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Re: I'll do it for money, honey (75,918) (75,920) by T from USA She just lost her way. That's all, she's lost. It's too bad because whether it was just a cultivated image or not, I truly believed she cared about the music. (Wednesday 31 May 2017; 22:53)

Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,914) (75,917) by T from USA And that's what I believe is happening to Mariah at the moment. It's too bad she cannot see it. But I think a lot of times it has to do with a mental state of mind (ego) more then anything. That's why the ones that reach iconic status like MJ, Kanye, etc tend to fall off the deep end. The only mega superstar that I can see has kept her cool (didn't loose the plot) is Madonna. I don't know how she's managed to keep such a thick skin all these years. For a woman who built a career out of changing every two seconds, she sure has stayed the same in a grounded sense. (Wednesday 31 May 2017; 21:47)

Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,903) (75,908) by T from USA The second part: Why 2009 and Obsessed are so significant. It hit me the other day. I used to love Kanye West, espeically during the College Drop Out/Late Registration eras. But in the last few years I haven't liked his public persona. I haven't bought his last three albums and don't care for the songs. Kanye the person rubs me the wrong way. Now I will always have a soft spot for those early songs (as I'm sure the public does with Mariah's early hits), but the more Kanye annoys me, even that taints his older songs in my eyes. Now to Mariah. She was one of the most brilliant pop stars of her generation. She would always craft a song not specifically about her but in a way that could relate to everyone. She didn't alienate with her lyrics. She knew that she had to take herself out of the equation so that the songs would become timeless. But since 2009 and Obsessed she's started to alienate with her persona (and her lyrics, the songs were more pointed towards her drama). Had she stayed the good girl who was just about the music I don't think she would be in any career mess right now. But she rubs people the wrong way and eventually it's going to affect her older material as well. When people hear the name Mariah, unfortunately they are just going to turn the channel. It's funny how you can tear down everything you once held dear just by trying to stay relavant. It's almost ironic. (Wednesday 31 May 2017; 13:52)

Re: Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,878) (75,903) by T from USA I think the truth is money motivates Mariah. It always has. She was a poor kid growing up and music was a means to an ends. Had she been born rich there is no telling if she would've worked as hard or produced that sound and written those songs. Now that she is so rich she doesn't need music the same way she once did. She used to always say that she would feel that the rug would get pulled out from under her if she didn't continue to work hard. But now I think she realizes she is set for life. Mariah's musical career took a dip once the money wasn't there in music anymore, which was right around 2009 (when she went Gold). She tried one more attempt at cashing in with a second Chirstmas album but that didn't sell like the old days either. So she settled on an 18 million dollar reality TV show paycheck. (Something she swore she would never do in the past, but like the Virgin Records deal, money talks.) I will always wonder what would've been if she used Idol properly to promote MIAM. Maybe just maybe we wouldn't be down this road right now. (Wednesday 31 May 2017; 03:36)

Mariah lost the plot after Memoirs (75,871) by T from USA Actually I noticed a change in Mariah the artist after she released Obsessed. I think that song cursed the rest of her career. I really do. I mean it was the last single to date that she promoted properly in that old school Mariah fashion but even with all the hard work it only reached #7. And then there was the subject matter. It was a very different kind of single for MC. There was an air of desperateness around it. As if for the first time she needed controversy to sell a record. Since that song she has never promoted a song properly (or even had a top 10). Maybe the music gods weren't too keen on Mariah making and releasing Obsessed. (Tuesday 30 May 2017; 02:18)

Mariah lost a fan literally (75,700) by T from USA It's weird we just had this whole long debate about how Mariah is loosing tons of fans as of late, figuratively. Then 24 hours later we hear that she has lost a fan literally (through a senseless act). I think we can all learn from this that whatever Mariah is up to, doing or not doing, it's not that deep. She's not hurting anyone and it's all just entertainment. There are way more important things in life then if Mariah is doing another season of the reality show. Or if we get an album this year or next. It doesn't really matter. We should just be grateful that she is still putting her energy to entertain us. (Thursday 25 May 2017; 13:24)

Everyone fanning over Celine (75,559) by T from USA There are tons of pictures of celebs, like Drake etc. in Celine Dion's dressing room showing her love and respect. I just thought about this compared to Mariah and I don't think MC would want a room full of younger acts "bowing" down to her and stuff. Mariah seems very uncomfortable with her fame to this date and she really only likes to hang with her inner circle. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:41)

