be the UK gang against the the US gang on this board, it was hilarious.

. Gilbert, I got my #Beautiful (Explicit) from iTunes yesterday. I would send it to you if you buy an extra copy of #Beautiful (clean) which would be the same as if you bought the explicit version, just to be fair to Mariah. Guys, remember to stream the video on Vevo, it's free and it counts towards Billboard final numbers.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 20:18)

Ahah (37,980) by Geraldine from Switzerland

How smart she is, keeping the explicite version under her sleeve and then releasing it to get extra download lol. Mariah may be judged, criticised or praised sometimes wrongly or rightly, but at least she left nobody unaffected. She is the one who holds the reins of her career, so whatever the good or bad moves she makes, at the end of the day she is the one who will get the benefits or pay the price.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 20:00)

American Idol lip sync scandal (37,979) by Marcos from Brazil

I kinda liked the lip sync scandal, because now Mariah knows that everybody knows she lip syncs and maybe from now on she will be more careful in her performances and will deliver us something real. I've been observing her TV and concert performances since 2005 and, though she sings most of the songs live, she almost always lips the high notes and whistles parts. And lipping is so out of date. Nowadays even bad singers are singing live, Katy Perry and Selena Gomez are examples of that. I really don't care if she can't hit all the high notes like she did before or if her voice is not the same but, c'mon, she's one of the best singers out there and I don't think it's too much to give us something real with what her voice can provide. No more pre-recorded vocals, she don't need to be perfect. Let's see how her GMA performances will be.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 19:53)

Wow (37,978) by Jimbo from UK

The posts on this forum are getting a little abusive. If someone wants to "whine" about something Mariah related, so be it, let them. It can't be disturbing you that much and you can always ignore the post. The forum should be inclusive. Let's not bully one another. Be nice or leave. Any lamb recognise that phrase?
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 19:28)

Family / butterflies, unicorns and rainbows (37,977) by Edward from USA

I consider the messageboard like a family, and family don't usually agree on everything. My mother used to say, I can say something about my kids, but I can do that, because I am part of this family. Some of us express our concern about Mariah, but to fellow members of the messageboard family, never outside. Some people here want us to be like all the yes people Mariah has always had in her life, those who were afraid to say they didn't like a single choice or a certain decision just because she was Mariah Carey. People forget that Mariah sells a product which is her artistry through her biggest asset which is her voice. We've been buying that product as fans for a long time, even when the product wasn't up to her own standards. So to come here and suggest that we should just take the product and fly away like butterfly whether it is good or bad is insane. When people complain, something is usually done to correct the problem, but if we just sit here among butterflies, rainbows and unicorns, pretending everything is perfect, nothing will be done about it. Some of us express our frustrations because we love Mariah and her music. So, after the Idol dubbed mess brought up, we'll most likely see an improvement on GMA on Friday. You are not excused to produce a table with only one leg because you've been making great four-legged tables for 20 years.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 19:14)

Will (37,976) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

Yea, the reaction to #Beautiful has been great so far. People are genuinely feeling the song, with absolutely no promotion. It's been added to A playlist on Choice FM and I think Kiss FM too. I even heard it in the gym, and I haven't heard a Mariah song in the gym since TMB. It's been increasing in sales for a number of weeks, and is sitting in the top 20 on iTunes. This is a big impact for Mariah in the UK, and bodes well for the album.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 18:27)

Stacey (37,975) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

Thank you. However, you know how it is here. If you don't constantly worship Mariah, even when it's undue, you're somehow not a fan or you're being "nasty". Utterly ridiculous. I've not said anything that isn't more than an opinion, and nothing I'd consider nasty. You know me, I'll call a spade a spade, and I'm happy to express that. If people don't like it, then I don't care. It's just an opinion. I never said it was fact. My writing stye may be persuasive or quite forthright, but that's just how I write. I've never stated that what I'm saying is the Bible. People on here really need to get some perspective. Anyways, back to what it's all about *plays #Beautiful*.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 18:17)

Geronimo (37,974) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

Your post doesn't even make sense to me, so I have nothing further to say.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 17:56)

