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About Bill from the UK: I love Mariah more than you do. London Daydream Tour Attendee.

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,813) by Bill from the UK It's probably right. All those artists you listed are incredibly popular, absolute juggernauts of the industry. Way more popular than Mariah was during her peak. The only real comparable is Celine. Her career is longer, her hits bigger, her tours and residencies gross more, and her sales likely bigger at this point. Mariah's career is great, but others have had better ones. (Sunday 4 June 2023; 09:38) this is a reply to message 102,811

Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,811) by Nicole from US So on the first of June, Forbes published a list of the richest self-made women, 100 women in fields of careers. For music, Rihanna (20) leads $1.4B, Taylor (34), Madonna (45), Beyoncé (48), Celine (56), Dolly Parton (59) and Barbra (61) with $430M. I cannot help but think if this list is even accurate or does Mariah not share her income accurately in tax books lol. (Sunday 4 June 2023; 02:25)

Randy follow up (102,794) by Bill from the UK It's difficult to trust Wikipedia as that also said Mariah wrote All My Life when she didn't. Anyone can add nonsense to an article. I find it odd Mariah would say, in her own words, that she didn't write the song and also didn't like it when she, according to some, did write and produce it? (Wednesday 31 May 2023; 09:56) this is a reply to message 102,793

Randy follow up (102,793) by Bobby A from United States According to Wikipedia, the original songwriters were commissioned by Disney. When MC signed on to sing Almost Home, she and producers Stargate changed it a bit and Almost Home became what was released. It's funny the website the Singersroom says that Sia Furler wrote the song with the other songwriters. It does have a Sia influenced melody during the lyrics. Could she be a ghost songwriter on the song? She was extremely popular then as a songwriter. (Wednesday 31 May 2023; 00:42)

Randy follow up (102,792) by Bill from the UK Source? I quoted directly from Mariah's book. (Tuesday 30 May 2023; 18:33) this is a reply to message 102,788

Randy follow up (102,788) by Nikki from usa Almost Home - Mariah actually did write a song for that, but after she turned it in they practically re-wrote the entire thing. That's not what she wrote, but that's why they gave her a writing credit. She was still under contract, so when studio time came for her to sing it and she saw the finished project wasn't her song, she still had to sing it. The second part of songwriting is "how" you sing it, I'm not sure how much of the original of Mariah's writing in that sense made it to the final product either. However, it sounds like Mariah's style during the climax with all the extra Mariahs. (Tuesday 30 May 2023; 13:06)

Best song intro (102,782) by Bill from the UK Tina Arena is fantastic, especially her "Don't Ask" and "In Deep" albums, but I don't think she sounds or looks enough like Mariah to be able to do a convincing portrayal. As she also sings French language songs, I thought she'd be perfect to play Celine one of these days. (Sunday 28 May 2023; 16:48) this is a reply to message 102,780

Best song intro (102,780) by Bobby A from United States You're so right, Matty. The Bachelorette commercial is what prompted my post. I was moving around cleaning in my living room and I heard the Fantasy intro and MC's iconic voice. I think that Fantasy has been used more in past 5 years in commercials and movies than any other MC song. 1990-1999 will always be the years that non fans will know Mariah Carey for her work and artistry. Cheers to the queen of iconic songs and intros and that voice back then. I hope that we get biopic movie in the next five years played by the Australian singer and actress Tina Arena. (Sunday 28 May 2023; 11:57)

Rainbow was bigger than Daydream (102,749) by Bill from the UK Whilst Rainbow did indeed have great opening first week sales, Daydream remains Mariah's second-biggest seller after Music Box. I also don't think the singles from Rainbow had the lasting impact that Fantasy, Always Be My Baby and One Sweet Day had. And although the Rainbow tour was a lot of fun, it can't compare to the Daydream tour. Rainbow is great and underrated, but there is some filler, and the recording/mastering is one of her worst ever. Plus it's the home for Did I Do That, and the less said about that monstrosity the better. (Sunday 21 May 2023; 07:51) this is a reply to message 102,745

