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Baby from Sweden (49,830) by JAXGH from United States What kind of insider knowledge do you need? Lmao. It's out. You don't need "access" or "insiders". You just need to have really good ears. It's been out. It's not a secret. Slander and defamation? For what? For being honest? He's not the only who knows it. Even if he gets sued, he will definitely win. Trey, Kelly, Walter, her music director, her pianist, her audio engineer, her band, her team, her back up singers know it. They all know it. Even a non fan knows Mariah's tricks and lip syncing. He didn't ruin her "reputation". Mariah ruined it herself. Nate knows how Mariah works, he's written, collaborated, sang with her. Hell he had even lip synced with her. He knows her personally and frankly he's a fan. And all fans know Mariah's lip syncing ways. He's not sabotaging nor ridiculing her. Nate addressed the issue because of Mariah being caught. Nate was direct and honest. He didn't say one mean word to Mariah, he actually helped her by giving a genuine advice which I'm sure he's done before for all the gimmick to stop. Sadly it has to come to the point where Mariah's lies are exposed and the whole world has to know. Nate is helping Mariah before she completely ruins her credibility as a live performer. Their shows aren't even on the same dates so this is not a "competition" issue but simply a friend caring and wanting a friend to stop her bad habits. (Friday 6 February 2015; 17:36)

Nathan (49,829) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I applaud his courage, because he risked losing his friendship with MC (she might not speak to him) and the wrath of lambs around the world. He risked being bombarded on social media by the fans. Yet he decided to speak up. Someone needed to. I don't know if Mariah reads our messages, we are basically unknown faces. But I think there is a chance Nathan's message may reach MC. Thing is if she takes this as a wake up call and turns her life around, she'll be the gainer. If she takes this as negativity and turns her back on him, only she'll be the loser. I do not take this as a sabotage attempt. Not in the least. Yes, like Shelly said, maybe he could have talked to her in private but I guess for some reason he thought this was the way he wants to go about it. For months now MC has been systematically tarnishing her own legacy. Why she is doing it is beyond me. But I hate to see her like this. I am glad that most people on this board agree with Nathan on this, instead of badmouthing him. Because honestly, there is no more time left to coddle Mariah anymore and expect she'll change her ways, it's time for some straight up conversation and Mariah has to confront her mistakes. (Friday 6 February 2015; 17:23)

Glitter (49,828) by Jon from Netherlands She recognised she regreted it for the longest time on the Breakfast Club last year. I always loved it. (Friday 6 February 2015; 17:16)

Lambs of Asia To The World press image (49,827) by Warrior Butterfly from USA I saw the "Lambs of Asia To The World - press image". Frankly Mariah already had an album called #1's in 1998, so a different title like "More #1's" let's keep moving forward exclude anything after Butterfly, make it a truly update a continuation. I re-conceptualized the sequence 50/50 half new #1's and half new stuff. 1. Touch My Body 2. Don't Forget About Us 3. We Belong Together 4. Heartbraker 5. Thank God I Found You Bonus 6. Hope Street 7. Don't Try So Hard 8. Climb It (To The Top) 9. Save The Day 10. Vision of Love Just to show where is all began, maybe the original demo version or re-recorded. Yes with only five tracks it looks more like an EP however with the bonuses it would fresh out to a complete standard ten track album. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:51)

Raphael (49,826) by Marissa from USA Hey Raphael, I was having the same problem. The person who posted it deleted their YouTube account and I haven't been able to find it ever since. I hope someone reposts it soon. That interview gave me life. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:33)

