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Article: What else does the Hall of Fame want from Mariah? (108,632) by Lee from USA I disagree. Being a diva worked for Whitney and Aretha. (Tuesday 29 April 2025; 22:08) this is a reply to message 108,628

Article: What else does the Hall of Fame want from Mariah? (108,628) by TJ from Norway That was a really good article. I also believe that Randy is correct about all the diva act keep her and rest of the world separate. People doesn't take her serious. Another perspective is that her voice was so good, that I guess people did think of her as a product, made by the record company. (Tuesday 29 April 2025; 15:01)

Article: What else does the Hall of Fame want from Mariah? (108,626) by Lee from USA You know that rhe RRHOF messed up if RS is calling them out. (Tuesday 29 April 2025; 09:18)

Snubbed again (108,624) by Lee from USA If they could hold a grudge, so can Mariah. Maybe she could get a measure of revenge on this hypocritical industry. She could beat The Beatles finally with her last album. Or, she could work with more controversial artists. (Tuesday 29 April 2025; 02:28) this is a reply to message 108,622

Snubbed again (108,622) by Bobby A from United States Do you think a group of label executives have not forgotten that their pop princess went into the R&B and hip hop genres too much in 1995. Ol Dirty Bastard? Grammy snub? (Monday 28 April 2025; 23:38)

Let's not act surprised (108,623) by Lee from USA I still stand by my conviction that it's a double standard. There's artists that have criminal records and drug problems being inducted. Michael Jackson showed up to court wearing pajamas, and Whitney was fighting in a nightclub over Ray J. But that's classy enough the voters. (Tuesday 29 April 2025; 01:52) this is a reply to message 108,620

Let's not act surprised (108,620) by Randy from USA I get no satisfaction out of being correct. When this whole process started, I knew that it was an uphill battle. What I've been trying in vain to get everyone on this board to see is that I really do believe in the talent of Mariah Carey. I know the industry doesn't respect her, and what's sad is when I look at the greats: Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Carole King, Aretha Franklin, and I look at Mariah at her prime, she outings and outranks every one of them, but the public would never be able to equate the lighting, the bad side, the eternally 12, the teetering in heels with someone who is a great. When you say Mariah Carey's name in public there are snickers. To most she's someone who whistles and is a Christmas tradition. Need more proof that the industry doesn't respect her look at how many album of the years Taylor Swift has won? Look at the fact that they let Mary J. Blige, OutKast and Missy Elliott into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame before Mariah. This is where the queens will say Mariah doesn't care, but I even call that BS because she campaigned on her own site asking us to vote and creating a special video with her career accomplishments. I called this months ago and ran around like my hair was on fire and most of this board yawned and turned over and went back to sleep, so today I return the favor. (Monday 28 April 2025; 20:37)

Snubbed again (108,618) by Lee from USA Salt n Pepa and Outkast were inducted, and yet they haven't done much in the last 20 years. MJ wasn't professional when his last album flopped. Aretha looked down on tons of artists over the years. But Mariah has to be humble, consistent, and professional. Double standards, anyone? (Monday 28 April 2025; 11:34) this is a reply to message 108,614

Snubbed again (108,614) by Brad from USA Lots of reasons why. Not really sure this will ever happen. And likely not during her lifetime. I think she is deserving but the industry still only sees her a certain way it seems. I hate to say she needs to prove herself again, yet once more. It wouldn't hurt to see her have some success, be able to sing consistently and present herself humbly and professionally. Still not sure it will ever happen, even at that. I'm sorry, MC. (Monday 28 April 2025; 02:53)

Old vs new (108,602) by Lee from USA Personally, I like new Mariah more than old Mariah. She sounded more miserable because she was literally miserable. I doubt that she wants to be miserable anymore. There's tons of singers singing about heartbreak, and yet you're here complaining. (Tuesday 22 April 2025; 14:41)

Just makin' the most of life (108,392) by Lee from USA Finally, somebody's getting it.The woman is doing stuff on the charts that even younger artists are struggling to do. I feel that if you want a more demure artist then why not support them? (Friday 21 March 2025; 11:21) this is a reply to message 108,385

