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About Matty from Vancouver Canada:
I love music of all kinds, with R&B and pop toping my list of favourite genres. I've been a Mariah fan since Charmbraclet, there was something about that album that connects on a deep level. Other favourite albums are Glitter, Daydream, The Emancipation of Mimi, and Me. I Am Mariah.
My Favourite Mariah Songs are: The Art of Letting Go, Fantasy & Shake It Off.
My Least Favourite album is Music Box.
My most start-to-finish listened album (don't-skip-a-track albums): Emotions, Butterfly, The Emancipation of Mimi and Me. I Am Mariah: The Elusive Chanteuse.
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Rumoured lead singles (106,910)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I've heard that "The One" was meant to be Charmbracelet's lead single:
I heard that "I'm That Chick" was meant to be E=MC2's first single from this album. (Brilliant if you're passing up the obvious popularity of Migrate. Lest sing together "Should have been a single".)
"The Art of Letting Go" for MIAM. (Powerful, after a divorce and having issues with her mom as she spoke in her memoir about. The simplicity of this ballet breaks my heart, cuts to my root, she's so clear and direct.)
Do we know of any other rumoured contenders for a lead singles of other albums aside from Charmbracelet, E=MC2 and MIAM?
(Saturday 20 July 2024; 02:37)
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E=MC2 off on the beaten path (106,870)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Yes, she stopped promo after the miscarriage. I think that loss really affected her.
(Friday 12 July 2024; 20:00)
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E=MC2 off on the beaten path (106,866)
by RL from USA
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I remember that album garnered the largest first week sales of her career. I always thought that she had to stop promotion of the album when she originally miscarried. I could be wrong, but if that's the case, it makes sense that she had more pressing things she needed to take care of.
(Friday 12 July 2024; 03:37)
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E=MC2 off on the beaten path (106,869)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I'll be Loving U Long Time is such an amazing song. They didn't need to add T.I on the single release and video. Bye Bye was a poor 2nd single choice. It should have been all upbeat summer singles; TMB, IBLULT, Migrate and I'm That Chick should have been the singles. All fun, summer, breezy, pure-fun-Riah. All four videos could also have been a 4 part story, much like ILT and WBT followed a story, all four videos telling a story would have been epic.
(Friday 12 July 2024; 19:59)
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E=MC2 off on the beaten path (106,868)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I love [I'll be loving you long time] - such a great summer song.
(Friday 12 July 2024; 10:17)
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Vacay summer playlist (106,835)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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My albums most associated with summer are Daydream (driving from Ontario to the east coast and sitting by the Atlantic in Halifax on family road trips).
E=MC2 is the most summer album she’s ever put out and I was in 2nd year uni and it was played at every house party while TMB and Migrate were also playing at the club.
MIAM with perfect summer songs like #Beautiful, Dedicated, Money, You Don’t Know What To Do To Me. My sister sitting at the beach in Vancouver splashing in the Pacific.
(Thursday 4 July 2024; 18:16)
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Vacay summer playlist (106,832)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I was wondering - do you have any particular Mariah song or an album that you play more during summer or vacation? A song that is linked with a certain memory that happened during summer, such as, romance, a fling, etc etc.
Loverboy and the whole Glitter album is my jam during summer. I have wonderful memories while driving in my car through Croatian seaside and blasting Loverboy from the speakers. I just turned 21 in 2001 and it was number one on our local chart and it was magical time. Great summer.
(Thursday 4 July 2024; 08:33)
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#1 Relevance, new album (106,796)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Randy, what? Fantasy, Honey and Heartbreaker, along with Hero and Touch My Body are among the most distinctive Mariah songs in the non-lamb people I know in my life, and get the most radio play. Honey and Heartbreaker's videos alone were two of the biggest videos during the MTV generation and fully resonated with non-fans. All the early ballads absolutely blend together and would understandably be forgettable to the general public; similar to We Belong Together, Don't Forget About Us and I Stay in Love all bleed into each other. Of all Mariah's #1, you listed the most memorable and general public favourites.
