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Re: Article: Mariah Carey supports Tyler Perry at premiere in NYC (92,335) (92,348) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The bottom half of her dress is, indeed, super cute. But the top half seems to be missing. Again. (Wednesday 15 January 2020; 08:54)

Re: Yummy? (92,293) (92,316) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You're an obsessive weirdo. I say I like Justin's new song and you go off on such a tangent you've lost your head up your arse. Nobody was talking to you. I like Mariah Carey, I like GTFO and With You. I listen to Mariah daily. Why don't you get a life and stop obsessing over me? Lmao. Pray for yourself. (Monday 13 January 2020; 22:41)

Speaking of irony (92,269) by Andrew from the United Kingdom 2020 may be the 25th anniversary of Daydream but it is also the 25th anniversary of Jagged Little Pill which was possibly the most momentous album of the 90's. And now it has a well-received Broadway musical based upon it so the competition for attention is fierce. Mariah should be fast working on something eye-catching to mark the only anniversary of her eminal work that will garner global attention. I suggest full performances of the album in London, New York and Tokyo, the release of the Underneath the Stars promo video and the digitally remastered concert in Madison Square Garden. (Saturday 11 January 2020; 13:13)

Re: I Have a Vision of Flop (92,262) (92,268) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The Greek tragedy concept of irony is lost on you, eh. (Saturday 11 January 2020; 13:06)

Re: I Have a Vision of Flop (92,249) (92,259) by Andrew from the United Kingdom 92,249. Remember that number. I will remind you of it in September if I am still around, and I will come back even if I am not, so that I may direct your attention back to this very day when you realised I was amazing from the day when I was, once again, proven right. (Friday 10 January 2020; 22:47)

Re: Yummy? (92,250) (92,258) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Yummy is a brilliant song. Can't stop listening to it despite never really being Justin's biggest fan. It is 10 times better than most of Caution. If I could actually prove it I would bet all the money in my pocket vs all the money in your pocket that if this was Mariah's new single you would sing its praises and say it was the greatest thing ever. It could actually be mixed with GTFO, the songs sound reasonably similar. Speaking of which, Mariah's video to that song consisted of her sitting and pouting with her tits hanging out. I am not sure we Mariah Carey fans are in any position to criticise videos from the likes of Justin Bieber, et al. Mariah's noughties videos are mostly terrible. (Friday 10 January 2020; 22:43)

I Have a Vision of Flop (92,248) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "I Had A Vision Of Love" is a truly awful title for an autobiography. It is too wordy and, whilst it is good as part of a song's lyrics where it blends in and fits the story, as a book title it just sounds overwhelmingly smug and egotistical. You won't find general people saying, "Have you read Mariah's new book 'I Had A Vision Of Love'?" It's a mouthful, it's clunky and does not roll off the tongue easily, at all. Mariah's creative peak has long since passed and I think she needs someone to stand up to some of her decisions and tell her they are not the stone winners she thinks they will be. Truth be told, the only success she has had in the last 10 years has been a song she wrote in 1994. I predict this book will be a self-promoting fest of mega saccharine porportions designed to only paint Mariah in a perfect light and it will not be self-analytical at all which would be yet another missed opportunity. If that is the case, along with the crap title and presumably airbrushed cartoon cover, it will, like Caution, bomb. And I agree that Madonna is seen as toxic to the non-stans and Mariah seen as the source of fun. I can accept that as true. But some sense of class must be maintained as someone being mocked as a source of fun for being a clown is never good. I think Mariah has endeared herself a lot more to the public recently but, as some royals are now finding out, that can easily be very quickly undone if you lose your sense of humility. (Friday 10 January 2020; 09:40)

Re: Mariah and sales (92,168) (92,202) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Someone once said something akin to that to me. "Whatever your mood, whatever you're feeling, whatever you're going through Mariah has a song for it." And that's the beauty of having a favourite artist that was one of the few that maintained longevity - and recorded so often. The catalogue is vast and the subject matter reasonably varied and the melodies reflective of most every feeling. So I agree that the sales figures become less important as you age and the music more so. At least it should. But some people just have to launch attacks in defence of a fake narrative no matter what the simple truths are. And, well, some people just never grow up. (Monday 6 January 2020; 22:32)

