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Butterfly tour (108,080) by BFF from United States
Listening to some of the Butterfly tour audio released on the "Mariah Station Concerts" got me to thinking about what would have happened if Mariah had continued the tour in North America. I know she stopped it after the Hawaii date because she wanted to film "Double O Soul" with Chris Tucker. Does anyone know/remember what dates were planned? Were they similar to the ones she eventually committed to in North America for the Rainbow tour?

By the way, Mariah Station Concerts has some great exclusive audio and video from that tour. I think the person who runs it has been buying rare/unreleased footage from engineers who worked on the tour's Australia dates.
(Friday 31 January 2025; 19:25)
My 2025 - hopes, dreams, wishes, and prayers for Mariah Carey (108,076) by BFF from United States
To me, "Charmbracelet" was too long, needed stronger less detached vocals, and needed an uptempo lead single rather than a ballad. Unfortunately, most of the songs included were mid-tempos or ballads and many sounded too similar. Songs like "You Had Your Chance", "Irresistible", and "Lullaby" all blended together in my opinion. I found "Bringing on the Heartbreak" to be the most memorable song on the album because she really let loose vocally rather than holding back like she did on "Through the Rain". She probably needed to take more time off before releasing it, but I understood the need to get the public to forget about "Glitter" at that point.
(Thursday 30 January 2025; 19:06)
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I'll Be There live (108,071) by BFF from United States
Does anyone else like the Top of the Pops performance better than the MTV Unplugged version of it? I love that it is just Mariah and Trey accompanied by piano and the other singers. Fantastic standout amongst her early performances.
(Wednesday 29 January 2025; 00:07)
My 2025 - hopes, dreams, wishes, and prayers for Mariah Carey (108,070) by BFF from United States
I agree. I'm not religious, and I found the post to be totally benign. I understand that people may have felt harmed in the name of religion in their past(s). I definitely have felt harmed in the name of religion in my past, but that doesn't mean that we get to label all religious people or religious references are bad or suspect. I would think that anyone who describes themselves as progressive would welcome diversity of thought and freedom of expression, especially when that thought/expression is completely benign and positive.
(Tuesday 28 January 2025; 17:00)
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Manifestation (108,053) by BFF from United States
It would work so well, and they seemed to have such a great rapport as collaborators. Even Dev Hynes himself thinks it's a good idea.
(Saturday 25 January 2025; 14:39)
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Manifestation (108,047) by BFF from United States
I want to manifest Mariah working more with Blood Orange (Devote Hynes). I loved "Giving Me Life" on "Caution", and I loved his work with Solange Knowles on the "True" EP. I think the production on his songs (I guess you'd call his style alt-R&B/chill wave) and a more detached vocal would work well with Mariah's current voice.
(Friday 24 January 2025; 16:50)
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Mariah's cookies (108,046) by BFF from United States
Has anyone on the board ever ordered cookies from here? I always wondered what made Mariah want to do this, but it must be making money if it's still in existence. The reviews I see on Google are not very good lol.
(Friday 24 January 2025; 16:46)
Favorite cover song on the wrong album (108,045) by BFF from United States
"I Want to Know What Love Is" definitely fit in with her 90s output more than on "Memoirs". She covered a lot of similar 80s power ballads on her 90s albums.

I think it would have been cool to hear her cover "One More Try" during that period as well. The state of her voice just wasn't cutting it on the "Me I Am Mariah" recording of that song.
(Friday 24 January 2025; 16:12)
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Anderson .Paak (107,938) by BFF from United States
It's strange to see the news about Anderson Paak and Mariah together considering Mariah was just linked with Lenny Kravitz earlier this year. I'm excited about Mariah collaborating with Anderson Paak on new music - I really liked his first album and think he can bring a fresh sound to Mariah's work.

However, I worry about her getting involved again with someone she also works with professionally - it didn't work out well in the past. I liked the idea of Mariah and Lenny together better than Mariah and Anderson because they are around the same age and are not working together professionally.
(Monday 6 January 2025; 21:36)
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Album sales (107,879) by BFF from United States
Jay-Z's number one records as featured artist:
"Heartbreaker" with Mariah
"Crazy in Love" with Beyoncé
"Umbrella" with Rihanna

Jay-Z's number one records as main artist:
"Empire State of Mind" with Alicia Keys

The Recording Academy undermined the value of Grammy awards when they decided to give more awards to Beyonce than Aretha Franklin.
(Friday 27 December 2024; 14:44)
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Could it be possible (107,752) by BFF from United States
I completely forgot about "Tipsy". Why are such mediocre songs topping the charts for these long stretches? Lol.
(Wednesday 4 December 2024; 17:49)
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And somewhere on the Billboard charts (107,742) by BFF from United States
Go Mariah go. We need to retake that record for song with most weeks at #1 back from Lil Nas X.
(Tuesday 3 December 2024; 19:37)
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Celebrity endorsements (107,635) by BFF from United States
My guess is that Mariah was put off by the Harris campaign's embrace of Eminem as a surrogate. It was interesting that Obama and Eminem appeared together to help VP Harris become the first woman president when we all know Eminem has spent decades calling Mariah Carey every misogynistic word in the dictionary and recording songs with all manner of homophobic and misogynistic slurs.
(Tuesday 12 November 2024; 16:55)
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Christmas tour 2024 (107,618) by BFF from United States
I have seen some clips on YouTube. Mariah looks great, but my sense is that the show is almost entirely pre-recorded like the recent Vegas residency shows, even the intermission with her children. Maybe this is just the norm now for most major artists?
(Sunday 10 November 2024; 13:52)
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AMAs performance (107,502) by BFF from United States
The AMAs performance seemed lip-synched to me, but I guess the vocals could have been compiled from multiple takes like someone else mentioned. Mariah seemed a little more energetic than she has been at the Vegas residency, so that was a plus.

