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About Bobby A from United States:
I have been a Lamb since 1990. I know Mariah. I love her music. I breathe her music.
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Mariah at Sandringham (110,541)
by Bobby A from United States
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Bill, I feel the 3rd single is going force MC to step up and sing live when she embarks on the U.S. promotional tour. MC's Teena Marie's Ooh La La La is on the way. I just feel it. Teena Marie gained her core R&B audience back with her #1 song. People resonated with lyrics of Ooh La La La. I believe the 3rd single is going to do that for MC. I don't think it is Here For It All. The 3rd single has to give the Lambs that huge shock factor when she drops it.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 12:12)
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Mariah at Sandringham (110,538)
by Bill from the UK
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A YouTube account went through the footage to find the live moments. 3 minutes in total. An improvement over her usual 2 minutes. But Mariah has nothing to prove, is preserving her voice, has nodules, had a malfunctioning monitor and ear pierce, was wearing a tight corset, hadn’t had 10 hours sleep, and was suffering from terrifying and debilitating stage fright. Slay queen.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 10:43)
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Back to chart obsession (110,540)
by Bobby A from United States
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I feel that 3rd single is going to be the one single from the album that is going get pop radio's attention. It rumored to be a R&B ballad. I feel it is going to be released as MC embarks on the HFIA album promotional tour. She can't talk about Type Dangerous and Sugar Sweet as much now because these singles were released two months before the album. MC will have to perform the 3rd single live on the talkshow arena as much as she can three weeks before the album comes out. The VMA's will kick off the U.S. promotional tour. Plus, MC is one of the iHeart Music Festival performers. So, MC has to be ready to compete with Zara Larrson and Doja Cat. Who will have the most impactful week of September 22- 26?
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 11:59)
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Back to chart obsession (110,536)
by Shezz from Pk
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I definitely agree that this era was launched a month too early. I think 2 months prior was more than enough or she should have dropped the album in August but I suppose it wasn't ready to be able to do that. Though other artists are taking even longer to drop albums after releasing singles, like Jade and Ed Sheeran. I also think it was bad planning. She was stuck with global touring dates she had committed to prior. Like why is the Celebration of Mimi tour going sporadically until the end of the year when she has a brand new album coming out?
Feels like she's stuck between being a current pop artist and a legacy artist and she's trying to balance both.
Also, she needs to realize that singles aimed to draw in the younger audience won't fly. Release a ballad if you believe in it. They will both perform the same.
Rumours are that LA Reid has secured her a ten minute performance at the VMAs. It'll probably be akin to her Billboard icon performance with TD and SS in the mix.
Imagine if she premiered Here For It All there with just the piano (I am not even expecting her to live sing it because God knows she wont even attempt those vocals live).
I found the clip a bit screechy at first but it has really grown on me. Finally some deeper stronger lyrics. The lyrics make me wonder if she wrote them for Roc and Roe. Or even herself.
I think there will be some solid songs on the album that'll make us scratch our heads even though I really like TD and SS.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 07:42)
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Here For It All snippet (110,539)
by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you so much, Terna. I never would have thought chord progressions as being so complicated. I guess this is the reason why MC almost always has a humming part at the beginning of her songs like Always Be My Baby. I understand better now. Anyone can always say that a song is a Mariah Carey song because of her recognizable chord progressions. Plus, this is the reason why MC collaborated so well with piano composers like Ben Margulies, Walter A., Loris Holland, Big Jim Wright, and Marc Shaiman.
(Sunday 17 August 2025; 11:32)
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Here For It All snippet (110,531)
by Terna from Nigeria
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To explain and actually make sense at a basic level I'll have to define some terms I'm going to be using to describe those phrases the AI came up with. 1. Chord - two or more notes played at the same time. 2. Progression - the act of moving from one chord to another rhythmically and in a certain pattern, repeatedly throughout a song or music piece. 3. Time signature - the number of beats per measure that influences the rhythmic movement of the song or music piece. 4. Tonic - root of a key or scale (the first note also known as the "doh") 5. "Key" and "scale" refer to the same thing and might be intertwined, but not really the same. "Scale" is a string of notes contained in a key of a song and its mode whether major or minor. "Key" is usually the name or tag for the set of notes a particular piece of music is written in. 6. Relative major and relative minor: every major key has a relative minor key and vice versa. This means that the same set of notes that make up the major scale also make up its relative minor scale too, but their starting points (tonics) are different. For instance C Major and A Minor are relative of each other they all contain only white keys, no black keys. 7. Accidentals - the black keys on the piano that indicate sharps or flats.
