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My MC 2015 fantasy wish list (48,007) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
(Saturday 22 November 2014; 3:07)

"We've been hearing about things that either never come to fruition, get sabotaged or don't get promoted for decades now. So just for fun I'm putting together a lil list of all the things I wish are gonna be Mariah's big announcement for 2015 and or beyond.

1. A European residency in London to celebrate her 25th anniversary.
2. Carbonated Butterfly drink released internationally using Thirsty as promo.
3. An annual Christmas Broadway show written and produced by MC.
4. The Bond theme, performed, written and produced by MC and a cameo role on screen. I think Bianca needs to dust off her wig for this one.
5.The debut album re-released with the original demos, live performances and unleseased tracks or remixes.
6. An autobiography, maybe as a three-part book series? Childhood - The Sony years - Post Glitter.
7. A cable miniseries about her life using the books as a template.
8. Crave Records 2.0 and an HBO tv documentary chronicling the journey of MC mentoring new artists and maybe giving forgotten one's a new chance.
9. A Christmas movie produced and written by MC with old and new music where she plays at least one of the characters.
10. A DVD to commemorate her 18 US #1's with video commentary on every song and how it came to be from inception to charting. Also, funny anecdotes in the bonus features and guest appearances with her collaborators through the years.

What do you guys wish Mariah's big 2015 announcement will be about?"

I'm doing another wish list for 2016 so I went back to see what I posted last year. So far, I'm a pretty happy Lamb since several of the things on my wish list came true at least partially already. YAY!

Mariah Carey's opening a $20million museum (58,489) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Who's the idiot hater who concocted this Mariah Carey traveling museum story? It's obviously written to mock her very successful tours/residencies that are now for sure gonna be a big part of 2016. You guys need to learn how to read between the lines. Every word is strategically placed to make fun of Mariah on an almost (no, strike that) definitely on a personal level. This is some moron's idea of being clever. Whatever [censored], Mariah is unstoppable now that she has a genuinely happy personal life and fulfilment creatively. Team Mariah is on fire slaying dragons and saving lives. That's why reading antagonistic articles like this and [censored] posters don't really bother me. It's just proof MC is hotter than ever. Mariah just made my day, my year and my life with the Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour, coming to a continent, country and city near me. Can you all [censored] please refrain from nabbing the best seats? She's gonna be lipsynching the whole concert anyway, so why come at all? Don't waste your money, be smart, stay at home and invest in cochlear implants instead. Besides, it's much easier to keep complaining about Mariah's voice and music when you just watch 16 seconds Instagram clips. Mariah will understand and the Lambily will for sure appreciate it.
(Wednesday 16 December 2015; 15:52)
Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour (58,411) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
*squeee* I'm so excited, Mariah's finally coming to Europe on tour and to Stockholm, my neck of the woods. But you better believe I'm going to more than one show even if I have to go by myself for most of them. And who cares anyway when the Lambily is bound to show up and show out. Christmas came real early this year. Thanks for always listening MiMi. you much.
