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Would you rather (104,267)
by Norman from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 20:12) | | |
Why not both?   Imagine? I'd love it.  |
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This is a reply to message 104,264 by
Tevin from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 18:50) | | |
| I'm quite curious to read everyone's opinion. For 2024, would you rather have Mariah releases a 10 to 12 tract Rarities 2 album, where half of the songs are never before heard songs, or would you rather see here release a brand new 10 to 12 song studio album? |
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Never sung in her life (104,164)
by Norman from USA
(Wednesday 22 November 2023; 21:39) | | |
I believe his point is that you guys regurtitate the same complaints every other week and think you're going to change something. It's been how long since Daydream?  And you all swear you're the only ones who like her because you tear her to shreds.
And, no, asking a singer to sing isn't a big ask, but expecting 1995 or 2000s vocals isn't going to happen no matter the critique.
Being at the Hollywood Bowl nights was such a great experience as a fan because it packed with people who were there to have fun and enjoy the show. And enjoy it we did. It was a blast to interact with people who had never seen in concert and enjoyed what was offered and how it was it offered. The energy when she did a medly of part of her catalog was at fever pitch. It was heartening. And as people left, you could hear everyone discussing her voice and how well she did and wishing more of this from her.
Having a discussion about the status of her current voice is one thing, and she's not above reproach, but enough with same critical drag and calling it love. No need to gaslight. We've read them for years and know abusive language when we read it.
It's okay to only like her 90s stuff and nothing past that. Admit it and move on - you'll all be happier. But no need to constantly bash every effing move and call it constructive when all it is, is tearing things down.
Oh, and before anyone comes out with pejorative "yass queen" rebuttal, no one is asking for you to be that. No one. You can have fun on the board without punching down. It's reductive.
Now, joy to the effing world or whatever. We mostly love everyone. |
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This is a reply to message 104,163 by
Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 22 November 2023; 08:12) | | |
| She's a singer Matty, so she should sing. It's not hard. |
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7 songs one billion streams (103,903)
by Norman from USA
(Saturday 28 October 2023; 23:40) | | |
Same. Daydream has so many faves and one of my top 3 Favorites of hers: Looking In. I recently read a few tweets where people expressed preferring songs like Thirsty, A No No, Caution, and the such over songs like Fantasy, ABMB, The Roof, and WBT.  I know it's all subjective, but those fans confuse me. Daydream is such a vibe and songs like UTS, IAF, and MA deserve so much more general recognition. |
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This is a reply to message 103,902 by
Edward from USA
(Saturday 28 October 2023; 19:22) | | |
| I hadn't really pay much attention, but Mariah really doesn't seem to care much about Daydream. She acts as if it doesn't exist. She very rarely even mentions it. Daydream is very special to me because it's the album that drew me back to her after listening to Open Arms. I think she got so invested in it that her losing all her Grammy nominations made her block it out. |
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Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) (103,821)
by Norman from USA
(Friday 20 October 2023; 02:21) | | |
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This is a reply to message 103,815 by
Zachariah from Croatia
(Thursday 19 October 2023; 22:53) | | |
| I lost that feeling in 2012 (tragic death in family). Since then, I am struggling. |
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Something's going on behind the scenes (103,511)
by Norman from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 07:57) | | |
| No offense, but are you new here? Andrew isn't a blind follower - quite the opposite. If anything, he's probably taking the piss. |
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This is a reply to message 103,506 by
Brandon from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53) | | |
| My comment was out of concern for Mariah and nothing else. As a dedicated lamb from the beginning, I can be concerned and question things as I see them. You choose to follow blindly and that's ok for you. I want the best for MC and if something doesn't look right, I will speak on it. With that being said, I hope everything is ok and that we get to see more of her healthy soon. |
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It's here (103,368)
by Norman from USA
(Friday 8 September 2023; 09:03) | | |
| It is, Edward. It's The Platters song. And phenomenal. I'm verklempt. |
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This is a reply to message 103,354 by
Edward from USA
(Friday 8 September 2023; 01:11) | | |
| Is it a cover? |
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Mariah Carey lands six new RIAA certifications (103,283)
by Norman from USA
(Saturday 2 September 2023; 03:46) | | |
| I'm surprised Merry Christmas hasn't either tbh. I need it to 4 diamonds at the very least. |
