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About JC from USA: Mariah fan since Music Box through Now.

Qatar wedding performance (103,687) by JC from USA
Most of what I've seen her mic was on but likely singing over herself. I think she sounds great. My All sounded the best it's sounded in recent years. I'm excited.

I feel the lambs have an unrealistic expectation. I noticed this during LA Pride, for example, where I (and many others) felt she sounded amazing, yet lots of hate from the lambily.
(Sunday 8 October 2023; 22:52)
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Qatar wedding performance (103,674) by JC from USA
Has anyone else been seeing Mariah's recent performances from a wedding in Qatar? I think they're from this past week. The mic is on and she sounds great and I'm loving the energy. Here's a link to one of a few clips I've seen on Tik Tok.
(Saturday 7 October 2023; 18:59)
Christmas shows (103,664) by JC from USA
When she came to Dallas last time, she was at the Toyota Music Factory I believe. These are much bigger venues ($$$) but I do think she'd have the draw at Christmas for American Airlines Center.

I'm so glad I got to see her show at the Beacon Theater when she was there. So intimate. Granted, lower production budget, but the "camp" just added to the magic of "Christmas in New York".
(Thursday 5 October 2023; 00:30)
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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,652) by JC from USA
I still giggle at her response to Shawn Mendes' post about listening to old Mariah Carey.
(Wednesday 4 October 2023; 00:00)
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MB30 (103,440) by JC from USA
Original Hero takes the cake, always. But MB30 has me feeling unfulfilled. While MB is vocally a "prime" era, she's artistically stifled and the album feels forced, likely a result of surmounting pressure resulting from Emotion's underperformance commercially (though incredible album). These new from-the-vault songs sound horrifically dated and while her vocals are amazing on My Prayer, it's a complete skip for me.

If we are going to be celebrating anniversaries of albums every dang year, I wish we'd only celebrate and spend time more with those where she is liberated as an artist.
(Monday 11 September 2023; 15:30)
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Tommy or no career at all (103,145) by JC from USA
Labels will often establish their own variation of what's working/hot. Think the big Latin wave, boy bands, pop princesses, girl groups. Divas are not excluded.

And I would agree Mariah shared more similarities with Whitney at the very start, but they quickly veered away from her richer/darker tones in her voice for more airy and bubbly.

Mariah would've had a career without Tommy, but you have to give him credit. He knew (and ran) the business for decades before her and was masterful (yet controlling) and everything was calculated and perfect up until Mariah took the reigns.
(Monday 7 August 2023; 13:31)
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Summer songs (103,077) by JC from USA
Living in Dallas, I spend my summers in the pool. Here are my favorites to play that others love. No ballads, just an uptempo Mariah medley that folks, even those who don’t stan MC, still gravitate to:

- Big energy (remix)
- Honey
- Obsessed
- Loving you long time
- Touch my body (Seamus Haji remix)
- Shake it off
- We belong together (remix)
(Wednesday 26 July 2023; 21:43)
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If you were a star would you.... (102,576) by JC from USA
This is where Taylor kind of crushes it. She uses fan accounts (ie Taylor Nation) to actually drive narratives, lay Easter eggs, etc.

I wouldn't look at basic headlines but I'd look at what my fans are posting and engage with them. I'd also have my team either run or work with fan sites/handles.

I'd also have my team use data through social monitoring tools to identify overall sentiment and trends. And also identify top level influencers that we should engage with.