Re: Madonna accuses BBC of ageism (92,173) (92,201) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Maybe the article wasn't simple enough for you because you proved my point. If they don't give a record a shot and play it for the public to decide if it's a hit or not, how can they really say that their demographic doesn't like her music? She was 50 when 4 Minutes went number 1 in the UK. I'm sure they had no problems playing her then even though she was way beyond their demographic. Didn't you say in an earlier posts that age isn't a factor to older artists getting played yet you quoted my very point from the article that age is definitely a factor. Which is it? Don't switch up now." Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmm? (Monday 6 January 2020; 22:21)

Re: Mariah (92,161) (92,200) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Mariah outsold Eminem, nobody cares about his inflated sales that are non existing. Most sites says he sold over 170 million. Some even say 100 million since most of his sales can't even be found. Also most of them are streams or whatever. Same thing with Rihanna, she is in top 5 of best selling artists of all time. Let's not forget Mariah sold 1.6 billion units in Asia, those numbers aren't included in her counting, most of her albums haven't been certified since their releases. This year will be the year where Mariah certificate her own stuff." Sometimes when people post a lot of bullshit I like to digest it in parts and try to understand it, debate whether it has merit then rebut it with logic if its non-factual or just plain stupid. In this instance I can only take your entire post and simply say: "Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrm?" (Monday 6 January 2020; 22:17)

Re: I Had A Vision Of Love (92,146) (92,153) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I think Mariah's autobiography should be based upon positivity and not become another woe-is-me fest. She's done that and it's old. I think it should relate bad times but be spun positively and try to inspire people. The best autobiographies do, e.g., Richard Branson, Nelson Mandela (we_are_lambily - these are examples of "books"). Mariah is obviously very poetical and has written a plethora of insightful and inspiring songs, so the book should be like that. It should make young women strive to make something of themselves rather than listening to snowflakes tell them not to bother trying because they will always be held back. That was always her strongest message. She needs to look inside herself and find it again (ha). If the marketing of the book is simply "Mariah reveals shocking things about some people who did some stuff in the past - get the latest shock snippet here, folks" then it will turn people away from her. She has an opportunity to put out something as profound and inspiring as some of her songs. She should grasp that opportunity. "Looking In" is a good song, but rather depressing. "Prepare To Fly" - I'm telling ya, a stone winner. (Saturday 4 January 2020; 22:10)

Re: New album (92,145) (92,152) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "Depending on wheter [sic] you watch CNN or Fox News, you have two different mindsets." (You base your viewpoint on which news channel you have allegiance to? Read some books, kid.) "And the fact that he tried to dismiss the pay gap is laughable." (Read books? You can't even read posts. I referred to the fact that the majority of respected economists have debunked the politically-approved theory of the gender pay gap citing different choices man and women make. E.g. education, physicality of positions, years of experience, hours worked, not taking breaks to raise children, and so on. Seriously, read posts properly. And read some books.) "Mariah has nothing left to prove." (Vacant people like you often have stated this. And it's true. She doesn't have anything to prove but only if she doesn't want to sell records and concert tickets, again. If she does, then she absolutely has to prove herself worth the expense.) "[T]he fact that she is more successful than every male artist is enough for me." (Ugh. I believe Eminem has sold more than Mariah despite releasing his first song 9 years after VOL. Ed Sheeran has sold 3/4 of her sales despite releasing his first song under a decade ago. I believe this to be fairly accurate. But who care about accuracy around here?) (Saturday 4 January 2020; 21:59)

Re: Madonna accuses BBC of ageism (92,148) (92,151) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "The vast majority of people who like Madonna, who like her music now, are over 30 and frankly, we’ve moved on from Madonna.” Some people on this board are rather simple. Madonna is calling the radio station sexist. The point in this quote reiterates what I stated. The radio stations play to their demographics. If Madonna wants to throw around accusations of "-isms" I suggest she do it to British people between the ages of 16 and 30 (to whom the radio station is aimed). Because it is they who do not want to hear Madonna's awful new music. If they did, BBC Radio1 would play it. But Madonna won't do that. She hasn't got the balls. (Saturday 4 January 2020; 21:48)

