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Whitney vs MC (114,161) by TheButterflyReturns from United States Substance use disorder in the context of celebrity often gets glamorized in a way that it wouldn't with non-celebrities. I'm not arguing that it should be stigmatized, but having it glamorized in the context of figures like Whitney Houston, Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain, etc under the guise of an artistic archetype is just as bad. Whitney and others never got the help they needed for substance use disorder, but people would somehow rather celebrate the "authenticity" than grapple with the sad, warped lives many of these people led. (Tuesday 14 July 2026; 14:17) this is a reply to message 114,159

Whitney vs MC (114,159) by Zachariah from Croatia I guess you all are better person then me because I have a problem to have admiration and respect for her remarkable career while she killed it with her drug abuse and bullshitting in Oprah interview how she is saved and found the Lord while Mariah was mocked and ridiculed for years after experiencing a very public mental health crisis. That contrast has always stood out to me. It made me question why addiction was often met with sympathy and her "connection" with her public, while mental illness became the subject of jokes and criticism. Being completely honest - I would rather see diva persona anytime than a sweaty "crack is wack" persona. (Tuesday 14 July 2026; 10:34)

Whitney vs MC (114,160) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I don't. Whitney was grounded. This is the same woman who said she made too much money to smoke crack in a taped interview, right? There's a line between "authenticity" and delusion, and I think WH crossed that line in the late 90s and early 00s. Once Robyn Crawford left WH's circle, her life really went downhill in a way that ultimately led to her death and the death of her daughter. I don't understand how someone so self destructive can be remembered with such rose-colored glasses. (Tuesday 14 July 2026; 14:04) this is a reply to message 114,156

Whitney vs MC (114,156) by Edward from USA Perception matters, my dear, especially when it comes to being taken seriously as an artist. Whitney was always Whitney. At her peak, she was phenomenal, and at her lowest, she never relied on smoke and mirrors to convince people she could still sing the way she once did. Everyone knew her voice had declined, but she still got on stage and sang. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't, but people respected the honesty. She also remained grounded. Even during the darkest periods of her life, she came across as authentic and self aware. She could sit down for an interview, have an intelligent conversation, laugh at herself, and connect with people. That authenticity went a long way in shaping how the public perceived her. In my opinion, Mariah is actually the superior overall vocalist. Her range, agility, musicality, and songwriting place her in a league of her own. But somewhere along the way, as Britney once said, she started believing her own hype, and everything went downhill from there. The biggest issue isn't even the vocal decline itself. It happens to every great singer eventually. Aretha's voice was basically shot by the time she passed. The difference is how Mariah chose to handle it. She leaned more and more into heavy lipping, to the point where entire concerts often feel more choreographed around playback cues than live singing. There's a huge difference between using backing tracks for a difficult climax or to protect your voice and essentially lipping through 80% of a concert. Whitney was booed in Australia and criticized elsewhere because people could hear that her voice wasn't what it once was. Some fans even walked out. But she still stood there and sang. She didn't try to convince the audience they were hearing something they weren't. Whether people enjoyed the performance or not, there was an honesty to it that earned respect. People also forget that Whitney remained remarkably consistent for nearly two decades. Even on "Just Whitney", released in 2002, she still sounded very good considering everything she was dealing with. Mariah's vocal consistency, on the other hand, began to decline much earlier, only about seven years into her career. She could still blow and make great albums like "Glitter", but reproducing that level of singing live became increasingly difficult, and that's what stayed in people's minds. Then there's the performance aspect. Whitney remained a natural entertainer almost until the end. Mariah, by contrast, has become increasingly limited on stage over the past decade. Whether it's because of physical limitations, high heels, or simply her bipolar condition, she often appears stiff and overly cautious, which only reinforces the perception that everything is carefully controlled. So yes, I still believe Mariah is the greater overall artist. But I also think she bears the responsibility for the way she's perceived today. It's not just because her voice changed. It's because of the image she cultivated, the reliance on heavy lipping, and the over the top diva persona that eventually ended up lifting her feet from solid ground and devouring her. Legacy isn't built solely on vocal ability, chart records, or awards. It's also built on credibility, authenticity, and the impression you leave on people. That's why artists like Whitney, Barbra Streisand, and Celine Dion continue to command a certain level of universal respect. Their accomplishments matter, but so does the way they've carried themselves. Mariah's legacy is extraordinary, and nothing can erase what she's accomplished. But perception matters. It's what people remember when your name comes up in conversation. Sadly, even many of her longtime fans who once proudly wore her name on their heads now prefer to keep it to themselves. I don't think that's because we've stopped loving her. It's because, over the years, she's made it increasingly difficult for us to defend her, people can't seem to separate the legendary artist from the diva persona she's keeps holding on to. She really thinks the diva persona is killing it, and she's actually right about it. (Monday 13 July 2026; 17:16)

