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She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,678)
by Andrew from the UK
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If Mariah had "literallly" already done what I was suggesting, I wonder what definitions of "alternating" and "interspersing" you are using?
Let's not have an argument about it. I appreciate what you are saying - there was possibly more variety than in previous Christmas shows. However, I really do mean going Christmas song, non-Christmas song, Christmas song, non-Christmas song, and so on.
Moreover, I really do think she should start lowering every song substantially in key - and by several notes. Nobody is expecting to hear her get to stratospheric heights anymore and I think even the press would cut her some slack on it for she is, after all, admired. But I think everyone would appreciate a smoother slide from lipped to non-lipped.
And she might even have more fun and not look so fraught with stage-fright?
(Saturday 7 October 2023; 21:13)
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She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,676)
by Lady B from USA
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You're wrong. I was there. And here's the setlist.
(Saturday 7 October 2023; 19:36)
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She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,673)
by Andrew from the UK
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No. She "literally" did not. But we can move on.
(Saturday 7 October 2023; 11:33)
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She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,671)
by Lady B from USA
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She literally did this at MSG last year.
(Friday 6 October 2023; 05:09)
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George Michael / 3-words (103,668)
by Andrew from the UK
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Good lad. Nobody likes a spitter.
(Thursday 5 October 2023; 18:29)
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George Michael / 3-words (103,667)
by TJ from Norway
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The nearest I was George Michael was when I went to a party after his concert in Oslo, but I was "only" drinking with his band.
(Thursday 5 October 2023; 13:08)
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A record that matters (103,666)
by Andrew from the UK
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Mariah Carey has spent 90 weeks at No.1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States in the last 33 years. That's 1.75 years or 1 year 9 months. So about every 19 weeks since 1990, Mariah has been at No.1 for 1 of them. That's actually incredible.
(Thursday 5 October 2023; 10:47)
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Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,661)
by Andrew from the UK
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It is true to observe, is it not, that Brenda Lee's Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree is annually a massive song in the US? It is not so in the UK. Is it in Germany? I don't quite "get" the song. It doesn't appeal to me. It reminds me of Home Alone, is all.
(Wednesday 4 October 2023; 18:17)
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Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,657)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I bought her best of album because of "Rockin' around the Christmas tree". I love this Christmas song. Brenda Lee is a real Rock & Roll lady. Brenda, Wham and Mariah are just perfect for Christmas and always will. Good music will never be outdated, classics will be loved forever.
(Wednesday 4 October 2023; 11:54)
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She's checking her list - she's checking it twice? (103,656)
by Andrew from the UK
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Mariah ought to strongly consider shaking up her Christmas tour set-list by interspersing the Christmas songs with non-Christmas songs,
When she played "Yo New York in the house" at the London O2, 20,000 people went crazy only to fall to awkward silence when it cut short only for Mariah to joke "Nooo, that's a whole other show." Why does it have to be? You would be hard pressed to go to any pubs, restaurants, malls, etc., in December where they only played Christmas music. Too much Christmas irritates people.
I found that the Christmas set-list dragged a bit and would have been much better alternating between Christmas and non-Christmas songs. It would also have the effect of opening up her regular catalogue to a Christmas audience which is never a bad thing.
(Wednesday 4 October 2023; 11:15)
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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,647)
by Andrew from the UK
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In other words: she has taken something used in a meme to mock her and, in one fell swoop, owns it. Cannot even believe the self-depricating humour she has shown is the source of criticism. It's like moaning about her having lost weight: give her credit where it's due.
(Tuesday 3 October 2023; 15:50)
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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,646)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Mariah isn't defrosting, and that Mariah her self sees the irony in this is the reason she can say that about herself. I regulary check how many monthly listeners the biggest artists from the 80's and 90's have on Spotify. I know Spotify is not the best streaming service to use to asess how popular an artist is, cause there are large differences between countries in how widespread the service is being used, mostly Scandinavian, European and Western countries use it. But at the moment Mariah has almost 25 million monthly listeners, 176th place in the world. For an artist who started in 1990, that is not a bad number.
