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Name: Andrew
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Mariah, please be ready (104,008) by Andrew from the UK
(Friday 10 November 2023; 09:15)
I don't know how much money Mariah makes from royalties each year but it's surely got to be around the US$50m mark? I can appreciate the "rug pulled from under you" theory - but it's so unlikely as to be an impossibility.

I cannot now see, at this age, and with the experience she has, why Mariah cannot lower the keys of the songs, sing them, and move around the stage once more. Madonna is ten years older than Mariah, recently got out of hospital, clearly still has an injury to her leg, and still is still delivering a reasonable energised and effective show (although there's a lot of criticism of a different nature that can be levelled at that artist).

I have always said that I think Mariah's weight, and ever expanding breasts, have negatively impacted her movement and her singing - if she cared about her fans she would do something about it. She would lower the keys of her songs, put on a pair of pants, move about the stage again and have actual fun rather than looking like a (rein)deer in headlights. And we would have a lot more fun with it.

For the love of all that is holy, Mariah: go back to the way you were.
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This is a reply to message 104,004 by Will from England
(Thursday 9 November 2023; 23:46)
Mariah, please be ready (104,000) by Andrew from the UK
(Thursday 9 November 2023; 14:28)
I could not disagree more. If Mariah starts talking about her inability to sing - it is all anyone will talk about when referencing her, it will added on to every story written about her where is has no revelance and it will be the overriding, overarching narrative to her life. Mariah does not need to talk about the voice.

What Mariah does need to do is stop being - let's see if this gets through - fat lazy lipsync artist. It's boring. There is nothing stopping Mariah being fit, healthy, engaging, and singing more of her catalogue live than she does. She just doesn't want to. What she wants is for the sheep to blindly keep handing over money for crap she lazily puts out.

Mariah does not lack confidence in herself. Mariah just doesn't give a smurf about your confidence in her. She doesn't care about her fans, despite the lip-service she pays us. She cares about money coming in and people around her telling her she's amazing. And not fat. And not lazy. And not ripping people off.

MC30's are great. MC54 is blah.
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This is a reply to message 103,999 by ADAM from USA
(Thursday 9 November 2023; 13:59)
Mariah, please be ready (103,995) by Andrew from the UK
(Thursday 9 November 2023; 00:36)
It's hard to find a comparator for a singer but when a tennis player has an injury they do not sign up for a circuit of Grand Slams and tournaments. When a rugby player has a pulled hamstring, they are taken out of the season. If you can't sing, don't get on stage - and charge money for it?

This sounds mean, maybe it is. And I think if people know what's going to happen and they buy tickets to it, then I'm all for that. But very majorly supportive of people like Adam who chooses not to buy high-price tickets to something very average. The Caution tour was Mariah's first tour in the UK I didn't attend since the Rainbow tour. Because I, likewise, didn't see the point. I'd rather spend the money on a vacation - which is what it costs now.

However, I think you're missing the crux. It isn't that Mariah isn't signing so much, it's that she doesn't move, she doesn't banter much, she doesn't do much of anything. I remember attending the Christmas show at the O2 not far from me: I could see she was reading an autocue of what to say. "I have my own reindeeeeer." That isn't just a loss of confidence, that's a loss of dignity, wouldn't you say?

