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Number one (104,448) by Edward from USA "Maybe I'm just being paranoid (our resident annoying cute friend Edward here thinks I am)." You are, but it's good to see you're coming around. You now recognize that Brenda and her team just put in the work while Mariah and her team were resting in their laurels. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 02:51) this is a reply to message 104,441

Number one (104,441) by jaker20 from US Yep, thanks for posting. That's literally what I meant by my last post. When it's a close race, all these little things matter. And Brenda's team did due diligence and actually worked those promo games. Mariah's team did nothing this year and released nothing new. So in a way Brenda deserves it. By the way, I re-watched Mimi's AppleTV+ Christmas thingy from a couple of years ago. Not many saw it, but my niece loved it. Oh look Mariah has legs and arms and they're moving. She looks happy and animated. It's amazing how just a couple of years has changed for her. Maybe I'm just being paranoid (our resident annoying cute friend Edward here thinks I am). But I think Mariah is distracted.The lack of new projects or any release this season make me think that Tanaka is still in her mind. That story isn't finished. That's just what I think. Anyway, these jealous haters celebrating on twitter when their faves don't even have a classic like AIWFC. It's on its way to becoming the biggest of all time, while their faves don't even have a song the charted in decades. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 21:33)

Vocals getting better (104,447) by Edward from USA Her voice was in good shape for Memoirs. She sung IWKWLI live in many shows and it was great. From MIAM on, it has been downhill. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 02:28) this is a reply to message 104,444

Vocals getting better (104,444) by Robert-Anthony from United States I really feel today that MC's voice was going to deteriorate anyway as she got older because of her vocal nodules. It seems now that we are always going to be in a period of her good vocals and the next year with her having bad vocals. With each album since TEOM her vocals declined some period of time between albums during live events. Also, I want to go on the record and say that her vocals during The Angels Advocate Tour were out of this world. I saw MC in Atlanta and I was blown away with high notes she was hitting that night. And that was right after the recording time of the raspy vocals on Memoirs. (Thursday 7 December 2023; 00:20)

Number one (104,440) by Edward from USA The general consensus from the comments is that really good promotion from Brenda and her label was the key factor. A new video and strategic promotion gave RATCT the little push it needed. We have still a few weeks to go. I'm hopeful. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 20:24) this is a reply to message 104,438

Number one (104,438) by enwar00 from usa Billboard has a whole article discussing Brenda going to #1 and what they think can happen going forward. Many points were discussed here too. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 19:15)

Number one (104,433) by Edward from USA True. Brenda who? I had never heard of her. I do really want "Last Christmas" to be number one though. (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 03:40) this is a reply to message 104,426

Number one (104,426) by Andrew from the UK Honestly, who cares? It's a good thing, in my opinion. There is now less pressure to keep maintaining that same level of success with it and frankly I'm bored of the Crimbo song already. And the talk of charts and that Brenda Lee who, sorry sister, should not have been slapped in that bloody awful blonde wig. It's a awful wig, a awful song and a awful nauseating thought that I might accidentally happen to listen to it ever again. It will undoubtedly be playing at the gates of hell upon my entry. Next year is Merry Christmas 30 and the Crimbo Song's 30th. That's a huge, huge deal. I say Mariah do two concerts in Hyde Park, London. Winter in London, Mariah on stage with 65,000 people singing Crimbo songs into the night air, followed by a festive fireworks display. And stream it live on AppleTV. If she did something like this, it would be global news and a massive celebration of the anniversary of her creating something that is truly timeless - unlike these little Christmas shows that nobody really gives two shiny shits about. Barclaycard x Apple presents... Mariah Carey's "Merry Christmas 30" Live in Hyde Park, London December 22 & 23, 2024 Stream it live on AppleTV. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 20:28)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,432) by Edward from USA Andrew, are you the guy walking by George Michael holding a bottle of Vodka? (Wednesday 6 December 2023; 03:31) this is a reply to message 104,427

