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About jaker20 from US:
You Will Never Be MC
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TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,773)
by jaker20 from US
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The timing is also wrong. It should be just before It's Time moment or immediately after the holidays. Her timeline is just so messed up.
(Monday 26 February 2024; 23:37)
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TEOM era will probably the last great era (105,770)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Rumor has it Mariah has some sort of release planned before her Vegas residency, if it's a "buzz single" I don't want it haha. All her "buzz singles" are dropped and forgotten within days. I would rather a proper era. Yes it won't be close to the TEOM era but with the right team and planning I hope we get a decent one.
(Monday 26 February 2024; 22:37)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,756)
by jaker20 from US
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It's definitely giving shot on [iPhone] low budget video. which is shocking because it was directed by Brett Ratner, who did some of her best videos ever. It's a great song and it deserved better.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 23:39)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,755)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh I wrote a post and then forgot to hit submit and it's now erased (if I did submit and this is a repeat my apologies) but yes that video was so random why was she on a beach crying and looking sexy? HATEU also isn't a song that you can really sing along too. LA was too stuck in his "upbeat" followed by "ballad" formula that worked for TEOM. But why not switch it up and do back to back up beats? I can't believe in a party record like E=MC2 he released "Bye Bye". After "Obsessed" a MTJF single with a few brand affiliations (since she name drops a lot of brands) shot in Italy would have been dope. Even if he wanted a slow song he could have gone with a BGK with a dark moody video. Instead we have Mariah crying on a beach.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 21:07)
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MC remix album (105,753)
by jaker20 from US
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She also had lot of remixes shelved on the MOAIA, the only one that survived was the Ne-Yo and Nicky Minaj, both of which turned out to be more popular than the originals and two that went to MIAMTEC. I agree about the #Beautiful remixes, I think there's about 3 out there and they all bops. I think this is where a good management comes in, Mariah can't broker these deals to put into an album nor create new ones obviously.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 18:52)
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MC remix album (105,668)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I would love a second remix album. Triumphant Vintage Mix, some of the Jump Smokers remixes from Angles Advocate, Big Energy, Yes, And?, Where I Belong with Busta, etc. I would love it on vinyl.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 16:58)
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Final Billboard placement for YAR (105,752)
by jaker20 from US
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We don't really know that 49% means that's also the portion of the remix compared to the original. That's just the overall increase of the total.
I would personally guess that the remix is already way above 50% of the total, if we consider that the remix has been stable on Spotify and way ahead of the OG on iTunes, and that the fact that the original has been freefalling in the past weeks before the remix was released. Like you said before, it's up to Billboard.
This is another situation where Mariah boosted a song, like BER, but didn't get credit. Do we want a top 10 credit? Sure. But all things considered, this is absolutely great news, not bad.
I don't remember the last time a song went back up to the top 10 after it's nearly out of the top 40 because of a remix. Without the remix the OG would have completely dropped out already.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 18:27)
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Final Billboard placement for YAR (105,749)
by T from USA
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I'm gutted. It did even better than I thought and still missed the top 10 by one spot. It increased 49% from the previous week. One percentage point away from a Mariah credit. Didn't you wonder why her Instagram story she uploaded a short clip of her singing the song in the middle of the week? She badly wanted to get into the top 10 again. She missed it by one spot. I know the lambs and Ari fans contributed to the raise out of curiosity. But I also know after the initial buzz the fans really let them down. Had everyone kept up the momentum for a whole week, MC would be celebrating a new top ten hit in the thirty fourth year of her career. So close.
(Sunday 25 February 2024; 14:46)
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New album (105,714)
by jaker20 from US
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Probably. But I wonder how that would impact the Merry Christmas 30th anniversary. I wouldn't be surprised if she's got a lot lined up for that. But then, maybe she would surprise us. I actually think it works, get it swept up by her Christmas buzz.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:14)
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New album (105,709)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I feel today that MC is going to wait until the Taylor and Dua release their albums first. We are probably looking at August or September now.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:22)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,713)
by jaker20 from US
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I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm not disagreeing with you. Oh well. Bye I guess.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 16:01)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,705)
by TJ from Norway
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I do not agree with you, but then again, it's only opinions. You sit on yours, and I have mine. I have been a fan since 1990, but I don't love every project she has done, but am still here. I call that a real fan, even if you disagree.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 12:09)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,712)
by jaker20 from US
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You're framing it in a negative way, while I see it in a positive way. Slow down on being so negative. And also, the right word is "rebound", not jump up. Very different word connotation.