When someone is asking Mariah to be prepared, it's a grave, grave state of affairs that this needs to be requested. But, I do hope she puts on a good show and doesn't fill YouTube with yet more toss.
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This is a reply to message 103,994 by Will from England
(Wednesday 8 November 2023; 22:29)
Mariah, please be ready (103,993) by Andrew from the UK
(Wednesday 8 November 2023; 18:23)
I don't understand from where this idea of Mariah being an "unconfident" performer still permeates? She was unrefined during the debut performances into Emotions perhaps, but 1993 - 2008 oozed confidence - granted: sometimes ebbing, sometimes flowing, but confident she was. It is only since Memoirs did Mariah have a personality transplant. I'm swaying to the idea that she was beamed up to the mothership and replaced with a somewhat imperfect and faulty replica.
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This is a reply to message 103,992 by Brandon from USA
(Wednesday 8 November 2023; 17:42)
Jimmy Kimmel (103,989) by Andrew from the UK
(Wednesday 8 November 2023; 12:02)
Yes, your sentiment is accurate: 1994 Mariah Carey has done extremely well with her Christmas Album and its lead track. This incarnation of Mariah Carey... not so much.
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This is a reply to message 103,988 by Nikki from usa
(Wednesday 8 November 2023; 06:55)
Usher and Superbowl performance (103,982) by Andrew from the UK
(Tuesday 7 November 2023; 20:09)
Another prediction based upon desire and not much else. Sweet sweet fantasy.
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This is a reply to message 103,981 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 7 November 2023; 13:47)
Mariah, please be ready (103,978) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 6 November 2023; 23:57)
Surely you must know that Mariah will - almost undoubtedly - stand motionless front-centre stage for the entirety of the show and lipsync 95% of it? I'm not berating her for it (or, perhaps, I am?) but just stating it as it is.

This goes to most recent posts, including the Kimmel so-called "interview", performances and promos.

Would that I completely understood modern days audiences I would be wildly rich, but suffice is to say that music and musicianship wildly diverged from what it was in the nineties and noughties - in that *authenticity* became key. People nowadays connect with singers and musicians who appear down-to-Earth and (dare I say it) "real". Does Taylor Swift sell tickets and albums by the bucketload because she's a great singer or songwriter? I'd venture that's a part of it. But another part of it is her relatability. People connect with her. I feel like I connect with her. I feel that were I to bump into her in a pub in London we would have a pint together.

I see Mariah on Jimmy Kimmel and I hang my head in pity at what she has allowed herself to become. It is an obnoxious characature of what a "big star" is. It screams delusion. It screams obliviousness. It screams desperation.

Mariah will stand still on that bloody Christmas stage in the belief that it is *more* important to look good than to sound good or to move about the stage or to entertain. That's all the matters to her now. Looking good. And, well, does she? *Does* she? I thought she looked bloody awful - literally like someone threw a jacket over her before she walked onto the set in an attempt to save her dignity.

And if there's an argument to disprove this any of this, or any reasonably pitch to advance an opposing argument, I'd love to hear it. I'm all ears.
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This is a reply to message 103,977 by Brandon from USA
(Monday 6 November 2023; 20:22)
What if Glitter was released on Columbia Records (103,974) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 6 November 2023; 12:01)
Ah, so Glitter is this hour's topic?
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This is a reply to message 103,970 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 6 November 2023; 00:26)
Jimmy Kimmel (103,973) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 6 November 2023; 12:00)
Brandon, how could you not like that interview? Don't you find Mariah talking about lighting interesting? Not even about being late? Not "doing" time? Her "bad" side?

Don't you like Mariah looking like she fell asleep in a giant make-up bag? You don't like her being dressed like someone threw a jacket over a hooker to preserve some dignity?

Somebody ought to do a montage of just how many times Mariah has said or done all of this shite in interviews to maybe impress upon her that it's maybe something to do with her own behaviour that she can't sell records or tickets the the general public anymore.
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This is a reply to message 103,954 by Brandon from USA
(Friday 3 November 2023; 15:50)
First Cheech, then Chong, now the Chin (103,972) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 6 November 2023; 11:52)
"Can you sing?" All the money in my pocket against all the money in your pocket says I can sing All I Want For Christmas Is You better now than Mariah Carey can.
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This is a reply to message 103,965 by JR from United States
(Sunday 5 November 2023; 17:55)
First Cheech, then Chong, now the Chin (103,961) by Andrew from the UK
(Saturday 4 November 2023; 13:21)
An expressed thought about *nearly but not* doing something about expressed thoughts. What goes unexpressed?
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This is a reply to message 103,958 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 4 November 2023; 02:19)
First Cheech, then Chong, now the Chin (103,947) by Andrew from the UK
(Friday 3 November 2023; 01:02)
I put it to you:

Fact Parte the First:

Mariah has spent years silently, without ceremony, repositioning her head on her neck almost every time a camera is aimed in her direction. We know her head is not aligned correctly with the centre of the Earth because the other people in the photo, the buildings in the photo and Mariah's own body upon which the head sits in the photo, are all pointed in the same direction - that is to say, to the centre of the Earth. We know that Mariah does this because she has - or had - a much larger, fattier face than previously known, and. in doing said little-teapot-short-and-stout act, she is stretching the skin to reduce the fat effect. For Heaven forfend Mariah not look perfect all the live long day.