Rockin' Around #1 (104,427) by Andrew from the UK I literally live in the same country. You're dead to me. Luke. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 20:29)

Article: Mariah Carey dethroned (104,428) by Edward from USA I don't understand. Streams are converted to sales. 150 streams equal 1 track sale. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 21:12) this is a reply to message 104,424

Article: Mariah Carey dethroned (104,424) by Betty from Canada Forbes forgot to mention how Spotify removed AIWFCIY from playlists and Billboard changed the rules to count streaming more than sales. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 18:44)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,423) by Edward from USA Sadly not in the city, but might be moving back. I'd love to though. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 12:43) this is a reply to message 104,420

Rockin' Around #1 (104,420) by Jamie from UK Where in NY are you? Next time I'm there we could grab a coffee? (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 10:37)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,418) by Edward from USA RATCT had been reaching the second spot for four years consecutively. It's not like the song came out of nowhere. AIWFCIY was ahead on airplay and sales. It was just 2.5 M streams. Mariah should up her game with a couple of big televised events. She needs exposure. Here in NY, I haven't heard RATCT anywhere. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 04:16) this is a reply to message 104,410

Rockin' Around #1 (104,410) by Robert-Anthony from United States It seems like UMG has set a precedent this year with RATCT and its aggressive marketing strategies to get it to number #1 after 65 years. Other record labels are going to follow suit next year. Oh, no. Last Christmas will be 40 years old next Christmas. Will Last Christmas make it number #1 with Sony Legacy's help? Brenda has shown us all it takes is a new video, special guest vocalists, a couple of TV appearances, social media and shady Spotify to help get a Christmas song to number one. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:57)

How it went down (104,414) by Edward from USA AIWFCIY - RATCT Streams 32.4 34.9 Airplay 21.5 20.7 Sales 4,000 3,000 Streams and airplay in millions, sales in units. Brenda is number one by 2.5 M streams. It's definitely a tight race. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 01:51)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,413) by Edward from USA Her video hasn't gather that many streams. Mariah's video has way more streams than hers and it is four years old. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 01:30) this is a reply to message 104,410

Rockin' Around #1 (104,410) by Robert-Anthony from United States It seems like UMG has set a precedent this year with RATCT and its aggressive marketing strategies to get it to number #1 after 65 years. Other record labels are going to follow suit next year. Oh, no. Last Christmas will be 40 years old next Christmas. Will Last Christmas make it number #1 with Sony Legacy's help? Brenda has shown us all it takes is a new video, special guest vocalists, a couple of TV appearances, social media and shady Spotify to help get a Christmas song to number one. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:57)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,408) by Edward from USA It has a bullet at number 8 on the Hot 100. Before that it was still bubbling under. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:49) this is a reply to message 104,407

Rockin' Around #1 (104,407) by Terna from Nigeria I smell a rat. The song didn't even have a bullet on the chart as of last week, now suddenly it is number one. I call bull. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:19)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,406) by Edward from USA You need to read without your Illuminati glasses on. I stated: "The music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone." They have some control, but not much. The control is in people's hands. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's a wrap. Don't boycott Brenda now. (Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:17) this is a reply to message 104,400

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,400) by jaker20 from US I think you need to calm down. Now you're backpedaling again lol. You said the music industry don't have a say, then you say they kind of do. lol. Come out and be real now. (Monday 4 December 2023; 22:07)

Rockin' Around #1 (104,401) by Edward from USA Let's be happy for Brenda. Mariah will be number one again eventually. Other songs have been gaining popularity too. (Monday 4 December 2023; 22:20) this is a reply to message 104,398