The song would have been out of the top 40, it was on its way down. Not a lot of songs have that kind of chart trajectory. And that is credit to Mariah's name.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 15:56)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,706)
by T from USA
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The song jumped up from #31 to #12 this coming week. Two spots away from a top ten. Mariah wont be credited. Pop Mariah is no more.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 13:10)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,711)
by jaker20 from US
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This is all lambs' work. The song was already freefalling until Mariah stepped in. It was assured to leave the top 40 this week, and Ariana's album won't come out until after another 2 weeks. That would have been an absolute disaster for her. This proves again that Mariah still have a huge pull in the charts.
Mariah now and Mariah pre-2019, which was before AIWFCIY went to number 1, have very different commercially appeal. Caution was released in 2018 just didn't catch her Christmas spark.
Mariah should capitalize on it every year and release every January, like something, anything. She's the only one who has an annual buzz but she's wasting it with remixes. That said, she did get 5 million new listerers in a week.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 15:54)
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Yes, and remix ends up at #12 on Hot 100 (105,710)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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Ariana's team waited 4 weeks too late to release the remix. It seems like somebody on her team really didn't think the remix was good enough to release a week after the original and make a video. I hope MC is able to get her own high profile collaboration out this year. I would love a SZA and Summer Walker collaboration just like Whitney ft. Faith Evans and Kelly Price on Heartbreak Hotel. It's going to be interesting what happens with MC16 before the AIWFCIY season starts.
(Saturday 24 February 2024; 14:31)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,696)
by jaker20 from US
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Yes. The message is that there's real fans who will be there through thick and thin. And there's fans who are only fans if their fave is doing well and then abandon them if they're not. They're toxic success-stans.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 21:23)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,683)
by TJ from Norway
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So a fan who is still there after let's say 30 years plus, but doesn't like everything she does, isn't a real fan? Did I read your message wrong? I have to ask.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 14:56)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,677)
by jaker20 from US
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You should see what Arianators are telling Ariana. In fandom, there's always 2 types: true fans who will be there through it all. And success-stans who's only there to live vicariously through the celebrity success.
(Friday 23 February 2024; 02:08)
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I hope Mariah never releases anything anymore (105,674)
by JC from United States
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This is suppose to be a Mariah fan board, all I've seen is negative uncalled for opinions on Mariah and her voice, you guys think she's a robot? I recently saw a video of twitter spaces, some lamb had the balls to tell Mariah that every time she performs the lambs wonder if she will hit a g7 or how high she will go. Meanwhile this lamb works at Burger King but thinks he knows everything about her voice. I noticed this was her last time on twitter spaces. You guys are ruining this for her, y'all don't know anything about her voice or what's going on, have some respect for the woman who supposedly you say saved your life with her music. I really hope she doesn't release anything new. Why would she? Just for you guys to disect and judge her voice condition. I used to love this board, before all the lambs became vocal teachers.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 23:19)
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This is what we asked for (105,673)
by jaker20 from US
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I don't think she's going to be credited but iId like to be surprised lol. This is just a cute little remix like BER that she barely spent time on. It's the lambs that are hungry for new materials, to the point of embracing an AI version of a flop JT song.
I'm guessing it's going to be close. But it's going to be up to Billboard, they're not going to release the split of numbers.
I think Mariah should already be credited. The remix helped Ariana until her album is released, and the original would have dropped out of the top 30, most likely worse, and that would have been a disaster for her. There's so much is riding on Ariana on this release.
Either way, I just like that Mariah is collaborating with her and new artists. She should do this more often, regardless of chart results.
(Thursday 22 February 2024; 21:05)
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This is what we asked for (105,647)
by T from USA
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Sometimes it's not about what you want. Mariah isn't a puppet that you can control the strings to. If you don't understand what a Top 10 hit on Billboard would mean for Mariah then you really don't know Mariah. Because she's always chosen hits and charts above anything else. I believe deep down inside she's a real musician, a soul artist, but she's very much driven by success. It's the American way. If you want more Mariah you have to give her incentive. Stream and buy.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 17:45)
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MC remix album (105,650)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm sure this is going to cause a stir here, but I'm here for it. Like a vol 2 of her OG remix album, and add in new ones and new collabs. Mariah's now done 2 remixes and they're both bops, and it seems like an easy releases for her hardly lifting a finger lol, meanwhile her album is taking forever. Don't come at me, it's just an idea. What do you all think?
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 20:16)
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General public or bad decisions (105,625)
by jaker20 from US
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No amount of no.1s is worth her sanity. That's not a bad decision, if anything she saved herself, and gave us Butterfly. Look what's happened to some popstars who never recovered and never regained their sanity.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:21)
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General public or bad decisions (105,624)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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MC lost her magic when she stopped collaborating with Walter A. She might have 26 #1 songs now if the two never stopped collaborating. That was a bad decision she has paid dearly for.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 01:10)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,621)
by jaker20 from US
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Tracking isn't done yet. That's for prior week.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:57)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,620)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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It didn't make the top 10 this week. The original is down to #21.
