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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Re: Mariah Carey = Taylor Swift (78,699) (78,708) by Bill from the UK They’re clearly not. (Monday 9 October 2017; 23:25)

Re: Mariah Carey = Taylor Swift (78,692) (78,696) by Bill from the UK According you Damizza, "Don't Forget About Us" is about their relationship. He titled his book chapter on MC that. I think "Thirsty" is also about him, though the die hards are convinced it's about Nick, which it so isn't. (Monday 9 October 2017; 10:32)

Re: Good Morning Britain (78,647) (78,653) by Bill from the UK Stellactic Empire. We have to make that a thing on this board. (Wednesday 4 October 2017; 21:42)

Re: Butterfly bonus tracks (78,619) (78,630) by Bill from the UK Yes same. In my youth I collected every foreign release I could to make sure I had every remix just in case she ad-libbed a line differently. I downloaded all her concerts from torrent sites to make sure I had every different line. That dried up in later years but the thought of there being unreleased material out there is unbearable. (Monday 2 October 2017; 22:08)

Re: Butterfly bonus tracks (78,618) (78,628) (78,629) by Bill from the UK I agree, especially as Mariah has said it was her favourite album and is always at the top of fan lists and highlighted by critics as her career making moment too. A picture disc on vinyl is great, but I would have loved, as you say, all the remixes collected (and some new/previously unreleased ones, especially the Butterfly remixes), a retrospective from MC about each track and the composition etc., footage from the Butterfly tour (again, unreleased would be great), and any tracks that didn't make it out of the recording sessions alive. It's a great body of work and I wish she would have given it the attention and love it deserves. Maybe for the 25th. (Monday 2 October 2017; 22:03)

Re: Butterfly bonus tracks (78,618) (78,620) by Bill from the UK Except Why You Mad of course. (Monday 2 October 2017; 17:23)

Re: Butterfly bonus tracks (78,614) (78,618) by Bill from the UK There was something on Internet forums in the 90s about a track called "Let Me Know" that was meant for Butterfly but never made it. In the fullness of time, the message seemed genuine as they also mentioned "Lead the Way" which then appeared on Glitter. I'd love to hear it. I'm sorry but I want to hear every track Mariah has ever recorded, ever. (Monday 2 October 2017; 14:42)

Always Be My Baby (Reggae Soul Mix) (78,585) by Bill from the UK I always loved the instrumentation to this remix and thought ABMB really suited a reggae beat. One thing I didn't love about it though, was Lil Vicious. To me, the remix is ruined by him blurting out nonsensical incoherent phrases after every line Mariah sings. I know of three versions of the remix: Reggae Soul Mix, Reggae Soul Dub and Reggae Soul Acapella. Is there one without Lil Vicious that anyone is aware of? He really does vandalise what would have been a really cool version. (Thursday 28 September 2017; 07:28)

Re: I was wonderding (78,580) (78,581) by Bill from the UK Betcha is one of Mariah's best songs in my opinion. I was listening to Memoirs the other day, which I rarely do (I tend to stay within the 90s), but realised I actually like every song on the album. Betcha's lyrics are brilliant, it's a real "visual" song where you can play the scenes unfolding in your mind as she sings the lines. But, "you're acting so corny like fritos" also is worthy of merit. (Wednesday 27 September 2017; 22:20)

Re: I was wonderding (78,577) (78,579) by Bill from the UK And following on from Migrate, we also need to bring to everyone's attention how E=MC2 had the total wrong choices as singles. That album's propulsion ended as soon as Bye Bye hit the shelves. (Wednesday 27 September 2017; 16:54)

Re: I was wonderding (78,565) (78,569) by Bill from the UK It should have been a single. (Wednesday 27 September 2017; 02:22)

Re: Just found (78,553) (78,556) by Bill from the UK Hahah, I love that Did I Do That stopped you listening to the album so much. Did I Do That, like Boy, is a pimple on the beautiful face of Mariah's song book catalogue. I remember listening to that song the first time and my heart just sinking. I had barely got over the album cover and then when that song hit I was like, wow, this is even lower lol. But I persevered and Petals and Rainbow did kind of help bring the album back a bit, but yeh it's one of the reasons I don't spin Rainbow that much these days. (Tuesday 26 September 2017; 14:28)

Re: Forgotten jams (78,550) (78,552) by Bill from the UK Breakdown is brilliant, I agree about it being a blueprint for a perfect collab. Like Mariah, I wish it could have been a single in the US and Europe so it had its day in the sun, but hey ho. Another MC endorsement was for that war game thing she did. (Tuesday 26 September 2017; 07:20)