Nathan Morris (Boyz II Men) comments / Will from England (49,825) by ADAM from USA I applaud his honesty and bravery to speak up about her downfall in these these times of need. I can't stand when celebrities die, how everyone comes out the woodworks including stylists, musicians and collaborators and proceed to spill the beans about how they knew there was a problem and never spoke out. He decided to buck the trend and speak out now and offer his feedback. For a long time now, Mariah has lost a great deal of inspiration for creating meaningful music and has not worked at preserving her voice. She has lost a spark and drive in her that's been difficult to watch for many many years. I hope his message finds a way to her and sparks a change. I also agree with Will's comments. Mariah is bullish and has a long history of refusing help. I believe she has a drinking problem that's more than celebratory and the only way she'll change change her pattern of behavior is to hit rock bottom and have another breakdown (Glitter). I don't believe she's hit that low point yet where she's needs to be hospitalized unfortunately to realize she has a problem. The problem with money and fame, is that it provides a bigger cushion for people to pad their problems and not see the truth from fiction in their minds. MC has too many enablers and one-sided mirrors to get help right now. Such a shame to see a talent like hers diminish and become ridiculed. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:25)

Nathan Morris (49,824) by Dove from USA It's hard to be the bearer of bad news. It's easy for posters on the internet to post whatever because we're anonymous. He actually put his face and name out there and risked the wrath of the lambs. Regardless of everything, everybody still loves Mariah Carey. I'm sure he knew what was coming when he posted it. I think it's brave. He is not exposing anything to the world that we don't already know. He isn't mocking her or trying to humiliate her, TMZ style. He was direct but kind. To me it seems like he's trying to wake her up and help her, because he knows what she can be, and she's so close to being that again. It's hard to be that friend, especially if you like and respect the person. I do wonder why he didn't reach out to her privately, but maybe it wouldn't have had as much of an impact. Thank you Nathan, for trying to wake up our girl. We love you Mariah, and still believe in you. Side note: We don't know what's going on. Shania Twain said on Oprah that she wasn't able to sing after her divorce. If the problem can be addressed, it should be. (Friday 6 February 2015; 15:45)

Will / Glitter (49,823) by Dove from USA Will (49,816) I think she has said Glitter was a mistake. She also said she's grown to accept it with time as it has become a cult classic. I can't find the clip now. Personally, I'm glad Glitter exists. (Friday 6 February 2015; 15:38)

Interview (49,822) by Raphael from Brazil Hey lambs I need help: I cant find that Wendy interview from Charmbracelet era on YouTube. I remember that interview was like one hour and a half. (Friday 6 February 2015; 15:17)

"Sabotage" (49,821) by G.G. from USA Nobody is sabotaging Mariah, other than Mariah herself. (Friday 6 February 2015; 14:40)

Mariah's voice vs. everyone elses (49,820) by B from USA Mariah's voice is fragile. I do agree that she needs to excerise her voice more often and maybe start seeing a vocal coach. I'm still going to Vegas to see Mariah. (Friday 6 February 2015; 14:23)

So you went to Mimi on your contacts and pressed delete? (49,819) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End It's one thing when random people off the street have an opinion on Mariah's singing and all the unsolicited, presumptuous advice that go along with that. It's another when someone who claims to be a fan either wants her to undergo surgery and risk losing her voice like Julie Andrews did. Or the ones who spread malicious rumours of addiction to substances as the culprit to any hiccups Mariah has, privately or publicly. Then you have the ones who want her to retire all together. Which category Nate falls into is debatable but like 99% of all the people who comment on Mariah Carey, Nate actually has/had access to her, and until this very moment I assumed they were more friends than just former collaborators. Why would he try and sabotage her Vegas gigs like this? It's actually very slanderous because he's giving the public the impression that he has insider knowledge when he obviously doesn't. Someone with access to Mariah doesn't make thiat kind of underhanded statement that is designed to make fans hesitate on going to Mariah's #1's show. This is not just someone having an opinion, this is a competitor attacking Mariah Carey The Corporation. I don't even understand how anyone can deny that there is an obvious agenda in the industry to dethrone Mariah. Boyz II Men and Mariah have the longest running #1 song in Billboard history and now any possible live duets of One Sweet Day etc. are in jeopardy? Thanks a lot Nate, OAN Mariah, you need to sue for slander and defamation. (Friday 6 February 2015; 14:11)

