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About Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway:
Fan since 1997
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TEOM concerts (106,248)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I think this generation has forgotten how brilliant Mariah was in her prime in the 90's, and the general public isn't that critical anymore against Mariah because she is not of a big interest in the general cultural canon, these days, except around Christmas. I think the people who genuinely gets upset because of all the lip synching, is the hardcore fans who have followed her for years. I am upset too, but still get very exited every time she actually does something live.
I'm still a fan and still very much interested in everything Mariah does, it gives me mostly joy to be lamb, as I guess is the case for most of the people on this board.
(Monday 22 April 2024; 01:13)
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TEOM concerts (106,239)
by Xavier mariohmix from Spain
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Ok. So if you see this video containing the whole concert from that perspective, you would think that there could be some lipping, but the rest would be mainly live. But if you see all the Mariah videos from the first concert uploaded 7/8 days ago on this channel, you truly can see the real thing happening, that is, she's lipping everything except for 5 specific moments throughout the entire concert. The recordings are so zoomed-in that it is so evident. Besides, sometimes she skips phrases, she starts miming two seconds later or she's just too lazy to pretend to be making an effort on the belting parts. As I said before, at least, we have new high-quality recordings of most of the songs.
To be honest, I became aware of the lipping thing (you know, the lipped parts of some songs) back in 2008. At that moment and after analyzing so many performances, I realized that she had been doing it from 1997 (the belted section of Honey at Top of the Pops, for example). It was a total and complete letdown, and I took my time to process it.
I'm a huge fan and I'll always be. I'll keep following her forever. For sure, she uses lipping for whatever reasons, some of them have been explained or theorized here and I can agree with them, but it is a fact. And right now it has come to a point where almost the whole thing is. Anyway, we love her.
(Sunday 21 April 2024; 01:39)
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Funko Pop (106,148)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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What do you guys think of the new Emancipation of Mimi Funko Pop figure? I have the first Christmas one and the Fantasy one, I'm not sure about this new one. Think I'll wait for another version, I'm sure there will be more.
(Saturday 13 April 2024; 12:00)
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Las Vegas (106,147)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I can't decide whether Mariah is actually singing some parts or the vocals are all pre recorded. In Without You, I think she sings to a back track first, but sings live some parts of the chorus, it's hard to tell, she has gotten much better at lip synching. She is still very stiff, but she moves a bit more freely than in the last few months. The stage was really nice though.
(Saturday 13 April 2024; 11:38)
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Academy recognising Glitter (106,084)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I actually think the reason why Mariah sounds so restricted on Charmbracelet had everything to do with Glitter and her breakdown. I think she felt the world really was tired of everything Mariah, especially her voice, many people back then complained that she was just shouting, not that this had anything to do with reality. Mariah was overexposed after the 90's, much like the risk Taylor Swift is taking now.
Charmbracelet shows a Mariah that is scared to annoy or pushing more people away, almost to the point of self extinction. She did exactly what people wanted her to, become a shadow of her self, almost a different artist singing wise. Well, we all know how that turned out, it's her most forgotten and least interesting album, only positive is that it felt really personal. I'm glad she came back in 2005 wanting nothing else than to be herself, showcasing every part of her voice. If you can sing like Mariah Carey, why would you ever try to disguise that?
(Monday 1 April 2024; 17:43)
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Academy recognising Glitter (106,080)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Mimi, your post made me listen to Glitter in its entirety today. Glitter is in MC's top 5 of vocally amazing work of art. So, what happened to her voice that she couldn't produced those same type of vocals on Charmbraclet? I don't think it had anything to do with her breakdown. Was it the lazy production on Charmbraclet? Was it the choice of producers who really didn't know how to give MC the best chords and arrangements?
(Monday 1 April 2024; 00:06)
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Is Mariah Carey popular? (106,075)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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The score for fame and popularity is based on surveys, they ask a random selection of people every quarter, so it's not a ranking based on opinion.