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This is a reply to message 103,281 by
Randy from USA
(Friday 1 September 2023; 23:35) | | |
| The debut is not certified Diamond yet? I believe it's sold enough to be certified by now and I really want her to match Whitney's three Diamond albums. |
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Be nice or leave (103,258)
by Norman from USA
(Wednesday 30 August 2023; 05:53) | | |
| I hear ya, Brad. I do. But that was from a bygone era. That hasn't been the case in several years. Still, things are pretty tame around here. Best to just scroll up. Cheers. |
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This is a reply to message 103,256 by
Brad from USA
(Tuesday 29 August 2023; 20:18) | | |
| Hi. I've been coming to this message board since 1998 and I am not trying to be "message board mom" or anything, but I do hope people will continue to be kind and supportive of one another on here. Rather than mean spirited or back biting. We don't really need that. As Mariah's sign always says: be nice or leave. |
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Discounted singles (103,233)
by Norman from USA
(Monday 21 August 2023; 03:14) | | |
| Andrew - stop this. Stop this at once. You're making too much sense and I will not tolerate agreeing with you for one more second. What will the neighbors think? For all that is holy, I insist you not utter another word of reason. It's as homophobic as Bill and Rob flirting with poor photogenic Jamie. I pray Jamie hath the fortitude to Make it Through the Rain and take even more flattering pictures. After all, we all deserve a Right to Dream (Randy's Theme). I bid you farewell now before Randy, Bill, Rob, and Jaime wonder why they're in it catching strays. And whilst I go, please remember that should you not heed my plea, I will hunt you down. I hope you know this one - I see you up there. |
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This is a reply to message 103,228 by
Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 20 August 2023; 09:32) | | |
I must be missing something here. "Discounted singles"?
My first question would be: "Discounted from what?" People can sell whatever they want at any price in a free market society. As on a bell curve, items are sold at the lowest price that will shift more units that at a higher price that will shift less if it would make more profit to do so? I don't recall in Woolworths of Tower Record or any other music store in the UK at the time there being a standard fixed price for a single.
And, in any case, my second question would be: "Who, in their right mind, buys a hardcopy single because of the price? "Way back when, back in the day, all songs were on the radio and music television channels before they hit the music stores. I had rarely gone to one not knowing what the new single releases sounded like - or, if I had, I would generally (elongated) know what the single was going to sound like dependent on the artist. It's not as if people bought My All not knowing what a Mariah Carey ballad would sound like. The argument is absurd.
My third question would be: "If it were so easy to get to No.1 on the Billboard Hot 100 by discounting a hardcopy single in the music stores - that is, if the high charting led to further purchases at full price, even: why didn't everyone do it?" There is something so dubious about this "Mariah only got No.1 because of discounted singles" argument that it smacks of disingenuousness somewhere.
Unless I am gravely mistaken. But the trouble with entertaining Mariah critics in this talking point is that they're arguing something that can never be won and so they can chip away at her with it. But it can be argued on a test of objective reasonability. Yes, I imagine some persons did throw it into their baskets because it was cheap, as some people are so inclined - but so inclined in *those* numbers? I would tell anyone suggesting that as a reality to not waste my time. |
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Bliss (103,072)
by Norman from USA
(Monday 24 July 2023; 18:42) | | |
| Right? It always gets to me. There's something about that beat. |
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This is a reply to message 103,069 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 24 July 2023; 14:40) | | |
| I love that song. So right for the occasion. |
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Bliss (103,067)
by Norman from USA
(Monday 24 July 2023; 06:32) | | |
| Randy, this is going to sound out of left field, but check out Paula Cole's "Feelin' Love". It just - yeah. Oh, and I always add Toni's You're Making Me High. |
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This is a reply to message 103,063 by
Randy from USA
(Sunday 23 July 2023; 04:26) | | |
| Don't laugh. Bliss is on my sex playlist. Along with Janet Jackson's Would You Mind. Rope Burn, Toni Braxton's Maybe, Trey Songz Neighbors Know My Name, Janet Jackson's Anytime Anyplace, Usher's Dot.com, Madonna's Justify My Love, Ciara's Promise, Twista's Rain Down on Me, Ashanti's Rescue, Beyoncé's Speechless. TLC's Red Light Special, George Michael's Father Figure. Bliss is the only MC song I can be horizontal with another with. Hey, ya'll promised not to laugh. Check out some of these songs if you don't know them. |
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Who is she kidding? (102,883)
by Norman from USA
(Wednesday 14 June 2023; 00:29) | | |
That's a complete load of bull. Was she late 90s Mariah or even mid-2000s? No. But she didn't come off as drunk nor as a drag act. She was present, engaging, fun, and she sounded good singing.
