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About Andrew from London UK: That's me at the O2. Same building Mariah has been in. Love me some Mariah.

Re: Mariah shares post of her and Celine Dion carpool karaoke (89,731) (89,735) by Andrew from London UK Oh, the buses don't go where you live, do they, sweetheart? (Monday 27 May 2019; 03:48)

Re: Michael Jackson (89,711) (89,718) by Andrew from London UK We are agreeing on a lot, B-Rand. They never proved it when MJ was alive and there's no hope now he is not. Money-hungry, morally reprehensible fools, say I. I say, also, to everyone who gives credence to the vile documentary: imagine if Stella&Co made a documentary after Mariah had passed with such allegations. Imagine your response. Imagine your outrage. To me, an age-old adage is more applicable in the modern era than ever: it doesn't matter what you "know", it matters what you can prove. Can't prove it? Stop talking. And go live your best life. (Saturday 25 May 2019; 01:26)

Re: The Royal Albert Hall (89,709) (89,717) by Andrew from London UK The phone call would go something a little bit like this: "Hi, is that Mariah?" "Dahling, you sound so English." "Dahling, you don't. Anyway, I have ideas that would make..." "Wait, who are you?" "It's Andrew. From the MCA messageboard." *click* (Saturday 25 May 2019; 01:18)

The Royal Albert Hall (89,707) by Andrew from London UK I think Mariah should record the three nights at The Royal Albert Hall and release it as a special on Netflix (and on DVD?). Doing 3 nights of a show in one place allows her to choose the best takes and edit it together nicelý. It's also a very prestigious venue. It has a sense of importance and class that would make it not-just-another-concert. Included in the special between songs could be her accepting the Ivor Novello award for songwriting and clips of her in London. It would be a brilliant special with the touch of class she needs (as opposed to some gawkish affair in Las Vegas). I would have her bring on Westlife to do Against All Odds. O Mariah, if only I were your manager. (Friday 24 May 2019; 16:49)

Ivor Novello (89,695) by Andrew from London UK Not sure if anyone outside of the UK knows what that award means. It is the creme de la creme of songwriting awards. An Ivor Novello is difficult to attain. This is one of the biggest achievements Mariah could hope for. Outstanding. (Thursday 23 May 2019; 23:54)

Re: The Netherlands (89,646) (89,662) by Andrew from London UK The only thing Eric won was "Censor of the year". Les Pays-Bas, nuls points. For the Americans: Holland, GTFO. (Monday 20 May 2019; 04:43)

Re: If septic tanks could sing (89,658) (89,661) by Andrew from London UK Bro, I don't wanna hate on Madonna. I don't love her enough to criticise her deeply (some people here will never get me, although others do). You weren't a 90s child to me if you didn't love Take a Bow. You weren't a 90s child if you did not love the whole of Ray of Light. You were not excited at Madonna's rebirth in 2005 with Confessions if you didn't love her in the 90s. I love me some Madonna. I love Madonna. But I am bare faced with truth. At Mariah's worst, she still has music in her. Madonna was awful at Eurovision and it made me sad. She looks shocking. She sounds shocking. She appears desperate. Mariah went that way with I Don't and Stellagate. Mariah at the BBMAs, although not perfect, showed how someone becomes a legend. I was proud of her. Massively. Madonna stans will undoubtedly be worried today. Mariah did me proud at the BBMAs. I once worried for her legacy. I'm more hopeful now. A lifetime spent defending something may just turn out to be worth it. (Monday 20 May 2019; 04:38)

If septic tanks could sing (89,643) by Andrew from London UK At Mariah's worst, she kicks Madonna's ass. That was awful. If septic tanks could sing, they'd have one up on this gimmick of a shit show. The most noteworthy thing about it was that Madonna had no stage presence. There was no gravitas. No awe. Which is surprising. I am certain people would scream and cry over Mariah. (Sunday 19 May 2019; 06:52)

Re: New start (89,633) (89,642) by Andrew from London UK Have you ever visited the planet Earth? (Sunday 19 May 2019; 05:55)

Re: The Netherlands (89,637) (89,641) by Andrew from London UK So Eric, dearest. I didn't watch it and planned to watch it on catch up, avoiding all news networks. I thought MCA would be a safe bet. Evidently not. However, given our historic banter on the subject, I'll give you this one. Congrats. I haven't yet looked, but I'll guess the United Kingdom is bottom five? In all seriousness, congrats. (Sunday 19 May 2019; 05:49)

Re: New start (89,627) (89,629) by Andrew from London UK I don't know you. (Saturday 18 May 2019; 14:14)

