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Name: Norman
Country: USA
I've been a fan of Mariah's since I first heard Love Takes Time (I don't know how I initially missed Vision of Love), and I haven't looked back since.
Her music has been there for me in my darkest hours to help lift out of the depths of whatever I was going through at the time. She's my all time favorite female singer, even though I love many others.

It's funny to think of her music as a "friend", but it's always been there for me. I love her talent.

" As we drifted to another place and time
And the feeling was so heady and sublime
As I lost my heart to you
There in the dark
Underneath the stars"
Would you rather (104,267) by Norman from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 20:12)
Why not both? Imagine? I'd love it.
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This is a reply to message 104,264 by Tevin from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 18:50)
Never sung in her life (104,164) by Norman from USA
(Wednesday 22 November 2023; 21:39)
I believe his point is that you guys regurtitate the same complaints every other week and think you're going to change something. It's been how long since Daydream? And you all swear you're the only ones who like her because you tear her to shreds.

And, no, asking a singer to sing isn't a big ask, but expecting 1995 or 2000s vocals isn't going to happen no matter the critique.

Being at the Hollywood Bowl nights was such a great experience as a fan because it packed with people who were there to have fun and enjoy the show. And enjoy it we did. It was a blast to interact with people who had never seen in concert and enjoyed what was offered and how it was it offered. The energy when she did a medly of part of her catalog was at fever pitch. It was heartening. And as people left, you could hear everyone discussing her voice and how well she did and wishing more of this from her.

Having a discussion about the status of her current voice is one thing, and she's not above reproach, but enough with same critical drag and calling it love. No need to gaslight. We've read them for years and know abusive language when we read it.

It's okay to only like her 90s stuff and nothing past that. Admit it and move on - you'll all be happier. But no need to constantly bash every effing move and call it constructive when all it is, is tearing things down.

Oh, and before anyone comes out with pejorative "yass queen" rebuttal, no one is asking for you to be that. No one. You can have fun on the board without punching down. It's reductive.

Now, joy to the effing world or whatever. We mostly love everyone.
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This is a reply to message 104,163 by Bill from the UK
(Wednesday 22 November 2023; 08:12)
7 songs one billion streams (103,903) by Norman from USA
(Saturday 28 October 2023; 23:40)
Same. Daydream has so many faves and one of my top 3 Favorites of hers: Looking In. I recently read a few tweets where people expressed preferring songs like Thirsty, A No No, Caution, and the such over songs like Fantasy, ABMB, The Roof, and WBT. I know it's all subjective, but those fans confuse me. Daydream is such a vibe and songs like UTS, IAF, and MA deserve so much more general recognition.
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This is a reply to message 103,902 by Edward from USA
(Saturday 28 October 2023; 19:22)
Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) (103,821) by Norman from USA
(Friday 20 October 2023; 02:21)
Sorry, Zach.
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This is a reply to message 103,815 by Zachariah from Croatia
(Thursday 19 October 2023; 22:53)
Something's going on behind the scenes (103,511) by Norman from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 07:57)
No offense, but are you new here? Andrew isn't a blind follower - quite the opposite. If anything, he's probably taking the piss.
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This is a reply to message 103,506 by Brandon from USA
(Saturday 16 September 2023; 02:53)
It's here (103,368) by Norman from USA
(Friday 8 September 2023; 09:03)
It is, Edward. It's The Platters song. And phenomenal. I'm verklempt.
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This is a reply to message 103,354 by Edward from USA
(Friday 8 September 2023; 01:11)
Mariah Carey lands six new RIAA certifications (103,283) by Norman from USA
(Saturday 2 September 2023; 03:46)
I'm surprised Merry Christmas hasn't either tbh. I need it to 4 diamonds at the very least.
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This is a reply to message 103,281 by Randy from USA
(Friday 1 September 2023; 23:35)
Be nice or leave (103,258) by Norman from USA
(Wednesday 30 August 2023; 05:53)
I hear ya, Brad. I do. But that was from a bygone era. That hasn't been the case in several years. Still, things are pretty tame around here. Best to just scroll up. Cheers.
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This is a reply to message 103,256 by Brad from USA
(Tuesday 29 August 2023; 20:18)
Discounted singles (103,233) by Norman from USA
(Monday 21 August 2023; 03:14)
Andrew - stop this. Stop this at once. You're making too much sense and I will not tolerate agreeing with you for one more second. What will the neighbors think? For all that is holy, I insist you not utter another word of reason. It's as homophobic as Bill and Rob flirting with poor photogenic Jamie. I pray Jamie hath the fortitude to Make it Through the Rain and take even more flattering pictures. After all, we all deserve a Right to Dream (Randy's Theme). I bid you farewell now before Randy, Bill, Rob, and Jaime wonder why they're in it catching strays. And whilst I go, please remember that should you not heed my plea, I will hunt you down. I hope you know this one - I see you up there.
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This is a reply to message 103,228 by Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 20 August 2023; 09:32)
Bliss (103,072) by Norman from USA
(Monday 24 July 2023; 18:42)
Right? It always gets to me. There's something about that beat.
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This is a reply to message 103,069 by Edward from USA
(Monday 24 July 2023; 14:40)
Bliss (103,067) by Norman from USA
(Monday 24 July 2023; 06:32)
Randy, this is going to sound out of left field, but check out Paula Cole's "Feelin' Love". It just - yeah. Oh, and I always add Toni's You're Making Me High.
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This is a reply to message 103,063 by Randy from USA
(Sunday 23 July 2023; 04:26)
Who is she kidding? (102,883) by Norman from USA
(Wednesday 14 June 2023; 00:29)
That's a complete load of bull. Was she late 90s Mariah or even mid-2000s? No. But she didn't come off as drunk nor as a drag act. She was present, engaging, fun, and she sounded good singing.

