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I miss albums (102,473)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 5 April 2023; 18:05) | | |
| I wish MC would jump on the EP trend that is happening right now. Newer artists like Coco Jones, Summer Walker, and Eric Bellinger are doing it and having great success. It would be perfect for MC to release a 7-track EP and have enormous success with it. Take for example, Coco Jones who has never released a "full album" in her career. Last year, she released her first major label EP on Def Jam Records. She is having enormous success with the deluxe edition of her EP with an additional 3 extra tracks. Her single, ICU is gaining radio airplay because of her performances on TV. She even made it onto a track on Babyface's Girls Night Out album. I wish MC would release an EP and just promote the heck out it on TV and see what happens. |
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This is a reply to message 102,472 by
Randy from USA
(Wednesday 5 April 2023; 16:24) | | |
| Edward, I get your single idea but it breaks my heart. I feel like an album wouldn't benefit her in this current music industry. But how I miss the anticipation. I miss it being a project. Having a theme. I know it's for the nostalgia but remember waiting outside of Sam Goody or Tower Records? Remember struggling to get that plastic tape off the top of the CD? We don't get liner notes and pictures anymore. It's just sad. Imagine if movies weren't a thing and you just got a scene at a time. Imagine if a baseball game was one inning and everyone went home. I feel like an album is like a novel. A page is special but you need the entire story. |
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Vanishing live in Sydney (Butterfly Tour) (102,461)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 4 April 2023; 01:43) | | |
| Wow. This concert should have been released as a live album. Who knows maybe it will one day. I bet Sony Legacy Recordings has tons of recordings that they are just waiting to release with or without MC's permission. |
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This is a reply to message 102,460 by
Stacey from USA
(Tuesday 4 April 2023; 01:06) | | |
Now this is what we should be talking about. Not whether someone wished MC a happy anniversary or not. Wow. Amazing vocals.  |
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Observation (102,451)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 3 April 2023; 10:53) | | |
| Steve, try again. I am more than just a follower. I am Mimi's #1 Lamb since I heard VOF on the radio in 1990. Young Lambs like you came along after 2002. I am critical of MC on here, but it is out of concern for MC and how her career has been on a downward spiral since 2013. 1990 Lambs want her to reset and give us what we all know she's capable of doing. |
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This is a reply to message 102,447 by
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(Monday 3 April 2023; 03:32) | | |
| Oh please, you're just a follower. |
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Observation (102,441)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 2 April 2023; 10:27) | | |
| Randy, that is great video compliation of MC's excuses. Watching it made realize that MC clearly has an identity self-image issue that has affected her ability to stop worrying about what people think about her. I can relate to this because I am extra sensitive about how people perceive me. Rosie assured her each time, but she still couldn't accept her sincere praises of her performances. Looking In, I Am Free, Close My Eyes, Outside, Fly Like A Bird, Camouflage, and Potrait all tell the story of MC's identity self-image issue. Losing her voice has only made it worse for MC. |
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This is a reply to message 102,434 by
Randy from USA
(Sunday 2 April 2023; 01:02) | | |
| As tired as you are of us picking Mariah apart, we are tired of being told that we are not fans and we are evil people. Nobody's mad because MC doesn't have the same voice as 1990. Hell, she didn't even have the same voice in 1998. The real issue is the deception and the excuses. How did she go from saying publicly, :I would never lip sync" in the 90s to lip syncing most of her climaxes in 99 and beyond? And then not telling us what happened? I didn't want to do this on this board but a few years ago, I put together all of MCs excuses. In her own words. I don't ever argue without receipts. Oh and I still love MC. You can view the video here. |
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Observation (102,430)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 1 April 2023; 17:56) | | |
| I think that we are all frustrated that MC16 has not been released and she seems to have lost her beautiful gift. Listening to the introduction of Fantasy kind of brought tears to my eyes knowing that MC can't sing acapella anymore. |
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This is a reply to message 102,428 by
MC85 from Canada
(Saturday 1 April 2023; 07:09) | | |
I agree with you Lady B. This is partly why I rarely post and haven't been visiting the board as much these days. Life has been especially hard lately for so many people, including me, and the world often seems like it's on the brink. Mariah and her music have always been and always will be a beacon of light in my life and I've been needing that more than ever lately.