Rainbow was bigger than Daydream (102,745) by Bobby A from United States Well, here it is as I promised. I am probably going to get a lot of push back for making this statement. This is why I have made such a bold statement. Rainbow was MC's liberation album. She had creative authority to do what she wanted to on Rainbow. She wanted to fulfill her contractual obligations to Sony Music. So she recorded Rainbow in 6 months. The recording of Rainbow has been her shortest time ever to record an album. The Heartbreaker single Jay-Z feature was a first for MC. It was the first time in her career that another artist was featured on one her lead singles. MC wrote ballads that were closer to R&B than pop for Rainbow. Many of the ballads mirrored sentiments she experienced in her personal life. The first week album sales of 323,000 were the highest in her career at the time. It was the first time a single's remix was featured on the album's initial release. Mariah started this trend that many R&B/Hip Hop have duplicated. It was the first time a Mariah Carey album had two interludes included in the album's tracklisting. The Biana alter ego was introduced. The Heartbreaker video was more expensive than Fantasy. Heartbreaker is one of the most expensive videos ever made costing 2.5 million. Promotion and tour was bigger than Daydream. Agree or disagree? (Saturday 20 May 2023; 20:56)

Favorite 90s singles cover (102,734) by Bill from the UK Haha. I forgot it, then added it last minute and my messages got combined lol. But yes, #11. (Monday 15 May 2023; 14:57) this is a reply to message 102,732

Favorite 90s singles cover (102,732) by TJ from Norway Is Make it Happen #11? (Monday 15 May 2023; 11:05)

Favorite 90s singles cover (102,730) by Bill from the UK So many to choose and so many are great. My faves: 1. Vision of Love 2. Can't Let Go 3. Dreamlover 4. Without You 5. Anytime You Need a Friend 6. All I Want for Christmas Is You 7. Fantasy 8. Open Arms 9. Always Be My Baby 10. Always Be My Baby UK exclusive cover Of those ten, my absolute best is probably Without You. Maybe Can't Let Go. And Make It Happen. (Monday 15 May 2023; 03:26) this is a reply to message 102,719

Favorite 90s singles cover (102,719) by Bobby A from United States My favorite 90s singles cover is Never Forget You/Without You. I love this cover because of the beige/almond background and MC's innocent pose. What is your favorite 90s singles cover? (Saturday 13 May 2023; 14:15)

Randy follow up (102,693) by Bill from the UK Hi Randy, not that I'm one to spend my life trying to disprove others, but I knew deep down in my soul something was telling me Mariah didn't write "Almost Home" and I finally remembered. It was in her memoir, she wrote this: "I love to collaborate with people, but in the rare instances when I've done other people's songs, I haven't liked it. There was a Disney song I did five, six years ago called "Almost Home", and I never really liked it. No offence to whoever wrote it, and I did it because Disney wanted me to do it, but it didn't feel like me at all." So where does this leave us with our tally? (Monday 8 May 2023; 23:38)

Good Lord, just enjoy the show (102,688) by Bill from the UK Point out a part of the show that was enjoyable and I'll go check it out. (Monday 8 May 2023; 14:53) this is a reply to message 102,687

Good Lord, just enjoy the show (102,687) by Chicago Lamb from USA "There's people called haters and we give them positivity." Why do some nit-pic and criticize? Is is because you have a platform to do it? Is it off-base expectation? Time to think about it. Just enjoy the show. (Monday 8 May 2023; 14:24)

New low? (102,686) by Bill from the UK All of your message Terna makes sense and comes from a place of love. The only area I'd differ is on the surgery. At this point, what on earth is there left to lose? Her voice has gone. You, me, even J. Lo could have gone up on that stage and delivered better vocals than Mariah did. Everything good is lipped, everything live is either flat, off key, or sounds painful. Boyz II Men gave a dignified, decent performance, and sounded absolutely fine 25 odd years after Madison Square Garden. Mariah was absolutely dreadful by comparison. We are all hurting here, and it seems the lipped Vision of Love was the eye opener for many. Some of us, myself included, have been beating this drum for a long time. The reality is, her voice has gone. How she lost it so rapidly doesn't really matter. Her options now are surgery, or resign. (Monday 8 May 2023; 13:46) this is a reply to message 102,681

New low? (102,681) by Terna from Nigeria Let's not be too hard on her, and still remember that she might be doing the best she can with what's left of her ability right now, which from the clips we saw is not much. Her voice issues are serious seeing as how many times she kept sipping tea and still it wasn't enough. At this point, her options are slim – it's voice therapy or the much dreaded surgery. Being in her shoes must be very scary as we all know what happened to Bonnie Tyler's voice and Julie Andrews more recently. I know it scares Mariah to think of surgery and putting her gift, career and future all on the line. What I want to see Mariah do is a lifestyle change and to seek professional help. Build your voice from the ground back up again with a voice therapist and a vocal coach, those exercises really do work. Find out what you've been doing wrong and correct that technique. You'll be surprised how much of her vocal problems are superficial. (Monday 8 May 2023; 10:28)