Re: List / unplugged on Jimmy Fallon (89,618) (89,626) by Andrew from London UK Eric added the link for me into the message. Click on it and you will see TTEOT sung at the memorial. If you don't cry, you don't have a heart. (Saturday 18 May 2019; 02:58)

Re: New start (89,623) (89,625) by Andrew from London UK I meant it tongue-in-cheek. Let's being the humour back. No disrespect. (Saturday 18 May 2019; 02:55)

Re: New start (89,615) (89,621) by Andrew from London UK I don't mean to be a nitpicker, but if you were exposed to Mariah by turning on MTV and seeing Fantasy, how are you an "MC lover since day one"? (Friday 17 May 2019; 17:22)

Rob King (89,608) by Andrew from London UK Incidentally, remember the guy who sang Till The End Of Time at Martyn's memorial? He's only on Britain's Got Talent this year. Check him out and vote for him if you can. (Friday 17 May 2019; 04:14)

Re: List / unplugged on Jimmy Fallon (89,601) (89,607) by Andrew from London UK A new unplugged? Im sure someone already thought of that. 1. My All (strings into Morales) 2. It's Like That (live percussion frenzy with crazy massive drum percussion interlude) 3. With You 4. #Beautiful (feat. Trey Lorenz) 5. We Belong Together 6. Hero (but slow, soft whisper throughout over gentle piano in background with lone spotlight, ending on ethereal long held whistle note) 7. Always Be My Baby (audience participation) 8. Till The End Of Time I know she wouldn't dare try for TTEOT. But what an ending. And for Martyn, no less. In five days, it becomes two years. How time flies. How nice to have the luxury of time flying, eh. (Friday 17 May 2019; 03:39)

Re: Right to dream / Help me make it (89,592) (89,595) by Andrew from London UK Help Me Make It Though The Night is a lovely song. Right To Dream is depressing. But some people like it. Each to their own. (Thursday 16 May 2019; 14:20)

Re: Has something happened? (89,578) (89,594) by Andrew from London UK You complain that people post about subject material you don't like. Then you complain that people post messages that are too long. Then you complain that people are not posting at all. (Thursday 16 May 2019; 14:11)

Re: Has something happened? (89,580) (89,587) by Andrew from London UK Anyone else think "Justice" would be a great Mariah Carey album title? Since I named The Butterfly Returns I think I should be heard out. (Thursday 16 May 2019; 02:09)

Re: It's Like That (1993 Remix) (89,573) (89,574) by Andrew from London UK It's 1993 because it's I've Been Thinking About You. (Monday 13 May 2019; 23:00)

Mi amiga (89,567) by Andrew from London UK "First of all, it's obvious my English is not the best." Your English is excellent. "You made the Thessaurus joke before with other people so try another one." Please tell me the post number as I am sure I have not. "[S]o I don't get your offensive tone and prepotent attitude towards me." It's perfectly acceptable for you to state your opinions. It is even more acceptable for those who disagree with them to deny their validity. "I supose that's due to your lack of maturity." I would hope my erudition shows I am far from immature. You are confusing immaturity with having a sense of humour. Laugh a little, amiga. "Sooner or later life will teach you a little humbleness." Yeah, you aren't prepotent at all. "[T]hat uninformed idea about men having even more difficulties than women (hello again, unadmited sexism)." You are steeped in irony. The problem with progressives and intersectionality is that you label everyone who doesn't get on board with your new world theories as being of bad character. Everyone is unintelligent for not subscribing to this new way of thinking and absolutely some sort of "-ist", apparently. I said it was *arguable* that men are worse off. Let me mansplain: men have much higher rates of suicide and incarceration, get harsher punishments for crimes of the same nature, have a much higher rate of deaths in the workplace, are solely subject to military conscription, have to retire at a later age, almost always lose custody battles of children, and so on. "You know very little about the real situation in the queer community." I am on a Mariah Carey messageboard. 2 + 2, amiga. "Again, you speak from your uninformed point of view, speaking from your privilege as a white cisgender European man." Please reference my previous post relating how people who subscribe to this hierarchy of victimhood often become less tolerant of views and the people who hold them. You are clearly being racist here. My race and sex have nothing to bear upon my ability to perceive and comprehend facts. You have used my race and sex against me to dismiss me. It makes you a racist and sexist. Cheers for proving my point so effortlessly. And further, you yourself are a white, "cisgendered" European man. Ergo, you must be wrong about everything, also, right? "May I remind you that Stonewall riots were started by black transgender women." The problem with your way of thinking is that rather than encouraging equality and full participation in society, you group people together and constantly label them as victims. How patronising. And not at all progressive. "You probably think Judith Butler - I bet you don't even know her - and the gender theories are bullshit." Finally, you are right about something. But thank you for the word "theories". They are just that. Theories. Not fact. "You assume that I regurgitate other people's theories and opinions without knowing me." This is not an assumption. You are spouting theories that are relatively very new. You did not come up with them yourself. To accept such ideas as axiomatic without question, argument or debate suggests a desire for you to *want* them to be true, regardless of plausibility. A bit like everything B has ever said. "Gender, not biological sex, is a social construction, but I'm not gonna lose my time and bore you and some conservative people on this board because my aim is not changing anyone's mind." That was the exact aim of your original post. And if having two genders is a social construct, you infer that there are limitless genders. If so, a gender is, indeed, an *idea* rather than a fact. And ideas are open to criticism and derision. "And by the way, I'm not your friend." Well, then we're keeping Gibraltar. Essentially let me end this with one sentence: "Oi, Madonna. Grandma. Put some effing clothes on." Meanwhile, back at the ranch, someone called Mariah Carey once failed to release a song called Migrate as a single. Discuss. (Sunday 12 May 2019; 15:38)

Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,540) (89,564) by Andrew from London UK "Well since you put it that way, honey I'm gon stay." Dammit Jade, I'm gonna be singing that song all day. (Saturday 11 May 2019; 13:07)

Mi amigo (89,563) by Andrew from London UK Man (and yes I just assumed your gender) I normally like your posts but you've driven over a cliff with your very weighty English thesaurus and I fear you will struggle to come back up for air. Were a man to sexualise himself so at 60 to a room full of teenagers then he would equally be lambasted for it. It is neither original nor clever to play identity politics and even less so to fixate on a hierarchy of victimhood designed by people to remove themselves from fair competition. To regurgitate theories of intersectionality because it's currently cool to do so is not clever at all but you are entitled to your opinion - even if it is merely someone else's opinion you have adopted because you think it makes you seem enlightened and in spite of the fact that people who make intersectionality their starting point normally become more intolerant and oppressive than those to whom they claim superiority over. There are only two genders. If people do not feel like they are either one good for them, but nobody is "cisgendered", that's just semantic nonsense fabricated by people desperate to push their agenda and way of thinking onto others. Society is hardly patriarchal given that no law exists in the West that give a man one single right more than a woman and men can be argued to have harder lives than women, even where they make the same life choices, which they rarely do. Everyone ages and their behaviour is expected to alter with age and as you get older so too must the age of the people you date or your intentions and mentality will be questioned. It is also required that you carry yourself with increased levels of integrity and dignity as the years go by. Sexualising yourself to young people at 60 is morally reprehensible as is having toy boys in their 20s who would not look twice at you were you not rich and famous. The requirement to mature in behaviour is a societal necessity. When Mariah took her clothes off in 1997 it wasn't sexism that made people feel awkward, it was the questioning of her mentality. Nobody asked her to sexualise herself, nobody wanted it. It wasn't the artist she had been nor why she had been successful. Then in 1999 she adopted a precious princess persona and the general populous and media lost almost all respect for her. Add Glitter into the mix and the vanity train was destined to be derailed by a public who have expectations about behaviour and attitude. For anyone to claim that it derailed because Mariah is female is nonsense. A man would have equally been treated the same way. Some people can own sexuality in a positive, affirming way. With Mariah it came across as vapid attention seeking, harmful to feminism in that she seemed, and evidently still does seem, desperate to be affirmed by the sexual attention of men. Even when overweight and her sexual attractiveness airbrushed into a lie. As for Madonna, nobody wants a 60yo woman, or indeed man, to be sexual in front of young people. And that may be "ageist" to people who scream under banners about how everyone else must view the world, but that does not mean it is wrong. There are just some realities of human psychology that no amount of Cultural Marxism can do away with. And, also, Madonna's face looks like she's gone into anaphylactic shock. Whilst being stung by bees. Ain't nobody got time fo' dat. (Saturday 11 May 2019; 12:47)

Re: Madonna's BBMA performance (89,528) (89,531) by Andrew from London UK You summed it up. Madonna's new song is pretty good. But everything feels like Madonna desperately trying to get and retain attention for being edgy. This Madame X nonsense is, well, just nonsense. And a 60 year old acting sexual to an audience of teenagers? GTFO. (Thursday 9 May 2019; 14:45)

Mariah and Michael (89,530) by Andrew from London UK If Mariah really has dropped IBT because of unproveable, spurious allegations against a dead man that served only to make those who made the allegations profit then shame on her. She should hope people don't try to profit by accusing her of wrongdoing after she has passed and is unable to defend herself, ruining a lifetime spent doing good. Whatever happened to "He was my friend and I don't believe it"? You know, the type of thing people with integrity might say? (Thursday 9 May 2019; 14:42)

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