I consider myself extremely lucky and am beyond grateful that Mariah continues to provide me with utter joy, the sense of peace, and the much needed reminder that I'm not truly alone thanks to her music. I just don't see the point in picking someone apart, criticizing them and constantly expressing disappointment towards them when they have given me so much life. That's just me though. I dunno |
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For The Record (102,429)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 1 April 2023; 12:50) | | |
| It's the same for 4Real 4Real for me sung in my Mariah voice. By the way, didn't MC say in interviews that she and BMC recorded a total of 4 songs during their Capri sessions? |
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This is a reply to message 102,426 by
Brad from USA
(Thursday 30 March 2023; 21:51) | | |
| Whenever I hear this phrase used around me, "For the record", I always sing it back to the person and add "you oughta know". This is such a personal point of reference for me. No one understands what I am doing when I do that, but at this point in life I feel I have earned the right to do that. Needless to say, I have always loved this song. |
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Album delay (102,425)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 30 March 2023; 19:21) | | |
| We will know at the Lovers and Friends and L.A. Pride Fest performances if we are going to get a new album this year. If she sings Fantasy/Big Energy Remix and ABMB and no new songs, then we are not getting a new album this year. MC must be heartbroken about the deterioration of her voice. |
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This is a reply to message 102,423 by
T from USA
(Thursday 30 March 2023; 13:54) | | |
| Does anyone else get the feeling that all these projects in the works that never see the light of day is really because she's stalling? I wonder if her voice is too far gone? Back in the 90's Mariah could bang out an album every year. Or could it be that she is scared of the commercial performance which is freezing her from putting anything out? She's been talking about the same three projects now for three years since 2020, and it's obvious nothing is coming this year. So that means it will be four years since we first heard about SUD or TBL. And next year will be six years since her last studio album. I personally don't mind if Caution is her last album, as it is that good, knowing full well that her next real studio album will probably be her last. |
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For The Record (102,420)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 29 March 2023; 18:27) | | |
| I had forgotten how good this song was to the ear. It doesn't sound like a BMC production. |
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Mariah vs MC (102,401)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 March 2023; 01:35) | | |
| Like I said before this year, we will know for sure if Mariah will come back with the voice or MC will carry on with her vocal struggles and failed lip syncing. A soft retirement is imminent within 2-3 years though. |
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This is a reply to message 102,400 by
Bill from the UK
(Sunday 26 March 2023; 13:33) | | |
| Whatever happened to her voice in 1997 happened. With the loss of the ability to sing her songs well and fluidly like she did in prior years, the focus had to shift. So, musically the songs became less demanding vocally, the "I'm a songwriter first" narrative was cranked up to the max, and she became more concerned with her look than her voice. She should have said at the time what had happened to her voice and adapted her back catalogue and future songs accordingly. Instead she chose to prolong the facade with studio trickery, dubbing and lip syncing and now it's all gone too far. Those who know, know. Mariah Carey 1990-1996. 1997 onwards, someone else. |
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Lovers and Friends concert (102,397)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 25 March 2023; 12:55) | | |
| This event is going to determine very quickly what we can expect from MC this summer and fall. Will the performance show that her voice has improved? On the other hand, MC has to be getting ready to unleash multiple releases on her website in the fall. She is going to have a lot of competition this fall from Usher, Janet Jackson, Tori Kelly, and Brandy. |
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GTFO remixes (102,394)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 22:57) | | |
| The official Sony Music, Epic and Legacy imprints are on the CD. It even has the 30-year custom Mariah Carey imprint. The CD was delivered to me in a plastic promo sleeve with a insert picture of one of the video scenes captured. Lettering on the side is in Spanish manufactured in Brasil. Let me do some research on the web. Maybe I have been bamboozled on Ebay. |
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This is a reply to message 102,393 by