From the clip we heard of "Here for It All" it seems to be a piano ballad, maybe a beat drops later on in the song, but so far the chord progressions (the piano's music movements) are in a traditional 4/4 time signature "1,2,3 4, 1,2,3,4" ("Mine Again", "The Art of Letting Go") rhythmically, but patterned differently. Paying close attention to the chords, there seems to be a borrowed chord in there, but I really cannot tell until I hear the whole song. A borrowed chord from a parallel key, means lifting a chord from this parallel scale (major or minor) to incorporate into a music piece in a related key, usually to create dissonance that isn't too jarring. This action is the "modal mixture" and that borrowed chord would not really fit in with the ones played before or after it depending on where it is placed, but will still be in tune because, it is a chord that shares notes with the original key except for one, two or three accidentals ("Vision of Love" comes to mind). For instance C Major's relative minor is A minor, but its parallel minor is C Minor because they share the same tonic (A minor doesn't start on note C but on note A) but C minor has 3 flats in it. Contemporary musicians and song writers use this trick to create intrigue or unpredictability to get the listener engaged, amongst a host of other emotions and not have their songs predictable, redundant or boring. As more and more songs keep getting written and released, it gets harder to standout or sound different. Here's a good example of a borrowed chord in the live skit she did on Jimmy Fallon from 2014. at the 2:44 minute mark when she starts singing "The Art of Letting Go", the line "I no longer live in your dominion", the word "Live" coincides with a disjointed or different chord whose introduction changed the feel, and lets the listener sense her demeanor to know there's an element of solemnness/seriousness to the song and it's going to be a song that touches on a serious topic. Hope this helped and was not too convoluted and technical. Haha. Music theory.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 23:55)
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Here For It All snippet (110,528)
by Bobby A from United States
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I can hear those two songs as well, Zac. From what I hear on the snippet, HFIA has a pre-hook part where MC's buttery tone and falsetto shines before she belts "Baby, I'm here for it all." I bet the full song is fire. We should get the 3rd single after Labor Day. Maybe HFIA or the Anderson .Paak duet
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 13:28)
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Here For It All snippet (110,527)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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I am hearing a bit of "I Only Wanted" from Charmbracelet and "I Am Free" from Daydream.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 12:52)
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Here For It All snippet (110,526)
by Bobby A from United States
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Terna, can you help me understand chord progression? You said Here For It All is very Mariahesque in melody and chord progression. AI said MC's chord progressions have a modal mixture departing from the core chords of the song's key to borrow chords from parallel mode. What does all of that mean? Can you give me one MC ballad from each her albums that has a similar chord progression to help me understand? I listened to the snippet with headphones and it is not bad at all. It reminds of MC's vocals on Heavenly (Can't Give Up Now). I think multiple radio formats would play Here For It All because it's a piano ballad similar in the vein of Adele's Easy On Me.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 04:13)
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Here For It All snippet (110,443)
by Terna from Nigeria
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It's a ballad and final track in the vein of "Portrait" I guess. Very Mariahesque melody and chord progression, but I don't know about that vocal at all.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 23:18)
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I would be a completely different person (110,524)
by Bobby A from United States
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Lol. Okay, you got me there. I need to enroll back in school. That was funny. Mariah hurry up and release your album. I want my friend Zac back.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 02:45)
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I would be a completely different person (110,523)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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Wow. It's like school in summer - no class.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 02:20)
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Back to chart obsession (110,521)
by Bobby A from United States
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I believe the plan all along was for Sugar Sweet to be a promo single. Someone realized at Gamma it just wasn't going to do anything on the charts. Some AR executive said probably that afro beats was not what people wanted from Mariah Carey. They released SS anyway to launch preorders. I hope the third single is the one.
(Saturday 16 August 2025; 00:57)
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Back to chart obsession (110,516)
by jaker20 from US
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It's like clockwork in this forum. I love Doja but collabing with her just to chart is pretty desperate. She's likely to out-chart Mariah, but who cares, as long as HFIA is as good as Caution, I will be happy. If we hope for a chart position for HFIA, we will be disappointed.