I would've been happy if Mariah retired (75,557) by T from USA Before you jump down my throat, here [sic] me out. I would've been happier if she retired after #1's to Infinity if it meant she didn't go down this route. No NYE disaster. I would've been okay with a twenty five year flawless career. I don't want her going thirty five years but the last ten are going to be a laughing stock. No thank you. I respect her and her talent way to much to see her degrade herself any further. Now that being said, had she continued with the work ethic of at least the Memoirs era and a great NYE performance then I wouldn't mind if she continued. (Tuesday 23 May 2017; 02:28)

The rise of YouTube, the downfall of Mimi (75,541) by T from USA We know Mariah has had self esteem issues her whole life. Anybody who would believe that they have a bad side off one comment clearly does. But she dealt with it and in the '90s she was younger (prettier) and there weren't as many uncontrolled photo opps. Now as an older Mariah (who is trying to stay young looking with questionable methods) and the ability to upload her image at any given time must be driving her self esteem issues through the roof. Think about it, in 1995 if she had a bad performance it wouldn't be everywhere the next minute. As social media started to really rise to the levels it is now Mariah's career started to falter. In correlation. I'm looking at you 2008. Blogs like Perez Hilton started to become the voice and Mariah was a hostage to public opinion. For someone like Madonna with a thicker skin we didn't see the effects right away, but for our sensitive Mariah it must've have been hell. She carried on anyway and still tweeted throughout 2009 but after 2011 when she had her twins, her body changed and she was now 41. I noticed a big difference. And after Rockerfeller tree lighting incident she stopped using her own social media altogether. I can only imagine the hateful things she read about herself on there. Now with the NYE debacle there is no chance for her to ever feel safe or comfortable performing. Her esteem is shot and she is too guarded. Which is now a perfect mix for someone like Stella to "protect" her. Mariah's star was born at a time before social media and YouTube, I think she's tried her best (and her talent has kept her around) but like many artists she has found it hard to transition to this new era. The post 2010 technological landscape. Like in the '80s when some acts couldn't continue because they couldn't transition to the new MTV music video age. I feel bad for Mariah in this regard, she was once the most beautiful singer on the scene. But she warned us in 2008: "If there's a camera up in here then it's gonna leave with me when I do. If there's a camera up in here, then I'd best not catch this flick on YouTube. And nobody listened." (Monday 22 May 2017; 21:59)

Pictures of Mariah in the recording studio (75,532) by T from USA There are new pics of Mariah at the recording studio the night she did the Jamie Fox show. Is it just me or do I see Jermaine Duprie [sic] in the clip with Jamie Fox? So we can be sure she went into the studio with JD after that then because I don't know if she's working with anyone else at the moment. (Monday 22 May 2017; 15:33)

Re: The Busta song (75,524) (75,531) by T from USA I think it was some kind of weird co-project between the two of them set up by Reid and DJ Khaled at Epic. Mariah does have some say in it I'm sure because she was going to drop it at the end of the month that her tour was starting. I read somewhere that it was supposed to coincide with her tour. She may feel like she can't promote it properly without the tour behind her so they are holding off (for now). (Monday 22 May 2017; 15:31)

Article: "Artists aren't going to need labels much in the future" (75,523) by T from USA Where did this Mariah go? I love this review of MIAM, and I love how focused she was. (Monday 22 May 2017; 14:27)

Mariah loosing a lot of fans (75,520) by T from USA From what I read around the Internet and talking to various people outside of the Internet it seems that Mariah is loosing tons of fans and at a rapid rate. If this continues she may not [have] very many left by next year. I think she should hurry and get that album out this year as she still has somewhat of a fan base and plus with Katy Perry flopping there is litterally no other female compitition on the horizon. This might be her best chance. (Monday 22 May 2017; 13:42)

The Busta song (75,519) by T from USA It was said the song was supposed to come out right before her tour with Lionel Ritchi [sic]. But once that got pushed back so did the song I guess. Maybe we'll hear it in August then. (Monday 22 May 2017; 13:39)

Re: Interesting LA Reid article (75,501) (75,518) by T from USA I also think that promises were made from Doug Morris to LA Reid that once he steps down LA would take the reigns as top boss. But this business is so shady they say one thing and do another. To be fair Striger ran a way better Columbia than Reid did at Epic so the right man got the job. Then of course as to not look embarrased Sony leaks "stories" about sexual harrassment. But watch nothing will happen going forward. (Monday 22 May 2017; 13:38)