I was honestly expecting something along the lines of the Lovers and Friends show in Vegas but was pleasantly surprised how different it was in tone and the health of her voice.
On the majority of the remixes, the backing track did the heavy lifting for sure. There was no hiding that. She did sing a lot of the slower songs, however. And the My All/Mi Todo moment was chef's kiss. As was the Rainbow interlude.
I could've done without the numerous backstage moments that interrupted the flow of the show, but she always does that. |
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This is a reply to message 102,879 by
Nick G from Germany
(Tuesday 13 June 2023; 17:30) | | |
| Well I was there and what can I say? I quote my good friend Clarissa: Mariah was the best drag queen of the day. the movements, the attitudes and she sang like a drunk tourist in a karaoke bar. it was funny and sad at the same time. |
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Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,856)
by Norman from USA
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 19:20) | | |
Bill, Mariah's worldwide sales speak for themselves. She might not have been big in the UK, but the UK isn't even the 2nd biggest music market - that would be Japan, where Mariah's their biggest-selling foreign act. She's also big in Asia as a whole - you know, where the vast majority of the world's population is. Sure, it's not Europe, I'll grant you that. But perhaps she's fine without the oonts oonts aficionados? Who's to say?
Would I like something other than a yearly Christmas resurgence, and a couple a high notes on a TikTok and "I see you up there" from a performance? Of course. Need I drag her through the mud to fasten on a badge as a true and non-delusional fan ad nauseum? No.
And other making headlines for horrendous nips and tucks, what current accomplishments do you speak of when lauding your worldwide artist?
All the best. |
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This is a reply to message 102,854 by
Bill from the UK
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 15:00) | | |
| Lol, fair, but the other "so called" popular females (Madonna et al might object to that turn of phrase hah) have flexes equally as impressive in other areas. I think this is my point, there's a big wide world of other successes out there beyond US Billboard #1s and Christmas time. |
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Circles remix (102,805)
by Norman from USA
(Friday 2 June 2023; 09:41) | | |
| Wow. That's fire. |
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This is a reply to message 102,802 by
Jamie from UK
(Thursday 1 June 2023; 18:46) | | |
| Check it out it's great. Good summer vibes. |
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Best song intro (102,776)
by Norman from USA
(Saturday 27 May 2023; 14:37) | | |
| For me, it would have to be "You're So Cold". The only thing to match is the intro "Emotions" from Unplugged. They're a serve. That said, the Fantasy intro is wholly iconic. |
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This is a reply to message 102,774 by
Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 27 May 2023; 04:02) | | |
| The intro to Fantasy is MC's best song intro. |
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AI Mariah Carey songs (102,643)
by Norman from USA
(Saturday 29 April 2023; 01:26) | | |
| Well, at least Mariah's pen gig isn't in any danger with this model, because yikes. |
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This is a reply to message 102,635 by
Edward from USA
(Thursday 27 April 2023; 18:52) | | |
I asked AI to write song as Mariah Carey would write it, and here's what it came up with.
Verse 1:
I never thought that love could be so real,
But then you walked into my life, and now I feel,
A passion deep inside my soul,
A flame that burns beyond control.
Chorus:
Cause you're the one that I need,
You're the air that I breathe,
And I can't imagine living without you,
Cause you're my forever love,
And I thank the stars above,
For bringing me to you, my love.
Verse 2:
With every breath I take, I feel your love,
It's like a melody, that's sung from up above,
And every time I look into your eyes,
I'm lost in a world, where love never dies.
Chorus:
Cause you're the one that I need,
You're the air that I breathe,
And I can't imagine living without you,
Cause you're my forever love,
And I thank the stars above,
For bringing me to you, my love.
Bridge:
And in this world, that's so full of pain,
You are the sunshine, that breaks through the rain,
And I'll never let you go, my heart's in your hands,
Cause baby, you're the one that I need, the only one that understands.
Chorus:
Cause you're the one that I need,
You're the air that I breathe,
And I can't imagine living without you,
Cause you're my forever love,
And I thank the stars above,
For bringing me to you, my love.
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Cause baby, you're my forever love,
And I'll thank the stars above,
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New Mariah titles (one word) (102,545)
by Norman from USA
(Thursday 13 April 2023; 06:14) | | |
| Reign, dahling. Reign. |
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This is a reply to message 102,536 by
Randy from USA
(Wednesday 12 April 2023; 01:00) | | |
So Bill, I wasn't feeling your list. So I asked AI for ten titles that were one word in keeping in line with Emotions, Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter. I still didn't like the list lol but I think Harmony is the best no? And she has already touched on a lot of these lol.
