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Name: Bill
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Re: Vocabulary (100,707) (100,711) by Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 13 July 2022; 21:53)
The topic was about her conversational vocabulary, not her songwriting. We're all in agreement she is an incredibly gifted and talented songwriter which an unerring sense of melody, harmony, and resonating lyrics.

Of course Crapfinity is the exception to that rule.
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Re: Vocabulary (100,702) (100,703) by Bill from the UK
(Tuesday 12 July 2022; 19:58)
It could be true. She may have a debilitating illness like MS, arthritis, Parkinson's etc. but just hasn't announced it publicly. Would answer a lot of questions.
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Re: Vocabulary (100,696) (100,698) by Bill from the UK
(Tuesday 12 July 2022; 00:21)
Lol. But Stacey I see people being escorted down stairs all the time and say to myself "there goes another anxious person", do you not see this every day occurrence where you live? Lol. This is a new one I'll have to add to my collection of excuses for the future.

And Stacey I am jesting of course, I too have real anxiety (but can walk unaided) so know what it is like at times.
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Re: Vocabulary (100,685) (100,686) by Bill from the UK
(Sunday 10 July 2022; 11:36)
She ran quite easily in heels at the Madison Square Garden concert, so it's probably a combination of corset, inebriation and (flicks through excuse card index) a malfunctioning ear monitor.
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Re: MC's masters (100,656) (100,658) by Bill from the UK
(Tuesday 5 July 2022; 07:52)
I think she owns the Sony masters, hence why The Rarities and MC30 EPs were issued. She had trawled through her archive to find all that stuff.
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Re: Some trivia for you (100,651) (100,652) by Bill from the UK
(Monday 4 July 2022; 15:56)
Edit: Actually C&C Extended Mix was on the Australian CD single. Still one of the harder to find remixes though up until the EP was issued.
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Re: Some trivia for you (100,648) (100,651) by Bill from the UK
(Monday 4 July 2022; 15:25)
Cool, haha glad my geeky knowledge of MC releases is useful every so often. I have often thought about brain dumping everything onto a website for future generations haha.

I was going to say Underneath the Stars but I was convinced it saw a release in Australia as a double-A side with Forever. However, upon consultation with the site's discography, although it used the cover and had the track on the release, it wasn't a double-A release.

The Soul Convention Remix of AYNAF is on all the CD singles across multiple territories. In fact, the USA cassette has the rarer C&C Extended Mix, which was only on the US cassette, the UK/EU vinyl and some promo vinyl releases. I believe the MC30 EP was the first time it was made available digitally.
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Re: Some trivia for you (100,643) (100,646) by Bill from the UK
(Monday 4 July 2022; 11:56)
Okay I'll bite.

What MC single was released but a video was never made for the song?
Never Forget You - a standalone single in the US, and as a double A-side alongside Without You in the UK and some other territories.

What was MC's first promotional maxi CD for a song that was never released as single?
Not sure how we are defining a maxi-CD, but technically it would be one of the Merry Christmas releases. Miss You Most was sent to AC radio stations in remixed form as a promotional CD but never released, and Jesus Born On This Day to Christian radio with the same outcome. As we know AIWFCIY was sent to pop radio and Joy to the World and its remixes to the dance stations. O Holy Night would not be issued until 1996 from memory. Might have been 1995. If we're excluding those, then I think it might be something post-Sony, so I will go with The One.

What was MC's first double 12" vinyl?
Okay. So two versions of Emotions were released separately in Europe, one with Vanishing and Vision of Love, another with C&C mixes. If we mean one release comprising two 12" records, I believe it was a promo of Anytime You Need a Friend. Commercially, it would have been Fantasy.

Why was Caution such a commercial failure?
Um... best not I answer this.

What recently released compliation is already a rarity going for hundreds of dollars on Ebay?
The Rarities 4xLP

What single from Music Box had a special remix that could only be found on the cassette version?
From a worldwide perspective, none. All the remixes from that era were available across multiple formats, and none were exclusive to the cassette as far as I can remember.
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Re: GOATS and Lambs (100,628) (100,635) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 1 July 2022; 11:40)
The OG/day one/GOAT fans have been with Mariah since the beginning of her career. I very much doubt any of us long to see her back in the shackles of Tommy, in fact, many of us celebrated her liberation and cite the Butterfly album as her magnum opus. We've watched her grow and were there buying her physical records, clearing out schedules to watch her live on TV, importing CDs from other countries to hear bonus tracks and remixes, calling radio stations to play her songs, phoning MTV to request her videos. Being a fan back then took dedication and money, so to write us off is really insulting. We were there through the amazingly giddy heights of her career peaks, and during the Glitter era through to her glorious emancipation.

We care about her. We know what she is capable of (BET awards, ICON speech), and are concerned for her wellbeing when she is clearly not looking after herself (SHOF). We are not enablers like some here. We love her more than you'll ever know.