Edward from USA
(Friday 24 March 2023; 21:20) | | |
| Did you mean an unofficial? |
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GTFO remixes (102,390)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 24 March 2023; 17:02) | | |
| I got my hands on an official GTFO remix CD with 4 remixes. My favorite is Cavalier's Get To Steppin Anthem. Anyone else? |
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#Beautiful (102,375)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 15:22) | | |
| #Beautiful does not have that signature Mariah melody that we have been used to. It is the first time that she recorded a song that was already half-written with the chords and lyrics from two other songwriters - Miguel and Happy Perez. The remix showcases signature Mariah melody more. |
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This is a reply to message 102,372 by
Edward from USA
(Wednesday 22 March 2023; 14:53) | | |
| I love me some #Beautiful, don't get me wrong. I played that song like there was no tomorrow, but there was always the feeling that something was missing. Many speculated back then it was just a shortened version for the radio. One must admit though that it was her last time she was close to having a hit. |
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RCA UK (102,367)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 21 March 2023; 21:27) | | |
| Remember in the Fall of 2021 we were all surprised that Fall In Love At Christmas was released on RCA Inspiration and not Epic. Well, I found out today that MC is signed to RCA UK. I guess that RCA UK was all Sony Entertainment could offer MC since she had not submitted a follow up to Caution in a timely manner. Check it out by doing a Google search - Mariah Carey signs with RCA Records. |
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One more reality show (102,363)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 20 March 2023; 18:12) | | |
| MC really hurt her chances of signing a new deal with Epic when in 2021 she was making her interview rounds criticizing the AR department and Jay Z for the instant grats promotion. For me, Melissa seemed liked a hands off manager and not really focusing on MC as the artist. And MC has lost the one thing that garnered her attention and money - her voice. |
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This is a reply to message 102,360 by
Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
(Monday 20 March 2023; 12:02) | | |
| Ya I am not even sure who's her current manager and if she even is on a label. She was no longer on the Epic roster last I checked and she also left RocNation with her previous manager but not sure if they're still together. It's unfortunate that such a huge star like Mariah hasn't had a good solid stable team for a while. Her only constant has been her glam team. |
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One more reality show (102,359)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 20 March 2023; 03:23) | | |
| I wonder why MC mentions these projects and they never see the light of day. 90's MC would never keep the Lambs hanging on this long for a new album. Something has to be going on behind the scenes on the business side of her career. Record label issues? Management issues? |
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This is a reply to message 102,358 by
Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
(Sunday 19 March 2023; 22:55) | | |
| That was what the previously promised "Butterfly Lounge" sessions were supposed to be about. Her in the studio, reimagining her songs and collaborating with different artists. She spoke so much about it and then just like so many other projects it was dropped. |
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One more reality show (102,355)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 17 March 2023; 12:03) | | |
| I thought today about one more reality show similar to the E! Network Uncut special that aired during the TEOM promotion period. It could be a real and authentic 5 episode series that focuses on MC's recording process with various producers, collaborators, and her reconnection with L.A. Reid in preparation for a new album release. |
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Lambs request (102,352)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 16 March 2023; 10:51) | | |
| I am getting very impatient. Lol. I just read today that Usher's new album will be on his own label with L.A. Reid. Maybe MC's new album will be on their new label. By the way, Usher's new single GLU drops this Friday. |
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This is a reply to message 102,347 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 13 March 2023; 21:30) | | |
| As thirsty as we all are for her music, I'm loving the anticipation. I would actually prefer "The Rarities 2" first. |
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Bye Bye video (102,349)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 14 March 2023; 19:59) | | |
Who's who the video towards the end is below.