(Monday 14 December 2015; 15:49)
Fifth Harmony sings AIWFCIY: the light's bad (58,393) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
This periscope of Fifth Harmony's backstage antics at The Jingle Ball has had me rolling for days so I thought I'd share while it's still relevant. Ally lead the choir with her ethereal high notes and Mariah's impact is felt throughout with the girl's obsession with the lighting used to film them. Camila is just randomly opening her mouth this close to the camera lens. Lauren can't stop singing and Dinah makes her duck-lips even on video. In the end Normani said in the most forlorn tone ever: The light's bad. I don't understand why it's so funny but it is. Happy Holidays Lambily
(Sunday 13 December 2015; 15:00)
Re: Acting brand new (58,331) (58,357) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Not once did you compliment Mariah's many amazing performances at the inaugural Beacon shows last year. Not once. But now all of a sudden "we are Lambily". You're such a hypocrite when exactly a year ago you (on December 4th, following Rockefeller) were writing many several consecutive posts like this one: "I'm with you G. G. I'm sick of these excuses. If shaky performances were extremely rare for Mariah I would look for an outside circumstance to blame as well, but this is nothing new. There have been numerous performances that I've cringed at even when she was indoors, was in perfect health (no colds), etc. Her voice has changed. Period. I will always be a lamb, watch her interviews and performances but let's just face reality. I know that a lot of people are trying to hype up the performance because they know that when MC gives a bad performance it makes us look bad, but come on now. " At least Andrew is consistent with his posts. You were wrong for counting out Mariah like she was an old clock winding down. I told you you were wrong and you intimated that I was being condescending and elitist. I was being neither. I was just loyal and smart enough to know you never ever discount Mariah. Especially on such weak grounds, and dem grounds are always weak BTW. If Mariah responded positively to negativity then my point would be moot. But she doesn't, so why then is being loyal, consistently in Mariah's corner, rooting for her and defending her from ubiquitous attackers with sketchy motives discouraged? It's the easiest job in the world when you actually like both her music and persona. You couldn't pay me to stop even if you donated millions to my favourite charity. Last year, as you well know (because I made sure you knew) Mariah was suffering from a cold while in icy wet weather two days in a row in the midst of probable divorce drama and the painful recovery of her body from multiple debilitating injuries. You and your friends had absolutely no compassion for her at all then. Some of you don't even pretend you do now. For some reason she deserved no mercy from a so called "supporter" when so many in the GP literally everywhere with a broadband connection, WiFi and smoke signals. were having a slice of her extremely overblown minor vocal issues with the purest glee that anybody with a heart and good sense would know better than to try and use against her at her most vulnerable. Let alone a supposed "fan". There is something to be said about loyalty. That's how come you constantly end up sharing yourself while trying to unsuccessfully distance yourself from your old posts. Next thing you know, you'll be saying how you think Vegas was always such a great idea. Same script, different day.
(Saturday 12 December 2015; 7:04)
You're Mine (Choreo. Jinstar x Doo) (58,332) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
This hip-hop dance troop is amazing in seven kinds of stuffing. I especially can't believe I've never heard this innovative remix before but it might be very local seeing as all parties involved are likely based in South Korea. Not surprising since that's a big market for MiMi. Lambs are so creative, I wish we had an even bigger sense of community and ability to reach out to each other. These language barriers suck tbh. But whatever, enjoy the clip and Merry Christmas Lambily.
(Thursday 10 December 2015; 19:49)
Article: The 9 merriest moments from Mariah's Christmas show (58,305) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Mariah Carey - Oh Holy Night (live at Beacon Theatre 2015.12.08). Chills I tell you, chills upon chills. Mariah already sounds so so good and it's only opening night. Her tone is so piercingly angelic it's rediculous. I'm thoroughly wowed. I was just about to type how I hope they are documenting this but they obviously already did for the Christmas special on Hallmark airing right after A Christmas Melody. Ha. I guess a DVD release wouldn't hurt us too much either. Hint hint. Congrats on an amazing premiere last night and break a nail tonight Mimi.
(Wednesday 9 December 2015; 20:15)
New Mariah Carey TV special to follow "ACM" (58,285) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Oh Santa. Get ready for Mariah Carey's Merriest Christmas. The Grammy-winning singer stars in a new holiday special, "Mariah Carey's Merriest Christmas", airing on the Hallmark Channel at 10 p.m. Saturday, Dececember 19, immediately following the premiere of her "A Christmas Melody" movie filmed here in October. Kenny "Babyface" Edmonds, Emmy-winner Kelsey Grammer ("Frasier") and Billy Gardell ("Mike & Molly") will perform in the one-hour special. "A Christmas Melody" cast members Lacey Chabert, Brennan Elliott and Fina Strazza also will appear to share their "holiday memories and experiences from working with Mariah on-set during production of the movie", according to the Hallmark Channel release. Yay. After reading the whole article I'm beyond excited. It's like a full partnership with legs and tentacles for years and years to come with Hallmark. I could literally cry you guys. MiMi's been so good to us this year. These things make me that happy. Team Mariah better have or get a wirkdwide distribution deal secured with NBC Universal so us international Lambs can enjoy the festivities too. Are you guys so excited?