Boyz II Men (49,818) by G.G. from USA They had plenty of hits without Mariah. Everyone is "offended" by the truth when they should be offended by Mariah's disrespect towards her loyal fans by giving one crappy performance after another. Deflecting and misplaced anger isn't going to fix the real problems. (Friday 6 February 2015; 13:42)

Nathan Morris (49,817) by JAXGH from United States I can't even believe some fans have the urge to disagree with Nathan. "Real" friends tell it how it is. "Real" friends don't play games. "Real" friends will not say what you want to hear, rather tell you what you need to work on. "Real" friends will go there just to help you and wake you up. "Real" friends will keep it real. And that's exactly what he did. I applaud him for that. He's probably the only artist in the industry that really took the time to keep it real for Mariah, just so she gets out of this horrendous habit. Thank you Nathan. As a musician himself and of course, he's closer to Mariah than any of us. This is really amazing to read. Everyone tweet the link to Mariah. She needs to read it. Mariah knows his credibility, after all it might just be the only thing that can help save her. (Friday 6 February 2015; 13:19)

Nathan Morris (49,816) by Will from England I 100% agree with what he said. Mariah has to choose to be Mariah Carey again. It's up to her on whether or not she can bring it all back together, and show the world how wrong they are about her. Mariah saved my life with her music, and all I want for her is to rise up again and fight back. But we must also remember that she would have to first admit that something is wrong. The last time that happened, it was during Glitter. And for her to openly say that something is wrong, I'd imagine that is something very difficult for her to do. I don't think she has ever once said "Ok, that was a mistake" except for marrying Tommy. She has (reluctantly) said that Sony did right when they focused the public's attention on her voice, and not her image. Even with Glitter, she didn't say outright it was a mistake to do (I don't think). She is a very strong, independent woman who has a history of disliking of being told what to do, and what not to do regardless of whether it benefits her. She didn't want to put LTT on her first album. Hell, she didn't even want to record new songs for TEOM (ILT and WBT) and look at the result when she did. But she gave in because she was so young at the time and it was her first album. Now though, she's in her 40s, had a successful career with all the awards to boot, I think it will be very difficult for her to hear. This isn't a diva thing, it's a human with insecurities thing. (Friday 6 February 2015; 12:56)

Boyz II Men (49,815) by Ty from USA Wow, they forget that Mariah gave them the biggest hit of their career and they are still eating from the sales. Real friends don't put grown folk business in the street. Nathan you queen, shady shady shady. (Friday 6 February 2015; 12:51)

Boyz II Men (49,814) by G.G. from USA That was spot on. Until Mariah faces the 100% truth she will continue to give bad performances. Things cannot get better or change until we face the sometimes ugly truth. Hopefully Mariah will see his comments and they will be a catalyst for a phenomenal change. If not, Vegas is going to be a mess. (Friday 6 February 2015; 10:47)

Nathan Morris (Boyz II Men) comments on bad performance (49,813) by Martyn from England, UK Has anybody seen that Nathan Morris has addressed Mariah's poor vocal on his Facebook page? Very brave of him to be so honest. I wonder what Mariah would think if she saw it? He said the following: We as artists should never lose sight or take for granted our gift. The older we get the harder it gets to maintain it, it just doesn't come as easy anymore. But maintaining it can be done. Many artist have done it for years. Usually the more you work-out the stronger your body gets. The more we read the better we get at reading. Exercising and maintaining the quality of your voice is no different. We all have (as artists) had bad performances in our careers that's normal, no one is perfect. And some may have even stuck in a backing vocal or two on those bad vocal days. But when performances like this happen on a consistent basis they are no longer considered mistakes or accidents, they are now habits. We as artists at some point must take the blame when we put ourselves in uncompromising positions such as this. I feel bad for her because I know what she can be, but she has to want to be that again. Being relevant just doesn't do it. I'm sure one of our teachers at some point in our lives told us that if we continue to cheat we would get caught. I know she is coming to Vegas for a residency soon and I pray all goes well for her. Trust me, Vegas is no cake walk. (Friday 6 February 2015; 8:31)