(Sunday 23 June 2024; 20:59)
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#1 Relevance, new album (106,792)
by Randy from USA
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Let me hop on in here. I have read in a magazine that only a true fan would know the difference between Fantasy, Honey and Heartbreaker. Also, when I used to argue with Whitney Houston stans in the late 90s/early 00s that yes Whitney is consistent on stage but MC has more number 1s, their argument would be most of MCs are forgotten. If you can find a non-fan that knows all of the words to I Don't Wanna Cry or TGIFY I'd be shocked. I'm from the last generation and I'm also a chart nerd. We pushed a lot of number ones by buying physical singles to albums we already had. The airplay was minimal on her song before the single was released. Hell, we do it now. How many times have I come on here to see people begging us to stay up all night streaming something. Now here's where I completely contradict what I just said. I have had a horrible school year and am leaving my present school. So I've been playing death songs on my smart board. You know, One Sweet Day, Crossroads by Bone Thugs. Well, Bye Bye was playing and the office clerk who is half my age ran into my room and started singing it. I was floored. I said what do you know about this song. She said it's among her favorites. Mine too even [though] this board constantly decimates it because it didn't go to number one. That's an argument for another day. I guess my point is there is truth to both sides of the argument. Songs are over pushed by fans (come on you all Loverboy made it to #2) but then there are factors that make a song more relevant than a chart position shows (come on you all Cyndi Lauper's Girls Just Wanna Have Fun stalled at #2). New album. It's so funny because I feel like everyone wants MC to create SZA, HER and Muni Long vibes. I am thinking [Barbra] Streisand, Liza Minelli, Diana Ross. I don't wanna be ageist but Mariah is 55 years old and you all want her on trends with the hottest producers? I do think MC needs to release an album because her fan base grew up on albums. Cardi B can release singles for years continuously promising she's working on an album. Mariah can't do that, hopping on remixes late is kinda silly. But whatever. Carey-on.
(Sunday 23 June 2024; 13:11)
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Album coming soon? (106,765)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Ya, that photo was used in ads last year. It's a gorgeous photo, but sadly not new
(Saturday 22 June 2024; 00:00)
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Album coming soon? (106,758)
by Shezz from Pk
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That picture looks like her Victoria Secret shoot from last Christmas. They’re just saying what Mariah said herself. Album coming soon.
(Thursday 20 June 2024; 20:10)
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How Much - what happened? (106,720)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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The So So Def version of How Much featuring Usher is so much better then the album version. What happened there? I know she mentioned in the Vogue interview the label didn't get it, but I get it way more than the original version. What the heck?
(Sunday 16 June 2024; 07:01)
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My top 10 remixes (106,627)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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1. Dreamlover (Club remix) 1. Say Something (So So Def feat. Snoop Dogg) 2. Shake It Off (Remix feat. Jay-Z & Young Jeezy) 3. Say Something (So So Def remix with Dem Franichize Boys) 4. Touch My Body (ft. Rick Ross & The -Dream) 5. My All (Classic Club Radio Mix) 6. Emotions (Club Mix) 7. Fantasy (Def Club Mix) 8. You're Mine Eternal (Fedde La Grand) 9. Why You Mad (infinity) (ft. Justin Bieber) 10. It's Like That (ft. Fat Joe)
(Monday 10 June 2024; 19:45)
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My top 10 remixes (106,625)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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1. Say Something (So So Def) feat. Snoop Dogg) 2. Shake It Off (Remix feat. JAY-Z & Young Jeezy) 3. Boy (I Need You) (Panjabi Hit Squad Mix) 4. We Belong Together (Peter Rauhofer Radio Mix) 5. My All (Classic Club Radio Mix) 6. Loverboy (MJ Cole Main Radio Remix Edit) 7. Honey (Def Club Mix) 8. It's Like That (BenG Club Remix) 9. Say Somethin' (David Morales Radio Edit) 10. Through The Rain (Hex Hector & Mac Quayle Club Mix)
(Monday 10 June 2024; 12:05)
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Article: Mariah surprises with her first career hit on one chart (106,623)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Thanks for this. 2013 seems late to notice Electronic was popular and needed a chart. Some of these charts seem redundant. But I guess music on X Box is a thing? I don't know her. Club Songs is clear as a chart, but I guess this Club/Electronic is more all encompassing than just literal Club DJ play in da club. If they introduced this chart in 2012, maybe Triumphant would have charted.
(Monday 10 June 2024; 00:25)
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Article: Mariah surprises with her first career hit on one chart (106,618)
by lighty from China
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According to Wikipedia: As a result of the increase in the popularity of dance and electronic music, Billboard introduced the Dance/Electronic Songs chart in January 2013 to rank the most popular dance and electronic songs according to airplay audience impressions, digital downloads, streaming and club play and publishes it on a weekly basis. They are tracked by Nielsen SoundScan, Nielsen BDS, BDS from streaming services including Spotify and Xbox Music, and from a United States-wide select panel of 140 DJs; it uses the same methodology as is used for the all-genre Billboard Hot 100. It is separate to the Dance Club Songs and Dance/Electronic Digital Songs charts, the former of which is ranked by most popular club play and the latter by the most sales. Songs will be eligible to chart on the Dance/Electronic Songs chart based on their "core sound and tempo", however dance remixes of songs which were originally pop, R&B, rap or a different genre are not eligible for inclusion, regardless of whether it appears on either the Dance Club Songs or Dance/Mix Show Airplay charts.