The whistle or the complete voice? (102,671) by Bill from the UK I'd rather she didn't lip anything if I'm honest. All I want is for her to sing a song live end to end like she was able to 1990-1996. No one would mind or be disappointed if she announced her upper register was no longer available going forward given her age. It is nothing more than a gimmick now as I've said previously, any studio notes are heavily engineered and she hasn't hit a live one in decades, so really, what is the point of them? As for surgery, there is the rumour that she had surgery after the Daydream tour and that is why her voice was never the same from 1997 onwards. We will never know the actual truth of the matter because Mariah refuses to acknowledge there is anything wrong, or that anything has changed. This leads to perhaps unfair speculation. She squandered her gift through drinking, she squandered her gift through drugs, she squandered her gift by not looking after her voice properly etc. It could be a medical issue, it could be she has a degenerative illness (which would explain why she can't move on stage unaided), it could be a whole host of reasons. Point is, until she does that candid to-camera confession and opens up, we won't ever know. I get lambasted on here by the Yass Queen Gang, but honestly, I love her too much. I would cry with relief and love and support her and champion her more than I ever have done previously if she only was brave enough to open her heart and let us in. I can only speak for myself, but I love her more than whistle notes and number one records. I love her for who she is and what she has brought to my life. All I ever want is for her to be happy, healthy, and loved. She has given me so much, and all I can ever give her back is my love. If only she'd let me. (Sunday 7 May 2023; 15:35) this is a reply to message 102,670

The whistle or the complete voice? (102,670) by TheWind from England If it's true that Mariah has nodules on her vocals that have damaged her voice, but allow her to facilitate the whistle register, what would you rather? Mariah to get surgery and lose the whistle register, but return to an overall healthy voice, or maintain the whistle register and continue to work around the nodules? This is a purely speculative post, as I don't know that she has nodules etc, and I have no clue what's wrong with her voice. If it is true, I'd much rather she lip whistle notes for the rest of her career and sing everything in between in a healthy voice. (Sunday 7 May 2023; 13:53)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,663) by Bill from the UK Hmmm. Not sure where you got that information from Randy, but the Glitter booklet says "All My Life" was written by Rick James and nobody else. I stand corrected on "Almost Home", please forgive me. (Friday 5 May 2023; 17:16) this is a reply to message 102,660

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,660) by Randy from USA Ummmm Bill dahling, I did some digging and MC is given writing credits on both All My Life and Almost Home so I think my statement stands. When You Believe is the only original song she has recorded with no writing credit on. Webmaster E. That's your rap name. I think the award is for the lyrics and melody. I don't think it was awarded for only the film version or they would've had the actresses sing it at the Oscars and not MC and Whitney. I think no matter what you do to a song musically, the lyric and melody credit always goes to the original songwriter and the producer that adds to or changes it still doesn't get writing credit, just whatever producer credit he's entitled to because he added to it. (Friday 5 May 2023; 04:48)

Hopelessly Devoted to You (102,662) by Bill from the UK At long last, Mariah and Olivia Newton-John's duet is available for the first time on ONJ's album Just the Two of Us. Annoyingly, it is still the edited version from the Around the World DVD, and not the full length version. (Friday 5 May 2023; 09:03)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,657) by Bill from the UK All My Life from Glitter and Almost Home were also original songs that Mariah didn't write. (Thursday 4 May 2023; 23:34) this is a reply to message 102,655

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,655) by Randy from USA The award goes to the songwriter. That I believe is the only original song, she's ever done that she didn't write. (Thursday 4 May 2023; 22:17)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,648) by Bill from the UK Randy, I love that you will always fly the "Right to Dream" flag. (Wednesday 3 May 2023; 20:25) this is a reply to message 102,647

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame plus Tony (102,647) by Randy from USA So again MC doesn't make it? And every relevant pop diva has (Madonna, Janet and Whitney). I'm disgusted. But yass queens and delusionals will say she doesn't need it, she's broken records and she's a legend in her own right. The Tony award nomination is exciting. Imagine if MC was to eventually earn an EGOT. She should've been nominated for an Oscar for Right To Dream. Oh shut up y'all. (Wednesday 3 May 2023; 17:25)

What is your initial fan story? (102,625) by Bill from the UK My brother was watching the MTV countdown and I walked into the room as "Dreamlover" came on. I stood there, "mesmerised". The song, her voice, the video, her look. I fell in love that day and life was never the same again. I had no idea what a huge part of my life, and my heart, she would go on to take. (Monday 24 April 2023; 22:43) this is a reply to message 102,618