Just a few months ago, Madonna had almost as many listeners, but she has seen a ressurgance in listeners the last few months, and now is up to almost 40 million monthly listeners. But Mariah is way ahead of Celine Dion, Kylie Minogue (even though she has a new album out), Cher, David Bowie, Prince, George Michael and many of the greats from the last decades. She is ahead of Whitney Houston as well. The current artists Mariah can't compeet with, but my point is, Mariah isn't defrosting before Christmas, that is just how she is talked about in our culture right now, how people on social media use humor, make memes, cause she is like this wave, a tsunami, you can't escape between 1st of November and 31st of December, everyone knows it, and everyone is inn with the joke.
Truth is, Mariah is one of the most listened to artists from the last four decades all through the year. So, people on this board, don't get fooled by the memes and the gimmicks surounding Mariah from now on and untill Christmas, she is not defrosting, cause she has never been frozen, non pun intended, Madonna
(Tuesday 3 October 2023; 15:15)
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by Andrew from the UK
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Andrew, AJ, Andy - my friends call me Andy. You feel free to call me Andy.
(Tuesday 3 October 2023; 00:45)
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Sundays must be your beauty rest day. I was expecting to hear some more your critiques Andy boo. I will check back tomorrow.
(Monday 2 October 2023; 04:21)
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Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,637)
by Andrew from the UK
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How did you do? I love me some Randy - but you did badly, bro. Mariah has hardly offered up nothing of her back catalogue in the last three years. (The Rarities 3 years ago today, no?) You are way off the mark here. That Mariah can see actually irony means she has her eyes wide open.
(Monday 2 October 2023; 21:50)
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Well, I guess I'll shut up then (103,636)
by Randy from USA
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She said it herself on her Facebook concert promo. "Yes, the actual defrosting has begun." If she's fine with being frozen from January 2 - October 31 each year, why am I arguing for her legacy. I'll join the lambs. Yaaassss Mariah. Hit number one again. AIWFCIY is the best thing you've ever done. It's your signature song. It's the only part of your catalogue that matters. My queens slays 9 weeks every year. AIWFCIY has won 28 Grammys, gotten you into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and won you a video vanguard. Your legacy just like your voice is completely intact. How did I do?
(Monday 2 October 2023; 20:20)
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George Michael / 3-words (103,633)
by Andrew from the UK
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What was he like? He was the softest and most unassuming of the big-name celebrities I have met - like most celebrities they appreciate people around them who are casual and not starstruck. But it didn't register with me at the time that he was - and is - one of the best-selling artists of all time. He did not seem fully comfortable being around people. I just felt warmth and compassion for him. I think it appropriate to say we shall never look upon his like again.
To continue the original irony of that quote: Here is George. This was the night. And *that* right there is my rather expensive bottle of voddy. But it was rather funny seeing this in the newspaper a couple of days later. And it's George bloody Michael. So all is forgiven, Sir.
I think there are many contenders for the 3 most beautiful words in the English language: aside from the obvious, "let me help" is certainly powerful. But I would suggest that "one more try" is a great axiom and a brilliant mantra by which to live.
I am currently now listening to One More Try and Heavenly on repeat thru my headphones and I will admit they have me a bit emotional. The songs go very well together and I think Mariah can lay claim to: "never give up". But whether "never give up" or "one more try" - please, don't ever anyone ever give up, for you always have one more try within you. Just one more try.
Stand fast.
(Monday 2 October 2023; 12:38)
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by Mara from United States
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Ok, now I've come out of creeping on the board. Please do tell your encounter with the King of Lovlies himself George.
(Monday 2 October 2023; 06:19)
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Drake gets his 12th number one (103,632)
by Andrew from the UK
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How can I stay out of your replies - when I apparently live rent-free in your head?
