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Rockin' Around (Spotify position) (104,405)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 4 December 2023; 23:40) | | |
This article tells the story of UMG's aggressive marketing strategies this Christmas season.  |
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This is a reply to message 104,392 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 4 December 2023; 15:55) | | |
| That's not boycott or illegal. You don't have to listen to those playlists. Most people have their own playlists anyway, and Spotify is not the only streaming platform. Brenda wasn't at the top of some of those playlists before. Was she being boycotted since AIWFCIY hit number one? I thought we had moved on from the paranoia lambs tend to have about some mega powerful entity coming for Mariah. AIWFIY and RATCT are the Christmas hits they are because millions of people love them and got them there. You can discount, you can gift, you can pray, you can throw a lambtrum, but all that won't make a song popular or hit if people don't like it. |
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Rockin' Around #1 (104,404)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 4 December 2023; 23:04) | | |
| I just cant believe this has happened. However, we saw it coming this past weekend. |
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This is a reply to message 104,401 by
Edward from USA
(Monday 4 December 2023; 22:20) | | |
| Let's be happy for Brenda. Mariah will be number one again eventually. Other songs have been gaining popularity too. |
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A look back at 2023 (104,382)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 21:20) | | |
| Dahling, don't take me so seriously on here. I am just having a little bit of fun. It was Heather Locklear's billing status on Melrose Place that I am referencing. There is room for you before me anytime. Lol. |
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This is a reply to message 104,379 by
Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 20:24) | | |
What is "special guest star status" (I ask with a due sense of exhaustion and dread)? I've posted on this board hundreds, if not thousands, of times.
Chill out. You get a tad cringe, now and then. But mostly now. And always then. |
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Emotions formula (104,377)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 20:03) | | |
| Carole King was determined to work with MC after she declined to cover YMMFLANW. So, she flew out to New York anyway and If It's Over was born. I love the highs and lows of her vocal delivery and orgasmic climax is unbelievable and breathtaking both live and on the album. Just one more song like this would garner her 20th number one. This time let's get Sia or ILYA and Ryan Tedder to fly out New York and create a masterpiece. |
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This is a reply to message 104,346 by
Andrew from United Kingdom
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 22:17) | | |
| Let's remind ourselves what weak certainly does not look like. |
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Oh Santa original vs JHud/Ariana version (104,370)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 17:56) | | |
| I have always thought MC did the collaboration with Ariana and JHud just for a cute festive moment to promote the Apple Music special. They probably recorded their parts separately in different studios and sent it to MC. I don't think the collaboration made the final cut for the special. I never watched the special all the way through because I cringed how thin sounding her voice was on the songs. |
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This is a reply to message 104,366 by
jaker20 from US
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 15:46) | | |
| What's everyone's opinion on this? It's interesting that the JHud/Ariana collab didn't do much to the song. I personally thought their voices didn't blend so well, and there's no chemistry between them on the video. It wasn't cute or engaging. But we said the same with the AIWFCIY collab with Bieber. |
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A look back at 2023 (104,367)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 16:07) | | |
Hello Eric. Thank you for all that you do to keep the board going strong all of these years. I noticed that you were still posting until 9pm Eastern time last night. Usually the last post is 6pm Eastern. Thank you for keeping the hot topic of "We lost #1" going way into the night. It was a fun way to end the night.