Daydream 30 (114,155) by TheButterflyReturns from United States "Like the hermit with his puzzle Like the pitbull with no muzzle Like Travolta with no hustle Schwarzeneggеr with no muscle..." (Monday 13 July 2026; 15:46) this is a reply to message 114,154

Daydream 30 (114,154) by Zachariah from Croatia We are getting a double album - Daydream 31 and Someones Ugly Daughter and then later 25th anniversary for Glitter. (Monday 13 July 2026; 14:41)

Daydream 30 (114,153) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I think Glitter 25 is also coming this year since the soundtrack album and movie have been removed from streaming services. She confirmed she's working on the Glitter deluxe edition earlier this year. The timing for Daydream 30 is better this year since she doesn't have a new album coming out and isn't finishing up an anniversary tour (The Celebration of Mimi) like she was last year. I'm glad she took a break from touring earlier this year to rest. She had a lot going on in 2025. (Monday 13 July 2026; 13:28) this is a reply to message 114,142

Daydream 30 (114,142) by TJ from Norway Since it's a year on overtime, I hope it's filled with that secret album. But Daydream 30 and Glitter 25 this autumn? Maybe Glitter is put in the freezer for the next 5 years. (Sunday 12 July 2026; 14:11)

I could never forget about Daydream (114,141) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I'm freaking out. Daydream 30 and Glitter 25. I remember earlier this year Mariah said she had an "epic" year in store. She wasn't lying. (Sunday 12 July 2026; 13:25) this is a reply to message 114,134

I could never forget about Daydream (114,134) by Lighty from China Mariah posted a blurred photo of the Daydream photoshoot on FB and IG. Could it be the belated Daydream30 or Daydream30+Someone's Ugly Daughter (finally)? Let's wait and see. (Sunday 12 July 2026; 03:05)

Daydream re-release pending? (114,133) by TheButterflyReturns from United States Mariah just posted a mysterious message about Daydream on Instagram: Looks like we might be getting a 30th anniversary release after all. Maybe it just got delayed because of "Here For it All", the Mimi concerts and the Christmas shows? (Sunday 12 July 2026; 02:46)

Greatest artist / WH vs MC (114,131) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I think Mariah is a better artist than Whitney. Mariah's songs are far better than Whitney's songs - most of which were covers or material chosen for her by other people. Whitney was a great vocalist and interpreter but her material often lacked personality. Her studio albums often felt like collections of songs, not artistic statements like Mariah's. The people who are so reactive to Tori's answer clearly still see Mariah as a "white girl trying to sing black", which says more about them than it does about Mariah or Whitney. (Saturday 11 July 2026; 22:54) this is a reply to message 114,126

Greatest artist / WH vs MC (114,126) by Lambi from USA That's debatable. I'd say Whitney and Mariah birthed most of the vocal pop girlies who came after them, with Mariah having a slight edge simply because she covered more styles. Heck, she even got Aretha to sing Touch My Body. Lecrae also interviewed Tori Kelly and asked her the same question. Tori picked Mariah, and Lecrae could not handle it. He said, "Someone's going to hate you for that. They're hating on you right now. They're saying you have lost your mind." Tori doubled down, "That's okay. I love them both but I really was raised more with Mariah Carey. I won a big trophy singing Vision of Love when I was 9 years old, so I'm sticking with Mariah." She was obviously just being authentic. It's interesting though. I watch these street type interviews, and almost every time a black person is asked, "Mariah or Whitney?" the immediate answer is Whitney which sort of makes me feel like there's a bit of colorism at play because it happens so often. Their general tone towards Mariah is just kind of like, "She's not even competition to Whitney" which makes me wonder, is her music just not played at cookouts? Why are we acting like she isn't formidable vocally? She arguably did more technically demanding things and has a much broader catalog. Then when you actually hear from the real black vocal queens like Aretha or Patti, they praise the hell out of Mariah. Aretha famously wanted to sing with MC and MC only during Divas Live, and Patti handpicked Mariah to perform in her tribute despite Whitney being available. She was literally in the same building that night. I talked to a black friend of mine (who sings) about it, and his take was basically, "Mariah has a reputation as a lip-syncer, a phony," and "The average person will feel stupid picking her if we're talking real singing." I was like, "Okay, fair." I didn't really have a rebuttal because it made perfect sense then it just kind of made me sad realizing how tarnished Mariah's credibility really has become. (Saturday 11 July 2026; 00:59)