Don't kill my vibe (37,973) by Geronimo from USA

Be intelligent and responsible. Make a distinction between lip-syncing and network dubbing and then get on with life. And stop killing the vibe on this board whining about what you, of all people, think Mariah Carey should be doing or sounding like at this point in her career. If you are still upset because you think, despite all evidence and eye witness reports, that Mariah Carey cannot sing anymore and cannot give an honest performance, you are not a serious person and should be quiet for a while until you can bring more intelligent conversation. Mariah Carey is a recording artist and a decent performer, not the goddess of your personal cult, Stephen.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 17:03)

Stephen / AI performance (37,972) by Stacey from USA

Stephen, preach my friend preach. Your last two posts to Anthony and Samuel were shear perfection. Look, as far as the whole lipping thing goes, it doesn't bother me if she lipped some or all of the AI performance. Singers have been doing this for a long time, Mariah included. I went to the last concert on the CB tour and I can guarantee you many parts of that concert were lipped. It's ok. I'd lip at the end of a major tour too, lol. I didn't care. I was so happy to be dead center 15 rows back. My issue with the AI performance was how bad the editing/dubbing was. It was so obvious, it was bad. And on a major stage like AI where younger fans are watching, folks like Stephen said who don't know her very well, a performance like that could be a deal breaker. Maybe it won't hurt her. Only time will tell. When you are promoting the lead single to a new album, you have to bring your "A-game". I hope she brings that "A-game" to GMA this Friday.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 16:24)

If you were referring to me (37,971) by Anthony Early from Wales

As juvenile, please don't. Please get down off your high horse and don't tell me how to spend my time. I'm irritated by you and wanted to express that. I have now. No, I don't want a row. And don't mistake raising an objection to you as juvenile. Finally, now I know where you stand, I'll know to pass over your posts.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 14:19)

Anthony Early (37,970) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

Firstly, I'm not constantly negative. Please see my comments re #Beautiful and it's accompanying video. I was praising both. Re the voice, you hit the nail on the head, it's my opinion, and that's all. Perhaps you should focus less energy on something that's merely an opinion, and do something more productive with it. I'm not going to sit here and defend myself as a fan to you. I've been on this message board since 1902, and have always expressed concern over the state of Mariah's voice. This is nothing new. Whether or not that makes me a fan of Mariah, I'm afraid I'll be the judge of that and not you. Just because I express an opinion that you don't agree with, that doesn't make it any less valid. I'm not going to discuss the matter any further with you, as I know you can't reason with the juvenile. You already said that you don't want to get into arguments with people online, and you're right, it's unnecessary. I merely expressed an opinion. If you don't agree with it, don't get worked up over it. I'm merely exercising my freedom of expression, which I have been doing so since 1902, and will continue to do so here. Peace.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 13:35)

I see hypocrite people pretending to be Mariah's people (37,969) by Zachary from Croatia

I don't write very often on this site, but when I feel that something has to be said, I will say it. I see a lot commentary about her alleged lip singing and etc. Just a few months ago she nailed her performance during Christmas songs and everyone were talking how she still got it and her voice is amazing and bla bla bla. Somehow I doubt that she lost her voice in matters of months. Give her a break: the performance was a part of a huge show and, ok, if she had a little help, fine. She wanted to sound great and she did. I personally think that she only had a back up track in Beautiful with Miguel´s voice along. Do not hate, support. Greetings from Croatia. Zachary.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 12:43)

Stephen (37,968) by Anthony Early from Wales

I'm fed up of you saying she can't sing like it's now fact. It isn't. It's your opinion. And your constant negativity, which is coming close to the mark as nastiness, is draining. I agree with Samuel. I never argue on the net, but this board over the past week has infuriated me to the point where I too feel the need to speak out. Mariah has done some of her most incredible live performances well after 1997 (in my opinion). And the fact you have to mention 1997 Stephen speaks volumes. I don't think you're a fan of her voice anymore. I'm not debating whether you're a fan or not, because I don't know and frankly I don't think she needs "fans" like you, but constant criticism and the 1997 thing really suggests you're no longer a fan of her voice now. I apologise if I come across as annoyed, but I genuinely really am.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 11:54)

The UK (37,967) by Will from England

For a Mariah song, I'm surprised yet very pleased, that #Beautiful is remaining consistent on the UK iTunes and Official Singles charts. It's been quite happy in the Top 20s and jumping 12 places to be in the Top 30 songs, in both respective charts. And without any promo. That's pretty good for Mariah.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 9:11)