I wonder if she is planning something to coincide with the actual 20th anniversary of TEOM's release date next year. There is least one song from those sessions ("When I Feel It") that isn't available on streaming, and maybe there are some other unreleased songs from those sessions.

I'm bidding my time for when Mariah finally does some sort of "Glitter" re-release/celebration. She worked on the film and the soundtrack for approximately 3-4 years, so there's bound to be a ton of material buried somewhere. And we still don't have EPs for "Loverboy", "Never Too Far", "Never Too Far/Hero", "Don't Stop", etc. I guess Virgin Records hasn't been easy to work with on that front.
(Friday 11 October 2024; 19:25)
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Reflections (Care Enough) (107,425) by BFF from United States
It is really unique amongst her ballads. The liner notes indicate that she composed it with someone named Philippe Pierre. I've never heard her mention him in any interviews before, and I wonder how that collaboration came about. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis are credited as co-producers on it.
(Saturday 28 September 2024; 19:13)
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AMA's (107,412) by BFF from United States
Billboard reports that she will perform a medley of songs from "The Emancipation of Mimi".
(Thursday 26 September 2024; 15:26)
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Angels Advocate tour (107,327) by BFF from United States
I was at the Atlanta show as well. That was my second Mariah show. I previously went to the Atlanta date of the The Adventures of Mimi tour. I honestly liked the Angels Advocate show better. The Fox Theatre is a way better venue than Phillips Arena.
(Friday 6 September 2024; 19:04)
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Mariah's mom and sister died on the same day (107,270) by BFF from United States
My heart goes out to Mariah right now. I know the relationships with her sister and mother were both strained. It sounds like she and her mother were able to mend fences, but it doesn't sound like there was a similar chance with Alison. I hope Mariah has a solid support system around her. I can understand both the pro and con arguments for reconciling with Morgan.
(Tuesday 27 August 2024; 16:48)
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Christmas shows (107,187) by BFF from United States
I'm so sorry to hear this. I'm sending kind thoughts your way. Listen to "Anytime You Need a Friend" and know that everyone on the board is rooting for you.
(Sunday 11 August 2024; 13:32)
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Gospel or Jazz album before MC16 (107,186) by BFF from United States
I can assure you that she is receiving zero "hate" for coming out as "bisexual" in 2024. But she's definitely receiving understandable eye rolls from people who can see that it's motivated by a desire for attention. In 2024, you don't broadcast your personal life like this unless your motivation is publicity.

I contrast Morris with Tracy Chapman and Luther Vandross, both of whom had lots of speculation about their sexual orientation but had enough class to swat people away when asked about it. It's not normal to broadcast this kind of thing and definitely not when you're recently divorced with a young son.

And from personal experience, I can tell you that "waiting until later in life" is not a luxury that many gay men and lesbian women have had.
(Sunday 11 August 2024; 13:27)
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Gospel or Jazz album before MC16 (107,175) by BFF from United States
Maren Morris is an attention-seeking narcissist lol. I cannot stand it when celebrities come out as "bisexual" or "queer" for the cool factor. It's such a slap in the face to those of us who have been openly gay or lesbian since before it was cool to identify as "LGBTQ+".

My question to Morris is, why get married to a man and have a child with him if you always harbored these thoughts? I think people who harbor doubts about their sexual orientation have an obligation to tell people they are planning to marry and with whom they are planning to have children. It isn't fair to the children, and it isn't fair to the ex-spouse. And, yes, before anyone accuses me of sexism or "biphobia", I would argue the same in situations where the person in question is male or if the person in question was a gay man or lesbian woman.
(Saturday 10 August 2024; 18:22)
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Return to roots (107,157) by BFF from United States
I'm definitely in the 90s Mariah camp... and generally in the 90s camp for any musical artist/genre. I've been alternating between the 90s R&B, 90s Soft Rock, 90s Singer-Songwriter and 90s Alternative playlists on Apple Music as well as the 90s Pop Hits by year on there. It's fun to put the "1995 Pop Hits" playlist on and hear everything from Mariah and TLC to Hootie & the Blowfish and Sheryl Crow.
(Friday 9 August 2024; 00:16)
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Return to roots (107,144) by BFF from United States
I think the last chance Mariah had to "return to her roots" was in 2013/14 with "The Art of Letting Go" before it became "Me I Am Mariah" (still hate that album title). Many of the songs on that album were quite good, but they were ignored because of the delays and poor launch. The accident during the #Beautiful music video, the divorce from Nick, and Stella's subsequent push for the holiday shows and the Vegas residencies really hindered any chances of recording being Mariah's main focus.

What Mariah needs to do is focus on getting into better physical and vocal condition so she can deliver solid live performances that match the prices that fans pay to see her live. Touring and live performances are where the money is made now, not on album sales. Confidence on stage could translate into more inspired studio albums, but we really need to see an improvement in the performances first. And if there is a chronic health condition contributing (as with Celine Dion or Linda Ronstadt), she really needs to address it.
(Wednesday 7 August 2024; 20:41)
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The girl who lipped wolf (107,100) by BFF from United States
Meant to say that Celine *has not* lip synced entire shows. Pardon my typo.
(Sunday 4 August 2024; 17:23)
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