I was honestly expecting something along the lines of the Lovers and Friends show in Vegas but was pleasantly surprised how different it was in tone and the health of her voice.

On the majority of the remixes, the backing track did the heavy lifting for sure. There was no hiding that. She did sing a lot of the slower songs, however. And the My All/Mi Todo moment was chef's kiss. As was the Rainbow interlude.

I could've done without the numerous backstage moments that interrupted the flow of the show, but she always does that.
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This is a reply to message 102,879 by Nick G from Germany
(Tuesday 13 June 2023; 17:30)
Forbes richest women, no Mariah (102,856) by Norman from USA
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 19:20)
Bill, Mariah's worldwide sales speak for themselves. She might not have been big in the UK, but the UK isn't even the 2nd biggest music market - that would be Japan, where Mariah's their biggest-selling foreign act. She's also big in Asia as a whole - you know, where the vast majority of the world's population is. Sure, it's not Europe, I'll grant you that. But perhaps she's fine without the oonts oonts aficionados? Who's to say?

Would I like something other than a yearly Christmas resurgence, and a couple a high notes on a TikTok and "I see you up there" from a performance? Of course. Need I drag her through the mud to fasten on a badge as a true and non-delusional fan ad nauseum? No.

And other making headlines for horrendous nips and tucks, what current accomplishments do you speak of when lauding your worldwide artist?