The greatest female artist of all time snub (114,121) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I love Mariah, but I don't think she's the greatest of all time in terms of artistry. I'd probably say Joni Mitchell, Aretha Franklin, or Billie Holiday were the greatest in terms of influence. Commercial success is another story. And I'm sure Mariah would probably reserve the "greatest" label for Aretha Franklin. (Thursday 9 July 2026; 22:08) this is a reply to message 114,109

The greatest female artist of all time snub (114,109) by Bobby A from United States Why doesn't the music industry recognize MC more as the greatest female artist of all time? We all know that she has definitely earned the title. I think the music industry doesn't want to recognize her as the versatile artist that she is because it would cause an uproar among Whitney Houston's fanbase and stir up the whole debate of MC being the female artist who started the trend of merging pop, R&B and hip hop together. (Tuesday 7 July 2026; 03:50)

MC's best bridge (114,095) by TheButterflyReturns from United States A place in time still belongs to us Stays preserved in my mind In the memories there is solace (Saturday 4 July 2026; 13:09) this is a reply to message 114,084

MC's best bridge (114,084) by Bobby A from United States I have to say Crybaby has to be MC's best written bridge ever. What do you think? I know there are four other MC songs that would land in the top 5 of her best bridge section ever. (Friday 3 July 2026; 01:48)

Taylor Swift (114,051) by TheButterflyReturns from United States The records are eventually going to be surpassed by someone else. It's unfortunate that Mariah is being supplanted by someone as irritating as Taylor Swift, but oh well. And whenever you spar with Whitney fans, just remember to ask them "How many of Whitney's number one hits did she co-write and co-produce herself?" That will shut them up. (Sunday 28 June 2026; 13:51) this is a reply to message 114,040

Taylor Swift (114,040) by Randy from USA Even though I don't post much more anymore, I still troll this board to catch reactions, I'm shocked no one has anything to say about Taylor Swift's 15th number one. Has everyone just resigned MC is not gonna hold on to her record? Ima be honest, when I used to spar against a Whitney fan about MC having more number ones. He used to say, yeah but Whitney's are known. I could make the argument Didn't We Almost Have It All isn't well known. For MC Thank God I Found You is obscure. But with Taylor Swift and Drake, I maybe could name 4 a piece. Maybe it's generational. I mean The Beatles are musicians, singers and songwriters. Mariah was a masterful vocalist and is still a killer songwriter. Whitney is probably the greatest live singer of all time. MJ and Madonna are American cultural iconic figures as much as Coke and Levi's. I just don't see Taylor Swift, Rihanna or Drake anywhere near as important. That's the insult of MCs record being in jeopardy for me. (Friday 26 June 2026; 21:23)

It's a wrap (114,008) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I never said she's the next great phenomenal actress. All I said is that maybe there is some untapped potential there and that it's something Mariah could try again to get herself out of the rut she's in. I swear some of you people are so argumentative and catty and want to misrepresent or malign people who post something that even slightly challenges your worldview. (Wednesday 17 June 2026; 12:35) this is a reply to message 114,004

It's a wrap (114,004) by Zachariah from Croatia We're nearly two decades removed from Tennessee and people are still talking about Mariah's acting "potential" like Hollywood is desperately overlooking the next great dramatic actress. Maybe the simpler explanation is that she's a phenomenal musician and a mediocre actress. Not every criticism of her acting career can be blamed on Glitter. (Tuesday 16 June 2026; 23:47)