And what a year it has been for topics on the board. Can you think about posting on New Year's Eve the top 15 topics of 2023 with the most replies and likes? Just this November and December alone, I know Mariah vs. Brenda, We lost #1, and Emotions formula will make the list. Also, can you post the top posters for 2023? Andrew returned back in August (or was it September?) and tried to take my special guest star status. Lol. |
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If Mariah likes it, then I like it (104,357)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 12:55) | | |
| She has always praised Stevie Wonder. I have a huge Stevie Wonder collection. Everytime that I hear That Girl, I think of MC. |
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This is a reply to message 104,352 by
Libra Lamb from USA
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 10:07) | | |
What are some things that some of you have done because you saw Mariah did or liked? I have a few so I'll go first. When Mariah listed Four Christmases as one of her favorite Holiday movies I had to watch it even though I don't care much for Reese Witherspoon or Vince Vaughn. It was an okay movie. Also I bought her AIWFCIY plushie after I saw hers on her mantle or something like that on one of her social media posts. It was so fetch.  |
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We lost the #1 (104,350)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:45) | | |
Wow. We certainly did she this happening two weeks ago. If MC had done some special with AIWFCIY this year like a duet with Kelly Clarkson, she would have had nothing to worry about. I wish she would collaborate with other artists like she used to do. The next four weeks are going to be an intense battle for the top spot. And Tyla, water girl just dropped her new song On and On. She could take the streams away too from both songs by New Year's Eve.  |
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This is a reply to message 104,349 by
Edward from USA
(Sunday 3 December 2023; 03:26) | | |
| If that's the case, I'm happy for her. Let's not forget it's a prediction, even though they're usually right. We still have Saturday to count. |
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Emotions formula (104,342)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 21:20) | | |
| MC was going for a more polished than over-produced second album. I think that she accomplished that. Tommy probably was not too happy with the end result and album sales. I am sure he told MC after MTV Unplugged that she needs a huge pop album for her third album. Hence, Music Box was created and fulfilled Tommy's desires. Her creativity just got better and better after MB. She better bring it with MC16. |
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This is a reply to message 104,340 by
Jamie from UK
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:49) | | |
| [If it's over] weak. I think not. |
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,339)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 20:47) | | |
| I understand now. Oh well, it's going to be a victory or a sad day Tuesday. |
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This is a reply to message 104,333 by
Edward from USA
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 17:48) | | |
| Robert-Anthony, the music industry doesn't have much control over anything anymore. The music industry as we knew it, it's forever gone. They can't influence streaming platforms to block users from playing the music they like, radio just goes along with what's trending or they stay out of the game. Fans have more control, instead of calling like crazy to request, we just go and stream, everything is way different. As I have stated, these two songs have legs of their own, the one that makes it to number one will be based on its own merit and promotional push on big events. AIWFCIY is a pure number 1, people keep buying it after all these years, they keep playing it and streaming it, no gimmicks. If Mariah really wanted, she could break The Beatles' record, just three great collabs with Drake, Ariana and Taylor Swift should take her there. I don't really care for that record though, the way things are, Taylor will eventually top them both. |
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,329)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 14:05) | | |
| The music business isn't a sweet easy going industry. Every artist will tell you that including sweet Dolly Parton. Record executives aren't playing nice when they are promoting a song to get it to number #1. There are some underhanded strategies being done behind the scenes to make it happen at the UMG executive offices. If RATCT goes to number #1, a huge television media frenzy will be made about it that week. Just my two cents from Texas. |
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This is a reply to message 104,327 by
The Real Deal from USA
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 13:40) | | |
| What in the actual [censored]? It's not a conspiracy. It's called marketing a song that's already popular and trying to get it to #1. The same way Mariah markets AIWFCIY every year is no different then Brenda Lee putting out a music video for her song. Um, didn't MC make 4 videos for AIWFCIY? And whoever wrote the message "now that they slapped a blonde wig on Brenda" - are you serious? Stop trying to make a conspiracy out of everything when there is none. |
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,326)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 13:33) | | |
| It's the tad sprinkle of the wall of sound and rockabilly country influences combined that made it a popular Christmas song. |
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This is a reply to message 104,325 by
Edward from USA
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 12:54) | | |
| I have no idea when or why it happened. There are many other great Christmas songs way better than it. The first time I listened to it was last year because she made it to the second spot. For me it is just a very basic song, that's all. I don't hate it, just don't care for it. |
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Mariah vs Brenda (104,318)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Saturday 2 December 2023; 00:13) | | |
Thanks for the update, Edward. Seems like there is a considerable effort this year to keep MC from getting to number one or staying number one for multiple weeks this year. UMG is Brenda Lee's record label. They are really going all out this year with this huge promotional push to celebrate RATCT's 65th anniversary. But why now after 4 years of AIWFCIY being the number one Christmas song?
Well I think I know why. Some people in the music and television industry are tired of hearing MC being called the queen of Christmas. It started when MC wanted to trademark the Queen Of Christmas last year. She angered Darlene Love and Elizabeth Chan. Many in the music and television industry were angered by MC's trademark move as well. So, I feel this is their payback for MC attempting to take the queen of Christmas all for herself and from sweet Darlene Love. Everyone already feels sorrow for her how Phil Spector used her voice and she never was publicly credited on a lot the songs she did for him. Phil Spector controlled her early career and was content to leave her uncredited on the songs he did for him.