Fact Parte the Second:

Mariah's face has become noticeably thinner with less weight around the jawline and neck this year - at a much more appareent accelerated rate than her body (which is still rather curvy).

Fact Parte the Third:

Mariah does a little hand wave with the bridge of her hand pressed against her chin. Those of us who have a grip on reality will have seen over the years tha Mariah does not start new body movements unless they are covering something up she does not want people to see.

Please the court, I wish to read the charges:

Mariah Carey has had more cosmetic surgery - Mariah Carey has had a chin lift.

What say you?
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7 songs one billion streams (103,919) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 30 October 2023; 09:26)
I often wondered why she seemed to completely pay Daydream dust once the touring was over. I arrived to the conclusion that Butterfly was actually borne out of the ashes of the Never-Were-Grammy's for Daydream.

That is to say: I believe the conversation, or the statement she gave Tommy and Columbia Records was something along the lines of the following:

"I made the perfect pop/R&B crossover album, with Daydream, I practically ruled Billboard for a year with it, got three No.1 singles out of it, put Old Dirty Bastard at No.1 on a pop record, revolutionized the Middle8 rapper segment - and what did the industry do to me?

It put me on a television camera for three hours whilst they kept giving me the middle finger and I had to sit there and take it. Well I'm done with them. I'm not doing another Daydream: I'm doing something completely new."

And in that the concept of Butterfly was born and Daydream was buried for a decade or so.
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This is a reply to message 103,902 by Edward from USA
(Saturday 28 October 2023; 19:22)
7 songs one billion streams (103,901) by Andrew from the UK
(Saturday 28 October 2023; 07:21)
I am genuinely shocked Fantasy never gets the audience it deserves. Everyone loves it. I think it may have something to do with Mariah literally ignoring it for 20 years.
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This is a reply to message 103,898 by jaker20 from US
(Friday 27 October 2023; 21:07)
Merry Christmas to you too (103,894) by Andrew from the UK
(Friday 27 October 2023; 15:55)
I would think a 3rd release is better timed for MCH30 next year. Hopefully a release won't be called "Merry Christmas One And All". I think Merry Christmas III is a solid title. Merry Christmas III or Merry Christmas II You II.
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This is a reply to message 103,892 by Edward from USA
(Friday 27 October 2023; 15:01)
Merry Christmas to you too (103,891) by Andrew from the UK
(Friday 27 October 2023; 01:20)
Well, Merry Christmas was released October 29 and Merry Christmas II You was released November 2. So Merry Christmas III must be out next week?
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This is a reply to message 103,875 by Edward from USA
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 21:58)
On the subjects of tours (103,870) by Andrew from the UK
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 16:27)
As wrong or weird in almost everything you've ever said, as you are - you are correct in one thing: if Sam Smith were not obese and unattractive I may just appreciate a performance he puts on. But he is obese and unattractive and puts on vulgar performances viewed by minors and I don't like it.

In fact, many people don't like it. If he puts himself out there doing it - people are going to voice opinions on it. Being so-called "queer" does not make absolve you of responsibility over your actions.

So your ad hominem attacks won't work with me. What does work is exercise, so hop to it, now, sweetheart: you're not in the Fitness Protection Programme. Keep running from the Carbs.
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This is a reply to message 103,867 by Libra Lamb from USA
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 15:07)
On the subjects of tours (103,869) by Andrew from the UK
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 16:25)
"Like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how ignorant it may be."