It's a wrap (114,002) by TheButterflyReturns from United States We're just going to have to disagree on this one. I think Mariah has some untapped potential on the acting front (evidenced by "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee") and has been unfairly written off on that front due to the failure of "Glitter". She actually received good reviews for her performances in "Wisegirls" and "Tennessee". The films just didn't get wide releases outside of the festival circuit. Attempting another film like "Tennessee" could lead to another interesting musical collaboration like "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson. It could spark something that takes Mariah out of her comfort zone. I just don't see Mariah writing and producing for other artists - if she comes up with something good, she's going to want to keep it for herself. (Tuesday 16 June 2026; 17:02) this is a reply to message 113,997

It's a wrap (113,997) by Edward from USA An unknown mediocre actor is not the same thing as Mariah Carey being mediocre at acting. Everything Mariah does gets magnified because of who she is. A random actor can be average and nobody cares. Mariah can't. Every role, every performance, every line delivery is going to be picked apart because she's Mariah Carey. So saying "you don't have to be good to act" kind of misses the point. Sure, you don't. But why would anyone want her to pursue something she's never really been great at when she has other talents that are much more proven? And I don't really buy the argument about her writing and producing either. Not every song written by Diane Warren, Babyface, or any other legendary songwriter is a hit. That's just the nature of the business. The difference is that Mariah has an entire career's worth of songwriting accomplishments behind her. Her track record as a writer is infinitely stronger than her track record as an actress. At the end of the day, it's not about whether she can act. It's about where she's most likely to succeed and create something worthwhile. Outside of Precious, acting has never really been her lane. Writing, producing, and creating music have always been. If she's looking for a new creative outlet, it makes a lot more sense to lean into the things she's actually excelled at instead of chasing a film career that's never really taken off. (Tuesday 16 June 2026; 14:09)

It's a wrap (113,996) by TheButterflyReturns from United States Who says you have to be "good" in order to pursue film and TV roles? There are plenty of people in the film and TV industry who are mediocre. Just look at anything that Tyler Perry has put out and you can see that superb acting chops are not a requirement to be in a hit film or TV show. At least it would be something different than robotically miming past hits. And you forget... Mariah has already tried writing and producing for her other artists in the past with pretty middling results. I think her ego is too big to go back to letting other artists to sing stuff that she's written and produced. In the past, most of the things she wrote for other people were cast offs - songs she didn't want to keep for herself because they weren't very good. She's not disciplined enough to do what Diane Warren, Babyface and other professional songwriters do. (Tuesday 16 June 2026; 12:26) this is a reply to message 113,991

It's a wrap (113,991) by Edward from USA "Acting again", is that a joke? "Precious" is the closest she's ever come to actually acting. In most of her other roles, she was basically just playing herself. At this point, I think she should stay away from acting and focus on writing and producing. Out of all her talents, those are the areas where she can still really shine and make the most of what she brings to the table. JLo is to singing what Mariah is to acting. (Monday 15 June 2026; 20:25)

It's a wrap (113,989) by TheButterflyReturns from United States It certainly does seem like Mariah has been in a pattern of "arrested development" since the "Butterfly" era. She has worked with different producers but they're overall from the same musical lane. There have been rare exceptions - "Right to Dream" with Willie Nelson, "Giving Me Life" with Blood Orange, "Beautiful" with Miguel. From where I sit, Mariah seems unwilling to step outside her comfort zone and content to release a throwaway album here and there while concentrating energy on legacy releases and the massive royalty checks coming in at Christmas time. Music doesn't seem to bring her much joy these days, so I wonder if it might be an opportune time to attempt acting again even if it's just Made for TV movies or a periodic TV show role. She did good work in "Wisegirls", "Precious", and "Tennessee". I'd rather see her do that for a while than just watching her lip sync past hits joylessly in overpriced stadium shows year after year. (Monday 15 June 2026; 15:35) this is a reply to message 113,988

It's a wrap (113,988) by Bill from the UK I did see that my friend, and like every time I see her and JD in that damn studio together I inwardly sigh because she's once again staying in the same gear she's been in since Butterfly. At this point I'm wishing they are there to close that blessed studio down once and for all. (Monday 15 June 2026; 14:51)

Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (113,965) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I agree with the thrust of this. Mariah is definitely to be commended for co-writing and co-producing her own material, but her work writing and producing for other artists is pretty marginal. But then again there are not many successful recording artists who also have major success composing material for others. It makes sense because you wouldn't want to give away great self-penned material to others if you can keep it for yourself. Bruce Springsteen gave "Because the Night" to Patti Smith and Stevie Wonder gave "Tell Me Something Good" to Rufus and Chaka Khan, but those songs are exceptions rather than rules. No song in Mariah's catalog exemplifies this more than "Hero". Tommy was right to insist she keep it rather than giving it to Gloria Estefan. (Saturday 13 June 2026; 22:36) this is a reply to message 113,960

Mariah Carey doesn't show up for longtime collaborator (113,960) by jaker20 from US It's crazy that Mariah was first recognized by Songwriter Hall of Fame first, when she's not even writing anything anymore. Her latest album took maybe 10 years to write, and I love the album and all, but that does really warrant a Hall of Fame award? Mariah is a great writer, written so many great songs, and from the very beginning of her career she wanted to be known for that, not just her voice, because that's what really separates her from the great divas. And she never stopped talking about how she writes constantly and it's a passion of hers and all. But she's not even writing anymore. She's not written a great song for other artists, which is really the mark of a great writer, someone who can write for others. This is the part of her career that is so lacking. Mariah, if you want to be known for being a great writer, then write. (Friday 12 June 2026; 17:55)

Everything Fades Away (113,962) by TheButterflyReturns from United States She didn't have enough humidifiers and didn't sleep for 23 hours the night before to prepare her voice. That's why she pre-recorded the vocals. She was on vocal rest so that her voice would be rested for more pre-recording sessions for The Celebration of Mimi and Christmas shows. She needs a least 72 hours of sleep before she can pre-record vocals. (Friday 12 June 2026; 20:05) this is a reply to message 113,953

Everything Fades Away (113,953) by Lighty from China The Summertime Ball was like 95% lipped lol. (Thursday 11 June 2026; 17:30)

Glitter anniversary (113,937) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I'm so excited for the 25th anniversary edition of Glitter. I just know Mariah will be digging out some gems from the Glitter sessions - unreleased songs and remixes for "Loverboy", "Never too Far/Hero Medley", "Don't Stop", etc. Maybe we will get a "#JusticeForGlitter" Vegas residency? Even if it's heavy on pre-records, it would still be great to see her publicly acknowledge the album that way. I'd also love a deluxe Blu-ray release of the movie with lots of bonus features. I think we should get the details over the next few months since 9/11/01 is the original release date. (Wednesday 10 June 2026; 02:03) this is a reply to message 113,932

Glitter anniversary (113,932) by Bobby A from United States We should get detailed anniversary news some time in July. This is how she gifted us for the Music Box anniversary. I think we were all shocked MC crafted such a great anniversary collection. (Sunday 7 June 2026; 18:20)

Article: Mariah Carey to take Christmastime special international (113,875) by TheButterflyReturns from United States There are much worse things to have be one's legacy. [censored] I'm more than happy that Mariah has something positive associated with her name. (Thursday 28 May 2026; 16:07) this is a reply to message 113,873

Article: Mariah Carey to take Christmastime special international (113,873) by Randy from USA I said Christmas would be her legacy. Y'all said I was overreacting. Well here we are Christmas in May. I know, I know, maybe the venues had to be booked early. (Thursday 28 May 2026; 02:00)

Reported attempt to put Mariah under guardianship/conservatorship (113,846) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I've heard of "Hollywood Babylon" but preferred to stick with Diane Dimond's book because the book stressed that these abuses impact more than just celebrities. She talks about how the guardianship/conservatorship system has been used to victimize people from all walks of life. We should care about the issue regardless of the social/financial status of the people involved. I knew about Wendy's case and suspected that it may have been attempted with Mariah. But I had never heard it confirmed before. My guess was either Morgan or Stella because both seemed motivated by money and their involvement would align with the official accounts of Mariah's health struggles in 2001 and 2016. (Wednesday 20 May 2026; 14:55) this is a reply to message 113,843