(Monday 2 October 2023; 11:29)
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Drake gets his 12th number one (103,623)
by Terna from Nigeria
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"...prolly too old to keep up huh." - I guess you're not on a spellchecker. Exactly my point, now stay outta my replies.
(Sunday 1 October 2023; 03:21)
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The greats (103,619)
by Andrew from the UK
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Jamie I really do hope social media does one. It is horrid and vile. I dabbled in Facebook, Insta and X for a few months each in my time but my anxiety levels rose sharply, I was becoming addicted, falling down the rabbit hole many times.
There was something magical about owning hardcopies of film and music media. My Mariah CD collection was a pride and a joy. Purchasing and adding a release to it was an event, not least the excitement and anticipation of going to Woolworths to buy it. And buy it with cash or a bank card. Handing over something physical to receive something physical in exchange allowed for a consideration of loss and gain within the transaction. As it is now, there is no true measurement of success or popularity, perhaps.
I recognise how much of a dinosaur that makes me sound.Yet there a feeling of emptiness that streaming gives me. If something were to feature in social media ads or commentary, I will, like others, open Spotify immediately to play it. I would suggest that rather than hearing it on the radio and then committing to a journey to purchase it, the way of streaming is unrepresenative of how good something it. If something requires no significant commitment then artists' careers simply become self-perpetuating. The likes of Taylor Swift would not have survived in the 90's because their output is not as good, and the commitment from the end user would not have materialised.
That Mariah was so popular 1990 - 2010 is something quire remarkable.
(Saturday 30 September 2023; 17:42)
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The greats (103,612)
by Jamie from UK
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I often wonder what will happen in the future, will they all get sick off social media and having things instantly. Already with the surge in vinyl are we seeing people going back to traditional ways. I'd be quite happy with social media going as I feel it's having a negative impact on almost everything
(Saturday 30 September 2023; 00:23)
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The greats (103,618)
by Andrew from the UK
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Bobby-A: what have I told you about thinking? Don't to it to yourself. But here you may be right.
I predict Last Christmas will do very well this year on the back of the Wham anniversary and Netflix documentary - which I recommend to any and everyone.
Personally, I hitherto never clicked with the song . But I now love it because of nostalgia and a renewed love of George Michael - who I once met. Not sure if I've ever mentioned that.
(Saturday 30 September 2023; 17:27)
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
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You got me thinking again, Edward. Wham's Last Christmas streaming numbers were exceedingly high last Christmas. Last Christmas may come close to being #1 this year too. Wouldn't it be cool if it were 4 weeks of the top two spots back and forth between the two biggest Christmas songs in the world. However, RATCT may keep Last Christmas at #3. We will have to wait and see come November 15th which song will contend with AIWFCIY for the top spot. This is going to be interesting to see what happens.
(Saturday 30 September 2023; 00:19)
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The greats (103,617)
by Andrew from the UK
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Eddie, you have hit the nail on the head. Just when we thought hardcopy format were over and downloading to be the future forever and ever, no takesies backsies - streaming is the future: what you want, when you want, as many times as you want, no need to wait, no memory needed, batteries not included.
It is for this reason that AIWFCIY is a current mainstay. If everyone downloaded it and didn't stream it - would it not dissapear from the top of the charts? It is for this reason that Mariah does well with it.
I do believe it will be around for many a year long after we here have all passed. Yet I am not so certain as to whether people will not become annoyed with it and stop streaming it. I am not certain that Christmas in its current guise will survive the depressing onslaught of woke ideology and control. Here's hoping.
Stand fast.
(Saturday 30 September 2023; 17:23)
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by Edward from USA
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Well, downloading music doesn't matter anymore. Most people stream because the music is available on YouTube and many other platforms and it still counts, hence AIWFCIY hitting the stop spot for three consecutive years now.
In the very distant future, I think that's a possibility though.