What is your initial fan story? (102,618) by Bobby A from United States What fascinated you about MC at any era that compelled you to become a lifetime fan? For me, it was Love Takes Time. Hearing this gem constantly on the radio made me know I was going to be a fan for life. (Monday 24 April 2023; 01:02)

Legacy (102,607) by Bill from the UK I even question how good the whistle register is these days. She hasn't done a live whistle in maybe, what, 10 years? The worst thing is how it birthed a bunch of awful "singers" on YouTube who think by screeching and sticking a finger in their ear that they are able to effectively use that register. The finger-in-the-ear gimmick is just that, a gimmick. In live performances from 1990-1992, she only occasionally did it, and it was usually when she was pitchy (which makes sense). But then she started to dub and lip sync her performances from 1996ish, so now it's all theatrics to mask the fact she's obviously lip syncing them. The yaas queens also make those stupid videos on YouTube with a heading like "Mariah Carey Can't Sing" and then try to disprove it by showcasing lipped performances as apparently live, or flashing up a "G5" for a nano-second as she barks out a note. When Mariah retires/is no longer with us, those videos will be overshadowing performances like "If It's Over" and her perfect 1990-1995 run. As much as I think AIWFCIY is the best thing she's ever done, I also agree that she's more than just that. Will she become another Bing Crosby? I can't even think of a single song he's done other than "White Christmas", though he's probably released about 30 albums. I heard "Vision of Love" on the radio when I was driving the other day and almost mounted the curb in my state of disbelief. Firstly because the only song other than AIWFCIY to get played on UK mainstream radio is "Hero" and maybe "I'll Be There". But it was incredible to hear it live on the radio. It sounded beautiful as the radio adds that certain brightness and magic to songs. I don't think I've even answered your question, but there we go. (Saturday 22 April 2023; 13:29) this is a reply to message 102,605

Legacy (102,605) by Randy from USA One of the things that bother me with the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens is the over celebration of AIWFCIY. A few years ago the older Stans were on here arguing what MC's signature song was. We tentatively settled on Hero. But now it's clear what she's going to be known for if this yearly record keeps happening. I think that the noise around that song fades away some of the most amazing singer songwriter compositions ever recorded. Mariah Carey is more than some relic you drag out of the closet and dust off on November 1st. Another damaging thing that the newer fans, delusionals and yass queens celebrate is her whistle register. Yes it is lovely. But that register doesn't make a great singer. I remember in the promotion for Emotions she said she didn't use it more on the track because she didn't want it to become a gimmick. She laid off it quite a bit on Music Box and Daydream but when the voice changed around #1s it was on full display for Rainbow. I think it's a crutch used to prove she can still sing. But if you have lost your belting register, are you gonna whistle your next albums? I just worry that Mariah's career is in a bleak spot and people are shining spotlights on things that narrow her legacy to a whistling Christmas act. Thoughts? (Saturday 22 April 2023; 03:34)

Female singers (102,575) by Bill from the UK "Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder." No one likes to say it, but the other side to this is that marrying Tommy made her lose a lot of credibility. There was a question mark over her success because she was cleverly married to the boss of the record company. If Tommy could quite easily sabotage her career, he could quite easily make her successful. Her most successful years 1993-1997. The years she was Tommy's wife? 1993-1997. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:19) this is a reply to message 102,572

Female singers (102,572) by BFF from United States I think each case is unique, and I don't think this is necessarily an issue of industry sexism. Britney Spears and her management chose for her to have an inappropriately sexualized image from the start of her career, and I believe that is the genesis of a lot of her issues. Britney could push herself harder on the choreography front because she didn't write/produce her own material and never sang live. I believe Mariah overworked herself due to her deep-seated insecurity around identity, the chaotic/dysfunctional nature of her childhood, and her decision to become romantically involved with her boss (Tommy). It definitely did not help when Nelson George called her a "white girl who can sing black" and when people started setting her against Whitney Houston. And let's be honest, Whitney and her fans wish that she had written and sang a song as great as "Vision of Love". Still grinds my gears that Whitney is seen as having more "credibility" when she didn't write or produce a damn word of her own material. Marrying Tommy was a massive mistake because it meant she had zero separation between her personal and professional life, a recipe for burnout. And when it became clear that Tommy was sabotaging her during the 1998-2001 period, she had to work that much harder. But really ever since 2001, Mariah has been pretty relaxed on the career front. Long periods between studio albums, some touring but nothing as strenuous as what other artists do, detours into movies. I don't think Mariah has pushed herself particularly hard since the early 2000s. The bottom line is that all people in the entertainment business opted into this for their career and can walk away at any time if it's too much for them. They all have the privilege of earning a living from something other people do as a hobby. (Tuesday 18 April 2023; 16:20)