Re: Beacon (78,529) (78,533) by Bill from the UK That awful diabetes inducing Butterfly drink she was flogging at Walgreens too. (Monday 25 September 2017; 18:41)

Re: EMC stripped versions of MC songs (78,513) (78,514) by Bill from the UK You beat me to it (exclamation mark). There are also very pleasant stripped versions of AYNAF and I Still Believe. The acapella of AYNAF is on that great Mariah's Vocals channel for any of y'all interested. It goes all the way out to the extended ending. I would love to hear the acapellas for Vision of Love, Can't Let Go and Without You. (Sunday 24 September 2017; 16:10)

Re: Occult (78,492) (78,493) by Bill from the UK My favourite line from that song Terna is "you're delusional". (Thursday 21 September 2017; 16:43)

Re: Hero music video (78,474) (78,491) by Bill from the UK Mariah did indeed move during the Hero video, and what a great timeless video it was. She was swaying in time with the rhythm of the song, she made big swooping hand gestures to drive home the emotion and the lyrics, she threw her head back at the crescendo, it was probably as choreographed as any ballet, but it came off as natural and confident and elegant. She was able to walk up to the microphone unaided and gave her beautiful, graceful performance. All her ballad performances from the 90s followed the format and were a joy to watch. They emphasised her incredible vocal talents and didn't detract from the song but also gave some flair and flourishes where necessary. You cannot compare that horrific Honey performance to the Hero video, end of. (Thursday 21 September 2017; 15:23)

Just to say... (78,468) by Bill from the UK Migrate should have been a single. Sorry, it's just it has been a while since anyone said that. Carry on. (Wednesday 20 September 2017; 23:21)

Re: VH1 performance was disrepectful (78,433) (78,436) by Bill from the UK Mariah's performances do make me uneasy. Not because of the lip syncing or the inability to move more than a foot unaided, but because there is this underlying concern. There is something seriously wrong with her. Like a health issue that is being masked as best as it can be. No corset or high heel can have that affect. Where's the Mariah who was running up and down the stage at the Grammy's belting out "Fly Like A Bird"? Or even the Mariah from the home video concerts who moved with grace and elegance and confidence? She is either, as you say, so entrenched in her alcoholism that she can only be wheeled out to lip sync and stand on the "x", or she is heavily medicated. My concern is that this woman I have loved dearly since 1993 will wind up in a casket before her time just like Michael and Whitney. And just like those two, the evidence was all around us, and no one did anything. (Wednesday 20 September 2017; 01:22)

Re: Article: Mariah is stiff as a board in Hip Hop Honors performance (78,420) (78,434) by Bill from the UK I would give Mariah a pass for not moving if she actually sang and belted out Honey, but she lipped the entire thing. I get why artists like Britney and Madonna lip their performances, as their dance routines are intense. Mariah doesn't even have to walk, but still can't sing a single note. It's all just smoke and mirrors. Just retire already. (Wednesday 20 September 2017; 00:32)

Re: Butterfly20 (78,387) (78,392) by Bill from the UK Great post Mara, I couldn't put it any better. I've been listening to the album non stop since the anniversary. It's amazing. I am still discovering things buried in the background even after my 10,000th listen or whatever it is now lol. Even more so now those acapella leaks have highlighted other nuances I wasn't aware of. It really is a stunning album. (Sunday 17 September 2017; 19:48)

Babydoll (acapella) (78,369) by Bill from the UK Beautiful acapella version of Babydoll. Those harmonies, wow. Happy 20th Butterfly. (Saturday 16 September 2017; 07:14)

Re: One sweet day (Acapella) (78,350) (78,352) by Bill from the UK The acapella version of OSD is one of my most favourite remixes. Great shout. (Friday 15 September 2017; 00:27)

Re: Miss You Most at Christmas Time (78,316) (78,321) by Bill from the UK Jade thank you, that note made my day. Unfortunately I won't be able to afford to go to her concert which is a real shame, but I really hope you all have a great time. Please take lots of pictures and videos as I'd love for you to share them. (Thursday 7 September 2017; 23:33)

Re: Miss You Most at Christmas Time (78,310) (78,313) by Bill from the UK I know, it's a beautiful song and a great original composition. Guess it would kind of kill the mood though as it is very sad. (Thursday 7 September 2017; 20:39)

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