She is more than a meme to us.
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Re: BET performance (100,620) (100,624) by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 30 June 2022; 08:14)
Is comparing a speech with a speech willfully obtuse?
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Re: GOAT (100,611) (100,612) by Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 29 June 2022; 11:36)
Indeed. Us OG/GOAT fans know where it's at. I remembered this incredible speech Mariah gave at the BBMA Icon Awards. If she had done something like this for SHOF it would have been a beautiful and timeless moment. But, it is what it is.
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Re: BET performance (100,587) (100,596) by Bill from the UK
(Monday 27 June 2022; 23:50)
Agree, Mariah looked and sounded great.
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Re: Honey - date release (100,579) (100,580) by Bill from the UK
(Sunday 26 June 2022; 00:18)
Well, it was released on 25th August 1997 Europe, and in the US the following day (the US releases were always on a Tuesday so usually a day behind the European release date).
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Re: Honey - date release (100,574) (100,577) by Bill from the UK
(Saturday 25 June 2022; 19:12)
Honey was released to radio in July 1997, but the physical single releases followed a month later in August. This is on the Wikipedia page for the song, if you look at the "release history" section.
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Re: What's on your MC rotation these days? (100,564) (100,565) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 24 June 2022; 23:09)
I've been in a Daydream mood lately. Blasting the album and YouTubing all the performances and interviews from around that time and reliving the London date for the tour (which I attended in case I've never mentioned it before). I've found a whole new level of appreciation for Open Arms. Her rendition is just sublime. I got out my CD singles and have been playing them all (a few mixes not on the MC30 EPs appear on them). I love those beautiful One Sweet Day remixes. The gorgeous a capellas and Chucky's Remix are splendid, and the Drifting Remix of Underneath the Stars is next level.
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Re: Question (100,562) (100,563) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 24 June 2022; 09:48)
I think you're the only fan who's ever said that haha.
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Re: Question (100,560) (100,561) by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 23 June 2022; 22:07)
Thanks for the clarification my friend. So The One and Your Girl EPs are the normal ones that were released during the MC30 campaign it seems. As for IWTKWLI, this site's discography (invaluable resource) has a 14 track CD listed which is probably what is available on that website. If you're going to purchase digital music, let me recommend Qobuz. It's a streaming service but has a huge collection of hi-resolution or CD quality tracks to purchase, often with digital booklets. All Mariah's stuff is on there.
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Re: Question (100,558) (100,559) by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 23 June 2022; 20:03)
Hi Bobby A, what do you mean about the remixes? MC released an EP for The One, although it didn't include all the remixes (same can be said for all the MC30 EPs really, I wish she had consulted me first like). IWTKWLI has an existing EP on streaming (3 tracks) that was issued at the time of its original release in 2009. As for Yours, to the best of my knowledge no remixes exist, other than the fabled duet with Justin Timberlake version.
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Re: What if that's just Mariah? (100,551) (100,554) by Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 22 June 2022; 19:33)
I don't think anybody is advocating for a return of the acceptance speeches of old when she thanked God, Tommy, and walked off the stage. Post-Tommy Mariah is capable of some amazing speeches. None of the "Day Ones" as you call them would criticise the Billboard "for the fans" speech, that was brilliant. Probably the best she ever did. That award meant so much to her. Mariah is one of only 33 women to be inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame, and she has long fought to be recognised for her excellent songwriting (Crapfinity aside of course). We're not asking for a mumbled God and Tommy 1991 speech, but a well structured, rehearsed, planned out speech that would commemorate such a momentous occasion in her career. Not rambling about bad lighting, spitting on JD, and barely being able to string a sentence together and, by her own admission during the speech, going off on tangents.
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Great mash up (100,539) by Bill from the UK
(Tuesday 21 June 2022; 00:12)
Stumbled upon this on YouTube. I know we've all been a bit negative lately, so maybe this will cheer everybody up and highlight MC's talent (and that of the fans).
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Re: Songwriters speech (100,475) (100,479) by Bill from the UK
(Friday 17 June 2022; 19:35)
Regrettably I agree. I was looking so forward to this moment, given she has fought to be acknowledged as a songwriter since 1990. To get such a great accolade, probably the most important to her, and show up drunk and be completely incoherent and give some rambling nonsensical speech was such a disappointment. I was actually saddened. This is forever, and how she'll be remembered. She says underneath the diva attitude she's the gifted songwriter etc., but she was almost a parody of herself. Absolutely heart breaking.
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Re: Collaborations (100,451) (100,456) by Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 15 June 2022; 21:18)
I never said anything derogatory a out her post-90s output. In fact I agree, Caution is a great album. My issue is that she still happily pretends to be "The Voice", when she isn't. As you've said, her voice has changed. Nobody's voice in the industry has ever declined as rapidly as Mariah's has. Whether that was bad technique, bad choices, over singing, over working, or Michael Jackson's casket, we'll never know. Because she will never address it. Just shatter the illusion already and be honest.
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Re: Collaborations (100,438) (100,442) (100,448) by Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 15 June 2022; 10:32)
There's a big difference between a creative peak and a vocal peak. The problem is that Mariah is touted as, and doesn't ever correct anybody, when she is hailed as one of the greatest voices of a generation. She doesn't say "Actually that was only for 6 years of my 30 year career." So, either address the vocal decline honestly and stop lip syncing your way through your concerts, or take due care of your voice (meaning no alcohol or marijuana - no amount of humidifiers will correct the damage those two substances do to vocal chords) and provide your fanbase and the public with what they expect from you. You can't have it both ways.
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Re: The Roof with Brandy (100,430) (100,431) by Bill from the UK
(Saturday 11 June 2022; 18:12)
Hi Jamie, where did you see the news about Angels Advocate? Can you share please?
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Re: Just an opinion AIWFCIY (100,406) (100,407) by Bill from the UK
(Monday 6 June 2022; 16:00)
It also doesn't sound anything like Hero.
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