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Re: The problem with Mariah (92,764) (92,777) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The issue isnt just the weakness in her voice it is also how her voice *continues* to deteriorate. Performances last year were just plain awful and far less skilled than the previous year. I'll Be There is now an impossibility and whistles lipped so much you have to wonder if that ability has disappeared as well. (Sunday 9 February 2020; 12:05)

Re: Mariah (92,603) (92,625) by Andrew from the United Kingdom So you're laying down the foundation early for the defense when Mariah's autobiography turns out to be a white wash. You people are starting early this year. Now, she's going to be murdered. You are insane. I would be interested in your evidence, and not hearsay, that Michael Jackson was murdered by industry executives. Please share it. If you don't share it everyone can rest safe in the knowledge that you're admitting you are full of shit. Post it please. (Monday 27 January 2020; 08:56)

Re: Charmbracelet (92,578) (92,582) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I got it anyway. (Friday 24 January 2020; 22:20)

Re: The Marammys (92,574) (92,581) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Eddie, I mostly agree with you. But some alterations: Album (of the career): Butterfly Power ballad: All I've Ever Wanted Beautiful vocal ballad: Whenever You Call Up-Tempo: Fantasy (non-rap) Mid-Tempo: You Don't Know What To Do (is this mid tempo?) Cover: The Beautiful Ones (the "I may not know, I may not know" part is everything and everything after) Rare: Everything Fades Away (it's not rare for Europeans but it's still puts the awe in awesome) Lyrical: Languishing (baring your soul has never been so simple or subtle or moving.) Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Duet/Feature: Hero at Pavarotti and Friends (I don't have the words to describe it. The humility on her face, the wonder in his eyes, the harmony, the brave performance when she was clearly scrapping herself. That was Mariah sans bullshit. My dad, who hated her, said "wow". I have played it to death.) Live Performance: Anytime You Need A Friend (live at Proctors theatre - My brother, when he was 16 years old, watched it on VHS and said "I've never seen a person get so into her music" and I never forgot it. It was the first time I saw Mariah, also. We all sat aghast. We three brothers all later went on to travel to London to see Mariah in 1999.) Uptempo Remix: My All ("feel your body feel your body feel your body baby baby" - nothing beats the first time hearing that level of genius) R&B Remix: Honey (So So Def) (Its better than the original - the screaming st the end is fuh kin A. Adding:  Single that wasn't but should've been: You Don't Know What To Do (would've put her back on the map) (Friday 24 January 2020; 22:16)

Re: Grammys (92,558) (92,559) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Done with the lies? But you were only just getting started. You posted a tweet from a random person that smacks of conspiracy and propaganda - and lies - and are pushing it because it goes along with your other conspiracy theories even though it is yet to have any foundation. You talk absolute shite and everyone knows it. You convince nobody. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 09:07)

Re: Grammys (92,543) (92,552) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Searched everywhere to verify this tweet from a random person on twitter and I cannot find a news agency that backs this up. No mention anywhere. (Thursday 23 January 2020; 00:10)

Re: Butterfly (92,545) (92,549) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Andrew" Who, me? Ok. "I couldn't care less of what you read." Well, you *could* have cared less. You could have not responded. Or not read it. "Your views on Mariah these past years says a lot of you as a person (for a so called fan)." Cool. "The fact that the greatest singer songwriter producer in the world says that's the album she is most proud of speaks volumes." Doesn't Mariah say that about every album she releases? She hardly says "Buy my new album, but it's not as good as the one before, I liked that better. It meant more to me." "Most people here fell in love with a [sic] image that's not Mariah." And people who are lifelong fans need emotionally unstable, angsty teenagers to reveal the truth to them, right? "[S]he [sic] still as talented as she started." Who denied this? Her output may not be as good, but that does not diminish her talent. Pray tell, where did you hear this, child? "[H]er album is musically better than every album of the year." How nice of you to bring up E=MC2. But moving on, Caution is "musically" better that every other album of the year? The *music* album by the *music* artist is *musically* better? In what other ways was it *not* better? "Mariah won't sell until she travels around the world and change [sic] people's views on her since worldwide media usually only report the bad stuff." Mariah doesn't sell many records anymore because the media reports on activities which have harmed her image and appeal? Seems to me the answer would have been to protect the brand in the first place. Post hoc ergo propter hoc, perhaps. "([Bad stuff] sells more.)" The mystery of Charmbracelet deepens. "The fact that Mariah sings circles around Adele even today." Is this a "fact"? It is written like an opinion. I mean, it looks like an opinion, it even smells like an opinion... seems like you're making a "staymuhn uhv yur own uhpihnyun." "Untied Kingdom most successful artist today." No wonder the kingdom is tied up in knots as nobody knows who to call the most successful. Because Ed Sheeran has reportedly sold more than Adele. "Always makes me laugh and smile." You? The emotionally frail child with no sense of humour or irony laughs and smiles? Well, good for you, kid. "Erase her past and judge her on today's vocals alone and she is still one of the most talented vocalists ever." Come on. I love me some Mariah. I listened to 3 albums back to back today alone and had someone laugh and tell me to stop singing Heavenly in the supermarket. But to assert Mariah is one of the most talented vocalists ever at this very moment in time? I wish it were so, don't even care anymore that it isn't so, and, well, just no. Stay in school, kid. "Caution lacked belting notes (which I don't really care for)." This is just conjecture, of course, but I would leave the farm to you and the horse you rode in on about a year ago that if Mariah's next album is somehow full of amazing belts, you would claim that it is, like, totally the best thing ever and you have loved the belting ever since you were, like, ten. Which I am more certain than ever would have been somewhere around 2018. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 23:57)