(Sunday 31 March 2024; 13:00)
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Is Mariah Carey popular? (106,071)
by Libra Lamb from USA
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Mariah Carey was working hard to get her debut album out when Taylor Swift was in infant diapers, I'd say she's got a lot more years on her and more people know her impressive body of work than Taylor Swift's. I'm not denying the star power of Taylor at all, I think she's phenomenal even though I personally don't care for her music. And also I don't know how they measured the popularity contest. I'm just saying that I bet the article is right to place MC ahead of her. We love everybody.
(Saturday 30 March 2024; 21:16)
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Music has become worse (106,061)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Read this article in the Guardian, it's very interesting
(Friday 29 March 2024; 20:15)
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Is Mariah Carey popular? (106,060)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I don't know if any of you have visited this site, and it's only applicable for the US, but contrary to what some people might believe, Mariah Carey is very famous, and quite popular.
(Friday 29 March 2024; 19:14)
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It's been a long time coming (105,511)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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When was the last time Mariah was on top worldwide and it wasn't a Christmas song? Even here in Norway, Mariah is now #3 on top songs on iTunes. I had completely forgotten the feeling I experience when Mariah is represented on the charts. It's too early to hope for Mariah's name to be on offical charts around the world, but what a great feeling that would be. Nevertheless, congrats Mariah and Ariana.
(Saturday 17 February 2024; 17:39)
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Yes, and? #1 (105,503)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Mariah and Ariana sit comfortably on top of the iTunes top 100 world chart.
(Saturday 17 February 2024; 10:33)
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Yes, and? (105,464)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I actually really like it, the intro is pure old school Mariah 90's remixes, plesently surprised. But, Mariah's voice sounds a bit strange, I didn't recognize her when she started to sing, I have never heard her voice sound like it does on this remix, it sounds manufactored to be honest.
(Friday 16 February 2024; 07:35)
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Conflicted (105,424)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I should and thought I would be excited about the news of a Mariah and Ariana collaboration, but my feelings are a bit conflicted really. I actually don't think Mariah and Ariana like each other that much, and I feel Mariah only does this to get noticed more by a younger crowd, and mayby hope that it would be a hit like Big Energy (Remix). And all of those things are positive, but my gut feeling is that this remix will pass away fast. I might be wrong.
(Thursday 15 February 2024; 00:09)
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Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,395)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Thank you. How many are inducted out of the nominees? I voted again for Mariah today, she's in the top 7.
(Tuesday 13 February 2024; 11:11)
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Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,382)
by Pedro from Brazil
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After you vote, click on "Fans Ballot Leaders" and it shows the rank. We have to vote every day.
(Monday 12 February 2024; 15:04)
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Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,380)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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How do you know she's way behind?
(Monday 12 February 2024; 12:35)
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Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,375)
by Pedro from Brazil
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Don't forget to vote every day for Mariah. She's way behind. Click on the link vote.rockhall.com.
(Monday 12 February 2024; 00:40)
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A last question (104,728)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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A last question before I head out to this years celebration of what was and what is to come.
I just realized, almost every human being on earth know who Mariah is. In all my encounters with other people, I have never met a person who doesn't know who Mariah is. A lot of frustration on this board and from me personally, is that Mariah's music isn't remembered that much compared to Whitney, Madonna or Celine. Ask a young person today to name another song by Mariah that isn't AIWFCIY, and they will have a hard problem to name one, maybe they know Hero.
But Mariah's level of fame, is bigger than her music. Everybody knows who she is, her name is instantly recognizable. So, isn't it better to be happy about Mariah's impression on culture, that everybody knows her name, than be dpressed that many can't name a single song? Everybody knows who Mozart was, but be honest, name five pieces of his, and try to recollect any of his tunes in your head. I can, but can the general public?
In one hundred years from now, maybe Mariah's name will still be in the cultural canon, even though most people don't know a single tune of hers. I would call that a big personal success irregardless.
(Sunday 31 December 2023; 18:54)
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Clarity (104,647)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I am concerned too, Andrew. My worst nightmare is that Mariah's whole catalogue will go down the drain because of this Christmas song, alone. But remember, we are all living in our own time, Mariah might be content with that song being her only legacy per now.
But, as with you, it devastates me that most people won't know her other songs.