Rockin' Around #1 (104,398) by enwar00 from usa It's officially #1 on the Billboard Hot 100. Congrats to Brenda Lee. I imagine Mariah is gracious and happy for her. Maybe this can further help against ageism and Mimi can get to #1 in decades to come still. (Monday 4 December 2023; 21:04)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,399) by Edward from USA Labels don't have that much control, period. They have been trying to make artists, songs and albums happen for the longest that never went anywhere. Streaming changed the game, stars and hits have come out straight out of YouTube, streamers gave them that. Promoting helps a lot to bring attention to projects, but people ultimately decide. AIWFCIY has been hitting the top spot for four years in an row, give me a fat effing non-delusional break. Mariah and her team haven't sat their asses down, they have been pushing AIWFCIY way more aggressively than Brenda and her team. Brenda didn't write RATCT, she basically doesn't profit much from it. Stop with the paranoia and conspiracy theories. Wait, I think you're right, the illuminati and Brenda are working together. Who is Brenda sacrificing for the top spot? A lamb, maybe. Who has been boycotting that frail old lady Brenda for four years now? (Monday 4 December 2023; 21:23) this is a reply to message 104,395

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,395) by jaker20 from US Pedro's post isn't paranoia, is it actually true. I'm not sure you fulling understand how it works. A few days ago, you said labels have no control, and I explained to you how that is not true. Labels can influence placement on playlists through Discovery Mode. It is a feature for artists which is some kind of digital payola, where labels received reduced royalty in exchange for prioritized placement. It is not pay by play, but if you understand algorithms, it is very effective. The placement of a song in a playlist with millions of users is very consequential. Im not sure why you're comparing it to you playlist lol. They are not the same. Regular users normally plays a playlist pushed to them by the app, and then stop at a certain point. So makes a massive difference. So the past few weeks, Mariah has not been added on some of the biggest curated playlists, until recently. Brenda's song has been on playlists mentioned below that often doesn't even have to do with Christmas. And that already works against Mariah in terms of boost from algorithms. It has a slower headstart. Like I said, Brenda's team has been aggressive this year and we give them that credit. Mariah's hasn't, probably they felt they didn't need it which I think is a mistake. (Monday 4 December 2023; 19:02)

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,392) by Edward from USA That's not boycott or illegal. You don't have to listen to those playlists. Most people have their own playlists anyway, and Spotify is not the only streaming platform. Brenda wasn't at the top of some of those playlists before. Was she being boycotted since AIWFCIY hit number one? I thought we had moved on from the paranoia lambs tend to have about some mega powerful entity coming for Mariah. AIWFIY and RATCT are the Christmas hits they are because millions of people love them and got them there. You can discount, you can gift, you can pray, you can throw a lambtrum, but all that won't make a song popular or hit if people don't like it. (Monday 4 December 2023; 15:55) this is a reply to message 104,389

Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,389) by Pedro from Brazil AIWFCIY was demoted on several Christmas playlists on Spotify, where it used to be in the top positions (some fans noticed that some playlists even removed the song). Boycott? RATCT was elevated on Spotify playlists, perhaps with help from the record label, which is why it's getting more plays than AIWFCIY. It's a question of position in the playlist. The higher it is, the more it will be played. (Monday 4 December 2023; 14:27)

Emotions formula (104,376) by Edward from USA Have you been living under a rock? As an old time fan you should know about this performance. I'm hereby stripping you from your lamb status. Now you're just a regular fan. You'll regain you lamb status when you start purchasing and streaming AIWFCIY until it reaches number one again. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:56) this is a reply to message 104,373

Emotions formula (104,373) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love "If it's over". One of her best ballads and we know she has so many. But I didn't know this live performance. Wow just wow. Mariah at her best. That's the reason why she's the one and only Mariah Carey. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:41)

Rockin' Around (104,375) by Edward from USA To be honest, I don't even know how RATCT is even competing with AIWFCIY. The latter is way more festive, the former would be like something to play on Christmas Eve. Maybe Mariah and Brenda agree to defrost together next Christmas seaon. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 19:49)

We lost the #1 (104,369) by Edward from USA Apple Music is bigger than Spotify here in America. While I would agree Spotifiy is bigger worldwide, local streaming is what counts towards the Hot 100. Mariah is ahead of Brenda on Apple Music. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:36) this is a reply to message 104,365

We lost the #1 (104,365) by jaker20 from US I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one. Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)