...as someone that works in marketing.
(Tuesday 18 April 2023; 20:59)
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1994 video (102,500) by JC from USA
Great interview. I love how they talk about a potential classic Christmas song and then we get AIWFIY to become the staple it is. It doesn't sound like she even knew it would be from this interview, but for those that watched documentary on it, the composition was so intentional. And I love every time she mentions Miss You Most at Christmas Time, my personal favorite.
(Friday 7 April 2023; 06:26)
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Miley Cyrus - fun challenge (102,499) by JC from USA
I've been listening to the new Miley album (esp. Jaded, Violet Chemistry, and Muddy Feet). Much, much better than her last IMO. For those interested, check 1:44 on Violet Chemistry. Remind you a little bit of a specific MC track as well? It's unlikely a nod to it, but it makes me smile every time I hear it.
(Friday 7 April 2023; 06:16)
#Beautiful (102,370) by JC from USA
I hear the points but, although short, I like the track and Mariah’s verse. It was a light-hearted summer jam. Sure, not a full blown song, but still superior and integral to her catalogue than Almost Home or Art of Letting Go, both out around the same time (both are guilty pleasures).
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 06:29)
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Die For You (102,318) by JC from USA
You're right. Remixes are counted and whichever one dominates gets credited. That's why you're seeing artists today release several remixes last minute (ie Nicki Minaj, a super freaky girl) in hopes of reaching the summit.

Here's a great Reddit post I found when I quickly searched following reading your post which talks through the changes BB has made, quite comprehensively.

A lot of changes over the year. I do think Mariah would have a lot more "hits" if promo singles were counted back in the day. Then again, so would others, and labels would've restrategized rollouts to accommodate it.
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 00:04)
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The real reason for no respect (102,309) by JC from USA
Haha, cheers. Another one that goes on the board after a few splashes.

I would say, despite the deterioration of her voice, her musicality is generally intact. For example, "You and I" for Stevie or her Patti tribute, raspy AF but she still delivered a unique take while being respectful of the original performance.

I find some performances by Bey or Christina (love them both, especially the former) are overdone to be showy.

When I look at runs for example, I judge based on the following criterion: precision (hits each note), pitch, and placement (meaning, does it actually fit musically and enhance the song).

I do think she always wanted to be a singer but not a performer. Much more of a studio artist, where her creativity shines. Not just the songwriting but the overall production of the track/album.
(Wednesday 8 March 2023; 00:47)
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"It's a Wrap" on the Hot 100 (102,257) by JC from USA
And the correlation between TikTok and streams is becoming less significant. Here's a great article from Billboard.

While there were certainly some indicators in 2020 that showed promise, going viral on TikTok is not a leading indicator of commercial success.

That said, the large reach of these viral TikTok sounds will undoubtedly capture an entirely new audience for MC, which benefit her catalogue overall. With that said, I'm glad she and team understand the importance of seizing the opportunity.
(Thursday 23 February 2023; 19:30)
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Mariah's Cookies fail (102,248) by JC from USA
It's a saturated market (including warm cookies) and was likely in sufficiently funded (and certainly promoted). I don't think it was intended to be a forever thing. Some great things aren't meant to last.

I think it was a lowly-invested effort to test the market, similar to the Irish crème. If she were to do F&B/cookies, she should focus on Advent or days leading up to Christmas. Did we expect to see Mariah pushing cookies for years? Her brand/white label deals have always been short-term. Automatic Princess anyone?

What I would love to see is something with Pharrell now that he's the CD for LV. I made my friends watch Say Somethin' video to celebrate, filmed in the four story LV store in Paris. I don't think Mariah ever expected commercial success for that song, but supported the idea of Pharrell in control and used it to help him out. And now, here we are...
(Wednesday 22 February 2023; 05:04)
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Rarities (102,229) by JC from USA
I'd give "my all" for one strong song (in terms of production, arrangement, writing, and vocal progress) or even a live cover over another round of songs that didn't make an album (for whatever reason).
(Thursday 16 February 2023; 15:14)
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It's A Wrap EP (102,205) by JC from USA
While I have little hope of the song ascending to the top 10, I love the Edit Version. Much more radio friendly and, musically, love the bass at the :07 mark and scaling back the instrumental over some lyrical highlights (ex Maury Povich).

