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Name: jaker20
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Christmas collabs (104,480) by jaker20 from US
(Saturday 9 December 2023; 04:32)
Apparently, Mariah will (rumor) bring out JHud and Ariana in MSG. But to me, this collab isn't doing the song any favors. Their voices don't blend well. Well, Ariana and Mariah's voice blends a bit, but JHud, bless her, doesn't.

So got me thinking: who should Mariah collab next? How about Darelene Love or Brenda Lee, in the form of mashup. It's not like Mariah, Ariana and JHud all showed up on the studio.

I actually really really like Mariah's live duet with Michael Buble. I thought their voices blend so very well together. And I don't hate her duet with Justin Bieber, either.

So it sounds like Mariah's best duets are with the male artists. I can't wait for Mariah/Usher being together again.
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Mimi send Brenda flowers (104,455) by jaker20 from US
(Thursday 7 December 2023; 21:18)
That just goes to show what kind of hear Mariah has. She is all about the spirit of the season.
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MC diamonds (104,454) by jaker20 from US
(Thursday 7 December 2023; 21:17)
It is eligible for certification. Next year could be a big year for MC on the album's 30th anniversary. MC should do something and stop playing.

The way I see it is, to drum up excitement, release an album Caution 2.0 level of excellence, do a big push the debut album, both leading up to the 30th anniversary of legendary album. Which would give her 4 diamond albums.
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Number one (104,453) by jaker20 from US
(Thursday 7 December 2023; 21:16)
Now you're making stuff up. That's cute, but I was the one who said before the season even started that Mariah might not reach no.1 this season because Brenda's label is aggressive this year. While you said labels have no impact lol.
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This is a reply to message 104,448 by Edward from USA
(Thursday 7 December 2023; 02:51)
MC's sold out Chicago show (104,442) by jaker20 from US
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 23:02)
I'm actually really surprised by the turnout this season. I mean not surprised because I'm happy for her, but this just goes to show that Christmas season is getting bigger and bigger for Mariah.
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This is a reply to message 104,422 by Chicago Lamb from USA
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 12:37)
Number one (104,441) by jaker20 from US
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 21:33)
Yep, thanks for posting. That's literally what I meant by my last post. When it's a close race, all these little things matter. And Brenda's team did due diligence and actually worked those promo games. Mariah's team did nothing this year and released nothing new. So in a way Brenda deserves it.

By the way, I re-watched Mimi's AppleTV+ Christmas thingy from a couple of years ago. Not many saw it, but my niece loved it. Oh look Mariah has legs and arms and they're moving. She looks happy and animated. It's amazing how just a couple of years has changed for her.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid (our resident annoying cute friend Edward here thinks I am). But I think Mariah is distracted.The lack of new projects or any release this season make me think that Tanaka is still in her mind. That story isn't finished. That's just what I think.

Anyway, these jealous haters celebrating on twitter when their faves don't even have a classic like AIWFC. It's on its way to becoming the biggest of all time, while their faves don't even have a song the charted in decades.
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This is a reply to message 104,438 by enwar00 from usa
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 19:15)
Number one (104,436) by jaker20 from US
(Wednesday 6 December 2023; 17:25)
It can't just be this one song. It's everything else, the little things that helps and matters. Two years ago she had had that AppleTV+ thingy with Jhud and Ariana, and then the year later the second special with Khalid and Kirk. They're cute little songs here and there, not huge hits, but they contribute. All these little things helps. It can't just be this one song. She has all year to prepare, but has no new visuals nor project this year.

I always say that Caution paved the way to AIWFC's massive resurgence. The album was not a huge hit, but it gained her a whole new young fans which contributed to a whole lot.

Next year I expect the new album. And then a bunch of new videos, maybe for Miss You Most At Christmas, like a real video with a classy intriguing story, not those cheap $10 videos.