3:51 Nana - Alfred Roy's mother
4:02 Patricia and her mother
4:04 Alfred Roy
4:07 Ol' Dirty Bastard
4:09 David Cole
4:13 Luciano Pavarotti
4:14 Luther Vandross |
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This is a reply to message 102,348 by
RL from USA
(Tuesday 14 March 2023; 17:18) | | |
| Does anyone know who each person in the pictures are towards the end of the Bye Bye video? There are a couple of pics of people I don't recognize. Just curious. |
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Lambs request (102,346)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 13 March 2023; 17:50) | | |
| I am just wondering what is this album MC talked about last year that Lambs have been asking her to release. Could it be a jazz or gospel album? Maybe a dance album? Billboard just announced that Warner Bros is launching a dance label. This is a genre that MC has had a successful track record for 30 years. It would probably sell better than a jazz or gospel. |
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Remixes (102,345)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 13 March 2023; 14:23) | | |
| Wow. How did this remix slip by me? It's on YouTube posted by several subscribers. |
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This is a reply to message 102,344 by
Nicole from US
(Monday 13 March 2023; 07:45) | | |
| Speaking of remixes, does anyone have a clear copy of Honey Summer Mix 2008? Pretty please. |
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I Still Believe (102,339)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 11 March 2023; 14:23) | | |
There is something special about MC's cover of I Still Believe. Listening to my ISB 12 inch brought me to post today.
1. It has to be MC's most real, carefree, and casual vocal ever. She sings with such ease without over using her higher register.
2. It was the combination of R&B and Pop that was highlight of MC's delivery.
3. If you have the CD maxi single or 12 inch versions, then you have something rare in your hands. In fact, there were five completely distinct versions released. The ISB remixes are by far one of MC's best remixes.
4. MC's cover of ISB was her way of paying tribute to her mentor and former boss, Brenda K. Starr.
5. Lastly, MC's use of the Pure Imagination interpolation was a brilliant and genius choice for the remix melody. |
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Remixes (102,334)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 11 March 2023; 03:40) | | |
| Stacey, your post got me thinking again. Why didn't MC release more remix albums during her height of her career? They would have done extremely well. We have only gotten one official remix album - The Remixes. |
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This is a reply to message 102,331 by
Stacey from USA
(Saturday 11 March 2023; 00:33) | | |
| Welcome to the club, Randy and Eddie. I replace album versions for remixes all the time. I love some remixes better than the album version. The Morales remix of Honey took out my speakers too. I found a fan made radio edit that if it weren't a digital copy, it would have worn out long ago, lol. I remember when my sister got me a CD-5 for ABMB. It was like discovering a whole new world of music I honestly had no idea existed. Talk about receiving the ultimate Christmas present. That was it. We can say what we want about the current state of Mariah's career in 2023. But there is no denying her talent is unmatched by anyone on Earth. Add in her remixes, her career is unmatched by anyone in the freaking universe. Excuse me while I go and blast Honey Morales Remix and ruin a few more speakers. |
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Yours (102,324)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 22:21) | | |
| Great post. Maybe this could be a new TikTok video for wedding rehearsals that could garner support for Jive/RCA to allow MC and IDJ to release the remix/duet this summer. |
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This is a reply to message 102,323 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 18:22) | | |
| This song is still so good. I love that it's so dreamy. It's unique and pure Mariah. Justin and his management were so stupid that they didn't want to release the remix with Mariah. That was a missed opportunity. |
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Remixes (102,321)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 12:14) | | |
| I just found today my Fye Mix and Burn copy of #Beautiful remix with A$AP Rocky and Miguel. I like that remix better than the Jessy remix. One thing that we can say about MC and her remixes is that she started the multiple remix genre featuring other artists and rappers on a different version of a song. DFAU is another one that fits into that genre. MC doesn't get enough credit for starting certain aspects of remixes and vocal stacking. |
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This is a reply to message 102,320 by
Edward from USA
(Thursday 9 March 2023; 04:24) | | |
| BB still counts remixes, but if they are structurally different from the original song then they're considered as two different songs. If Jennifer's I'm Real (Murder Remix) and Mariah's Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix) were released today, they wouldn't be considered as remixes for BB purposes, so their airplay, streams and sales wouldn't be combined with the airplay, streams and sales of the original songs. In other words, if you can't recognize the original song in the remix, then they two different songs. #Beautiful and #Beautiful (Jeezy Remix) had combined airplay, streams and sales. While Jesse's rap was added, the lyrics and music didn't go far from the original. Same with Big Energy, but since the original was more popular, Mariah wasn't credited. |
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