Emotions formula (104,361) by Edward from USA That's what I call a perfectly executed performance. She made it seem so effortless. I used to shove these types of performances in people's faces . Those were the days. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:03) this is a reply to message 104,356

Emotions formula (104,356) by Jamie from UK Exactly Andrew, such a weak song, no emotion, no soul, no body. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55)

We lost the #1 (104,351) by Edward from USA Billboard will publish the new chart on Monday, but tomorrow we'll know for sure. Brenda is ahead on Spotify but Apple Music is bigger on this side of the pond, and Mariah is ahead on that one. Mariah is also bigger in sales. It's kind of weird, when Mariah re-entered the chart at 17, Brenda was just bubbling under the Hot 100, then she re-entered at 8 and Mariah jumped to number 4. Judging by the pattern, Brenda is gathering steam way faster. I guess we lost this one. Congrats to Brenda. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 04:11) this is a reply to message 104,350

We lost the #1 (104,350) by Robert-Anthony from United States Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45)

We lost the #1 (104,349) by Edward from USA If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count. (Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26) this is a reply to message 104,347

We lost the #1 (104,347) by Pedro from Brazil According to Talk of the Charts, Brenda will be #1. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:52)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,343) by Edward from USA I think Mariah reaches the top next week for such a small margine. Airplay, streaming and sales are all going to blow up from next week forward, it's a tight race, but Mariah is still ahead. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:25) this is a reply to message 104,339

Mariah vs Brenda (104,339) by Robert-Anthony from United States I understand now. Oh well, it's going to be a victory or a sad day Tuesday. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:47)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,341) by Edward from USA Being triggered is one thing, but basically sabotaging an artist so they won't be number one is a different monster. Brenda's team's making sure she is promoting, she has a new video, she's giving interviews, she's on Tik Tok, she has an EP with different versions of the song. They are just making sure the song has the best chance at hitting the top spot, it's business. Just like Mariah has been doing it for years. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51) this is a reply to message 104,337

Mariah vs Brenda (104,337) by jaker20 from US Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right. Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond. I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it. But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake. As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,333) by Edward from USA Robert-Anthony, the music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone. They can't influence streaming platforms to block users from playing the music they like, radio just goes along with what's trending or they stay out of the game. Fans have more control, instead of calling like crazy to request, we just go and stream, everything is way different. As I have stated, these two songs have legs of their own, the one that makes it to number one will be based on its own merit and promotional push on big events. AIWFCIY is a pure number 1, people keep buying it after all these years, they keep playing it and streaming it, no gimmicks. If Mariah really wanted, she could break The Beatles' record, just three great collabs with Drake, Ariana and Taylor Swift should take her there. I don't really care for that record though, the way things are, Taylor will eventually top them both. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 17:48) this is a reply to message 104,329

Mariah vs Brenda (104,329) by Robert-Anthony from United States The music business isn't a sweet easy going industry. Every artist will tell you that including sweet Dolly Parton. Record executives aren't playing nice when they are promoting a song to get it to number #1. There are some underhanded strategies being done behind the scenes to make it happen at the UMG executive offices. If RATCT goes to number #1, a huge television media frenzy will be made about it that week. Just my two cents from Texas. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 14:05)

Mariah vs Brenda (104,328) by Edward from USA I agree it's not a conspiracy. The wig post was a simple joke, chill. Now if she had shown a Christmas decorated nipple, that wouldn't be marketing. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 13:51) this is a reply to message 104,327

Mariah vs Brenda (104,327) by The Real Deal from USA What in the actual [censored]? It's not a conspiracy. It's called marketing a song that's already popular and trying to get it to #1. The same way Mariah markets AIWFCIY every year is no different then Brenda Lee putting out a music video for her song. Um, didn't MC make 4 videos for AIWFCIY? And whoever wrote the message "now that they slapped a blonde wig on Brenda" - are you serious? Stop trying to make a conspiracy out of everything when there is none. (Saturday 2 December 2023; 13:40)

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