Re: Butterfly (92,537) (92,539) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I'm travelling to work and on Close My Eyes having listened to Butterfly from the beginning. And I forgot just how out of place and depressing Babydoll is. It really is a total misfit. Were it not for Babydoll, Butterfly would be a cohesive body of work. Lmao. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 10:06)

Re: Butterfly (92,534) (92,538) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Stopped reading at "cohesive body of work". A reviewer's equivalent of polishing a turd. (Wednesday 22 January 2020; 10:04)

Re: Butterfly (92,526) (92,528) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Would you say that, whilst Butterfly is undoubtedly great, it's very... serious? There are no real moments of elation, partying or joy. Perhaps that's why it's not everyone favourite despite its significance. I feel the same about Caution. It's very downbeat but without the totally amazing amazingness of Butterfly. Daydream is great because it has powerful moment of happiness. (Tuesday 21 January 2020; 14:03)

Re: Mariah (92,507) (92,514) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Oh my days, give the Earth a break. It has enough to put up with, what with Greta Thunberg boring everyone to tears with her denying climate change deniers their right to deny, Iran wanting to nuke the very place it calls the holy land and French people striking from striking and going to work for a day. "A cohesive" "body of work" is almost as boring a sentence as that which it probably seeks to describe. "A cohesive body of work" suggests the constituent parts of a thing have, in themselves, no merit, whereas together they make sense and are passable. It's hardly descriptive of a Magnus Opus. Or anything worth leaving your nuclear bunker for. (Tuesday 21 January 2020; 00:01)

Re: Some dirt (92,510) (92,513) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Genuinely dont know or remember who "Roger" is. But let me guess: a jumped-up opinionated queen with no talent save for slagging off people who have it and making themselves known only through their desire to outrage whilst hiding deep insecurity. Lmao. Go on. You know you want to. (Monday 20 January 2020; 23:53)

Re: Mariah (92,481) (92,512) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It's almost as if Mariah thinks she won't be cool if she writes universal lyrics like those in Whenever You Call - which is one of the greatest unknown love songs ever. The part "and lifted me insi-ide, by showing me yourself uhhhuhhhnnndiisssguised" is a prime example of the restraint, confidence and depth that Mariah had that Celine and Whitney did not. But Mariah has, now, for half her career, resorted to trite lyrics. We have had "kitchen windows", "half past four", "teddy bears" twice in one album, and, oh I dunno, something about doritos maybe, and so on. She's listened to the radio, she's parlez'd you francais, she's sprayed you with Windex. There seems little doubt that Mariah is trying to be clever and down with the kidz and it is surely old now. Adele doesn't sell bucket loads by spouting such shite. She sings about meaningful things that people connect with. Meanwhile back at the condo, Mariah is telling people to get the [censored] out with their shit. The lyrical mastery has become lyrical awkwardness. So awkward it comes across as the lyrical equivalence of dad-jokes. Whatever happened to universal lyrics? They have universal appeal. As in, they speak to everyone and stand the test of time. (Monday 20 January 2020; 23:50)