Good for Brenda, but I'm sorry but her song is just awful. It's neither here nor there. But good for her, her team is outsmarting Mariah's.
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This is a reply to message 104,426 by Andrew from the UK
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 20:28)
Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,412) by jaker20 from US
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 01:28)
Yes and then you went into a litany of what she and her label is doing. You literally posted that on Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51. Lol. I'm sorry I just think you're funny. Ok I'll stop now.
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This is a reply to message 104,406 by Edward from USA
(Tuesday 5 December 2023; 00:17)
Rockin' Around #1 (104,403) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:29)
I need Wham's Last Christmas to go no.1 at some point too. Michael deserves it.
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This is a reply to message 104,401 by Edward from USA
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:20)
Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,402) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:24)
"Brenda didn't write RATCT, she basically doesn't profit much from it."

"Who has been boycotting that frail old lady Brenda for four years now?"

Then its entire possible that she's over this and these aren't fully her doing. Business people are profiting off of her. Aka labels and industry people.
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This is a reply to message 104,399 by Edward from USA
(Monday 4 December 2023; 21:23)
Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,400) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:07)
I think you need to calm down. Now you're backpedaling again lol. You said the music industry don't have a say, then you say they kind of do. lol. Come out and be real now.
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This is a reply to message 104,399 by Edward from USA
(Monday 4 December 2023; 21:23)
Miss You Most (At Christmas) (104,396) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 19:51)
I'm thinking Mariah walking on the streets of Paris like that Say Somethin' video but less sexy. But Mariah's Christmas image is festive so I don't know if she'll be up for it. But look at Last Christmas, which is a sad song.
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This is a reply to message 104,387 by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 06:02)
Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,395) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 19:02)
Pedro's post isn't paranoia, is it actually true. I'm not sure you fulling understand how it works. A few days ago, you said labels have no control, and I explained to you how that is not true.

Labels can influence placement on playlists through Discovery Mode. It is a feature for artists which is some kind of digital payola, where labels received reduced royalty in exchange for prioritized placement. It is not pay by play, but if you understand algorithms, it is very effective.

The placement of a song in a playlist with millions of users is very consequential. Im not sure why you're comparing it to you playlist lol. They are not the same. Regular users normally plays a playlist pushed to them by the app, and then stop at a certain point. So makes a massive difference.

So the past few weeks, Mariah has not been added on some of the biggest curated playlists, until recently. Brenda's song has been on playlists mentioned below that often doesn't even have to do with Christmas. And that already works against Mariah in terms of boost from algorithms. It has a slower headstart.

Like I said, Brenda's team has been aggressive this year and we give them that credit. Mariah's hasn't, probably they felt they didn't need it which I think is a mistake.
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This is a reply to message 104,392 by Edward from USA
(Monday 4 December 2023; 15:55)
Miss You Most (At Christmas) (104,387) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 4 December 2023; 06:02)
It gives me the feels the classic feels. I think this song deserves a proper video. One that has a story, similar to Wham's Last Christmas. Same with "When Christmas Comes". Both are original MC Christmas songs too.
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We lost the #1 (104,371) by jaker20 from US
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 18:19)
Spotify US has around 45M users, while Apple has around 30. There's also a tiered system in Billboard where ad supported streams are counted, even though they are given lesser points, but Spotify ad supported subs is more than double their paid subscribers. That's been the case for many years now.
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This is a reply to message 104,369 by Edward from USA
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:36)
Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,366) by jaker20 from US
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46)
What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber.
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We lost the #1 (104,365) by jaker20 from US
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:39)
I'm not so sure. Brenda's team have lined up an aggressive campaign this season and in the coming weeks. Spotify is on Brenda's side. Brenda's team is playing bunch of playlist gamifications this year. She's at the top of some of the biggest playlists on Spotify currently. For example, I just saw that they removed Mariah on that large "Christmas Is Coming" playlist with millions of users, and they just added her yesterday lol. That is just one.