I guess we as fans, just need to micro dose people with other stuff, like I have done the last 25 years. There is not a single soul I have met in my life that won't think of me whenever a Mariah song is played.
I wish you all a Merry Christmas, thank you for this community, going to listen to "One Child" now, love you.
(Monday 25 December 2023; 02:46)
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Clarity (104,641)
by Andrew from the UK
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Surely Music Box, Daydream and the Emancipation of Mimi are the albums most loved by the public: not only have they sold the most, but they contain the songs that everyone knows her for.
I am glad Mariah has popular annual material to sell but Christmas feels ever increasingly like a novelty. All the benefits of having such material makes real the threat of being known only for being a novelty act and having the rest of a (quite formidable) catalogue fall by the wayside. It's unnerving for someone who is a long time, avid fan.
It's both uniquely great and concerning.
(Sunday 24 December 2023; 18:12)
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Good voice (104,372)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I can honestly say I had lost all faith in that Mariah would work on her voice and sound good again, but she has impressed me once more. How pleasant and nice it is to hear her live voice again, it's so satisfying and soothing, just listen to this.
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:28)
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View from here (104,183)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I agree on the subject of her awkward stiffness, I just can't figure out what seems to be wrong.
Besides that, what I take from the concerts is that her voice is back to a level where it's actually pleasant to listen to her sing again, that makes me happy.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 17:36)
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View from here (104,177)
by MC1989 from Spain
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Maybe the extreme stiffness is due to a recent lipposuction and a recent face lift? I don't know. Maybe she's recovering from recent surgeries. Because even though since 2010 her stage performances became very low energy in terms of movements and dancing, she was never this stiff. Though I'm enjoying some iconic moments from these Christmas shows, I share your thoughts about her recent awkward stiffness and lack of face expresion. I also feel good about her success with these shows, from the videos I've seen, people are enjoying them a lot and she's singing in front of big audiences again.
(Thursday 23 November 2023; 12:04)
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Performance (104,139)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Well, I also think it was live, but besides from the opening chorus, she is mostly singing to the original recording as a back track, but sometimes her current voice shines through, and it's not bad at all. Her voice in the opening chorus is actually better than the lst 5-10 years. She has listened to some criticism and feedback it seems, maybe even come to this board for advice. She is doing much of what many people here have requested, singing the songs differently with her curent voice, keeping to her middle to low register and quit masking her voice decline with pre-recorded notes nobody believes she can hit anymore.
Mariah has lost weight, done a face sugery, maybe another boob job, they look a bitt different, she looks better than in years. But at the same time I am dissapointed that she has gone to these extremes, I really hope she will not eventually become another Madonna case. I am still concerned about her mental well being, because she is lethargic and doesn't seem happy. It might be medication, I read another place she has used osempic to lose weight, and more than 10% of users of that medication gets depression and it's not unusual to get suicidal. But that is of course just speculation.
Anyways, Mariah is working hard on getting her reputation back as a singer and a perfomer you can rely on, I think she is doing a pretty good job. Keep up the good work, Mariah, and your happiness will follow.
(Monday 20 November 2023; 18:02)
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Performance (104,132)
by Tameka walker from United states
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I watched Mariah's performance and I really enjoyed it. She can still sing it's not like when she came out in the nineties but she can still sing her face off. She was even trying to do something a little bit different to let the audience know that hey I can still sing and I am singing live not all was live but most of it was. I would like to know what you guys think. Do you think she was singing live or was she lipping it? Well I love Mariah I have loved her since day one. She is incomparable. Mariah Carey often duplicated never imitated. You guys also have to remember that all these young girls like Christina (42), Britney (41), Jessica (43), Beyoncé (42) and so forth studied Mariah so they can be like her. I often come on this board but hardly ever post anything but when she does a good job I would like to leave a positive message to up lift her. Let her know that her die hard fans like me are with her. Everyone has a right to feel how they want and say what they want this is a free country. I have always been one of her biggest fans because I have always wanted to sing and I love singers with big voices. I love you Mariah you are such an inspiration.