All the best.
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This is a reply to message 102,854 by Bill from the UK
(Thursday 8 June 2023; 15:00)
Circles remix (102,805) by Norman from USA
(Friday 2 June 2023; 09:41)
Wow. That's fire.
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This is a reply to message 102,802 by Jamie from UK
(Thursday 1 June 2023; 18:46)
Best song intro (102,776) by Norman from USA
(Saturday 27 May 2023; 14:37)
For me, it would have to be "You're So Cold". The only thing to match is the intro "Emotions" from Unplugged. They're a serve. That said, the Fantasy intro is wholly iconic.
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This is a reply to message 102,774 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 27 May 2023; 04:02)
AI Mariah Carey songs (102,643) by Norman from USA
(Saturday 29 April 2023; 01:26)
Well, at least Mariah's pen gig isn't in any danger with this model, because yikes.
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This is a reply to message 102,635 by Edward from USA
(Thursday 27 April 2023; 18:52)
New Mariah titles (one word) (102,545) by Norman from USA
(Thursday 13 April 2023; 06:14)
Reign, dahling. Reign.
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This is a reply to message 102,536 by Randy from USA
(Wednesday 12 April 2023; 01:00)
One cover to consider (102,526) by Norman from USA
(Tuesday 11 April 2023; 07:22)
I can see her saying "Hasn't that been done before? I think that should be her thing." Only because Madge did it ages ago.
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This is a reply to message 102,525 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 11 April 2023; 00:48)
Edward (102,486) by Norman from USA
(Thursday 6 April 2023; 08:57)
Happy belated Birthday, Edward
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This is a reply to message 102,475 by Jamie from UK
(Wednesday 5 April 2023; 22:17)
Die For You (102,300) by Norman from USA
(Monday 6 March 2023; 22:50)
With this recent remix by The Weeknd feat Ariana debuting at #1 this, it got me thinking about a past single that never really got a shot but should have been a single (not necessarily talking about Migrate). Which song do you think would be a good idea to release as a remix, and with whom? I think the feature would really have to stand out for the song to at least be top 10. There's obviously a lot of material to choose from, but I can't say I have one that stands out - maybe Obsessed? Melt Away? #Beautiful? What do you guys think?
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Did ya'll know? (102,273) by Norman from USA
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 19:56)
No, but it certainly didn't age well, did it?
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This is a reply to message 102,272 by Randy from USA
(Thursday 2 March 2023; 16:13)
"It's a Wrap" on the Hot 100 (102,253) by Norman from USA
(Thursday 23 February 2023; 11:02)
It did debut on r&b digital tracks at #22 - something like that. I think that's sales, however. I don't know how it's doing on streaming outside of Spotify.
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This is a reply to message 102,251 by MC85 from Canada
(Thursday 23 February 2023; 03:44)
Mr. Morton (102,186) by Norman from USA
(Monday 6 February 2023; 04:50)
Okay, I'm just going to say it: I'm a salty beep who will die mad at the Grammy's. I know this topic has been discussed as nauseum, but there's just no way it can only be 5 wins for her. I don't believe she deserves all the awards, but she should certainly be lauded far more than she has been. Her pen game, production, vocal arrangements, and vocals were superb in her prime. I'm mad and saddened that her artistry has been dismissed and overlooked for so long. And, no - I'm not congratulating beepin nobody (quadruple italic and underlined exclamation marks.)
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Never Forget You (102,079) by Norman from USA
(Monday 16 January 2023; 03:57)
It would be amazing if she did/could. I sincerely doubt she could, however. Maybe a snippet like she did with MYM?
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This is a reply to message 102,075 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 15 January 2023; 16:35)
Rolling Stone's 200 Greatest Singers (102,007) by Norman from USA
(Tuesday 3 January 2023; 03:32)
After reading about this list and everyone being up in arms about several choices, I decided to Google other lists to see how they differ. I found that they all seem to be off on their picks. How can you make a list of the greatest singers/vocalists, and then take their popularity into account in their ranking order? I mean, how in the world does that pertain to vocal ability?

Not to knock singers/performers with limited vocal range or ability (I can think of several in that department that punch above their weight when delivering an emotional and touching song), but it seems only logical to rank them on their ability, right?

Any time I see a list with Paul McCartney, Elvis, or John Lennon in the top 5/10, I know I can't take them seriously. I know a lot of it is subjective because music as a whole is that way, but at have the right players on the board when you're picking.

Who would you guys pick to be in the top 20 (I think it gives a lot more wiggle room for to include people who you can move around if necessary)? Here are my players (in no particular order):

Mariah (obviously)
Whitney
Celine
Etta James
Aretha
Ella
Freddie Mercury
Donny Hathaway
Luther
Linda Ronstadt
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bono
Rocio Durcal
Prince
Barb[a]ra Streisand
George Michael
Al Green
Axl Rose
Tina Turner

Picking these was pretty difficult because it's still biased toward certain genres (and heavily American), but there's no denying they can sing. There are still several other picks I could swap for one another (I wanted to put Ray Charles, James Brown, Robert Plant, Patti Labelle, Billy Ocean, Peabo Bryson, Donna Summer, Jeffrey Osborne, Annie Lennox, Kenny Rogers, and countless others), but at least they're all talented singers/vocalists.

What say you?
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This is a reply to message 101,999 by Bill from the UK
(Monday 2 January 2023; 14:46)
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