Edward (37,966) by Gilbert from USA

Where did you find this explicit download? I searched iTunes and I only see the version which I already downloaded.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 2:28)

Samuel (37,965) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom

I'm afraid I'm not missing any point. Mariah has been in the business for 23 years, and in terms of her legacy, she has nothing to prove, she's done it all. However, if she wants to release new material, and actually sell that to a mass audience, which is clearly the point of her having a record deal, then I'm afraid she has everything to prove. There is a whole generation of fans who don't have a clue who she is, or even care that prior to 1997 she was able to saaang. They also don't give a flying hoot about how many records she's sold. To them and most of the public at large, that's irrelevant. In this day and age, that counts for nothing. When you are singing on stage, on a platform as big as American Idol, where you are critiquing contestants vocal performances as a judge, I think the least you can do is actually sing the complete performance live. People expect that. A new generation of the public expect it. She has something to prove to them. She also has something to prove to her long standing fans. Why should we not expect the supposed "voice" to sing live? It's not like we're her fans for her amazing dance routines. It's the voice. That's the point of Mariah Carey, and if you don't get that, then I'm afraid that it's you who is missing the point.
(Wednesday 22 May 2013; 2:10)

#Beautiful (Explicit) now on iTunes (37,964) by Edward from USA

I just downloaded my copy of #Beautiful (Explicit) from iTunes, and I have to say that I like it better than the clean version. Now the # makes sense to me. I also have to agree that #Beautiful is the best lead single Mariah has released since Fantasy. I would love a slightly longer version of the song, and some good remixes. But I think she should wait for #Beautiful to reach the top 10 before she releases any variation of the song, that way the chances to reach the top spot would be greatly increased. I can't wait for the GMA performance on Friday. Since airplay has been consistently increasing and sales have been steady, I can easily see #Beautiful in the top 15 on the next Billboard release. At this point I think they must already have the next single ready. I am really excited about the new album.
(Tuesday 21 May 2013; 23:55)

I just can't anymore (37,963) by Samuel from England

I can't remember the last time I felt like I wanted to engage in a online disagreement than right now. I just scroll and see people's comments like Stephen's and they just miss the whole point. If Mariah released Beautiful and decided she doesn't even want to perform it or just lypsync it, it really doesn't matter at this stage of her life. I'll say it once again, Mariah has nothing left to prove. Fans are here still discussing her only because she has chosen to keep giving the fans a little music here and there but she is under no obligation to "come back with a hard new era" or "get serious". We're lucky she's still singing at all. You want to criticize artists and judge them, then go to Katy Perry or Nicki fan sites because they are early on in their careers. Mariah has been going since 1990. People need to chill, it's not that serious geez. Mariah if you are reading this, I just want to say I appreciate you and thanks for still making music, because at the end of the day, I know you don't have to.
(Tuesday 21 May 2013; 23:30)

Mariah live (37,962) by Jimbo from UK

I agree with the sentiment other users have already expressed. Why can't Mariah just give one "honest" performance. No more dubbing, no more singing along to a backing track, no more earpiece excuses. It's frustrating. I'm sure we all fell in love with Mariah's voice before anything else she had to offer. Remember the early performances of Vanishing? And I still love her voice, I just wish she would be honest during her performances. I'm tired of seeing a nervous, insecure singer on stage, scared to use that instrument that made her into the superstar she is today, because she's lost all confidence in its ability. She's a legend. Her voice is the most unique and beautiful sound I've ever heard. It has a dreamy richness, and a tone that is so distinctive you know immediately who is singing. There must be some way to repair it, surgery or vocal exercises?
(Tuesday 21 May 2013; 22:52)

Che (37,961) by RibbonB from USA

Lol. I have been thinking the same thing for days now. People get all caught up that they ignore what's right in their faces. They should believe the real, raw footage, not the recorded, edited footage, which is distorted. Lol. MC could be speaking with someone right in their face and someone would say she lipped it.
(Tuesday 21 May 2013; 21:43)

She wrote the songs (37,960) by Brandon from USA

Mariah has written #17 1's. And she has proven yet again that she can still write an excellent pop song. #Beautiful in my opinion is her best lead single since Fantasy. She's written the song of the summer. It sounds beautiful on the radio.
(Tuesday 21 May 2013; 18:08)