MC fans of Asia to the the world of Facebook (49,812) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA They mobile uploaded an official Epic Records document that details Mariah Carey's new #1s album, release date, and tracklisting. It includes copyright and official Epic Records/Maroon Entertainment logos. This reminds me of when Beyonces deluxe album details leaked late last summer. Her document showed the remixed tracklisting, new songs, and the official release date. Beyonce later confirmed it as well as her label. If this document is legit for Mariah, I am happy to see her finally go back to Sony and get to hear Hope Street for the first rime. (Friday 6 February 2015; 7:02)

Orkun / Bill (49,810) by Dove from USA Orkun, thank you so much for your kind words and support. You're sweet. Hugs to you. Hey to Bill. (Friday 6 February 2015; 6:35)

Marissa (49,809) by Mara from United States I think that is a great option for Mariah. She is such a talented songwriter. I know she has done this for a few people before. Someone like Sia comes to mind. She has written some of today's biggest hits, but I can definitely see MC doing the same if she was willing to part with her talent. It could be something she could do behind the scenes if she wanted to slow down in the future. On a side note, it's been very interesting reading everyone's thoughts lately. Nice to see how everyone really all in all want nothing but the best for our Mariah. (Friday 6 February 2015; 5:40)

The Emancipation of Mimi 3.0 (49,808) by Marcus from Brazil I think Mariah is going to be just fine. It's a good thing that people's attention span these days is so ephemeral that they move to the next subject rather quickly. Mariah has gotten her wake-up call, I hope she uses this public outcry to bring about some positive and necessary changes. Sometimes we need to humble ourselves a little to understand all the blessings in our lives. I hope she realizes that she's a megastar because of the support of hers fans, that we shouldn't be taken for granted with subpar performances. Many have jumped ship, but many of us are still here rooting for her, some with tough love, some with constructive criticism, and others with unconditional love, but always here through thick and thin. (Friday 6 February 2015; 2:57)

Marissa (49,806) by Abraham from USA Are you joking? Mariah needs to write for herself. Not anyone else. Her career is at stake. She doesn't have time to worry about other artists. She needs to only focus on herself. (Friday 6 February 2015; 2:11)

Michael (49,805) by Jon from Netherlands "Shame since she is absolutely beautiful in and out and exceptionally talented." That sentence really got to me. It is incredible how one can have so much and still feel so small. Hopefully she can work that out with help from someone, not a husband that can leave at any moment, but a professional that can show her that that woman-child belongs to the past and she has no reason to feel insecure. She has achieved more than ever imaginable. Maybe this divorce is bringing all sorts of feelings of abandonment from her childhood but she has million reasons to feel comfortable with what she made of herself. So many people love her beyond her voice. I've been harsh on her on the business side of things but that doesn't mean I don't understand the emotional side. (Friday 6 February 2015; 1:33)

Songwriting (49,804) by Marissa from USA I think Mariah needs to start writing music for other artists. That is the one aspect of her talent that's never wavered. Mariah's songwriting ability is unparalleled. I think she should capitalize on that and stop hoarding all of that greatness for herself. Mariah knows how to write both deep love songs and catchy songs like TMB and ILT, so she could write for big vocalists like Adele or trendy artists of the moment. Can you imagine all of the good publicity she would get if Rihanna or Adele's hottest new song was written by MC? And who in their right mind would turn down a song written by someone of MC's caliber? People who work behind the scenes seem to get much more respect than the ones who are in the forefront. They also aren't under as much scrutiny. I'm not saying MC should stop doing music, I just think that this is a brilliant avenue to explore to ensure that her name is never completely tarnished. If she ever hits a rough patch emotionally, I think it would be better if she just shifted to working behind the scenes rather than retiring altogether. (Friday 6 February 2015; 1:11)

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