(Sunday 9 June 2024; 10:06)
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Article: Mariah surprises with her first career hit on one chart (106,613)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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What's the difference between the charts "Hot Dance/Electronic song" (Portrait Hopeful Child, as the only charter) and "Club Dance Songs" (Mariah has 17 #1, Triumphant being the most resent)? Thanks for anyone that can break it down for me.
(Saturday 8 June 2024; 17:50)
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Article: Mariah surprises with her first career hit on one chart (106,608)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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This was a nice surprise.
(Friday 7 June 2024; 11:28)
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Caution is probably better than TEOM (106,582)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I agree. Caution as a body of work is superior to TEOM. Caution is a full vibe the way Butterfly is a full vibe. TEOM is iconic; but Mariah really didn't go anywhere between 1999 (Rainbow), to Glitter (2001) to Charmbraclet (2002) to TEOM (2005). It's a myth that she disappeared, like Cher did before Believe came out. TEOM was great because she was all over radio at the time, and even the non-lambs embraced it. But I listen to Caution far more then I do TEOM, heck I listen to E=MC2 more then TEOM.
(Sunday 2 June 2024; 16:20)
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Caution is probably better than TEOM (106,581)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Um no Sir, just no. The Emancipation Of Mimi was more than just a massive [era], that album literally saved Mariah from being a relic from the 90's, especially after the way her image, reputation and public perception had been dragged through the mud and negatively, intentionally altered by the media, since they held the narrative back then. Basically what they tried so hard to insinuate was that Mariah Carey was now a clown, not to be taken seriously at all. Smh. Until she was not, she deliberately took that narrative back and forced that respect, whether they liked it or not. She needed a monster hit not just a very good song but an undeniable classic, and that's exactly what "We Belong Together" was - a miracle and the kind of magic most artists don't achieve in their careers. This album out of all her other albums is in a lane of its own, and is also a crossing over from Icon to [legendary] status for her. "Caution" is Mariah resting pretty on her laurels safe, secure, untouchable and respected of course, with nothing more to prove. "The Emancipation of Mimi" make no mistake is the main reason for this. ![](images/icons/20.gif)
(Sunday 2 June 2024; 15:15)
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New house mix? (106,507)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I'm not gonna pay for another subscription (audible), even thought I'd love to hear the new connect. I like to read a physical book. And I like podcasts when I am driving. I'll read a book, then jump in my car and listen to a podcast, I don't want to listen to a book-on-tape (which is what it was called before it was a corporate money maker)
My questions is, when can I hear the new Portrait House remix? I expected it on iTunes today with the release of the audible stuff. Why not?
(Friday 24 May 2024; 05:06)
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Trilogy - Celine ... (106,506)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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How is Celine Dion's coverage being covered in the rest of the world? (That's an honest question as a Canadian.)
Celine has been so expressive in Canada about her condition. But this wasn't what she wanted or what she expected for her career. The vocal trinity was Mariah, Whitney and Celine. Whitney I won't speak on. Celine has been struggling for years, meanwhile Lambs are demanding something from Mariah. Who else with this vocal prowess was in general pop music other than Mariah, Whitney, Celine? Barbra wasn't "pop" and wasn't put under the same expectation to be M.W.C. Diana Ross and queen Donna Summer weren't expected to perform the way M.W.C.
Are we underplaying the pressure these three women experienced with their vocal Olympics? Some may be disappointed by Mariah's voice in 2024, however, given Whitney's ending and Celine's physical issues, Mariah is still duetting with top 10 artists.
If you have access, Canadian TV has many great documentaries about Celine's conditions and she's extremely venerable.
(Friday 24 May 2024; 05:01)
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Article: Mariah spent Mother's Day weekend in Westchester (106,437)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I can understand why they recorded the Christmas duet at the time they did. Mariah was pregnant and as a soon to be mom probably wanted to try and repair her own relationship with her mother. I’ve had friends do the exact same thing with expecting, only to have more fall outs and incidents down the road.