Re: I Had A Vision Of Love (92,135) (92,140) by Andrew from the United Kingdom *** Preparing To Fly: Notes That Need To Be Sung A Memoir by Mariah Carey *** The title "Preparing To Fly" obviously references Butterfly. But it's also very self-help-y and positive. As is the byline, "Notes That Need To Be Sung" - obviously referencing music, but also the memoir being literal notes on momentous events in her life. That they "need to be sung" adds an air of intrigue as the stories have not yet been told but must be heard. It references Mariah's songs and music career, her desire to reveal truths as she sees them, but also suggests you can learn from her story yourself in a self-help manner. I swear I should be on Mariah's staff. Or perhaps just get some sleep. (Saturday 4 January 2020; 04:32)

Re: New album (92,133) (92,139) by Andrew from the United Kingdom "With You and A No No were... no We Belong Together or Shake It Off, but they were much better than and stood out from many of the songs that were released at that time." In your opinion. The majority of the music purchasing world disagreed with you. "A No No" was hardly anything special and, suffice is to say, Mariah has been rehashing her sound for a long time so I think the wider public does not care if Song X Part 7 is released. Parts 1 to 3 were fine and all paid for. "Besides, quality has always been more of a bonus than a prerequisite for a chart-topping song." I am almost certain you would not have said the same thing during the 90's when Mariah ruled the Hot 100. Or during TEOM. Nonsense. "But ageism still plays into this somehow." Instead of saying "somehow", explain *how*. I hope you do. But I have already read ahead and, well, you do not. "Cher's Believe... happened at a period when the listening public was more welcoming of artists in their 40s and 50s and hence were still able to chart more often than they can today." Really not worth the electricity it's beaming out of my screen on. People, for the most part, don't decide to become music artists and shoot for the big time in their mid to late life. They start out younger, bold, fresh and driven, and, if they reach success and don't throw it away or become jaded, and attain the financial prize of longevity, they reach their middle to later years having the luxury of being able to continue with output. I would say that is true of any era. There is nothing to show that this is any less true today than it was 20 years. Michael Buble sells reasonably well for an old timer in his, that's right, mid 40's. "The success of these hits..." All very interesting but not relevant and kind of muddled. "As for sexism, let's just throw in a bunch of random facts." Again, I've read ahead but I like your confidence in using the word "facts" at this point. "It's gonna be a more difficult road for a woman who isn't seen constantly near a piano or a guitar to be taken seriously." You have, I think changed 2 comparators instead of 1 which is, on the face of it, a manipulation of a debate. The question should be: is a woman who does not play an instrument viewed as less praiseworthy than a man who does not play an instrument? I see nothing to support this. "Men, on the other hand, are almost automatically assumed to write and produce their own material." I thought you were going to do "facts"? This is conjecture. Where is the evidence? Do you have results of a poll? "Very few women producers are ever awarded, let alone nominated for their work, and that's clearly not just because there are less of them than their male counterparts." "Facts", please? I do miss them. And logic, for that matter. For if there are significantly less members of group B than of group A and it is fairly assumed that talent is evenly distributed across both groups, it is axiomatic that more people in group A would be recognised and awarded than group B. You could question as to why group B is significantly smaller in number and debate whether or not attempting to bolster its membership would be realistic, necessary or productive but it's not relevant here. "But for every woman that makes it big, trust that there already is a 'man behind the woman' piece already written to help justify her success." Where are these "facts" you were going to talk of? This is just conjecture, again. And nonsensical, again. You can't just insert the word "trust" and think it makes something convincing. All artists' rises to the top are charted, discussed, broadcast and published to promote the artists' output and increase sales - often by the artists themselves. The public likes a backstory, whatever the backstory is. I would never have heard of Scooter Braun 10 years ago were it not for a young artist he discovered and pushed into stardom. Mariah's very first song was about her personal struggle. I believe she also had no shoes upon her feet. "The gender pay gap also exists in the music industry." If you read a lot of economists, they do not think it exists at all. "When it comes to the top players, the biggest record deals in history (upwards $150 million) are all signed by male artists." I seem to recall Mariah Carey once signing the biggest record deal of all time. Followed by Whitney Houston. Let's go for the most recent biggest signing: Adele signed a $130m record deal in 2016. Nobody has beaten that figure since. Madonna signed a $120m dollar deal in 2012 (and she's no spring chicken, despite drooling into the mouths of young men who were not even born when she was their age (would the press be so blasé were a 62yo man sleeping with a 25yo woman? I think not, and that is sexist, right?)). But higher than this you have the likes of Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z and U2. Were Bieber on the list I would be on your side. But to pick $150m dollars so that women just fell short of the mark smacks of playing games. "So if you still think that sexism and ageism are merely convenient excuses that fans of affected stars tell themselves to sleep at night, then sure, you're entitled to that opinion. That's what's true to you and that's all the validation you need." Validation? Has your thesaurus got a virus? Sexism and ageism naturally exist. Indeed, to name a male artist and say that he has only been, or would otherwise not have been, recognized over a particular woman because he is, or were he not, male, is, in itself, definitively sexist. It would need factual support or it would, to most moral standards, be morally unpraiseworthy. The issue is that claims of ageism and sexism are too often made without merit, are frequently based on hyperbole and can simply play fast and loose with truths. They seem to increasingly be made with convenience in petulant annoyance at things which are completely natural, and, as such, shouldn't be seen as issues. That is to say, some people like you and some people don't and, further, as you continue to age, young people tend not to want to associate themselves with you. Because you're not "cool" and they want people to whom they feel they can relate. Just like all the current older people did when they were younger. Just as your parents and their parents did. What is natural and not bothersome should not invoke a faux fury. "But you also can't fault the fans who notice and acknowledge the increasing evidence pointing to the contrary and that Mariah is not an exception to that." Evidence? Must have missed it. "This goes for any female artist out there who is past her prime, a former chart titan, and still doesn't get the credit she deserves in the music industry after all of her years in it." Mariah doesn't get credit? Oh, for the love of facts. To reiterate, and not to be too "reductive": the main radio stations are not "ageist" in any kind of morally reprehensible form of the word. They play the music younger people (or, if you will, the majority of the record buying public) will purchase - music from fresh new artists with new sounds and new ideas; artists who are, therefore, mostly young. And in 10 or 20 years time perhaps they'll be on websites dedicated to those artists the artist they have journeyed through all that time with, well into the early hours of the morning, bashing away at their keyboards, trying to convince the world it has gone totally mad. (Saturday 4 January 2020; 03:32)