(Monday 20 November 2023; 06:06)
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We need to be kind to Mariah, ok? (104,087)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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There [is] something very wrong with Mariah as of late. Her interviews have been low energy, not interesting at all, she seems apathetic, has no inspiration, she seems dead inside, her eyes have now sparkles. I have seen some of the footage from her first concert, I can't even tell if she is singing or not, no facial expressions, no nothing.
People of this board, we have sometimes wondered if Mariah secretly visits this board, and if that is the case, no wonder she is in such a bad place right now. I feel bad for the harsh things I might have said in the past, all though my post are mostly positive.
Our girl is not in a good place mentaly right now. I am [sincerely] concerned about her wellbeing. Let's do her a favour and be kind and understanding, she deserves that from the Lambily, if she can't get any praise here, where will she get it?
Please guys, let's pause the sh*t posting and just send her our blessings and gratitude for a while, Mariah is hurting, it's obvious.
I hope Mariah gets the rest and relaxation between shows that she needs. If continuing a stellar career has taken such a toll, I would quit, take a long hiatus, it's not worth it Mariah. Get better Mariah, we love you, don't you ever forget.
My last post was a bit [dramatic], but still true. Just wanted to ad, Mariah's voice is in better shape than in years, sounds 2016'ish, and it seems like she has taken the lambily's advice and started to sing the songs in her lower register. I think it's actually mostly live, she rarely tries to hit high notes, and the ones she "hits" are mostly lipped. It was very refreshing to hear her just sing the songs with the voice that she got, the concert just feels so much more real and authentic. Continue like this, Mariah, I'd much rather listen to a whole concert with you singing in the middle to lower register, than faking the upper register and barely sing a note.
But what is going on with Mariah besides that it's clear she has rested her voice, I don't know. Her recent face lift is obvious, her face doesn't move anymore, it has turned completely stiff, not a motion in sight, not even her eyebrows move when she sings, and that used to be her signature face movements. Maybe she's on extremely strong pain killers after all the surgeries that makes her heavily sedated, I have never seen her energy this low.
(Friday 17 November 2023; 02:39)
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Fantasy (104,003)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I think it suits the staus quo of Mariah's career that the song that might stand out as her legacy besides AIWFCIY is Fantasy, and how telling that is for what Mariah has become.
If I try to understand what is going on in Mariah World, is that she is now just a fantasy, and that is what she is selling us with new releases, concerts and "live" performances from her home. She has had a splendid career, nobody can take away her success, especially during the 90's, she will for ever be mentioned when people talk about the best singers in history. Nobody will deny that she had one of the biggest voices the world has gotten to know.
I don't think the general public really knows about the condition of Mariah's voice at the moment, and I don't think they care. The Lambily knows, and we are frustrated. But I think if we still want to enjoy the rest of her career, and I don't think she will retire anytime soon, we have to embrace the idea that she is now a fantasy, a relic of what once was. At her show it is Mariah who is singing, but the voice might be from years ago, and between all the pre-reccorded tracks, she somtimes sings a word or a sentence with her current voice. We just have to believe in her like a child believes in Santa Clause. Mariah is now both real and not real at the same time.
Mariah has become a fantasy you can chose to believe, and even if you don't believe, you can still enjoy the charade, because it induces positive feelings if you just go with the flow.
It's almost Christmas season, and I'm going to enjoy Mariah, her old music, new music, YouTube videos from her Christmas shows, really get into the Christmas and Mariah spirit, and just pretend that it's real, much like Christmas itself.
(Thursday 9 November 2023; 20:59)
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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,648)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Exactly, Andy.
(Tuesday 3 October 2023; 16:11)
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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,647)
by Andrew from the UK
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In other words: she has taken something used in a meme to mock her and, in one fell swoop, owns it. Cannot even believe the self-depricating humour she has shown is the source of criticism. It's like moaning about her having lost weight: give her credit where it's due.
(Tuesday 3 October 2023; 15:50)
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Mariah isn't defrosting, she has never been frozen (103,646)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Mariah isn't defrosting, and that Mariah her self sees the irony in this is the reason she can say that about herself. I regulary check how many monthly listeners the biggest artists from the 80's and 90's have on Spotify. I know Spotify is not the best streaming service to use to asess how popular an artist is, cause there are large differences between countries in how widespread the service is being used, mostly Scandinavian, European and Western countries use it. But at the moment Mariah has almost 25 million monthly listeners, 176th place in the world. For an artist who started in 1990, that is not a bad number.