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,548) by Bill from the UK Lol yeh. Because she's never mentioned that before. (Thursday 13 April 2023; 15:27) this is a reply to message 102,546

New Mariah titles (one word) (102,546) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia I want Mariah's new album titled as "The Rise of Black Irish" or just simply "Black Irish". I can imagine what would Mariah say when the interviewer ask, "Why you named this album as Black Irish?" Then she would reply "Because I am a Black Irish, I do darling. My mom is Irish and my dad is Black Venezuelan." (Thursday 13 April 2023; 08:17)

New album titles, what's your fave? (102,532) by Bill from the UK Galactic Diva gets my vote. A space themed album from Mariah would be epic haha. (Tuesday 11 April 2023; 18:42) this is a reply to message 102,531

New album titles, what's your fave? (102,531) by Bobby A from United States I love Supernova Symphony. (Tuesday 11 April 2023; 17:39)

New album titles, what's your fave? (102,528) by Bill from the UK I asked ChatGPT to come up with some potential album titles for Mariah's next album, here's what it came up with: "Eternal Love Affair" "Heavenly Highs" "Diamond Dreams" "Cosmic Serenade" "Supernova Symphony" "Celestial Rhapsody" "Galactic Diva" "Majestic Melodies" "Orbiting Oasis" "Stellar Sonata" What's your fave? (Tuesday 11 April 2023; 14:17)

Edward (102,471) by Bill from the UK Happy Anniversary Edward. (Wednesday 5 April 2023; 15:37) this is a reply to message 102,470

Edward (102,470) by Edward from USA How dare you. I'm 28. Thank you. (Wednesday 5 April 2023; 13:33)

Observation (102,433) by Bill from the UK Michael Jordan doesn't use studio trickery and smoke and mirrors to pretend he still can jump though. (Sunday 2 April 2023; 00:46) this is a reply to message 102,431

Observation (102,431) by Lady B from USA So much so that folks can't bring themselves to wish her Happy Anniversary? Come on now. Also, assuming what you say is true, do Michael Jordan fans constant bemoan him because he cannot jump the same way he did when he was 23? (Saturday 1 April 2023; 21:38)

Mariah vs MC (102,400) by Bill from the UK Whatever happened to her voice in 1997 happened. With the loss of the ability to sing her songs well and fluidly like she did in prior years, the focus had to shift. So, musically the songs became less demanding vocally, the "I'm a songwriter first" narrative was cranked up to the max, and she became more concerned with her look than her voice. She should have said at the time what had happened to her voice and adapted her back catalogue and future songs accordingly. Instead she chose to prolong the facade with studio trickery, dubbing and lip syncing and now it's all gone too far. Those who know, know. Mariah Carey 1990-1996. 1997 onwards, someone else. (Sunday 26 March 2023; 13:33) this is a reply to message 102,399

Mariah vs MC (102,399) by Jamie from UK Ok as a 90's fan of Mariah and a continued fan to this day, I've always struggled with Mariah and MC. Whilst I like them both I'm more swayed towards Mariah. I've always wondered what she thinks, as Mariah did she always want to break away and be MC, or now does she long to be Mariah again? I say this because she always says how controlled she was, yet now every opportunity she gets she shows pics etc of her earlier career. Watching her earlier videos she is so natural and composed something I don't think can be forced or mimicked. So I often wonder who is the the real Mariah/MC? Don't get me wrong I love both, but I often wonder what happened that made the drastic change, I don't believe it was all Tommy as he could have dressed her in all he liked, but like I said you can't mimic those natural early performances. I get people change, I've changed myself, but not so drastically like she has. I always wonder who the happiest one was. To me she looks more happy in the early Mariah days when she was more wholesome, but would love to hear your spin on things. This all came from watching ATYNAF from Proctors Theatre, which to me is one of her best performances. I'm not looking to be judgmental I'm honestly just looking for peoples spin on things as it genuinely interests me. (Sunday 26 March 2023; 01:52)

Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,380) by Bill from the UK "Without You" was #1 in Austria, Belgium, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. (Thursday 23 March 2023; 13:18) this is a reply to message 102,379

Biggest non #1 hit after 33 years (102,379) by MusicfanJ from Germany Definitely "Without you". This song will stay forever and still is one of her signature sounds, loved by so many people, not only fans. Then there follows with a huge distance "When you believe", "I know what you want" and "It's like that". (Thursday 23 March 2023; 12:27)

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