Phoenix
Radiance
Serendipity
Euphoria
Enchantment
Harmony
Whimsy
Mirage
Infinity
Nostalgia
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One cover to consider (102,526)
by Norman from USA
(Tuesday 11 April 2023; 07:22) | | |
| I can see her saying "Hasn't that been done before? I think that should be her thing." Only because Madge did it ages ago. |
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This is a reply to message 102,525 by
Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 11 April 2023; 00:48) | | |
| MC has been really successful with covering famous hit songs. She has to cover a song that is gonna grab the world's attention. So, this one song came to my mind that would fit MC's current voice perfectly. The song is Rolls Royce's [sic] Love Don't Live Here Anymore. MC could put her own spin on it with a huge choir moment from Tye Tribbet and G.A. |
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Edward (102,486)
by Norman from USA
(Thursday 6 April 2023; 08:57) | | |
| Happy belated Birthday, Edward |
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This is a reply to message 102,475 by
Jamie from UK
(Wednesday 5 April 2023; 22:17) | | |
| Happy Birthday Edward. |
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Die For You (102,300)
by Norman from USA
(Monday 6 March 2023; 22:50) | | |
With this recent remix by The Weeknd feat Ariana debuting at #1 this, it got me thinking about a past single that never really got a shot but should have been a single (not necessarily talking about Migrate). Which song do you think would be a good idea to release as a remix, and with whom? I think the feature would really have to stand out for the song to at least be top 10. There's obviously a lot of material to choose from, but I can't say I have one that stands out - maybe Obsessed? Melt Away? #Beautiful? What do you guys think?
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Did ya'll know? (102,273)
by Norman from USA
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 19:56) | | |
No, but it certainly didn't age well, did it?  |
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This is a reply to message 102,272 by
Randy from USA
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13) | | |
| I was putzing around on the internet and discovered that Vanilla Ice won the 1991 Favorite New Artist American Music Award over Mariah Carey. |
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"It's a Wrap" on the Hot 100 (102,253)
by Norman from USA
(Thursday 23 February 2023; 11:02) | | |
| It did debut on r&b digital tracks at #22 - something like that. I think that's sales, however. I don't know how it's doing on streaming outside of Spotify. |
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This is a reply to message 102,251 by
MC85 from Canada
(Thursday 23 February 2023; 03:44) | | |
| Does anyone know why it hasn't chatted yet? It seems to be very popular and the Spotify numbers are good. Even the young'uns where I work are walking around singing it or recognize it when I'm singing it lol. |
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Mr. Morton (102,186)
by Norman from USA
(Monday 6 February 2023; 04:50) | | |
| Okay, I'm just going to say it: I'm a salty beep who will die mad at the Grammy's. I know this topic has been discussed as nauseum, but there's just no way it can only be 5 wins for her. I don't believe she deserves all the awards, but she should certainly be lauded far more than she has been. Her pen game, production, vocal arrangements, and vocals were superb in her prime. I'm mad and saddened that her artistry has been dismissed and overlooked for so long. And, no - I'm not congratulating beepin nobody (quadruple italic and underlined exclamation marks.) |
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Never Forget You (102,079)
by Norman from USA
(Monday 16 January 2023; 03:57) | | |
| It would be amazing if she did/could. I sincerely doubt she could, however. Maybe a snippet like she did with MYM? |
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This is a reply to message 102,075 by
Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 15 January 2023; 16:35) | | |
| Just wondering about the Lambs thought if MC could sing NFY in the same key today from beginning to end. I think that she could in a relaxed setting in front Lambs. |
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Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,007)
by Norman from USA
(Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32) | | |
After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability?
Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right?
Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking.
Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order):
Mariah (obviously)
Whitney
Celine
Etta James
Aretha
Ella
Freddie Mercury
Donny Hathaway
Luther
Linda Ronstadt
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bono
Rocio Durcal
Prince
Barb[a]ra Streisand
George Michael
Al Green
Axl Rose
Tina Turner
Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists.
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This is a reply to message 101,999 by
Bill from the UK
(Monday 2 January 2023; 14:46) | | |
| Mariah ranks #5 in the list. Aretha first, Whitney second. Celine? Nowhere to be found. |
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