But that's *not* what you said: you told Edward that his opinion on something being "crap" was not valid, you called him "ignorant" for it and told him to "mind his own business" - that is to say: to *not* voice his opinion on it.

So, your position is that he is entitled to an opinion but if it conflicts with your own, he should not voice it. And if someone does voice an opinion which you not like, you are free to hurl insults. But not the other way around.
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This is a reply to message 103,866 by Libra Lamb from USA
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 15:01)
On the subjects of tours (103,864) by Andrew from the UK
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 11:29)
Sam Smith has embarrassed himself with ridiculous and disgusting stage performances. I don't know anyone who wants to see an obese, sweaty, unattractive man on stage acting like it's daring - and not vulgar - to behave the way he does. It was daring 30 years ago, today it's just pathetic. Madonna take note.

The two of them trying to reclaim the word "vulgar" amplifies the patheticness of it all. They both look desperate and somewhat oblivious - a bit like Miley "Yeah we do what we want cos we, like, do what want" Cyrus. I don't know anybody - anybody - who does not think that Sam Smith and Madonna are desperate has-beens.

Mariah is often called a has-been but the Christmas defrost keeps her quite relevant. Whilst thinking on this I realise that Mariah x Christmas is something I should fully support. Thus I call again for a third Christmas album - perhaps a Christmas duets album.

As for his "gender identity" Sam Smith is free to declare what his pronouns are - just as Edward is free to declare that he is not going to use them when referencing him. Gender Theory like Race Theory can be used as attempts to control language, thus controlling education and the minds of the young. You are free to believe in it, just as most people, who refuse to flatly deny observable reality, will not.
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This is a reply to message 103,861 by Libra Lamb from USA
(Wednesday 25 October 2023; 03:04)
On the subjects of tours (103,857) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 23 October 2023; 21:00)
I just watched fan footage of Madonna at the Greenwich O2 with her "Celebration Tour". How obnoxious can you get? I know Madonna had made a career of carrying herself with a superior "smurf you" attitude - but that show is absolutely monolithic in its pretentiousness.

I love Ray of Light, Confessions on a Dancefloor, and many random singles from her - she can write a pop song. But she lacks any kind of class, regardless of how much of an English accent she tries to put on. I do not need to see a 60year old woman kissing someone on stage as if this makes her "daring".

Like Sam Smith, she's absolutely vulgar. At least Mariah had maintained a level of class (notwithstanding Stella-gate).
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Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour (103,856) by Andrew from the UK
(Monday 23 October 2023; 20:53)
Often imitated, never duplicated.

It was as professional as a tour from her I had seen. And it visually quite great. Plus, the variety of songs from the discography of course better because it was late in the day.

I remember Martyn asking my opinion at the time and I could only say that I didn't really care about the lipsync or the awkward transition because it was just like a big Mariah Carey nightclub. And Martyn liked it. Although he was a lad of very, er, questionable taste.

What did you like about it?
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This is a reply to message 103,855 by Brandon from USA
(Monday 23 October 2023; 18:36)
Album with the young producers (103,852) by Andrew from the UK
(Sunday 22 October 2023; 23:50)
Do you ever have an unexpressed thought?
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This is a reply to message 103,851 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 22 October 2023; 22:55)
Black & White Hero (103,850) by Andrew from the UK
(Sunday 22 October 2023; 19:49)
Just rewatched Proctor's Theatre and a bit puzzled by the inclusing of the B&W clip of Mariah on stage singing Hero in what is clearly a professionally edited scene.

Was this the original Hero video? Possibly canned by Tommy Mottola in favour of the real live-ish version? You would think surely that they would not have gone to all that trouble for a 30 second not-even-closer for the special.
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Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour (103,849) by Andrew from the UK
(Sunday 22 October 2023; 12:56)
That I literally had just posted that SSFT was the best show ever is what made me think you must be joking with your message.
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This is a reply to message 103,846 by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 21 October 2023; 22:53)
Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour (103,843) by Andrew from the UK
(Saturday 21 October 2023; 20:27)
Are you joking?
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This is a reply to message 103,831 by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 21 October 2023; 03:47)
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