(Wednesday 21 February 2024; 00:35)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,613)
by jaker20 from US
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We don't know. It's going to be very very close. The remix should have more points than the original for her to get credit. Both versions together, it is at no.11 and went +49%. Assuming the original dropped like it did last week, then the remix portion of that should be more than 50% already, giving Mariah credit at this point already. There is no way the original went up after the remix is released, unless there is some shady stuff going on behind the scenes. The 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team complicates it slightly, but it's not doing any numbers currently.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 17:43)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,608)
by Tevin from USA
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Ok so I'm confused, if the OG reaches the top ten, does Mariah get credit or no? Some people say yes, some say no. I'm confused, how does this all work? How can a remix overtake an OG song?
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 15:30)
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It just occured to me (105,606)
by jaker20 from US
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It was the lambs who got it to rise that high. It's patently confirmed math. It had a huge drop last week, and then rose 49% this week. This is all lambs' work. That's just math. Its also confirmed that on the same day that these numbers came out, they released 3 new remixes. They just want all the numbers but they don't want her be credited. It would be hilarious if she still manage to squeak by lol. I guess we'll find out in the next few days.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 15:13)
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It just occured to me (105,596)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I am hearing that YA OG has now climbed to the top 10 and no one can tell me the lambs didn't have a hand in getting it there by purchasing/streaming the remix, just like what the lambs did for BER, but looks like MC is not getting the credit once again.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:46)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,604)
by jaker20 from US
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Its seems like it's now just 1%. It's going to be very close to get her credited. That 3 new remixes released by Ariana's team was very very trashy behavior on the same day they found out that its going to be close.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 15:05)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,601)
by T from USA
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If you download the iTunes app. Or on your computer go to the iTunes website, you can purchase the song for a dollar. You have to put in your credit card number. The song will automatically go into a folder in your iTunes app called "my library". It's really simple if you try. You can also buy it from Amazon, just make sure it's the remix version. It's right on the edge of being #11 on the Hot 100, and being #10. Predictions have it at #11 missing the top 10 by literally one point. So we can push the needle today with more sales, more streams. Today's the day. Go get em.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 13:56)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,593)
by jaker20 from US
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It is down to the wire.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 01:10)
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Yes, And so close to top 10. Now or never (105,591)
by T from USA
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Billboard Hot 100 predictions are hot of the press and it looks like the remix has pushed the song to #11 on the Hot 100. Only one point from the top 10. It's also gained 48% since last week. Over 50% gains will get Mariah a credit. It would also give it the top 10 spot. So USA fans need to buy this, now, stream it like never before. Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Amazon, iTunes. Remember with streaming you have to switch songs in between for each individual streaming to count. But if it picks up a little more in the next two days Mariah could actually have a hit on her hands. It's now or never.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)
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It just occured to me (105,592)
by jaker20 from US
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"Ariana stans aren't 100% on board with the song itself." I'm referring of course to the Yes, And original version.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:22)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)
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It just occured to me (105,590)
by jaker20 from US
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From what I am reading, Ariana stans aren't 100% on board with the song itself. If lambs had high expectations for MC, imagine their expectations for Ariana who is supposed to be a more current of an artist and had been gone for a long time. They expect Ariana to give Taylor a run for her money and this is just not it.
So that's the whirlwind of negativity that Mariah's hopping into. Not to mention the cheating and homewrecker allegations.
Lambs should just enjoy the song and not get involved in that mess lol. It's not yet taking off, but I think it's a good addition to Mariah's remix catalog.
Like I said, I think Mariah did it just to return a favor, dipped her toes, but didn't completely jump in.
(Tuesday 20 February 2024; 00:20)
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by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ugh unfortunately. In 2018 I didn't even think they'd ever collaborate. Forget #1 at this point, I was hoping for a good chart placement, but it looks like Ariana's team has abandoned ship, because they're releasing new remixes of the OG version and I haven't seen a single new post promoting the collaboration since Day 1. I feel like the excitement was definitely there when they announced, but a few things lead to it just being another missed opportunity. (1) Ariana's current reputation of a homewrecker and yes, and? being taken as a "I'm a home wrecker, yes, and?" (2) People not feeling Mariah belting. (3) There wasn't much promo after first day. (4) Mariah doesn't have much streaming pull and the song would have been dependent on Ariana's huge streaming pull, but Ariana is going through a slump. (5) People thinking this song isn't Mariah's type. (6) The song had already peaked and was free falling, so hopping on the remix didn't really make the "shock" impact of the MC-AG that their teams were hoping for. Makes me sad that it looks like all MC's new eras are staying relevant for like what on average 24 hours. I feel like a few live performances, little videos of why they collaborated or how they landed on this song to collab and all would have added to the hype, also of course a replayable MV. But I guess that's a wrap. I was reading somewhere that they messaged a radio station regarding why the station was playing the remix instead of the original, but the station said they weren't sent the remix. So honestly it's just sad that these era's are getting shorter with every release.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 21:50)
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by jaker20 from US
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That Mariah just had a collab with Ariana, and it's a remix. A 2018 me would think that if they ever work together, it's going to be the biggest news of the year, it's going to be an event, it's going be their song together and not one or the other just hopping in, and it'll debut at no.1 based on their names alone, whatever the quality of the song. Now that moment is gone. It cannot be repeated.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 20:37)
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Writing (105,581)
by jaker20 from US
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For the record, Mariah has written a bunch of songs for Allure and Trey Lorenz. I agree though, she should do it more often.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 20:28)
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Writing (105,578)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
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I would for MC to form a new R&B girl group that she sets on the road to stardom using her 30 plus years in the music industry. They have to be in their early 20s so that they will listen to MC's guidance and expertise.
