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About Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway: Fan since 1997

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,395) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Everybody rembers, every fan of Mariah remembers what happened in 2001 with JLo stealing the Fire Cracker sample and making an [almost] identical song from Glitter with "I'm Real" with Ja Rule, don't become an Andrew 2.0. (Saturday 11 May 2024; 12:57) this is a reply to message 106,392

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,392) by Zachariah from Croatia Finally, someone remembers. (Saturday 11 May 2024; 02:37)

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,388) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway She released an album called "This is me... now" that debuted at #38 on Billboard 200 then disappearing the next week. [Then] she releases an visual album, a film with the songs from the album, then a documentary called "The greatest love story never told" about the making of this film, but also about Ben Affleck and her love story. This was meant to be JLo's magnum opus, where she finally would get recognition for her artistry. This has backfired so badly, [because] the film and the documentary are so cringe and bad, that everything JLo has ever done in her career is now coming up to the surface. This is happening on TikTok mostly, so I haven't realized it [either] before I started to see YouTube videos about it. This is the last post [about] this from me, but the reason I share this here, is [because] Mariah is very much a part of all [these] YouTube videos, [because] she was maybe the most vocal about this over 20 years ago. Even if we don't want to admit it, JLo is a much more relevant person in the cultural canon today, having hundreds of millions of followers on different social media platforms. Mariah was one of the people who tried to tell the world about this stuff 20 years ago, and is now [considered] a hero in all this. The "I don't know her" has [suddenly] got much more meaning. (Friday 10 May 2024; 10:04) this is a reply to message 106,379

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,379) by Jamie from UK I haven't really been paying attention to this, as much as she's not the best singer I always thought of her as an all rounder. I used to love her films and always thought she was down to earth. What's going on for all this to be happening? What have I missed? (Thursday 9 May 2024; 13:48)

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,387) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Well, the [similarities] is that nobody [thought] Mariah would come back. Glitter tanking and Mariah being [bought] out of her contract was considered the nail in the coffin for Mariah's career back then. We only know today that it wasn't. I think this is a certified last nail in the coffin for JLo's career, because all the stuff that is seeing the light of day is something you can't come back from. Us Lambs have always known this, but the general public hasn't. What is happening now is that the general public is getting to know [these] things, and when you understand that the artist you love doesn't even have their own vocals on their songs, much like Milli Vanilli, well, how can you as an artist defend that? It's impossible. (Friday 10 May 2024; 09:47) this is a reply to message 106,382

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,382) by Shezz from Pk Although there are similarities, I don't think it is quite like Mariah's Glitter debacle. Mariah was still around her peak (tail end) and was only around 30 with a majority of her career ahead of her. JLo was at her lowest popularity/ commercial success point before this album. It's like a bad ending to her career since she said this was most likely her last album. A final nail on her coffin. I don't think anybody or even she herself are thinking about she should come back from this. I'm not a fan but not a hater. Whereas I didn't mind her being exposed (being a lamb) I hope she was at least pleased herself with her last project. I don't know why I feel like Mariah is poised/ gearing up for another favourable era. I'd be happy if she cracks the top 20 on the Hot100 again with her own material (with or without a guest but not as a feature herself). (Thursday 9 May 2024; 14:42)

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,386) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway You don't need be catty with me, don't be a JLo and burn bridges within your community. (Friday 10 May 2024; 09:38) this is a reply to message 106,383

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,383) by Zachariah from Croatia Well it is hard not be catty when J.Lo is in involved. Her somewhat genuine career lasted right about that period, 1997-2001. Then she started stealing songs. Second rate "diva" who can't sustain. (Thursday 9 May 2024; 21:46)

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,381) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway No, I don't think I do. I became a fan of Mariah in 1997, I remember everything from 2001 and onward very well. Nice of you to be catty, I appreciate it. (Thursday 9 May 2024; 14:35) this is a reply to message 106,380

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,380) by Zachariah from Croatia You missed 23 years then. (Thursday 9 May 2024; 14:27)

Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,377) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway This is a really interesting video made by a very talented youtuber, it's over two hours long and a comprehensive dive into the downfall of Jennifer Lopez. The reason I share it is because Mariah is mentioned quite a bit, and in this JLo debacle, after her album, movie and the documentary about making of the movie have tanked worse than even Mariah's own vanity project, Glitter, Mariah is portraid as somewhat a hero. Mariah was right about JLo all along. While Mariah managed to bounce back in 2005 with one of the biggest comebacks in music history, because Mariah actually has talent, I just can't se how JLo will come back from this, it's career ending stuff happening now. Everything has been exposed the last few weeks, that she steals other people's music, dosen't sing her own songs, everything her being from the "block" is fake, she might be the most rude and mean celebrity there is, there's just no authenticity, and everything is out there now. It's really fascinating to experience. (Thursday 9 May 2024; 12:52)

New hobby (106,369) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I've got myself a new hobby, binge watching all the YouTube videos bashing the girl we all do not know. It's a joy to see the downfall in real time, exuberating, really. (Wednesday 8 May 2024; 20:22)

TEOM concerts (106,248) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I think this generation has forgotten how brilliant Mariah was in her prime in the 90's, and the general public isn't that critical anymore against Mariah because she is not of a big interest in the general cultural canon, these days, except around Christmas. I think the people who genuinely gets upset because of all the lip synching, is the hardcore fans who have followed her for years. I am upset too, but still get very exited every time she actually does something live. I'm still a fan and still very much interested in everything Mariah does, it gives me mostly joy to be lamb, as I guess is the case for most of the people on this board. (Monday 22 April 2024; 01:13) this is a reply to message 106,239

TEOM concerts (106,239) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain Ok. So if you see this video containing the whole concert from that perspective, you would think that there could be some lipping, but the rest would be mainly live. But if you see all the Mariah videos from the first concert uploaded 7/8 days ago on this channel, you truly can see the real thing happening, that is, she's lipping everything except for 5 specific moments throughout the entire concert. The recordings are so zoomed-in that it is so evident. Besides, sometimes she skips phrases, she starts miming two seconds later or she's just too lazy to pretend to be making an effort on the belting parts. As I said before, at least, we have new high-quality recordings of most of the songs. To be honest, I became aware of the lipping thing (you know, the lipped parts of some songs) back in 2008. At that moment and after analyzing so many performances, I realized that she had been doing it from 1997 (the belted section of Honey at Top of the Pops, for example). It was a total and complete letdown, and I took my time to process it. I'm a huge fan and I'll always be. I'll keep following her forever. For sure, she uses lipping for whatever reasons, some of them have been explained or theorized here and I can agree with them, but it is a fact. And right now it has come to a point where almost the whole thing is. Anyway, we love her. (Sunday 21 April 2024; 01:39)

Funko Pop (106,148) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway What do you guys think of the new Emancipation of Mimi Funko Pop figure? I have the first Christmas one and the Fantasy one, I'm not sure about this new one. Think I'll wait for another version, I'm sure there will be more. (Saturday 13 April 2024; 12:00)

Las Vegas (106,147) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I can't decide whether Mariah is actually singing some parts or the vocals are all pre recorded. In Without You, I think she sings to a back track first, but sings live some parts of the chorus, it's hard to tell, she has gotten much better at lip synching. She is still very stiff, but she moves a bit more freely than in the last few months. The stage was really nice though. (Saturday 13 April 2024; 11:38)

Academy recognising Glitter (106,084) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I actually think the reason why Mariah sounds so restricted on Charmbracelet had everything to do with Glitter and her breakdown. I think she felt the world really was tired of everything Mariah, especially her voice, many people back then complained that she was just shouting, not that this had anything to do with reality. Mariah was overexposed after the 90's, much like the risk Taylor Swift is taking now. Charmbracelet shows a Mariah that is scared to annoy or pushing more people away, almost to the point of self extinction. She did exactly what people wanted her to, become a shadow of her self, almost a different artist singing wise. Well, we all know how that turned out, it's her most forgotten and least interesting album, only positive is that it felt really personal. I'm glad she came back in 2005 wanting nothing else than to be herself, showcasing every part of her voice. If you can sing like Mariah Carey, why would you ever try to disguise that? (Monday 1 April 2024; 17:43) this is a reply to message 106,080

Academy recognising Glitter (106,080) by Bobby A from United States Mimi, your post made me listen to Glitter in its entirety today. Glitter is in MC's top 5 of vocally amazing work of art. So, what happened to her voice that she couldn't produced those same type of vocals on Charmbraclet? I don't think it had anything to do with her breakdown. Was it the lazy production on Charmbraclet? Was it the choice of producers who really didn't know how to give MC the best chords and arrangements? (Monday 1 April 2024; 00:06)