(Tuesday 8 December 2015; 23:23)
Mariah sleighs even at her worst (58,258) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Why do all these people seem to have the collective memory of a single goldfish where Mariah's live performances are concerned? She was in the hospital on a drip less than a week ago suffering from severe flu symptoms. It was all over social media, TMZ, YouTube and MCA. Yet that is somehow irrelevant when reviewing her performance with Busta Rimes on Hot For The Holidays. When is the last time any of you checked out of a hospital straight into full make-up, hair and wardrobe and performed a full set for a corporate lumber company's Christmas party and probably had to fly miles away from home to get there? You people are just determined to relive the Rockefeller 2014 experience one way or the other, come rain or snow, aren't you. Sad, yet predictable. Mariah showed up to support her friend to help celebrate his milestone longevity in the music industry for free and the crowd loved it. But I guess if you're gonna be a Grinch, now would be the perfect time.
(Monday 7 December 2015; 19:53)
Re: Prince spills tea: Billboard Lady Gaga's WOTY fraud (58,236) (58,255) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
"Prince hit the nerve. Billboard never acknowledges Mariah's success and rather give props to artists with less achievements for some reason. Billboard charts became a business some are willing to follow but I'm happy MC is beyond that." You're right Sofia. And you know It could only have been someone like Prince who could have exposed them like he did. As he doesn't have anything to prove and he is known to release his material in ways Billboard doesn't always credit as legitimate sales. Of course the usual suspects are gonna wanna try and make this rather disappointing revelation about the bribery based culture at Billboard Magazine about everything but that. Corrupt losers. But in hindsight I'm really happy Mariah didn't get any of their fake awards. It just further endears her to me in light of recent events. They can keep 'em indefinitely while MiMi keeps her integrity and pristine moral compass intact. These things make me proud to be a Lamb.
(Monday 7 December 2015; 14:38)
Re: Can't Say No (58,238) (58,240) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Jono, I'm hoping it gets a re-remix with Mariah producing and writing new lyrics like she's done for Oh Santa in A Christmas Melody or her other remixes like I Still Believe with Brat and Krayzie or Joy To The World celebration with David Morales. Any excuse for Can't Let Go to have a second coming tbh. I'm excited.
(Monday 7 December 2015; 0:20)
Re: Christmas Time Is In The Air Again (58,237) (58,239) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
I agree to the fullest enwar. To my ears? I don't know that Mariah ever sounded more at ease with her voice than in this song. At least when it comes to tone and body. It's like she isn't even trying and yet it's so masterfully done how the musical arrangement and her singing compliment each other. She and Marc Shaiman are magic together.
(Monday 7 December 2015; 0:02)
Re: Prince spills tea: Billboard Lady Gaga's WOTY Fraud (58,221) (58,228) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Well, it doesn't much matter. The ones who are smart enough can research it themselves even without any links to Prince's tweet or the letter of resignation from the Billboard employee. It probably won't change the culture of corruption that the entertainment press is mired in anytime soon but it's a start. At least we know Mariah isn't mixed up in this mess because he always gets the proverbial short end of the stick from most media outlets. This explains why she was completely ignored at this years Billboard Music Awards even though she hadn't honoured them with her presence since 1998. They neglected to give her an award for any of her major chart records since or even just for her legendary longevity to mark her 25th anniversary on the BB charts. JLo got their Icon Award just last year but somehow Mariah is chopped liver? It's all beginning to make sense now. This sucks for the other "legitimate" winners though, I'll say that much. Wonder what other publications have the same bribery culture? I can think of at least one other major industry staple that regularly leaves Mariah out of their lists of Songwriters for no apparent reason other than obvious bias. But you didn't hear it from me.