Re: Mariah (92,474) (92,494) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I have to disagree with you again but in a good way. The transition from GTFO to With You is brilliant. They are both stunning and and sonically fluid next to each other. (Monday 20 January 2020; 09:30)

Re: Where's whining Walter? (92,473) (92,493) by Andrew from the United Kingdom As the years go by the sheep do increasingly hate upon Walter which would be fine to me as I have no particular fondness for him but I struggle to realise the source of all the ire. So he and Mariah stopped working together. What actually happened we will never know (I'm looking at you, hideously titled book). But he wants to be recognised as part composer of one of the biggest songs of all time - which he is increasingly ignored about. He was instrumental (ahem) in the song. Without him it would not sound as it does and might mot even have been a success. He helped write the music and he played, or rather created, every single sound on the track you hear apart from the vocals (I dont know or care if he engineered them or someone else did). I find it highly unlikely that Mariah went in with the entire melody of the whole song as it appears on the final press given that she never does that and they both composed songs by playing around with chord changes. Mariah is undoubtedly a musical magician, but I think so was Walter and diminshing his contributions to Mariah's best known and loved songs or his importance to Mariah Carey's career is mean-spirited and yet more revisionist nonsense. (Monday 20 January 2020; 09:28)

Re: Mariah (92,459) (92,466) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Caution is nowhere near the musical or lyrical masterpiece that is Butterfly. I would say, though, that GTFO and With You are particularly brilliant. However, they are let down by really, really, really, really, really, bad lyrics in places: "Go stay at your friend's house or something Don't mean to be rude, but take your shit and leave" "As we were sneakin' through that door Had to leave by half past 4" Close My Eyes or Outside they are not. But the songs themselves are good enough to be classified as two of Mariah's best. Probably her best in a decade, aside from You Don't Know What To Do and Beautiful. And perhaps The Art of Letting Go (which itself is massively let down by some really clunky lyrics). (Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:40)

Re: Celine vs. Mariah (92,438) (92,465) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Celine and Mariah were once comparable in range but Mariah struggles to get anywhere above speaking range relying upon "eh eh" whereas Celine can still do it (which is a matter of fact). Mariah does have the better tone for Celine sounds cringeworthy when she does a soft whisper voice (which is a matter of opinion). To attempt to represent Celine as having vocal issues on a par with Mariah, or having relied upon lip-sync as much as Mariah, is revisionist nonsense (which is a matter of deception). Also, calling Celine "the woman" repeatedly is little bit, I dunno, dark? (Sunday 19 January 2020; 18:33)

Re: Celine vs. Mariah (92,425) (92,437) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Revisionist rubbish. You seek to downplay Celine's ability and appeal under the guise of erudition in order to make Mariah look better and the agenda completely transparent. Celine's voice may not have the same tonal quality as Mariah but she is technically a wizard and, also, to portray her singing as calculated, i.e. without passion, is absurd. If anything she puts too much passion into it so as to make it cringeworthy. And as for range, remove Mariah's whistle register and their ranges were pretty much the same and Celine now beats Mariah in that respect. You only have to watch Natural Woman at Diva's Live to know that. Revisionist rubbish. (Saturday 18 January 2020; 16:17)

Re: Celine vs. Mariah (92,424) (92,426) by Andrew from the United Kingdom My Belgian friend I must concur. Whitney is technically flawless. But I used to find her need for volume - her bellowing - very off-putting sometimes. I would never play I Will Always Love You to myself for enjoyment. But there are times when her bellowing is masterful. Such as All The Man That I Need which is haunting and bold at the same time. Whitney's voice is pure magical when she doesn't blow hard. I Love The Lord, I Believe In You And Me, and so on. But I would take Mariah over Whitney any day and twice on Tuesdays. She has the perfect sound - tone - in her voice. Others are "too this" and "too that". Not Mariah. (Friday 17 January 2020; 18:51)

Re: Celine vs. Mariah (92,395) (92,397) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Good effort. Enjoyed it. But I think you are skipping over the simple points: Mariah has been relying heavily upon lip sync for two decades and Celine has not. Mariah has failed to ever repeat live even once some of the stuff she has apparently laid to track. And if push came to shove, Celine could step in and probably hit most of it sounding good. Mariah won't even sing in Carpool Karaoke and shits herself when someone hands her a microphone for an impromptu moment. It's for the smoke, mirrors and lack of evidence that Mariah gets the most shit. Or used to. Not sure anyone gives a [censored] anymore. That being said, Celine, whilst having a great voice, has never had the pleasing tone Mariah had and sounds annoying as hell when she sings words in English sometimes. "Love" becomes "lurghve", "life" becomes "lahhf" and so on. It's irritating as shit. Just to play devils advocate. And hate on both equally. (Thursday 16 January 2020; 22:47)