Is Mariah Carey popular? (106,075) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway The score for fame and popularity is based on surveys, they ask a random selection of people every quarter, so it's not a ranking based on opinion. (Sunday 31 March 2024; 13:00) this is a reply to message 106,071

Is Mariah Carey popular? (106,071) by Libra Lamb from USA Mariah Carey was working hard to get her debut album out when Taylor Swift was in infant diapers, I'd say she's got a lot more years on her and more people know her impressive body of work than Taylor Swift's. I'm not denying the star power of Taylor at all, I think she's phenomenal even though I personally don't care for her music. And also I don't know how they measured the popularity contest. I'm just saying that I bet the article is right to place MC ahead of her. We love everybody. (Saturday 30 March 2024; 21:16)

Music has become worse (106,061) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Read this article in the Guardian, it's very interesting (Friday 29 March 2024; 20:15)

Is Mariah Carey popular? (106,060) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I don't know if any of you have visited this site, and it's only applicable for the US, but contrary to what some people might believe, Mariah Carey is very famous, and quite popular. (Friday 29 March 2024; 19:14)

It's been a long time coming (105,511) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway When was the last time Mariah was on top worldwide and it wasn't a Christmas song? Even here in Norway, Mariah is now #3 on top songs on iTunes. I had completely forgotten the feeling I experience when Mariah is represented on the charts. It's too early to hope for Mariah's name to be on offical charts around the world, but what a great feeling that would be. Nevertheless, congrats Mariah and Ariana. (Saturday 17 February 2024; 17:39)

Yes, and? #1 (105,503) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Mariah and Ariana sit comfortably on top of the iTunes top 100 world chart. (Saturday 17 February 2024; 10:33)

Yes, and? (105,464) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I actually really like it, the intro is pure old school Mariah 90's remixes, plesently surprised. But, Mariah's voice sounds a bit strange, I didn't recognize her when she started to sing, I have never heard her voice sound like it does on this remix, it sounds manufactored to be honest. (Friday 16 February 2024; 07:35)

Conflicted (105,424) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I should and thought I would be excited about the news of a Mariah and Ariana collaboration, but my feelings are a bit conflicted really. I actually don't think Mariah and Ariana like each other that much, and I feel Mariah only does this to get noticed more by a younger crowd, and mayby hope that it would be a hit like Big Energy (Remix). And all of those things are positive, but my gut feeling is that this remix will pass away fast. I might be wrong. (Thursday 15 February 2024; 00:09)

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,395) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Thank you. How many are inducted out of the nominees? I voted again for Mariah today, she's in the top 7. (Tuesday 13 February 2024; 11:11) this is a reply to message 105,382

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,382) by Pedro from Brazil After you vote, click on "Fans Ballot Leaders" and it shows the rank. We have to vote every day. (Monday 12 February 2024; 15:04)

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,380) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway How do you know she's way behind? (Monday 12 February 2024; 12:35) this is a reply to message 105,375

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,375) by Pedro from Brazil Don't forget to vote every day for Mariah. She's way behind. Click on the link vote.rockhall.com. (Monday 12 February 2024; 00:40)

A last question (104,728) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway A last question before I head out to this years celebration of what was and what is to come. I just realized, almost every human being on earth know who Mariah is. In all my encounters with other people, I have never met a person who doesn't know who Mariah is. A lot of frustration on this board and from me personally, is that Mariah's music isn't remembered that much compared to Whitney, Madonna or Celine. Ask a young person today to name another song by Mariah that isn't AIWFCIY, and they will have a hard problem to name one, maybe they know Hero. But Mariah's level of fame, is bigger than her music. Everybody knows who she is, her name is instantly recognizable. So, isn't it better to be happy about Mariah's impression on culture, that everybody knows her name, than be dpressed that many can't name a single song? Everybody knows who Mozart was, but be honest, name five pieces of his, and try to recollect any of his tunes in your head. I can, but can the general public? In one hundred years from now, maybe Mariah's name will still be in the cultural canon, even though most people don't know a single tune of hers. I would call that a big personal success irregardless. (Sunday 31 December 2023; 18:54)