Do you think that I have hit on something? |
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This is a reply to message 104,315 by
Edward from USA
(Friday 1 December 2023; 18:28) | | |
| According to Talk of the Charts predictions, AIWFCIY will be number one next week, but judging by the numbers, RATCT might top it the week after. As I said, it's going to be an interesting journey for both songs. Maybe they'll alternate at the top, but Brenda would set a record almost impossible to break. Should she hit numbe one, RATCT would be the song with the longest time to get to the top spot, 65. She can have it though. Other than that, Brenda didn't write her song, so she doesn't make money from it really. We definitely need Mariah to dethrone Lil Nas. |
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Would you rather (104,313)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 1 December 2023; 15:50) | | |
| Maybe MC had him to sing in his chest voice to match her chest vocals on Yours. |
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This is a reply to message 104,312 by
Zachariah from Croatia
(Friday 1 December 2023; 13:18) | | |
| I might get hate for this but to me, Yours is not that good of a song that should be receiving so much attention. I mean, I really don't want to hear Justin's squeaky falsetto voice there as well. |
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Would you rather (104,310)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Friday 1 December 2023; 00:53) | | |
| We are going to hear Yours one day when a young new Universal Music Group executive is searching through MC's vault curious about her Island Def Jam years. I wonder if we could start a Yours campaign to get heard sooner. My Rarities II X campaign has gotten me 107 extra followers since August. |
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This is a reply to message 104,300 by
MusicfanJ from Germany
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 14:16) | | |
| There was a documentary about the nipplegate with Janet Jackson. And Justin didn't go well on the docu. That "Yours" with him as a duet wasn't released because he feared about his "good name" and career says it all. He's the real slim shady. Lol. |
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Stream (104,309)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 21:59) | | |
| Rockin Around The Christmas Tree and Last Christmas just got a bunch new streams since NBC's Rockefeller Christmas special last night. These two songs will be #2 and #3 next week with MC. Stream heavy this weekend because they may overtake MC's top spot before January. I love the streaming battle that is happening this year just for the fun of it. Can someone post a Talk of the Charts update today or tomorrow? |
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This is a reply to message 104,293 by
Tameka walker from United states
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 02:09) | | |
| Let's stream [AIWFCIY] and get it to number one. |
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Emotions formula (104,307)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 21:50) | | |
| Great reflection post, Terna. I was just thinking she could revisit the Emotions album with her current voice without all of the vocal acrobatics that made us know that MC had a 5-octave range. I have always thought since its release, Spell My Name was Toni Braxton revisiting her sophomore album, Secrets. So, it worked for Toni. Maybe it could work for MC. I know she has something special coming to the Lambs in 2024. I just don't want 5 songs written with Daniel Moore. I like him as a musician, but not him writing 5 songs with MC that sound like Portrait. |
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This is a reply to message 104,297 by
Terna from Nigeria
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 11:11) | | |
I beg to differ, I don't need her trying to revisit an old formula, "Emotions" was also a near sophomore slump that just wasn't as strong as the first record, neither were the tunes even as memorable like the debut. Mariah is talented enough and creative enough to come up with something fresh, music genres out her comfort zone and especially working with newer producers who have their fingers on the current pulse of music and where it's going, for a fresh sound. Secondly her singing style is dated, too decorated she needs to tone down the girlie "curliecues" and sing straight, mainly with her chest voice, for balance and contrast, so that when she does falsett, it is a breath of fresh air (she did this with great pleasant effect in the late 90's), it just got over bearing from the Charmbracelet era, was too much and very off putting. Her vocal delivery has to be spot on for this new album. I do agree that she needs a return to adult contemporary ballads but sung in her range - "Through the Rain" suffered from this - a beautiful ballad, a very memorable melody but sung too high that the audience cannot sing along. (This is why Adele works so well.) Finally, a change of hair colour or return to her brunette curls - the former would be preferred. Get that tired blonde color retired at least for an era, it ages you 15 minutes.  |
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Emotions formula (104,291)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Thursday 30 November 2023; 00:55) | | |
| We need another album of Hot AC and R&B ballads, Carole King type of ballads, inspirational bops and a 70s R&B female group sample. That was Emotions. We need another Emotions album. |
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Would you rather (104,266)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 19:18) | | |