(Saturday 30 September 2023; 00:16)
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by Andrew from the UK
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Will Christmas music, itself, survive the new modern era of downloads and social media? As on a bell curve, the peak in Christmas music "resurging" every year must surely have come and will one day be gone. Can you really not envisage a world where the kids say no to Christmas music and embrace the influx of multi-varied offers?
(Friday 29 September 2023; 22:43)
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by Edward from USA
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Mariah's discography, while glorious and impressive, will eventually be in the past with those of us who have lived it as decades go by. That's why AIWFCIY is so important. AIWFCIY is bigger than Mariah herself. I doubt "I Will Always Love You", "My Heart Will On" and "Hero" will be a thing a hundred years from now. By then, she'll probably be the only diva of the past being played at Christmas time and her voice will make some people curious about her life and music.
(Friday 29 September 2023; 17:12)
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Drake gets his 12th number one (103,605)
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"I [guess] you're not on social media..." - What do you think *this* is?
"...prolly too old to keep up huh." - I guess you're not on a spellchecker.
"Well let me help you out with a short list:" - This is my point: the list is somewhat non-existent. Let's have a look:
"1. "Fantasy" had a moment with Latto" - Two years ago.
"2. "Its a Wrap" for months, so much she re–released it" - What number in the Billboard Charts did it reach?
3. "Touch My Body" is currently having its moment for the second time (if I'm correct)" - Do TikTok videos qualify as a 'resurgence'? I don't see Mariah booking a stadia tour on the back of them?
"4. And there's "All I Want for Christmas" - You consider this a "resurgence" - it's an annual event. Behave.
"All these are [streaming/social] media resurgences where the whole world lives and thrives off of these days." - That's about as spurious and as vague a comment as I have read on here.
"Hope [you're] clear now." - No, but it was fun. I enjoyed ya.
(Friday 29 September 2023; 17:00)
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Drake gets his 12th number one (103,604)
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I [guess] you're not on social media, prolly too old to keep up huh. Well let me help you out with a short list: 1. "Fantasy" had a moment with Latto 2. "Its a Wrap" for months, so much she re–released it 3. "Touch My Body" is currently having its moment for the second time (if I'm correct) 4. And there's "All I Want for Christmas" All these are [streaming/social] media resurgences where the whole world lives and thrives off of these days. Hope [you're] clear now.
(Friday 29 September 2023; 13:03)
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All I've Ever Wanted (103,600)
by Andrew from the UK
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As much as I love Music Box 30 - it has only led me to fall back in love with All I've Ever Wanted. It is somewhat odd that this never became a big ballad single, far better than any Whitney output as it is.
(Friday 29 September 2023; 01:23)
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Drake gets his 12th number one (103,599)
by Andrew from the UK
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"She keeps resurging with old songs" - pray, how do you find 'resurging' and with what "old songs" is this happening? Actual information on each one, when and by what means would be helpful for people to look up.
(Friday 29 September 2023; 01:19)
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Drake gets his 12th number one (103,597)
by Terna from Nigeria
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And her entire catalog is being celebrated and rediscovered by the yougins - the reason why she keeps resurging with old songs that charted years prior. Her body of work speaks volumes. Honestly, Mariah easily has the best discography in the industry.
(Friday 29 September 2023; 00:33)
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A question for Eric (103,595)
by Andrew from the UK
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"In jerk"? Some things should be kept to yourself, Jamie. It's very cool you were in Wembley for Rainbow. How funny that we were once in the same room. You could have been stood right next to me. However, given that you're built like a brick shithouse I would have remembered. Or possibly not as I spent most of the concert in tears.
(Thursday 28 September 2023; 03:39)
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A question for Eric (103,585)
by Jamie from UK
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Ah I was at Wembley too for Rainbow tour. My mum got me the ticket as I was in jerk when they went on sale.