Re: 100% as second single after Obsessed (92,357) (92,369) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I think I read several articles when IWTKWLI was released that Mariah said Nick suggested the song to her. Of course, that was when they were married so the story may be different now. (Thursday 16 January 2020; 08:01)

Re: Celine (92,356) (92,368) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It is clear Celine sometimes incorporates playback now. I think the difference in generosity towards Mariah and Celine would stem from 3 things: 1. Celine's ability to not struggle with singing in a normal range. 2. Celines's ability to make the playback transitions less painful and act it out rather than freeze and squint. 3. The levels of goodwill towards Celine from the industry and the public due to her much more down to Earth and likeable persona. Mariah sounds pretty bad at the moment. To have had to lip sync "With You", whose range my cat could sing in when especially hungry, says much. To deny that Mariah has serious and apparent vocal issues now is delusional at best and dishonest at worst. Celine has nowhere near the level of damage. And when Mariah's playback kicks in it is terribly obvious due to her *in*ability to act. If Mariah could do it as well as Celine people here would praise her. She did, in fact, do it pretty well at the SSFT. Something changed on that show, short term at least. But to criticise Celine about vocals and lip sync on a Mariah Carey platform is throwing stones in glass houses. Talking of the absurd: "I am not ready to call it a race thing." It actually *makes* you a racist to even consider this where no evidence at all suggests Mariah is criticised for her voice because of her race. Or if you have some, share it. Mel B said, not so long ago: "Maybe the voice just isn't there anymore." And she's, um, black, right? Somebody tell Mel B she's a racist. And Boyz II Men who also criticised Mariah's lack of care for her voice. But wait, they're men. They're clearly sexist, too. That's two victimhood gold stars. Sometimes I think that people on here criticise me because I'm white. It's all clear to me now. *And* I was called a girl here the other day. So I have been misgendered and also the victim of what I assume was intended to be an attack based upon my perceived sexuality. That's got to be at least a dozen victimhood gold stars for me. Any more and I'll be a disco ball. (Thursday 16 January 2020; 07:52)

Re: 100% as second single after Obsessed (92,350) (92,361) by Andrew from the United Kingdom William, thou art normally wise. But Ribbon is not the best song from Memoirs. Languishing undoubtedly is. It's pistols at dawn for anyone who disagrees. (Wednesday 15 January 2020; 19:55)

Re: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (92,354) (92,360) by Andrew from the United Kingdom These Halls of Fame are bizarre, aren't they? Someone, explain the premise. What happened this year that made Whitney eligible? What material change has their been in her qualifying criteria? She's dead. Nothings changed. What makes Chaka Khan not eligible? The restrictions on hke many can be inducted? Why the restriction? Either you meet the criteria or do not. I would like to know on what criteria Mariah falls short in these things. I cant imagine any. Why is Missy Eliot acknowledged ibti a Hall of Fame for songwriting when she has written less songs than Mariah, her songs have sold wildly less, her songs have not changed trends in music but rather followed them, and so on. These is no logic to any of this. It's a bit like JLo getting an Icon Award before Mariah. No logic. (Wednesday 15 January 2020; 19:53)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey supports Tyler Perry at premiere in NYC (92,353) (92,359) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Your comments are sexist. My sex doesnt mean I cannot criticise somebody of the opposite sex. To infer that it does is sexist. On that note, you mean seek "counselling" not "counsel". You may, as a defined bisexual person, be sexually attracted to Mariah's bare breasts - which is fine. But your sexuality is of little interest to anyone else and so the attention you ordered for it has been delayed due to shipping errors. To infer you are sexually attracted to Mariah is just plain weird for a genuine fan. It actually creeps me out that you look at Mariah for being an object of sexual desire and not just a musical genius. It's creepy. Needless to say that is what she wants, however. Mariah paid for a giant pair of tits and wants everyone to look at them all of the time. Even when it's a wet suit. (Wednesday 15 January 2020; 19:46)

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