Just a few months ago, Madonna had almost as many listeners, but she has seen a ressurgance in listeners the last few months, and now is up to almost 40 million monthly listeners. But Mariah is way ahead of Celine Dion, Kylie Minogue (even though she has a new album out), Cher, David Bowie, Prince, George Michael and many of the greats from the last decades. She is ahead of Whitney Houston as well. The current artists Mariah can't compeet with, but my point is, Mariah isn't defrosting before Christmas, that is just how she is talked about in our culture right now, how people on social media use humor, make memes, cause she is like this wave, a tsunami, you can't escape between 1st of November and 31st of December, everyone knows it, and everyone is inn with the joke.
Truth is, Mariah is one of the most listened to artists from the last four decades all through the year. So, people on this board, don't get fooled by the memes and the gimmicks surounding Mariah from now on and untill Christmas, she is not defrosting, cause she has never been frozen, non pun intended, Madonna
(Tuesday 3 October 2023; 15:15)
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Perfection (103,185)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I agree. Truths and facts and face value of things have started to get blurry. It's a dangerous road the world is on right now, and AI produced covers and songs from living and dead artists is just another thing on that road.
Imagine in maybe 50 years, many people will have forgotten what's real and what's not real. If these AI manufactured things wont stop without a license or with warnings that it's not real, people in the future wont investigate every single thing they will come across, and fake song will be thought of as original work.
With this developement, people wont know which songs that are actually written and sung by Mariah. One can question if it's a bad thing or not, perhaps Mariah's legacy will live longer? For me personally I would like the original work of an artist to live on, not some manufactured songs without soul.
(Tuesday 15 August 2023; 03:40)
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Perfection (103,179)
by Andrew from the UK
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The AI voice is incredible. I would likely not have known the difference. But you are right: knowing it's not real takes away the essential aspect of listening to and being a fan of an artist - especially in Mariah's case as somebody that writes and produces the music, too. Who gets passionate about a computer? YouTube fed me If Only You Know/Somewhere Over the Rainbow (1998) and You and I (2002) so it redeemed itself. But this AI world needs strict regulation - very quickly. The SAG are right to strike, musicians alike should down tools to negatively impact the Western economy until a regulatory framework is introduced whereby it is unlawful to reproduce someone's image and voice using AI without consent. No good - let me say again - no good can come from any of this.
(Monday 14 August 2023; 13:12)
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Mariah's version (103,102)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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You think the version at the Garmmy Nomination was awful? And what do you mean it was prerecorded and lipped? You can clearly see on Mariah's face that she sings most of it live. Some parts are lipped, yes, but those eye brows movements she can never replicate when she is lip synching, it's live for the most part.
Mariah has to make decision in her life, to get healthier, work on her voice, if she really wants to impress people again. Or she can do whatever she's doing right now, and not being able to sing the easiest songs live, lip almost everything of every song.
I don't know if she is content with status quo, living the best life with her kids. I have a feeling ever since she was married with Tommy Mottola, that practicing, rehearsing has become something that only bring out bad memories, that she has simply quit doing it, because she was forced to while married. But come on, it's been 25 years, time to move on. I just can't fathom that a person who was once known as one the best singers in the world, with an unbelievable range, can be happy with not being able to sing a tune anymore. Or I'm wrong, maybe she's just over it.
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Mariah's version (103,101)
by Bill from the UK
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The monstrosity that appeared on Apple's Magical Christmas. Although 2008 at the Grammy's was also awful, how I wish she'd be able to sing like that now. Even though it later transpired it was a re-recorded version she, of course, lipped to.
(Saturday 29 July 2023; 21:29)
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Cut the crap (102,992)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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We all know that we are utterly dissapointed because our beloved Mariah hasn't released an album in years. But please, can you all watch, the last tone takes me to heaven. I'm not longer afraid to die, Mariah will be there to hold on to me.
(Tuesday 11 July 2023; 02:53)
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