(Sunday 6 December 2015; 10:21)
Prince spills tea: Billboard Lady Gaga's WOTY Fraud (58,221) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Hey, how come half the post is edited/deleted? Why not post the sources, i.e. the letter attached? It's how I was introduced to the news and how it should be told. I guess I could repost just the links. [Webmaster: Who cares what your sources are?]
(Sunday 6 December 2015; 1:47)
Prince spills tea: Billboard Lady Gaga's WOTY fraud (58,218) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
"The concepts of honesty and top-notch journalism that we were taught to value here at Billboard have slipped away." It's all over Twitter. I was waiting for some sort of damage control but Billboards last tweet is from 2-3 days ago, ironically congratulating Lady Gaga for her Woman of The Year "win". Basically, the writer is retelling how Gaga supposedly secured her Billboard Magazine WOTY award through payola disguised as charity and also alludes to other similar situations during her time at Billboard as the reason for her resignation. I'm not even a little bit surprised at this when every other article BB writes about Mariah is literally hack journalism. If Billboard is as corrupt as this former employee plainly states then it must be just as easy for someone to sabotage by planting unfavourable stories/narratives and buy negative press. It explains so much that I don't even need to elaborate beyond the many rants I've already had in the past on this very board on this particular subject. So, In the words of Prince Rogers Nelson: Thoughts? Discuss.
(Sunday 6 December 2015; 1:06)
Mariah's birthday Tweet to Jay-Z (58,209) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
"Happy birthday to my friend Jay. You deserve another great year and many more." Awww isn't that just darling? MiMi is such a genuine and loyal friend. That can't be said for every "diva" these days. Here's the picture attached.
(Saturday 5 December 2015; 13:50)
Rockefeller? That's so fetch (58,206) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Performing at Rockefeller this year would be like Mariah rewarding "bad behaviour". It was never gonna happen. It's how we know she's a good parent. Her compromise was her 3 hour appearance in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. It's not complicated, I'd have done the exact same thing. Besides, M deserves a full televised hour of delivering her Christmas gems on her terms and not being ridiculed and punished for having a cold. Not to mention having the decency to still sing live all while enduring personal upheaval. If you wanna hear her sing AIWFCIY then fetch a seat at the Beacon.
(Friday 4 December 2015; 22:54)
Re: Tabloid "journalism" (58,147) (58,157) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Billy, these people don't believe a single lie they print. That's not the objective. The real objective is proliferation of negative gossip about Mariah. And it works like a charm. In a few days this narrative will have spread to international tabloids, blogs, vlogs and from person to person through word of mouth. *Shout out to Wendy Williams and Norman The Goat.* Even countries that don't have free speech or democracy will print this in their papers. The clear and present absurdity will simply be lost in translation and if Team Mariah gives a press release debunking every single false claim it will never reach all those who read/heard the first ridiculous mess. So Mariah's domestic and international appeal gets eroded little by little because that is the story these people want the world to believe about her. That in turn affects her marketability amongst casual fans. They'll go to great lengths pretending to be fans in order to fool people yet turn around and lowkey insult Mariah Carey and thus the Lambily for our dedication and loyalty when we come to her defence. It's the oldest trick in the book i.e. basic propaganda: Devide and conquer. I'm pretty sure you've seen how they operate up close. I know I have.