(Saturday 18 May 2024; 22:48)
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Article: Mariah spent Mother's Day weekend in Westchester (106,434)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I see it the same way. Why doing a duet for Christmas even on the album with her mum, if she's so bad? It makes no sense at all. Personally I wish they are fine or at least okay.
(Saturday 18 May 2024; 11:09)
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Article: Mariah spent Mother's Day weekend in Westchester (106,427)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Has no one read or hear about Mariah's relationship with her mom? There's a late '90s interview on Oprah and you visually see how uncomfortable Mariah is with her mom.
(Friday 17 May 2024; 21:42)
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Article: Mariah spent Mother's Day weekend in Westchester (106,426)
by Edward from USA
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I'm not buying any of it. You don't record a duet with someone you portray as a bad parent in an interview. When Mariah started her Christmas shows at Beacon Theater, I personally witnessed the strong relationship they had. It wasn't just for show, Tommy wasn't involved, and her mother wasn't even on stage. She was simply there to support Mariah. After the show ended, I saw them hugging and being very affectionate.
Mariah's mother was never depicted as exploiting Mariah for money, yet there's ample evidence of Mariah experiencing severe mental strain, culminating in a nervous breakdown during the "Glitter" era. According to Mariah, she just needed rest - indeed, she needed some 911 rest alright.
(Friday 17 May 2024; 18:05)
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Loot soundtrack (106,401)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I love all the love that MC is getting on the second season of Loot with Mya Rudolph. The soundtrack on Apple has Fantasy, I Onow What You Want and Emotions. I love it.
(Sunday 12 May 2024; 05:28)
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Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,389)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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This video was so interesting to watch. I remember Ashanti being very open about singing JLo's songs, but wow is that laundry list long of who's sang for her. Also, the shady comments about amazing actresses, if Mariah ever said something like that she would never come back from that, and would get the boot from Hollywood circles. I think JLo believes the world was waiting for her and Ben to get back together, and it's honestly the last relationship rekindle anyone asked for or cares about.
(Friday 10 May 2024; 19:06)
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Why everybody hates the girl we don't know (106,377)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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This is a really interesting video made by a very talented youtuber, it's over two hours long and a comprehensive dive into the downfall of Jennifer Lopez. The reason I share it is because Mariah is mentioned quite a bit, and in this JLo debacle, after her album, movie and the documentary about making of the movie have tanked worse than even Mariah's own vanity project, Glitter, Mariah is portraid as somewhat a hero. Mariah was right about JLo all along.
While Mariah managed to bounce back in 2005 with one of the biggest comebacks in music history, because Mariah actually has talent, I just can't se how JLo will come back from this, it's career ending stuff happening now. Everything has been exposed the last few weeks, that she steals other people's music, dosen't sing her own songs, everything her being from the "block" is fake, she might be the most rude and mean celebrity there is, there's just no authenticity, and everything is out there now. It's really fascinating to experience.
(Thursday 9 May 2024; 12:52)
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Influence - Dem Teens (106,362)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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Now that Dem Babies are officially Dem Teens (which blows my mind), I wonder if they'll have an influence on Mariah evolving her sound to a new youthful sound and experimental direction? Especially now that Monroe is showing an interest in [music] and hangs out with North West. Monroe, North and Blu Ivy will rule the world one day.
(Tuesday 7 May 2024; 15:34)
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Adressed to Infinity haters (106,342)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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This is specially addressed to the Infinity haters. Can you explain to me what you dislike? It went to #82 on Billboard, it was well reviewed but critics, and the orchestration what brilliant. I'm curious why people that hate it, dislike it? My only personal grip is that the orchestration is so hopeful, and the lyrics are diss.
(Friday 3 May 2024; 23:51)
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Article: Daniel Bedingfield will release lost Mariah Carey duet (106,335)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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We have to hear this. What an unexpected duet. He was all over the radio, and I can see him and Mariah's voices in this period really blending well.
(Thursday 2 May 2024; 20:19)
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A Daydream release in 2024 (106,285)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I have never understood the Swift obsession, she barley sings (it's almost all sing-talking), she's a bully, and the definition of rich kid who's parents could buy her a career, she never gets called out of her white privilege. New York Times had an article about Taylor Swift fatigue and it had this great line: "Indeed, grinding through the 31-song double album after midnight had felt like a hostage situation." I couldn't have said it better myself. Lol.