Just makin' the most of life (108,385) by Boy from The Netherlands Pfff, you guys are so nostalgic and stuck in the past. What's with this boomer mentality? It's 2025, and you're still rambling about American Idol, Nicki this, Nicki that, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Jewel something like be for real. Yeah, maybe the average 40+ person would mention them but today's main pop girls are Charli, Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor, Billie, Olivia Rodrigo, etc. And guess what? Mariah is still more relevant than ever. Even Miley Cyrus just gave Mariah her flowers, while Celine Dion (love her though) showed up and got no recognition from Taylor on stage. That's the industry it picks and chooses who it respects. But Mariah? She doesn't need that validation anymore. Billboard literally just named her the #1 pre-2000s female artist of the 21st century, and #12 overall. These aren't just opinions or some delusional fan made resume these are some serious facts. And this whole "Mariah needs to be serious" mentality. You just want Hero Mariah just like Tommy did. But she was never just that girl. She loves the hood, she's camp, she's extra, and she's always been the dramatic woman we saw in Mariah's World. It's wild how so many of you refuse to see the bigger picture Mariah isn't just a pop star, she's an institution in pop culture. She can't reverse her age, physical condition, or mental state, nobody can. Even Beyoncé the queen of perfection isn't selling like she used to and still gets called overrated. Madonna? People call her a grandma on stage. Taylor? Gets dragged for her dancing. The whole "perfect pop star" image is a 90s corporate fantasy. Pop culture, audiences, and marketing have evolved y'all just refuse to evolve with it. And let's talk relevance. Mariah can show up at an award show, turn her head to the left, and it's an instant viral meme. Since the NYE disaster, she's been more relevant than ever. Yeah, people associate her with Christmas, but they also respect the hustle. She's so "irrelevant" that she keeps collecting Icon Awards left and right. And about Mariah being a "ditzy diva who lost track of reality"? I love Wendy Williams, but we all saw how that ended. For someone who supposedly doesn't have it together, Mariah is still living life on her own terms, blowing her money as she pleases, and not under a conservatorship. That alone is a win in my book. And honestly, people need to realize that she's just a 50 year old, half a billion dollar worth rich woman living her best life on yachts cruising the coast of Capri in the winter. She is completely unbothered. She doesn't care about you, me, or whatever is happening online. Her career doesn't define her anymore, it hasn't for a long time. She collects her checks, enjoys her sparkling drinks, and keeps it moving. So why are you stressing yourself out over it? Do I cringe sometimes at the diva act? Sure. Do I wish she had more energy? Maybe. But am I gonna sit here writing an essay about how she supposedly became an "unserious" artist? No. If you're so obsessed with nostalgic Mariah, go watch old performances on YouTube. But free yourself from this toxic outdated way of thinking. She's still here, still winning, and still making history whether you like it or not. (Thursday 20 March 2025; 23:07)

I don't Heart (108,374) by Lee from USA I doubt these critics took her seriously when she was not a diva. Why should she change now? I wouldn't take the critics seriously if they were fawning over artists who did worse than Mariah. (Wednesday 19 March 2025; 15:01) this is a reply to message 108,369

I don't Heart (108,369) by Edward from USA That's exactly what I was telling Randy earlier today, I don't think any new music is coming. I just hope she keeps releasing those unreleased tracks from past eras because I'm sure she has plenty. More than anything, I just want Mariah to be healthy for her children. While she seemed heavily medicated, at least she didn't appear to be drunk or high. Her speech felt like the same tired, recycled diva act. She's an icon, but if she continues down this path, she won't ever be taken seriously. Another thing, I never thought I'd see the day when a "yass queen" would complain about bitter queens on this board. Truly iconic. (Wednesday 19 March 2025; 01:05)

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,335) by Lee from USA Are you kidding me? If it isn't her image, then it is her performances. She must be doing right if she is singing at King Charles' residence. You will never see MJB singing there or in China Mary was literally groveling to Taylor Swift. (Tuesday 11 March 2025; 19:01) this is a reply to message 108,330

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,330) by Randy from USA Y'all know I've been critical of MC due to lip syncing and such but this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing is getting me down. All of her peers, and I mean all of them, are in there. Mary, Whitney, Madonna and Janet. This is exactly in line with a lot of us have been saying for years. The industry doesn't respect her or her accomplishments. Look at her tributes. Look at her award count. Like this kinda matters. But ok. I'm beating another dead horse as y'all point out with me constantly. (Monday 10 March 2025; 19:10)

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,213) by Lee from USA To me, it sounds like more hypocrisy from these critics. (Friday 14 February 2025; 03:23) this is a reply to message 108,210

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (108,210) by Randy from USA I voted and I asked my Facebook to vote and my gay Facebook group to vote. I guess I am a Stan. I think I'm pissed that all of her peers (Whitney, Janet, Madonna and Mary) are in and she's not. Down the road if Celine gets in before MC, it would mean some things about the industry's feelings about her that a lot of us aren't willing to face. (Thursday 13 February 2025; 18:28)

I hoped this wouldn't happen (107,355) by Lee from USA I wouldn't believe anything from the NY Post. It is owned by the same people who owns Fox News and the National Enquirer. Besides, she's stil the best selling female artist in American history. I never had no issue with her diva persona when rappers are given passes for being jerks. (Tuesday 17 September 2024; 11:25) this is a reply to message 107,353