When Sugar Sweet was released, reception was extremely positive. But because it didn't chart, we don't like it anymore. The quickness lambs switch on her based on chart position is sad. She's really a victim of her own success.
I love the song, love the beat, it feels like a classic. It doesn't feel out of place to her catalog like that I Don't mess. And she's collabing and she increase their profile even a little. She's in her giving era, launching careers. I hope the song has its moment someday, I'm almost thinking it being a theme for a cooking show and it explodes lol. That's how IWTKWLI is Brazil when it became a theme for a show.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 22:52)
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I would be a completely different person (110,518)
by Bobby A from United States
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You got to have a sassy comeback for mouth shutters though.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 23:16)
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I would be a completely different person (110,511)
by Edward from USA
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Be careful, Zachariah is a mouth shutter, he shuts people's mouth. Mariah couldn't keep singing "SS" because Kehlani and Shenseea weren't there to support her or maybe the song is very difficult to sing. There's also a possibility that Mariah couldn't hear herself. This is what I think is happening though: Mariah started defrosting too early this year.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 15:54)
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I would be a completely different person (110,517)
by Bobby A from United States
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It's interesting that she can sing during some occasions and other occassions she can't. Something inside of MC is happening when she sings. Country singer Martina McBride lost her voice in 2022 from 30 years of overuse of her voice. Sadly, I feel HFIA will be MC's last album. It has been 7 years without new music because MC can't sing her songs like she wants to with all of the riffs, runs, and belting. I want the best for MC.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 22:55)
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I would be a completely different person (110,508)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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I still remember whether in 1995 or 1996 during an international interview, Mariah said that if she didn't have the voice she would be a completely different person. So I guess the Mariah now that we have is the different Mariah from what she used to be. Having the voice back then helped her in building her confidence and her issues with insecurities. Now that she lost it, don't deny it guys, she is what she is now. She tried to sing Sugar Sweet acapella recently during one of that UK radio interviews and half way she realised that the voice didn't come out.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 14:53)
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New single is Here For It All (110,506)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think you are on to something MhieMhie. IWTKWLI was a huge hit in Brazil. Maybe MC is hoping HFIA will become a huge international hit because of the love Brazil has for her.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 11:46)
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New single is Here For It All (110,503)
by MhieMhie from Vietnam
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Based on the lyrics from the snippet last UK preview, it can be the next single as she never previews any single unless it will be released officially. One theory too is the MV in Brazil and I think it will be audience coded MV similar to Infinity.
Mariah miming to the song then video the audience. She chose Brazil as they have undying love for her and are always Here For It All.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 06:34)
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Do you all think? (110,499)
by Bobby A from United States
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It's too late. The media would run with a negative story that Mariah Carey pushes back her album. I say just do something marketing wise with the third single that incorporates a hot video, guest feature and an end of summer ad campaign that makes people book that last summer trip to the beach. Supposedly, MC is getting ready to film a music video in Brazil this weekend with the Brazilian Lambs.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 01:12)
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Do you all think? (110,475)
by Randy from USA
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She'll push the album date?
(Thursday 14 August 2025; 03:33)
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Doja Cat (110,498)
by Bobby A from United States
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I told you. I heard the rumblings on X that Doja Cat was releasing a new album. These record labels are not playing this August, September, and October releasing new music from their biggest artists. Doja Cat and Taylor Swift are huge streaming artists. They want a piece of the cake that Morgan Wallen and Kendrick Lamar bit off this year. MC should have been ready to drop her album in April instead of September. Oh well, this rollout has had some positives and negatives. I wish Here For It All had a video and song like Papa Don't Preach that had Madonna's True Blue's on everybody's lips and minds the summer of 1986. What a great album summer rollout.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 00:55)
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Doja Cat (110,495)
by jaker20 from US
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She's apparently releasing on the same day as Mariah. Suddenly everyone is releasing and is out to get her.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 00:34)
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Pitchfork/Allure interviews (110,497)
by Bobby A from United States
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Let's hope her U.S. interviews are better and full of energy. Overall, she is loved by the U.S. news media and daytime talk shows. Jennifer Hudson would be a great first interview after Labor Day and a SNL performance on October 4th.
(Friday 15 August 2025; 00:42)
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Pitchfork/Allure interviews (110,491)
by BFF from United States
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Mariah looks good in both of these interviews, but she still seems so low energy in both. I've kind of been worried about her health ever since some of that footage from the Mimi residency earlier his year. She just seems so tired in so many of her performances and interviews.