(Thursday 25 April 2024; 01:18)
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A Daydream release in 2024 (106,284)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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It has been a great discussion this week about Taylor and insight into this whole Swifty phenonenon. We can't deny Taylor is riding high off roads paved from our true trailblazer and trendsetter MC. I am really ready for Mimi to comeback one last time with her most successful album since TEOM. I know she has at least one more left in her. Where are you Mike Will Made It? Mimi needs you again.
(Thursday 25 April 2024; 00:23)
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Uhmmm Mimi's deep cuts are MIA (106,168)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I get the intention being how she got from the debut to TEOM, that makes sense. I personally would have preferred a setlist that starts with It's Like That, and then shows how TEOM influenced all her albums post TEOM. Really focusing on her recent catalog, she doesn't incorporate her new music nearly enough. This would be my dream set list for this residency: ILT SIO Say Somethin' Mine again One and Only/So Lonely I Wish you Knew Get Your Number DFAU I'm That Chick Touch my Body Stay in Love Dance Remix Side Effects Love U long time Obsessed Candy Bling H.A.T.E.U #Beautiful Dedicated You're Mine (Eternal) You Don't Know what to Do Caution GTFO (edited version) The Distance A No No WBT FLAB as the closer
(Sunday 14 April 2024; 22:11)
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Uhmmm Mimi's deep cuts are MIA (106,167)
by Will from England
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The theme of the show is how she got to TEOM, from her debut and through he career to show why TEOM was and is an important album. From what I've seen there are spoken parts that are played between songs, almost like the audio book. Speaking of the show, I've been highly impressed by the presentation of the set, and how it's all put together. Her voice is supremely better than when we all saw that clip of VOL from a while back. The discussion of what is pre-recorded or lipped is tired and old - she is singing live what she can throughout the show and it sounds great. We just have to adjust to the new singing style that she is adopting and it's working from what I can see and hear. As for deep cuts, plenty of deep cuts from what I've seen. Set list is roughly and order may not be correct: VOL Emotions Make it happen Can't let go I'll be there Dreamlover/remix Hero Without you Fantasy Butterfly Babydoll The toof My all Breakdown Close my eyes Looking in (there have been some reports of a Glitter/Charmbracelet medley but I suspect that's when she is off stage) I wish you knew It's like that Shake it off Your girl Circles Say something We belong together Fly like a bird That's quite a good set list, I can only dream she decides to take this internationally.
(Sunday 14 April 2024; 19:11)
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Article: Mariah backs LGBTQ+ book about a boy who loves Mariah (106,142)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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This [is] such an adorable story. I [love] that MC already had the book.
(Friday 12 April 2024; 21:00)
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2002-2003 what should have been Charmbracelet's singes? (106,128)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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You got Me feat. Freeway and Jay-Z - She gives the same vocal style in this song which went to #3, "I Know What You Want/Where I Belong".
I Only Wanted or Bringing on the Heartache
The One (original)
Through the Rain, show that vocal, excite people (*the finale single dhalings*), close it out with the emotional song - Portrait, Outside. etc. ![](images/icons/20.gif)
I think as a lead single "Thought the Rain" wasn't what people wanted, we were still only coming off the dance beats of Rainbow and the Glitter soundtrack. I think an upbeat/dance song from Charmbracelet would have been celebrated at the time.
What are your thoughts?
(Monday 8 April 2024; 05:01)
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The Emancipation of Mimi (106,126)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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You know what's funny? I remember the exact highway on-ramp I was taking on March Rd. headed to Downtown Ottawa when suddenly "It's Like that" came on the radio for the very first time. I was stunned there was a new MC single and almost drove off the over pass bridge. The DJ radio introduced the new song for the very first time with these exact words: "I don't know why she keeps trying, but we have to play it, so here it is." And boom clap clap clap the new legendary era began. That DJ will go one to be playing new, beloved, Mariah songs for the next 4 years (from "It's Like That" to "Obsessed"). He must have felt like a fool after the fact. It's one of those Mariah memories of hearing new music for the first time glued to my heart and brain.
(Monday 8 April 2024; 01:50)
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The Emancipation of Mimi (106,122)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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This week we will celebrate the best album rollout of MC's career 19 years ago. I have so many memories of TEOM leading up to the release day. It will always be MC's most celebrated album release that makes other album releases today seem small in comparison. How many streaming records would TEOM have broken that first week? Will MC ever release another album like TEOM again?
(Sunday 7 April 2024; 14:43)
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Messages with all capitals will be ignored. |
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Messages that are insulting (to Mariah, other artists or members of this messageboard) will
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The webmaster has the right to refuse any message he doesn't like.
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