I hoped this wouldn't happen (107,353) by Brad from USA As a 34 year fan of MC, I had hoped it would never be her who would suffer financial ruin for overspending and mismanagement. She just seemed more diligent about that early in her career. But it seems she is ruined financially and mortgaged to her eyeballs. I know her vanity passive income projects have been a bust. She doesn't have the following or good reputation for stuff like that. Touring is all she can do at this point it seems. She's painted herself into a corner with her finances and diva persona that most folks aren't attracted to. Time for a reincarnation of Mimi. She has to bring something new to the masses to reinvent and renew her commercial viability. (Tuesday 17 September 2024; 02:30)

Not surprised (106,276) by Lee from USA Didn't Whitney cuss out a fan for asking for an autograph? Didn't Aretha Franklin threw shade with the best of them? Both were bigger divas than Mariah. Nobody complained when they were inducted. But then again, they were Clive's girls. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 23:01) this is a reply to message 106,270

Not surprised (106,270) by Jamie from UK I agree, that post from Instagram I put on shows the Mariah she should be, professional, executed and a performer. The diva persona is where she went wrong in my eyes. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 18:33)

Not surprised (106,271) by Lee from USA Why should I respect an artist who has ride on other artists' coattails to succeed? You can take away Diddy, Dr.Dre, and the other collaborators, and see what happens. Then again, it could be jealousy on the part of the voters. Everything that she does gets crazy coverage in the press. Therefore, they resent her for it. I would resent it too, if my ceremony got worse ratings than a MC Christmas special. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 18:45) this is a reply to message 106,269

Not surprised (106,269) by Randy from USA Mary J Blige has 9 Grammys and 2 Oscar nominations. People don't snicker when you say her name. And listen Lee, I think you think I'm arguing for MJB. I'm not. There's not a damn thing Mary can do better than MC. Sing, write, dress, give face. MC wins. What I was saying is that the industry respects her more and that's why she was selected over MC. And again a lot of this is MCs fault. She has Tyra and Heidi Klum on stage doing her makeup. She's more interested in her dullard damsel diva than being an artist. She's laying in bed for a portion of her concert. The optics aren't there for an iconic artist. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 17:33)

Not surprised (106,265) by Lee from USA Whitney Houston didn't do a lot of rock duets either. Plus, Mariah has a lot of celebrities that beg her for autographs and selfies. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 15:04) this is a reply to message 106,264

Not surprised (106,264) by Bobby A from United States Mary J. Blige has had a lot of high profile pop duets during her 30 years in the music business. Mary's duets with U2, George Michael, Sting, Elton John, Santana, Ray Charles, Maroon 5, Rod Stewart, Andre Bocelli, and Quincy Jones have broaden her appeal to the music industry executives as a whole. I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame committee looks at that too. That is what MC's career has lacked. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 14:42)

Not surprised (106,262) by Lee from USA If people take Mary so seriously, then why is she still struggling financially? Mariah met 3 presidents, how many did Mary meet? How many artists did Mary influence? Mary could go on a world tour, and be laughed out of other countries. Besides, it's ironic to talk respectability. [censored] (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 14:12) this is a reply to message 106,258

Not surprised (106,258) by Randy from USA I just think Mary is more respected in the industry and that culturally Mary represents something for soul music. People take her seriously. Mariah is great for a throwback, a whistler, a relic to be thawed out each November. I think these perceptions is where Mariah's image hurts her. I remember one of my Whitney fans responses to my dig that Mariah had more number ones. He said "People remember Whitney songs." I wonder how many non-fans know the difference between Fantasy, Heartbreaker and Honey. Anyway, I'm back. Did ya'll miss me? P.S. I was more shocked that Sinead, Sade didn't get in. P.P.S. How messy would it be if Madonna inducted Cher lol. (Tuesday 23 April 2024; 01:30)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,254) by Lee from USA How am I wrong? People aren't supporting her. Besides, where was she when Emimen and others said worse things about Mariah? (Monday 22 April 2024; 14:05) this is a reply to message 106,253

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,253) by Alexis Carrington-Colby from United States This is such an ugly statement dropping in misogynoir. Mariah wouldn’t support this (Monday 22 April 2024; 13:06)

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,252) by Lee from USA Tell me about it. Mary has virtually no fans outside of the USA. She only wins accolades out of pity whereas Mariah is selling out concerts. Our girl has met 3 US presidents and gets worshipped by other celebrities. (Monday 22 April 2024; 11:21) this is a reply to message 106,251

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (106,251) by Bobby A from United States Mary J. Blige got it before Mariah. What? Are you kidding me? (Monday 22 April 2024; 11:03)