I always this song was cute and humorous. I like a light hearted Mariah (cue the chuckle at the end).
(Friday 10 February 2023; 18:56)
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Memoirs is underrated (102,136) by JC from USA
I like The Dream and loved My Love but would never recommend this album to a non-lamb. Very depressing, sans Obsessed. She was obviously in a dark place. I did love seeing her promote it on the today show upon its release, though. The whole album's tone can be set by the Betcha Gon Know intro. You see, Caution is a "mood" album. Memoirs is a "moody" album. Big diff.
(Thursday 26 January 2023; 11:13)
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Butterfly tour footage - Sydney (102,135) by JC from USA
Thank you for sharing. I love The Roof performance. I don't think I had seen this one before.
(Thursday 26 January 2023; 11:06)
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Butterfly tour footage - Sydney (102,134) by JC from USA
Ruined her instrument in 8 years? She should've never been touring. The rasp (which I like when accessed appropriately, a la If Only You Knew) always occur when fatigued.

Music Box tour was worse than some of these performances.

It's all fatigue. For example, her whistles are thin (not "airy") due to this, hence why she's likely to produce a fuller sound in the following weeks.

That's not to say he voice didn't mature during this time. Letterman Butterfly is an example of a beautiful albeit strained voice. But her voice has also matured several instances, both earlier and later in her career.

Sadly, one of the most signature parts of her voice, the head voice, seems gone. But still strong in earlier eras.
(Thursday 26 January 2023; 11:02)
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Re: I wish for Butterfly: unplugged for Butterfly 25 (101,178) (101,185) by JC from USA
The Roof is my fav Mariah song. I loved [Brandy] on the track but vocally they sound similar it's hard to even distinguish them at times. But, nonetheless, beautiful voices on a stunning track. And personally endearing to Mariah herself.
(Monday 12 September 2022; 01:12)
Mariah / Whitney singing each other's songs (100,896) by JC from USA
While visiting a fellow lamb in DC, we went back and forth on this topic. As much as I respect themselves as artists, I wish Mariah and Whitney covered each other in their primes. There is no way they were not singing each other's songs when they came on the radio.

What do you wish you could hear Mariah sing of Whitney's and vice versa? I'd love to hear Mariah's rendition of Just the Lonely Talking Again. I'd also love to hear Whitney crush I Don't Wanna Cry. Who cares about Jeter? They probably hung out five times, max.
(Thursday 4 August 2022; 11:22)
Re:#Butterfly25 (100,870) (100,872) by JC from USA
No offense but you are not speaking on behalf of us. The Roof with Brandy was cute (though they sounded too similar, little contrast) and I honestly don't think Mariah is simply going to press play on the existing instrumental and hum. I'm here for anything she's willing to deliver and a refinement of pre-existing work is totally aligned with the 90s dubbing. I just hope for at least 2 new tracks or remixes with less derivative vocals.

Chill, child. We all love MC, and if she wants to re-do some tracks off her best album, it is her right. And it should be [Butterfly]. Daydream is out of the question.

Side note. Decided today to go for Halloween as a monarC butterfly (black leotard, big wings) in honor of the anniversary.
(Monday 1 August 2022; 07:53)
Re: MC hurry up (100,847) (100,850) by JC from USA
I love the album, especially THIQUE and Church Girl. I know Mariah's probably been listening to it. I think Bey may have an album of the year. Universal acclaim.

But yes, I need MC16 too. Even just one good "It's like that" moment.
(Saturday 30 July 2022; 04:37)
Re: What sank Charmbracelet? (100,837) (100,838) by JC from USA
Critics panned it because her voice sounded weak and there are simply no great songs. Lyrically or musically. Everything about the album was off - too conservative without any risk, no hooks, no theme, and a frail voice hidden behind a whisper. It is my least favorite of any Mariah album. Nothing about it makes sense.

Extra point to the person the blamed its demise on the cover art. Yes, it must be it. Pulled from Wiki, which I totally agree with:

Rating Charmbracelet two out of five stars, Barry Walters from Rolling Stone wrote that none of the songs were bold, that the lack of hooks made the album weak, and said, "Carey needs bold songs that help her use the power and range for which she is famous. Charmbracelet is like a stream of watercolors that bleed into a puddle of brown."
(Wednesday 27 July 2022; 09:32)

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