Reported attempt to put Mariah under guardianship/conservatorship (113,843) by Lambi from USA Hi lamb. I recommend reading the book Hollywood Babylon. It highlights: • Exploitation by managers/studios/family. • Repeated public breakdown/mental illness narratives. • The entertainment industry profiting from vulnerable stars. The recurring theme is that stars are treated more like assets than people; controlled financially, medically, and publicly. They sort of follow the same playbook anytime someone tries to get out of major contracts. I believe Mariah survived 2001 by the grace of God. As much I think she is tremendously strong and is a true survivor, I also think after decades of atrocities against your life and legacy, you are inevitably going to be fatigued, which is what I've been feeling from her in these last years. Her overall demeanor, even when laughing, still has that cloud hovering over it. There is such a deep sense of sadness in her eyes that you can just feel. (Wednesday 20 May 2026; 00:17)

Reported attempt to put Mariah under guardianship/conservatorship (113,830) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I'm currently listening to the audiobook of Diane Dimond's book "We're Here to Help: When Guardianship Goes Wrong", which is about abuses of guardianship like those committed against Britney Spears. I just came across a passage where Diane Dimond lists celebrity cases where someone attempted or proposed a guardianship/conservatorship and Mariah's name was mentioned alongside B.B. King, Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and others. Has anyone else read or heard anything about this? It doesn't surprise me that someone tried this against Mariah and it seems most likely to have occurred during the 2001 hospitalizations or the 2016 incident. Stella seems the most likely culprit in my opinion. Dimond's book makes it seem like the system is very easy to weaponize for financial gain. No wonder Mariah was so outspoken in her support for Britney. (Sunday 17 May 2026; 21:21)

Article: Mariah Carey sticking with Gamma Records (113,806) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I think most states level higher property taxes when a home isn't used as their primary residence. It's definitely not unique to New York or California, but I'm sure the tax rates are higher in those states. Mariah's not making the same amount of money - that's true. I think Mariah's making the right decision to off load the penthouse apartment in NYC. It doesn't seem like she's been using it much in the past 10 years, and she's both rented and purchased homes elsewhere. It sounds like she found a house she likes in Connecticut. Diana Ross has lived in Greenwich for a long time, and I remember visiting that area and thinking it was really nice. (Tuesday 12 May 2026; 12:48) this is a reply to message 113,804

Article: Mariah Carey sticking with Gamma Records (113,804) by Edward from USA Once again, stop pulling stuff out of your behind. There's no such law, it's just a proposal called the Pied-à-Terre Tax that's been floating around in New York politics for over a decade now. Mariah is clearly downsizing, and I think she's being smart about it. A lot of artists do that as they get older and the money isn't coming in like it used to. Mariah herself has said there's not much money in streaming, and she's not doing long arena tours either. By the time you pay Uncle Sam, agents, lawyers, managers, staff, and all the other expenses, there's really not as much left as people think. People acting like Mariah is still making 90s money are delusional. (Tuesday 12 May 2026; 03:46)

Mariah cover songs (113,805) by TheButterflyReturns from United States Technically, "Chain of Fools" was a live performance with Aretha Franklin, who is the artist that popularized the song, so I wouldn't say it qualifies as a cover version by Mariah. The duets with Luther and the live performance with Patti LaBelle were both "covers" because "Endless Love" and "Got To Be Real" were songs popularized by artists other than the people Mariah performed them with. (Tuesday 12 May 2026; 12:37) this is a reply to message 113,799

Mariah cover songs (113,799) by TJ from Norway But no Chain of Fools? (Monday 11 May 2026; 18:06)

Mariah cover songs (113,798) by TheButterflyReturns from United States A covers compilation album is an excellent idea. Mariah has so many great and lesser known cover songs, and it would be great to have them all in one place. 1. Don't Play That Song (Live) 2. I'll Be There 3. Just Be Good To Me (live from Music Box Tour or Daydream Tour) 4. Without You 5. My Prayer 6. Endless Love 7. Open Arms 8. The Beautiful Ones 9. If You Only Knew (live) 10. Got to Be Real (live with Patti LaBelle) 11. I Still Believe 12. Sweetheart 13. Do You Know Where You're Going To? 14. Against All Odds 15. Out Here On My Own 16. Didn't Mean to Turn You On 17. Last Night a DJ Saved My Life (No Rap Version) 18. Bringin' on the Heartbreak 19. You And I (Live) 20. With You I Am Born Again (live with John Legend) 21. Help Me Make It Through the Night (from "Tennessee") 22. I Want to Know What Love Is 23. One More Try 24. Lullaby of Birdland (live) 25. Don't Explain (live) 26. My Love This could easily be a two-disc compilation, and I bet Mariah has some others buried in the vault. (Monday 11 May 2026; 16:31) this is a reply to message 113,796