(Thursday 14 August 2025; 20:14)
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Taylor Swift (110,477)
by Bobby A from United States
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Taylor announced yesterday that her album is dropping on October 3rd, just one week later after MC's masterpiece. Let the battle begin because you know the media will talk about chart battle on October 3rd. Why couldn't she just wait until late October?
(Thursday 14 August 2025; 05:36)
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Taylor Swift (110,471)
by Edward from USA
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Exactly my sentiment. I love Bobby A's positive outlook, but having realistic expectations matters too. If "Sugar Sweet" had been released by Ariana or any other hot artist of the moment, I'm sure it would've taken off. Sadly, Mariah just isn't on most people's radar these days. We, her remaining fans, will always root for her, but it's becoming clear that the general public just doesn't connect with her as an artist anymore, almost as if they can't relate. That's why she hasn't been able to ride the wave of AIWFCIY into a big follow-up project. Maybe she's said everything she had to say, but until she starts singing from her heart again, I don't see anything changing.
I can only name one Taylor Swift song, and that's because it shares a title with one of Mariah's, "Shake It Off". I'm not a fan of her music, even though I did give "Red" and its twenty variations a try. But when fans in non-English speaking countries are willing to camp outside stadiums for three months just to see her, regardless of promotions or record labels, it's clear she's universally loved like Mariah once was, before her diva persona took over.
(Thursday 14 August 2025; 01:42)
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Taylor Swift (110,455)
by Bobby A from United States
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There are four likes already this morning. I must really talk too much. Lol.
(Wednesday 13 August 2025; 11:46)
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Taylor Swift (110,454)
by Zachariah from Croatia
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How I wish that chart-showdown we're fantasizing about would actually happen just so that we can shut your mouth.
(Wednesday 13 August 2025; 08:32)
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Taylor Swift (110,449)
by Bobby A from United States
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I have been on X too much since June 6th reading too many posts that Taylor Swift is coming. Well, she will back in late September/October with a new album. I still think this is a direct AR marketing strategy by Republic Records to steal MC's shine and sales from 09.26 to 10.10. What else could it be to post album pre-orders without a first single released first? Don't say Bobby A didn't say it here first.
(Wednesday 13 August 2025; 02:47)
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Taylor Swift (110,441)
by Edward from USA
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Bobby A, sometimes I think you live in an alternate universe. Mariah isn't competing with anyone with "Here For It All". She's a legacy artist now, her last 11-track album came out nearly a decade ago. It's more like when Streisand or other legacy artists release something: their core fans eat it up, but that's about it.
Back in the '90s, when Mariah and Whitney were killing it, did you really think any legacy artist from that time could compete with them? Exactly. So let's not pretend we're still in that era where a new Mariah release is a head-to-head chart battle. This is a completely different stage of her career.
Here's what will likely happen: the album drops, us Lambs grab it immediately, and within three or four weeks, it's gone from the Billboard Top 100 albums. Mariah's waited too long, and outside of us devoted fans, most people have moved on. That's not pessimism, just a dose of realism. Which is why I'm hoping it's a great album, one that earns solid reviews and a few well-deserved accolades.
In short, that chart-showdown you're fantasizing about? It's not going to happen.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 17:39)
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Here For It All (110,448)
by Bobby A from United States
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Don't say that Edward. It is too sad to think that is the best vocal take. Surely, what was played at the event was just the vocal demo before Brian Garten worked his engineering magic.
(Wednesday 13 August 2025; 02:33)
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Here For It All (110,447)
by Edward from USA
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I have to agree with you about her vocals sounding a bit "chipmunkey" on the belting part of the "HFIA" clip. As for that impromptu performance of "Stay the Night", it was from about five years ago, during the pandemic. At the time, she said she'd gotten her voice back and wouldn't ever tour again, but sadly, that didn't last. I don't think she could replicate those vocals today; her voice is just too far gone.
Mariah is a perfectionist, so what we're hearing in the "HFIA" clip is most likely the very best she could deliver, chosen from multiple takes. It's sad, but I think this is simply where her voice is now.