Las Vegas (106,186) by Lee from USA If the fans that paid for the tickets and merchandise aren't complaining then why are you griping about it? It is not your money. She must be doing something right if she sells out venues despite the BS. (Tuesday 16 April 2024; 00:51) this is a reply to message 106,185

Las Vegas (106,185) by Tevin from USA I agree, especially when some people on this board were recently complaining about how Taylor Swift is screwing her fans over by releasing multiple vinyls with different songs on them. They need to keep up that same energy with Mariah. I rather spend an extra $100 bucks out of pocket for a couple new songs (I agree it's outrageous, I'm just making a point), then spend thousands of dollars (tickets, plus air fair, plus hotels), to see Mariah press play on tape player and lip sync to new vocals. I know that touring is where money is made, but if she has time to record all of these pre-recorded songs, she has enough time to drop a new album. Especially since her new vocals sound really good and healthy. Or she should do strip down versions of some songs (like the promo clips she posted). I would not even be mad if half of the songs were live and the other half lipped, but come on, no one (especially in this economy) can say that it is reasonable and appropriate to sing for 2 minutes in a 2 hour long show. One positive note is that her vocals are sounding good again. (Monday 15 April 2024; 23:14)

Breakdown (live in Perth - footage) (105,852) by Lee from USA She pretty much wore the same thing in the video. Why complain now? (Sunday 3 March 2024; 18:46) this is a reply to message 105,850

Breakdown (live in Perth - footage) (105,850) by Zachariah from Croatia Yes. It is just not her. (Sunday 3 March 2024; 15:15)

Rock and Roll HOF (105,386) by Lee from USA Ikr. (Monday 12 February 2024; 21:15) this is a reply to message 105,384

Rock and Roll HOF (105,384) by Bobby A from United States Just speaking it into existence. The Clark Sisters have a song called Name It Claim It. (Monday 12 February 2024; 20:47)

Rock and Roll HOF (105,381) by Lee from USA How it is so? (Monday 12 February 2024; 12:42) this is a reply to message 105,361

Rock and Roll HOF (105,361) by Bobby A from United States She already will be one of the honorees. This is going to be her year to shine. (Sunday 11 February 2024; 13:46)

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,379) by Lee from USA I did vote. I thought it was decided by people in the industry more than fan vote. (Monday 12 February 2024; 12:28) this is a reply to message 105,375

Vote Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (105,375) by Pedro from Brazil Don't forget to vote every day for Mariah. She's way behind. Click on the link vote.rockhall.com. (Monday 12 February 2024; 00:40)

Billboard Hot 100 (105,322) by Lee from USA I agree. I mean, she did topple Taylor and Adele from the top of the Billboard Top 100. (Thursday 8 February 2024; 12:10) this is a reply to message 105,319

Billboard Hot 100 (105,319) by Lainsky from Philippines I did not realize that Ariana's "Yes, And?" went to number for a week. I mean, I used to visit the chart every week, especially the late 90's and 2000's. And every Christmas season since AIWFCIY went to No.1. Other than those times, not so often. The truth is, I miss seeing Mariah in the chart, not only during Christmas. I know her prime years are behind us, and it will take a miracle to see her again on top. However, I still believe it is not impossible. Thus, I hope her next release (if there is truly one) will do that for her like another TEOM moment. Well, we can only hope for nowadays, and there's nothing wrong with staying positive. (Thursday 8 February 2024; 04:21)

Article: Mariah Carey visits the White House (104,611) by Lee from USA Polls are conducted with people using landlines, which favors older conservatives. In the US elections this year, conservatives got beaten soundly, especially the ones Trump endorsed. This is a MC site. If the kids and their parents aren't complaining about her leotards, then why are you complaining? (Friday 22 December 2023; 13:50) this is a reply to message 104,610

Article: Mariah Carey visits the White House (104,610) by Andrew from the UK How a person can, simultaneously, be so right and so wrong. If you read any polls and political commentary that isn't Far Left you would understand that Trump is far and wide likely to become the Republican nominee in 2024 and 47 in 2025, if Biden is his opponent. But the answer is Trump. Well done. And you got the concert right. But the name wrong. Again. The concert is known as St. John the Divine. Is "Harlem" the new "fetch", I wonder? It ain't gonna happen. Sorry you go home empty handed. But have you had a nice day out? (Friday 22 December 2023; 13:01)

News (104,497) by Lee from USA Wasn't she #1 at the first week of 2023? (Sunday 10 December 2023; 20:16) this is a reply to message 104,496

News (104,496) by Bobby A from United States I hear from a lot of my co-workers and friends that they have grown tired of AIWFCIY this year. When I am out and about in the stores, I am hear other artists' versions of AIWFCIY. Maybe MC won't make it to number #1 this year and that is okay with me. I just want her to get back in the studio and get that album finished. (Sunday 10 December 2023; 18:53)

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