Mariah cover songs (113,796) by T from USA I like the idea of Mariah releasing a compilation cover album, maybe with a few more new covers added. 1. We're Not Making Love Anymore (1990) 2. I'll Be There (1992) 3. Without You (1993) 4. Endless Love (1994) 5. Open Arms (1995) 6. Just Be Good To Me (1996) 7. The Beautiful Ones (1997) 8. I Still Believe (1998) 9. Sweetheart (1998) 10. Do You Know Where You're Going To (1998) 11. Against All Odds (1999) 12. Out Here On My Own (2000) 13. Didn't Mean To Turn You On (2001) 14. Last Night A DJ Saved My Life (2001) 15. Bringing On The Heartbreak (2002) 16. You & I (2003) 17. With You I'm Born Again (2004) 18. I Want To Know What Love Is (2009) 19. One More Try (2014) 20. My Love (2025) (Monday 11 May 2026; 14:06)

Mariah leaving Gamma (113,777) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I think it is for the best. Gamma hasn't produced much in the way of results for any of the artists it has partnered with. I didn't expect Mariah to have huge success with the album, but they definitely should have put in more effort after the "Type Dangerous" rollout. Hopefully, Mariah can coordinate with Sony and Universal Music Group to ensure that Glitter gets a great 25th anniversary treatment and that we finally get the "Somebody's Ugly Daughter" release with Mariah's original vocals. (Wednesday 6 May 2026; 14:03) this is a reply to message 113,776

Mariah leaving Gamma (113,776) by Bobby A from United States MC seemed unhappy with Gamma earlier this year with no evidence of a real partnership that was promoted before HFIA dropped in September. MC's last straw was probably Larry Jackson saying no to releasing the HFIA deluxe. I feel like Gamma dropped the ball on Play This Song and In Your Feelings with their lack of promotion at radio and Valentine's Day TV ads. Both could have been bigger songs on the Hot 100. It is like Gamma poured all the money into the Type Dangerous video and didn't provide anymore money for other videos and promotion. We have been down this road before for the third time with another one album label. (Wednesday 6 May 2026; 11:44)

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,766) by TheButterflyReturns from United States I agree. Brenda and Arthur Baker both come across like they have chips on their shoulders in that interview. Arthur is probably jealous that Mariah went with Tommy Mottola and Sony and worked with producers other than him. Both were seeming to imply that Mariah made up portions of her "being discovered" story, but I question their motivations. It was unrealistic for Brenda to expect so many favors from Mariah simply because Brenda was helpful to her in getting signed. Brenda was Mariah's employer, so their relationship was primarily a professional one. A former employer typically shouldn't be expecting an employee to help them out after the contractual obligations are fulfilled. Mariah has never portrayed that relationship as super close personal relationship in the manner that Brenda has, and I think there's a reason for that. Watching that interview, I also noticed that Brenda gets song titles from Mariah's first album and demo wrong - so I am not sure I completely trust her version of events. (Monday 4 May 2026; 12:55) this is a reply to message 113,757

Brenda K on relationship with MC (113,757) by Lambi from USA MC saying "What do you want me to do? Be indebted to you for the rest of my life?" is accurate. Like I said Mariah is smart. Brenda introducing an ultimatum was weird. "If I get you a record deal, you're gonna buy me my first house, right?" Then making her sign it, "I Mariah Carey will buy Brenda a house if I get famous" she's framing it in jest now but you don't formalize a "joke" with a written agreement unless you're hoping it holds weight later. It's so deeply manipulative. She's another Morgan, "There wouldn't be a Mariah Carey if it wasn't for me." They're those type of people who help because they know there's a big trade. None of it was ever really from the heart because the entitlement to Mariah's wealth thereafter is ridiculous. (Friday 1 May 2026; 23:02)

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