Clarity (104,647) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I am concerned too, Andrew. My worst nightmare is that Mariah's whole catalogue will go down the drain because of this Christmas song, alone. But remember, we are all living in our own time, Mariah might be content with that song being her only legacy per now. But, as with you, it devastates me that most people won't know her other songs. I guess we as fans, just need to micro dose people with other stuff, like I have done the last 25 years. There is not a single soul I have met in my life that won't think of me whenever a Mariah song is played. I wish you all a Merry Christmas, thank you for this community, going to listen to "One Child" now, love you. (Monday 25 December 2023; 02:46) this is a reply to message 104,641

Clarity (104,641) by Andrew from the UK Surely Music Box, Daydream and the Emancipation of Mimi are the albums most loved by the public: not only have they sold the most, but they contain the songs that everyone knows her for. I am glad Mariah has popular annual material to sell but Christmas feels ever increasingly like a novelty. All the benefits of having such material makes real the threat of being known only for being a novelty act and having the rest of a (quite formidable) catalogue fall by the wayside. It's unnerving for someone who is a long time, avid fan. It's both uniquely great and concerning. (Sunday 24 December 2023; 18:12)

Good voice (104,372) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I can honestly say I had lost all faith in that Mariah would work on her voice and sound good again, but she has impressed me once more. How pleasant and nice it is to hear her live voice again, it's so satisfying and soothing, just listen to this. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:28)

View from here (104,183) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I agree on the subject of her awkward stiffness, I just can't figure out what seems to be wrong. Besides that, what I take from the concerts is that her voice is back to a level where it's actually pleasant to listen to her sing again, that makes me happy. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 17:36) this is a reply to message 104,177

View from here (104,177) by MC1989 from Spain Maybe the extreme stiffness is due to a recent lipposuction and a recent face lift? I don't know. Maybe she's recovering from recent surgeries. Because even though since 2010 her stage performances became very low energy in terms of movements and dancing, she was never this stiff. Though I'm enjoying some iconic moments from these Christmas shows, I share your thoughts about her recent awkward stiffness and lack of face expresion. I also feel good about her success with these shows, from the videos I've seen, people are enjoying them a lot and she's singing in front of big audiences again. (Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:04)

Performance (104,139) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Well, I also think it was live, but besides from the opening chorus, she is mostly singing to the original recording as a back track, but sometimes her current voice shines through, and it's not bad at all. Her voice in the opening chorus is actually better than the lst 5-10 years. She has listened to some criticism and feedback it seems, maybe even come to this board for advice. She is doing much of what many people here have requested, singing the songs differently with her curent voice, keeping to her middle to low register and quit masking her voice decline with pre-recorded notes nobody believes she can hit anymore. Mariah has lost weight, done a face sugery, maybe another boob job, they look a bitt different, she looks better than in years. But at the same time I am dissapointed that she has gone to these extremes, I really hope she will not eventually become another Madonna case. I am still concerned about her mental well being, because she is lethargic and doesn't seem happy. It might be medication, I read another place she has used osempic to lose weight, and more than 10% of users of that medication gets depression and it's not unusual to get suicidal. But that is of course just speculation. Anyways, Mariah is working hard on getting her reputation back as a singer and a perfomer you can rely on, I think she is doing a pretty good job. Keep up the good work, Mariah, and your happiness will follow. (Monday 20 November 2023; 18:02) this is a reply to message 104,132

Performance (104,132) by Tameka walker from United states I watched Mariah's performance and I really enjoyed it. She can still sing it's not like when she came out in the nineties but she can still sing her face off. She was even trying to do something a little bit different to let the audience know that hey I can still sing and I am singing live not all was live but most of it was. I would like to know what you guys think. Do you think she was singing live or was she lipping it? Well I love Mariah I have loved her since day one. She is incomparable. Mariah Carey often duplicated never imitated. You guys also have to remember that all these young girls like Christina (42), Britney (41), Jessica (43), Beyoncé (42) and so forth studied Mariah so they can be like her. I often come on this board but hardly ever post anything but when she does a good job I would like to leave a positive message to up lift her. Let her know that her die hard fans like me are with her. Everyone has a right to feel how they want and say what they want this is a free country. I have always been one of her biggest fans because I have always wanted to sing and I love singers with big voices. I love you Mariah you are such an inspiration. (Monday 20 November 2023; 06:06)

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