(Wednesday 27 September 2023; 10:34)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,577)
by Andrew from the UK
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Put down the pipe and if you see lights on the horizon, walk towards them with your hands in the air.
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 02:00)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,573)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Are you talking about that "working the street" song with the great vocals and Price Sisters harmonies?
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 01:13)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,576)
by Andrew from the UK
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One Night a flux capacitor to 1995. Just one more song from that album would be mindblowing. I'm down for Daydream with you, Stace. Don't nobody be coming for that album. We got this.
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 01:58)
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by Stacey from USA
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I get a little giddy thinking about what MC may pull out of the vault for my beloved Daydream's 30th anniversary.
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 00:40)
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A question for Eric (103,574)
by Andrew from the UK
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My brothers fell in love with Mariah Carey the same time I did, albeit not so much. This was 93/94. My father liked singers, not bands, also. My brothers took me to Mariah in London in February 2000 for Rainbow - mostly because I made them. Even then, none of their friends made fun. Seeing Mariah Carey was an event. No shame.
I wonder: what were the three comments you received? What do your friends and family think now? We have had our ups and downs, you and I. But I think it quite something that for 25 years you have kept something like this going. Not least, the latter half of that incorrectly correcting my grammar.
If I could suggest something: some new colours and new layour would work.
(Tuesday 26 September 2023; 01:55)
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A question for Eric (103,569)
by Andrew from the UK
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The Queer Theory argument has me wondering: you're a straight bloke, you love Mariah Carey. 25 years maintaining a website for her. What made you love her? What made you a lifelong fan? Do you get any negativity for it, being straight?
Genuinely interested.
[Webmaster: You can find my life story here. In real life, I only received three negative comments for being a Mariah fan, but I never ever got a comment that being a Mariah fan equals being gay.]
(Monday 25 September 2023; 20:02)
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A question for Eric (103,569)
by Andrew from the UK
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The Queer Theory argument has me wondering: you're a straight bloke, you love Mariah Carey. 25 years maintaining a website for her. What made you love her? What made you a lifelong fan? Do you get any negativity for it, being straight?
Genuinely interested.
[Webmaster: You can find my life story here. In real life, I only received three negative comments for being a Mariah fan, but I never ever got a comment that being a Mariah fan equals being gay.]
(Monday 25 September 2023; 20:02)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,568)
by Andrew from the UK
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I would love more tracks from:
Daydream Glitter E=MC2
In that order.
I appreciate your love of the debut voice, but I think it was too without emotion and nuance. “Treated me kind-ah, sweet destiny-ah, carried me thru desperayshunn, to the one that was waiting for me-ah.”
(Monday 25 September 2023; 20:01)
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I Don't Wanna Cry (103,567)
by Bill from the UK
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I will leave this earth a happy man if I hear I Lose Control and anything else from the debut era that's not been released.
As for IDWC, the live version on the Daydream tour is always how I imagined she wanted to approach the song. The album version is nice, but the 1996 live version is show stopping.
(Sunday 24 September 2023; 23:53)
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Triumphant (103,564)
by Andrew from the UK
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My friend Aaron at the time who would mock Mariah really really loved the Triumphant remixes. But for those, the entire project was a mess. As was most things Mariah did post-Nick Cannon. Oh, what could have been. Triumphant started really well but then the second rap verse is a bizarre mess: Lamborghinis and blond bombshells? Really fits the message.
(Sunday 24 September 2023; 02:07)
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Triumphant (103,557)
by Jamie from UK
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I really like Triumphant. I like the message behind it, I understand why it didn't do great as she's only technically featured on the chorus and the performance at rocafella just highlighted that fact as she just showed her face half way through the performance. So that didn't help. Perhaps if she's titled it Rick Ross-Meek Mill-Mariah Carey Triumphant it might have got more attention. As I think more people were too busy discussing her lack of presence on her own single as apposed to the actual song. But who knows. Fantastic remixes too.
(Saturday 23 September 2023; 14:04)
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