Signature song (75,300) by T from USA Mariah has had so many hits that picking a signature song is almost impossible for her. I wonder what she would consider her signature song? Or at least want everyone to acknowledge as her signature? I think you have to break it down into three categories: 1. Commercial success, 2. Artistic expression, 3. Legacy. It can be argued that either Hero or WBT are her signature song because of their chart success. But at the same time Butterfly is her bold artistic expression that has symbolized her life and career to this day. Then there's always the legacy song's Vision of Love and AIWFCIY that could take the spot as her one signature song. For me it's one of those five songs. Don't ask me to pick. And that's not even talking about Fantasy and ABMB which could have a solid case made for then as well. (Wednesday 17 May 2017; 22:05)

Re: Ultimate Mariah Carey poll (75,295) by T from USA So I guess we can all agree that if we were to take Mariah's top 5 ballads of her career in terms of fan favorite, the order would go: 1) Butterfly 2) Vision of Love 3) We Belong Together 4) Hero 5) My All That's what I got from the poll. (Wednesday 17 May 2017; 14:04)

Re: The ultimate Mariah Carey song poll (75,284) (75,285) by T from USA My choice is We Belong Together. (Tuesday 16 May 2017; 18:34)

The ultimate Mariah Carey song poll (75,271) by T from USA Let's see which song gets the most votes of arguably the three greatest ballad songs in Mariah's catalogue and possibly the three biggest milestone songs in her career. If you could only pick one: Vision of Love, Butterfly, We Belong Together. (Tuesday 16 May 2017; 04:12)

Re: Where is Busta and Mariah? (75,252) (75,255) by T from USA Ummmmm... Infinity, (Infinity Remix), Infamous, I Dont ("I Dont Remix"). Those were her last three outputs. Right now I don't think she's doing herself any favors by releasing subpar material. The next song Mariah releases needs to be a return to form. (Monday 15 May 2017; 18:09)

Re: Where is Busta and Mariah? (75,244) (75,250) by T from USA It was supposed to come out before her March tour but once that got postponed so did the single. Now that LA Reid is gone I fear we will never hear it. But maybe that's for the best? (Monday 15 May 2017; 13:38)

Re: LA may have left on his own (75,239) (75,249) by T from USA He was, but he wasn't the head of Universal. That was Doug Morris. Then Doug Morris moved to Sony to become the head of Sony and hired LA Reid to head the "Epic" label. Last month Doug Morris stepped down as big boss at Sony but instead of promoting Reid to the position he chose the head of "Columbia" instead. (Monday 15 May 2017; 13:31)

LA Reid out, Mariah in trouble? (75,248) by T from USA It's being reported that LA Reid left Sony amist sexual harrasment claims made by a female employee. It's rumored that he may be going over to Warner. The article also says that this could be bad news for the newly re-singed Mariah Carey as he was one of the last people left who believes in her. Mariah can't handle even one more "MIAM" type era with uncertainty and disorganization. (It would actually be her third strike in this department; 1. Glitter 2. MIAMTEC.) Do you think Mariah should break from her Sony contract for good and follow Reid to Warner Bros.? (Monday 15 May 2017; 13:28)

Billboard's 2017 Power 100 (75,227) by T from USA So the annual power list was released from Billboard this year and guess what? No Stella. But in all seriousness a name that has never left the top 100 since I've been checking for years is Irving Azoff. (This year he places at no.6 right behind Rob Stringer, new boss of Sony records.) Mariah had him as a manager (with Randy Jackson) from November 2011 to sometime in 2013. I can only only imagine how things would've turned out if she stayed with the two of them. Sure Randy had two misses, the Bieber duet and A.I. but he was instrumental in the early stages of MIAM album. I remember I hated this article so much but now in hindsight (and Stella) I wish I could go back in time. (Saturday 13 May 2017; 23:42)

LA may have left on his own (75,225) by T from USA When Doug Morris stepped down as ultimate leader at Sony records I have a feeling LA Reid (close personal friend of Morris) thought he would be next in line. I mean he's worked so long in this industry and the top job would be the last thing he had left to fulfill in his storied career. But instead it went to Stringer, the main guy at the sibling label Columbia. I can see how ego's can get in the way and tempers could flare causing Reid to leave. (Saturday 13 May 2017; 23:31)

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