Re: New album (92,103) (92,122) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Insightful. Think you're probably spot on. (Friday 3 January 2020; 19:39)

Re: New album (92,108) (92,121) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It's just propaganda ranted by the latest teenage stan who thinks that unrelenting and unending support that sinks into embellishment at best and lies at worse must be heard at all times. I've been reading the board for about 10 years and it is a constant truth that there is a childlike emotionally unstable and intellectually devoid propogandist present at all times. As soon as one exhausts themselves (or hopefully gets a grip) they disappear to be replaced by another. There have been so many. They come and go. (Friday 3 January 2020; 19:37)

Re: New album (92,095) (92,120) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I should do comedy about as much as you should do English comprehension, dear. If you reread my post I said that it was not the radio stations that were ageist for they only play what their listeners want to hear. It is primarily young people who listen to new music and new artists. Thus that music is played back to them. Case in point: this website is primarily (going from most of the representations made by the posters here) consumed by people in their 30s to 50s. Essentially living for an ageing artist long since past her prime. My parents only listen to artists mainly from their younger days in which their artists were in their prime. They listen to radio stations that play this music. Noteably, they are incredibly unlikely to purchase new music. That is fine and normal. They are not of bad character. They are not themselves "ageist". And nor are the stations playing the music they want to hear to them. Your sarcasm only serves to highlight a lack of intelligence and comprehension. I invite you to park your excitable emotions and take a more reasoned approach to life. (Friday 3 January 2020; 19:29)