(Monday 19 February 2024; 19:02)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,551)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm personally more for not censoring the artist and let Mariah do what she wants. Artists are supposed to express themselves and at this point of Mariah's career, thinking if she should cuss or not should be the least of her concerns.
Mariah, the person, has so many facets and it would be great to see those sides of her, and not write again about when your hero will come along to cast your fears aside or if its supposed to be for people who lost their grandmothers. I love them, I absolutely love those songs. But telling her not to use some lame cuss word in a song which is censored anyway because it might terrify the kids is being extra gatekeeping imo.
And let me remind she's barely released anything anymore, like at all, and hopefully it's not because she cares way too much about what others will say to the point of dropping ideas each time. In fact, I would to argue that it was GTFO and Caution are the highlights in terms of depth that lit her late 2010s career revival.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 22:20)
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Yes, And? lyrics (105,545)
by Tevin from USA
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Sorry I don't agree with you. Some people like listening to songs around their young children. One of the reasons why I became a fan of Mariah was because my parents used to play her music all the time around me as I grew up. If she cussed up a storm back in the 90s and early 2000s, my parents would not have played her music around me and guess what, I probably would not have become a fan.
My point is, it's easy to look at it through adults eyes, but some people may not like to play explicit lyrics around their kids. Also (this isn't always the case), but I find more and more in today's music that lyrical content has become so lazy now that cussing and other explicitness can be freely said in music. There's one thing to have a strong emotion behind a song to use a cus word, there's a completely different reason to just be lazy and throw in words here and there, because you formulate a strong thought or emotion into a lyric. Basically what I'm saying is that many popular songs have lost their depth.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:25)
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Let's get it to number one (105,547)
by jaker20 from US
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I heard the Yes, And remix the other day. It was their big "new music this week" with a drumroll announcement. Don't be surprised if it gains some traction on radio, especially on the club radio stations.
But expecting it to go to number one is too much to ask. I feel like it was just Mariah returning a favor to Ariana for appearing on stage with her and JHud last Christmas, and nothing more. They seem to enjoy each other and that's great to see.
I just hope Mariah is more consistent with her releases. There is some buzz right now. She should have a follow up in 3 to 4 weeks, the same way that she should have a follow up immediately after BER blew up, and the same way she should have a follow up every Christmas on January.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:42)
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Let's get it to number one (105,538)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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The local radio played Beys "Texas hold em" yesterday. The clean version. The radio presenter was praising the song. I think the song really works for the radio. With "yes and" I'm not so sure. It's interesting to read your thoughts about the airplay for "yes and the remix". Can someone post a (US) chart position for next week?
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 10:35)
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Yes, and? better promo strategy (105,546)
by jaker20 from US
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I agree. The song already hit number, and was already on its way down. Mariah made it a better song, but she cannot save it on the charts. It's too late. I agree with you, if the remix was the original version, it would have been bigger.
Lambs should just enjoy it for what it is, and it should not always be attached to chart position. In 2 days since it was released, Mariah gained 2 million listeners. So it helps her in some other way.
I actually think it will get better airplay over the next few weeks than the original. It might even be a club hit. It's a real bop. But expecting it to be number one is too much to ask. Already, some lambs are trashing it on twitter, because it didn't hit number one on iTunes. Like why does everything have to be attached to the charts. It gives us something to enjoy until the album arrives, so just enjoy it for what it is.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 18:26)
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Yes, and? better promo strategy (105,536)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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For me the remix is way too late to be released. If they have made the remix as the main version, I think this will blow out of proportions and stay at number 1 for 2-4 weeks lol. But yeah charting or nah, the song is good for me since it's fresh, uptempo and belty Mariah I have been longing for a decade. Pre chorus made me in shambles as I thought it was Ariana but Mariah came neck in neck with her.
(Sunday 18 February 2024; 05:56)
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