(Wednesday 13 August 2025; 01:43)
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Taylor Swift (110,440)
by Bobby A from United States
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I think Taylor Swift is going to drop The Life of a Showgirl on 09.26. She has not announced the release date yet, but peorders have started. If she does drop on 09.26, it will be bad for MC. Let's hope that is not the case. Vinyls are suppose to ship by 10.13. So that leaves 10.3 and 10.10 as the other drop dates.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 15:49)
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Daniel Moore vs. Big Jim Wright (110,432)
by Bobby A from United States
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That's it Lambi. You explained it so much better what I was trying to say about Daniel Moore and Big Jim Wright.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 02:01)
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Daniel Moore vs. Big Jim Wright (110,404)
by Lambi from USA
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This is fun. Daniel worked on In The Mix, Fall In Love At Christmas, Portrait, and Type: Dangerous, which I thought are all mid. I get what you mean though. I think Moore is more encouraging to Mariah about embracing her recent voice after seeing that Mimi session. I can hear him say, "It's okay, we can lower the key here."
Big Jim worked on Circles, Fly Like A Bird, Cry, and It's A Wrap, which are better songs, so to me he's a better match for Mariah musically.
However, Mariah's most superior collaborator will forever be Walter. I know we share this sentiment. It's like music geniuses, match made in heaven. That was God's will. All I Want For Christmas Is You, One Sweet Day, Hero, Outside, Close My Eyes, Forever, My All are unmatched. Mariah hasn't made a ballad quite the same ever since.
I truly do wish she would squash whatever unforgivable sin Walter did to her and just get on making new music.
(Monday 11 August 2025; 01:49)
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Bryan Tanaka (110,429)
by Bobby A from United States
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I wish they were still together too.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 01:47)
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Bryan Tanaka (110,422)
by Giovanni from USA
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I don't know about y'all but I miss seeing Bryan. I think he and Mariah made such a nice looking couple. He's so handsome and has a nice smile and nice personality. I know he wanted a family but Mariah really looked happy with him.
(Monday 11 August 2025; 20:35)
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Here For It All (110,428)
by Bobby A from United States
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I love it already. The look MC had while the crowd was listening was like "I wrote that song." She is really embracing who she has become this year. I don't see or hear the sadness like 3 years ago. You go, MC.
(Tuesday 12 August 2025; 01:43)
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by Haiji from United States
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So this is what the title track sounds like. It's sounds similar to Portrait to me. I can't wait for the full song.
(Monday 11 August 2025; 20:40)
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Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,421)
by Bobby A from United States
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Any medication change your mood and energy level. Also, thanks to the lovely ladies that I work with in a classroom, I have learned more than I wanted to know about how menopause affects women. One of the ladies is 57, and she has mood swings and low/high energy levels that drive me crazy. Maybe MC is in the midst of menopause.
(Monday 11 August 2025; 18:26)
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Mariah's reaction to Katy Perry skyrockets (110,417)
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Unfortunately this is Mariah now, over medicated and numb. How can she expect her songs to have any energy when she's like this. When they showed the old interview with Jamie Theakston, it showed a complete contrast in her. There she was lively, interactive and engaged. Now it's like her batteries are half full at most, she's disengaged, slowed down and flat. Yes she has some fun moments but the energy is low and doesn't let herself go or relax like she once did.
(Monday 11 August 2025; 15:36)
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Here For It All album title (110,408)
by Bobby A from United States
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It just dawn on me that the Here For It All album title is unlike Mariah Carey's other album titles. It is her first album song title that is symbolic to MC's personal life since Butterfly.
(Monday 11 August 2025; 03:00)
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Petals (110,401)
by Bobby A from United States
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Do you think we will get a ballad like Petals on HFIA? MC said it is a deep cut during her BBC Xtra1 Radio interview. I love it. You can tell it is a Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis production. Anyway, I am starting to feel really good about the various musical styles HFIA is shaping up to be. Who cares about charts, ctitics, and awards? I just want an album that I can listen to from beginning to end.
(Sunday 10 August 2025; 18:16)
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Daniel Moore vs. Big Jim Wright (110,394)
by Bobby A from United States
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I am loving the creativity Daniel Moore is bringing out MC more than Big Jim Wright. She seems to me that she is taking risks with her songs with Daniel Moore and being more vulnerable in her lyrics. I feel MC is going to answer a lot of questions in the track Here For It All. I feel we will get know MC better after HFIA.
(Saturday 9 August 2025; 19:43)
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