(Wednesday 2 December 2015; 5:59)
Maybe you're just not that into her? (58,130) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
It baffles me how so many of you are still holding on to these toxic emotions and the dead-end relationship with Mariah that you insist on still having year after year. You don't like the way she looks anymore, you think her music sucks, her friends annoy you, her acting is atrocious, her voice grates on your nerves, her personality embarrases you in public, her sense of humour makes you cringe and your friends and family don't like much either her except for that one song. Face it: You and Mariah Carey need to get a divorce. There. I said it. A trial separation is redundant at this point. And honestly, I can understand your frustration because it appears that Mariah doesn't ever listen to any of your advise, suggestions or random blurbs. It must be seven types of bitches the way she ignores you at parties, won't text you back in a timely manner, stopped CCing you in group emails, doesn't remember to send you a card on your birthday, screens your calls, asks you for your opinion only to do the exact opposite and started using new lingo that you don't understand. Me? I am very happy and fulfilled in our relationship. I feel like Mariah listens to me as a Lamb on a cosmic level. I tend to get exactly what I want from her or a very agreeable compromise. It happens every day. The reason is very simple: We dream the same dream and We want the same thing. *shout out to Diane Warren* That's the basis of any successful partnership along with trust, respect and love. The Lambily at large is very happy with Mariah. If you find that you are frequently not, then maybe you're just not that into her? IKR? What a crazy idea. So while you whine and cry about the bane of your existence on the daily, us hardcore Lambs are consistently getting what we want from our fave. And I'll be damned if I don't take a secret pleasure in knowing how my every wish and every dream somehow became reality while she's left y'all hanging time and again. That's gotta sting. But if you had better ideas that actually made sense to her brand and persona you too would be rewarded. Alas, that will never come to be. And that's OK too. Every hero needs a protagonist and that is your purpose whether you know it or not. Thank you for services rendered.
(Tuesday 1 December 2015; 8:20)
AIWFCIY goes top 10 on Swedish iTunes at #8 (58,098) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Yep. All I Want has been rapidly rising on iTunes all November. Compared to last year, when it didn't quite manage to break the top 10 even in December, it's a remarkable feat. It means Mariah's profile in Sweden has been raised significantly this past year and it's a positive progression. I love when she gets rewarded for her hard work and the Anti-Mariah agenda fails. Talking about: Mariah Carey should retire. Fools. NTT: "Hate on me as much as you want to. You can't do what the [censored] I do. Bitches be emulating me daily."
(Sunday 29 November 2015; 23:51)
Re: Melt Away (57,951) (57,993) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
There is just one thing about your post, Melt Away was produced by Mariah alone. Babyface only helped co-write the music probably. But I think it's easy to pick out his vocals in the background during the bridge's "You and me, (Babyface: You and me) in a cloud of reverie" part. I wish Mariah will take full credit for her hard work more often in the future. She revealed on Steve Harvey how she's forfeited director credit for more videos than we probably know of, unnecessarily IMO. I think she's finally getting it, that it's OK to take pride in her singular excellence and making it known to all and not always be so modest. I love MC for her abundant generosity and humility in sharing the profits of her wealth with her collaborators but not at the expense of her not getting full acknowledgment for her work as a songwriter, producer and director. My 2Ā¢ents.
(Thursday 26 November 2015; 14:09)
My list of Thanksgiving (57,992) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
We don't really celebrate Thanksgiving in Sweden, at least nowhere near the way Americans do. But I like the concept of giving thanks and showing gratitude for the good things we have received this past year. So I thought it'd make a list as it's sometimes good to remind oneself of one's blessings and not just focus on the negative white noise that is constantly engulfing us in our real lives and online. In shuffle order:
10. The Why You Mad Infinity Remix with JB, T.I. and French Montana.
9. The Mac cosmetics collaboration starting with frosty champagne All I Want lipstick.
8. Can't Say No with Rick Ross possibly getting single-treatment
7.The update of #1's to Infinity commemorating her record 18 Billboard #1s.
6. MC's expansion of her Christmas empire with the AIWFCIY book, collectors 10" and red vinyl MC album.
5 The Game of War commercials.
4. A Christmas Melody tv-movie being directed by Mariah Carey as the first of hopefully many more.
3. Stellar Bulochnikov's managerial partnership with MC.
2. The Vegas residency.
1. The Sony homecoming.
Honourable mention is obviously James Packer of WoolPac but also the rest of Team Mariah for keeping up with her busiest year in a while. M runs a tight ship these days and we like that. There is so much positive and creative buzz surrounding Mariah that I'm sure someone else's list might look rather different. Have at it Lambs. But above all, I am thankful that MiMi is happy in both her professional and personal life and is still alive and kicking despite her injuries, visible and invisible. She's one of my greatest inspirations to keep going when the going gets tough.