| I would rather have a 10 to 12 track album next year. It has been too long since we have had new music. Also, I am curious what she will talk about in the new songs since she has been writing with Daniel Moore. And there is probably a good chance that Roc and Roe will be singing on a track. The Rarities 2 can come in 2025. |
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This is a reply to message 104,264 by
Tevin from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 18:50) | | |
| I'm quite curious to read everyone's opinion. For 2024, would you rather have Mariah releases a 10 to 12 tract Rarities 2 album, where half of the songs are never before heard songs, or would you rather see here release a brand new 10 to 12 song studio album? |
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by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 17:56) | | |
| I think it is going to happen too. I worried two weeks ago after the first show. Lol. The five TV appearances have helped this year as well. Last weekend and today AIWFCIY was played on the network morning news programs when they returned from a commercial break. Of course, the hosts mentioned the queen of Christmas Mariah Carey. |
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This is a reply to message 104,259 by
Edward from USA
(Tuesday 28 November 2023; 12:52) | | |
| AIWFCIY jumps from 17 to 4. Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree reenters at No 8. I thinks it's happening again like last year, AIWFCIY will top the charts next week. |
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Who is Jack Harlow? (104,253)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 November 2023; 23:05) | | |
| That's right. I don't know how I forgot First Class. That song was on my playlist doing cardio. |
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This is a reply to message 104,251 by
jaker20 from US
(Monday 27 November 2023; 21:31) | | |
| He also had a big no.1 hit last year with First Class which heavily samples Glamorous by Fergie, who imo, like Mariah in BE got screwed over and due to a bunch of technicalities did not get credited. |
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Who is Jack Harlow? (104,241)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 November 2023; 00:05) | | |
| You're welcome Marty. |
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This is a reply to message 104,238 by
Matty from Vancouver Canada
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 20:08) | | |
| Thanks Robert. He's all over commercials these days, likes chips, fast food and stuff but I don't recognize any of his music. Thanks for the help, I'm having a senior/I don't know her moment and was wondering why he's all over my tv commercial breaks. |
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Grio performances (104,240)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Monday 27 November 2023; 00:04) | | |
| Her natural alto voice is shining through more when she speaks. Her voice reminds me of her 90s interviews. I think that a vocal coach or Mary Ann told her to limit her intake of alcohol this summer and see how your vocal range returns. It was evidence on most of Caution. I am anticipating that we will get more of her alto range with heavier tones and less belting on the new album. |
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This is a reply to message 104,236 by
Andrew from United Kingdom
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 19:24) | | |
All three performances were absolutely awful. Jennifer Hudson and Patti Labelle plodded through songs - which are supposed to build in momentum - only for them both to climax in the most awful screeching. It's very easy to see why Mariah sold records in the way she did. And the less said about the lady singing with Boyz II Men the better.
Mariah's speech endearing. She was unassuming, funny, concise and beautiful. Her speaking voice is noticeably a lot deeper than before. I think she is now going through a lot more vocally than previously realised. Despite that, it was a good showing from her. |
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Who is Jack Harlow? (104,233)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 12:53) | | |
| Jack Harlow is popular today because of his song What's Poppin went viral on Tik Tok. Lil Wayne, Tory Lanez, and Da Baby jumped on the remix and reached #2 on the Hot 100. He got a Grammy nomination and XXL Magazine named him apart of the 2020 Freshman class. His new song Lovin On Me is a R&B sample of 1995 Cadillac Dale's song Whatever (Bass Solique) and it is another Tik Tok viral sensation. |
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This is a reply to message 104,228 by
Matty from Vancouver Canada
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 08:46) | | |
| That's my only question: who is this guy? Anyone know? |
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Grio performances (104,231)
by Robert-Anthony from United States
(Sunday 26 November 2023; 10:31) | | |
| What a welcome surprise for Jennifer Hudson, Coco Jones and Boyz II Men, and the legendary Miss Patti Labelle to sing for MC. I loved all of their renditions especially Miss Patti's beautiful performance of Love Takes Time. I loved how JHud sang VOL in her own way and making MC smile. Coco Jones seemed nervous and kind of messed up the first verse to me with the wrong lyrics and some humming of the words. Maybe I'm wrong about her performance. No one will ever be able to sing MC's One Sweet Day like her. |
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