Re: All My Life (92,081) (92,089) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Totally agree. It's a shame Loverboy just slightly missed the mark, but Glitter is great. Listening to it makes me nostalgic about 2001 when I was being nostalgic about the 80s. Quality. (Thursday 2 January 2020; 18:40)

Re: New album (92,071) (92,087) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The radio isn't ageist - stations play the music its demographics want to hear. If a station is popular among 18 to 30 year old it will plays artists popular with that age group. That Mariah is not is down to her output (or lack thereof) and the quality of output (or lack thereof). I do not believe it has anything to do with her age. Cher released a killer song in her later life and it was a global smash. But it helps you to think Mariah is a victim of everything around her. Like being a victim of sexism, as they claimed. She's the victim of sexism despite being one of the world best selling solo artists (most of whom are women), rich beyond belief, one of the most awarded artists ever, and so on. Total nonsense. If it helps people to cling to intersectionality when they don't get their own way then fine. It's pathetic but fine. But to do it on behalf of other people is just sad. Especially without any evidence. (Thursday 2 January 2020; 18:37)

Re: Fourth of July acapella 92,018) (92,023) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Here's something I have never noticed in all these years. The picture on that Fourth of July A Capella video is from the Butterfly photoshoot. Look at Mariah's eyes. The eye make up on each eye is a butterfly wing. (Sunday 29 December 2019; 18:17)

Re: Signature song (92,017) (92,022) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Whenever Mariah is in the tabloids, you will probably read this sentence or something of the like: "Spotted with the Always Be My Baby singer, 49, was..." Mariah is known for this song by many people and it was so for a long time. A signature anything is a product by which someone is identified (it doesnt just have to be by non-fans). I submit that the resurgence in the charts of AIWFCIY has meant younger people are more aware of Mariah than they otherwise would be. It was once thought that Mariah likely had several signature songs. But if it is now the case that one of them has accelerated and made the others like Hero etc. forgotten then so be it. I simply meant to offer that I do not want this to have happened. Being wheeled out once a year for schmaltz feels gimmicky. And Mariah was ever anything but a gimmick. (Sunday 29 December 2019; 18:10)

Re: Signature song (91,996) (92,015) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I think you may succumbing to unfairly downplaying the signifcance of something you just don't support. ABMB is known by almost everybody. I have done (murdered) it and seen it done (murdered worse) in karaoke many times over in the past decade. And it (almost without fail) makes everyone sit up, smile and sing along. People know it. To say it did not impact outside of the US is simply not true. I am pretty sure it debuted at Number 3 in the UK (this may not be accurate but I can't be arsed to check). So it's okay to prefer All I Want but other songs should not be downplayed. And, speaking of All I Want For Christmas is You, it is certainly genius. I didn't say it is not her signature song. I simply said I do not want it to be. Mariah risks turning herself into a gimmick wheeled out once a year to sing that tune. For her own sake she needs a hell of a lot of emphasis on her non-seasonal work. With Fantasy's inclusion in a new trailer, Daydream should really be pushed as a significant moment in musical history. As should Butterfly. Perhaps with concerts (in London, of course) singing those albums from start to finish. And I think Mariah should be trying to get headline gigs at festivals like Glastonbury. A career is for life, not just for Christmas. (Sunday 29 December 2019; 11:49)

Signature song (91,991) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I don't want it to be All I Want. It's annoying the hell out of me now. And it feels gimmicky. To me, it's Always Be My Baby. Everyone knows it. It's the perfect pop song. With the best arrangement. The best vocal. The best melody. The best lyrics. It's pure genius. The signature song. I'll sign it myself. (Friday 27 December 2019; 22:31)

Re: Finally number one in Germany (91,988) (91,989) by Andrew from the United Kingdom My fellow countrymen decided a song about sausage rolls was better than All I Want. I hang my head in shame. God Save The Queen. God save every queen. (Friday 27 December 2019; 21:58)

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