(Thursday 26 November 2015; 11:44)
LeAnn Rimes: MC's classic Christmas album is goat (57,991) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Professional Aussie Stalker: What do you think is the best Christmas album of all time, I know you've got one?
LeAnn Rimes: Uh, probably. I listen to Mariah Carey's, probably more than anybody's.
PAS: Ah, nice.
LeAnn: It's awesome.
PAS: Did you take inspiration from that for your album?
LeAnn: Not really, mine's completely different but I do love that record. It's classic.
PAS: You should do a collaboration with her.
LeAnn: *laughs* That would be fun. Another lamb exposed. I wonder if she has a solar-driven unicorn named Rainbow?
Happy Thanksgiving lambs.
(Thursday 26 November 2015; 10:47)
Don't rain on Mariah's parade (57,982) (57,984) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
These crazies are at it again. You all always come out when Mariah is getting positive hype. Sad, yet predictable. But we love it because it means Team Mariah is on the ball and certain people don't like that. So go on, bring your stale, crustry tabloid wipes and try to pass it off as love and concern. We see right through you muffs. You all ain't special, you people are a dime a dozen on here and every other board and comment section online, from TMZ and YT to the DM. How much does professional ignorance pay these days by the way? Baby needs a new pair of boots and you alls job spreading bullshit looks super low intensive. In fact, I could probably do a 99% better job than you do (which wouldn't take much, let's be honest) in my sleep. I'm not trying to be mean or disrespectful but you kinda suck donkey dong at what you do. There is no element of surprise or sense of urgency in your writing. Forget about originality and flair. The drama is lacking for it to be actually interesting enough that some [censored] fools would start spreading it, which is what you want, right? I mean, does it even really count if your message is stuck in an echochamber with the same people, going nowhere? Have you no pride of your work that you are okay with being so ineffective in your negative branding of Mariah that you fail to realise just how much you are actually helping her? This is not a Bond movie so you'll have to figure out the plot on your own. Good luck, you're gonna need it where you're headed.
(Thursday 26 November 2015; 2:24)
New Christmas Melody clip via EW (57,968) (57,974) (57,977) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
IKR? It's obviously b-roll. Meaning, it's not necessarily a part of the finished product yet. That takes a lot of technical synchronising, color treatment, sound-editing etc. It could be also be a scene that was cut from the movie because it was superfluous or didn't move the story forward, hense why she even leaked it as is. If so, it's a brilliant teaser in this spoiler dense era. ACM is still in post production. I mean, it's been just a week since she took that diva in bed picture where, lest we forget, she was doing voice-over work. I don't know, but I could be right.
(Wednesday 25 November 2015; 18:32)
Bad Blood: Melt Away et al. (57,942) (57,946) (57,972) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
"Didn't Mariah write Melt Away specifically for this soundtrack, but it got snubbed from it? Am I wrong?" I wouldn't be surprised if it was ultimately Tommy who actually put the kibosh on Melt Away being on the Exhale soundtrack. He's always seemed especially vexed at Mariah having any successes in the movies. I'm pretty sure it stems from Mariah's initial contract with Warner being a soundtrack song and his need to keep the myth of having "made" Mariah intact when she had esentially already "made it" before meeting him. He couldn't risk her being a big hit in a business where he didn't really have any real pull. He must have always known she wanted to eventually go into acting and obviously did everything in his power as her record label president to keep that from happening. Once they divorced it became his mission to thwart her every effort, both musical and filmic from reaching its full potential. We all know the culmination of his devilled madness that gifted the world with JLo and made the Glitter era such a wonderful time for Mariah and Lambily. Oh, but the memories. Remember how Hero was supposed to be on a soundtrack and sung by Gloria Estefan? Why couldn't Mariah have kept it for herself and also put it on the soundtrack? Ever wonder why Gloria but especially Celine had so many soundtrack theme songs being signed to Columbia and Sony yet Mariah was conspicuously absent from any such projects? Sip that tea real slow. But, you didn't hear it from me.
(Wednesday 25 November 2015; 10:58)

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