Artists can deal with Spotify for higher playlisting and other algo boosts for lower pay royalty. This is perfectly legal by the way. So Mariah can be at the top in all other streaming platforms. But Spotify is where the geming is on. If Mariah does these she would be criticized lol. That's the problem with being at the top.
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This is a reply to message 104,363 by Zachariah from Croatia
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 14:31)
Mariah vs Brenda (104,344) by jaker20 from US
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:51)
I'm responding to your post about you saying "the music industry does not have much control over anything anymore" which is incorrect. And everything you explained contradicted yourself.
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This is a reply to message 104,341 by Edward from USA
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:51)
Mariah vs Brenda (104,337) by jaker20 from US
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:17)
Everyone's jealous. That's all it is. Yes, Mariah's resurgent success has triggered a lot of people, even fans of more current pop girls. Labels, music media, execs, artists, industry people. They are seething. That's how you know that she’s doing something right.

Mariah [has] the best career. Having dominated an era. And then after her peak, comes a classic that will outlast everyone. No one has that combo, not Elvis, not The Beatles, not anyone. That's triggered a lot of people, the media, labels, execs, artists, industry people. Because that pushes her career above and beyond.

I think with her 18th no.1 15 years ago, she got a bit scared about actually beating [The Beatles]. Everyone's coming after her. I think she was unsure if she wanted it. But after AIWFCIY, she actually realized it's very achievable, and if she does the world won't implode. And if she doesn't, someone else will. I think Taylor will attempt it.

But I don't think Mimi cares about her critics anymore. She seems like she's just enjoying all of the icings on the cake.

As for Darlene, I was hoping that they would collab for Christmas BPCH. I was so sure it would be a classic.
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This is a reply to message 104,329 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 14:05)
Mariah vs Brenda (104,336) by jaker20 from US
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:15)
Um Spotify has its own version of digital payola, with reduced royalties for some kind algorithmic boost via playlists. And Brenda's team have been very aggressive this year, having multiple versions included in playlists and having it strangest playlists like pop and teen playlists. These are Spotify curated playlists.
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This is a reply to message 104,333 by Edward from USA
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 17:48)
Would you rather (104,290) by jaker20 from US
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:47)
Brand new album. That is how she stays relevant. Even if it's not a blockbuster hit, a good album is a good album, and it eventually reaches new fans. That is what happened to Caution, its impact was slow burn.

And in my opinion, it set the stage for the smashing return of AIWFCIY in 2018/2019. She needs to go back to releasing albums. That's her starter pack for the new gen to her classics.
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This is a reply to message 104,264 by Tevin from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 18:50)
Who is Jack Harlow? (104,251) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 27 November 2023; 21:31)
He also had a big no.1 hit last year with First Class which heavily samples Glamorous by Fergie, who imo, like Mariah in BE got screwed over and due to a bunch of technicalities did not get credited.
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This is a reply to message 104,233 by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 12:53)
Amy Grant album Heart In Motion (104,250) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 27 November 2023; 21:26)
What a great album. All the while I was thinking, maybe this is the direction that Mariah should take? Midtempo songs that are pop but have a classic sound to them. Light bops and not too serious, it reminds me of a bunch of pop songs that all sounds like Always Be My Baby.
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AIWFCIY (104,249) by jaker20 from US
(Monday 27 November 2023; 20:59)
Is now 50th biggest hit ever in BB charts. It will continue to climb in the next couple of weeks and enter top 40, becoming MC's 3rd in the chart, after OSD and WBT. By the end of this season it could be the 15th biggest hit ever, surpassing The Beatles' Hey Jude. Needless to say, next year will be big huge year for Mariah, with the MC album's 30th anniversary.
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Mariah now most streamed female on Apple Music (104,208) by jaker20 from US
(Friday 24 November 2023; 18:00)
This is why she will never give up on Christmas. It rubs off on her entire catalog.
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