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Assumptions (67,653) by Tyler from USA I think we all need to stop taking these assumptions as facts. The media will take stories from "sources" and run with it. We are blaming Mariah for being behind this when we have no reason or facts to confirm. When Mariah divorced Nick the same sorta stories came about. They broke up because Mariah drank ect. This is how they sell newspapers and Wendy gets a check. Obviously, the whole needing 50 million because she was traumatized is a lie. She was at her Halloween party last week. No way she would do such a thing and then plan a statement. This is strictly gossip and I think it's sad we immediately think she's behind this. I really think this whole Stella conspiracy thing has gotten a bit out of hand. It's like we are all paranoid and making us a bit coocoo. I just hope Mariah continues to stay silent about the issue. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 7:15)

Re: World's worst manager (67,651) by Cat from USA So I haven't posted in forever but this manager does not seem very competent to be handling someone of Mariah's status which has made me have to say something. She seems very unprofessional in the way statements are put out. As Mariah is private, nothing about a fight would have ever come out, or anything about finances. This manager seems to follow the "all press is good press" mentality. This childish drama being reported is for these new/reality "stars". Mariah is her employer but I doubt she is reviewing statements before they are put out, and if she is, I can see her saying "whatever dahling" because she believes she's above the tabloid nonsense. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 6:41)

Re: Packer (67,643) (67,650) by Mara from United States Man, with all this talk about this "something terrible that happened to Mariah's assistant on the boat" so bad that is traumatized Mariah enough to cancel her SA tour. Makes you wonder what really happened on that yacht. Maybe James threw Stella in the ocean. I can imagine it must have been pretty tempting with how in your face she was at all times. Ok, I'm kidding obviously but it really does make you wonder. They keep saying terrible but the add "not violent". This has been one of the strangest weeks in Mariah news I think ever. It's up there with Glitter. I got my tickets to the December 14th Beacon show. I wish that was what we were talking about. Doesn't seem like she will add the extra shows like she has in the past two years this time. It's a shame this is what we are talking about instead of the fact that November is quickly approaching and it's her time. I really think Mariah cannot afford to keep her head in the sand or up in the clouds anymore and she needs to release some kind of statement. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 6:27)

Shame on you (67,649) by Nikki from usa We don't know anything yet. There is no Stella, Mariah, or James. We have no official statements or live footage. You have a bunch of gossip columns pulling a lot of random crap out of their asses while you all eat it up like it's all facts. All that is truly known is that they haven't been seen together since Greece, Packer didn't show up to Mariah's Halloween party, and most of Mariah's South American leg was cancelled. According to Mariah, that was a promoter issue and not related to her relationship. Other than that all you have is 100% speculation. Mariah not being able to do shows due to promoters would not be the first time this has happened with Mariah or other singers, it won't be the last, and it certainly isn't an "F.U." to her fans. Currently, Mariah's still wearing her ring, so we don't know that they've split for good or not. We don't know anything. Some of you act like vultures licking your lips so you can be "outraged" by Mariah because you read tabloid fodder is disgusting. Some of you only post on here when you have something to whine about no matter how thin the BS storyline. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 5:45)

Re: Packer (67,643) (67,648) by G.G. from USA "I swear Stella's contour is her source of power, that's why she never blends it out. That's where she stores her evil powers." This made me lol. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 5:42)

In the light of all the recent drama (67,647) by Lara from Middle East I take back when I complained about her Instagram silence. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 5:16)

Mariah needs help (67,646) by THE TRUTH from USA Mariah needs to be in a hospital under the care of a team of doctors who can help her, not under Stella's care. Stella calling James mentally unbalanced really was opening the door for some serious mudslinging and she knows Mariah lives in a glass house. That interview Morgan gave a while ago saying that he was scared for her really sounds to me to be having more and more weight. Do we really believe that if she was in her right mind rather than medicated and under the control of dark influence like Stella and whoever else is behind the scenes that Mariah would really be allowing all of this Stella-ness? This train has been heading off the tracks since 2001 and while there were a few moments overall, let's be honest with ourselves, the vultures have been picking at the carcass of Mariah's legend and legacy ever since. We can only pray for the best for she and Dem Babies. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 2:00)

All the effing drama (67,645) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines What's funny about all this drama is how every sickening update only serves to reveal more and more of how much this situation/"affair" was simply a business relationship gone wrong. Validation for the cynical fans who were doubtful from the start. Mariah - you were never as whip-smart or ruthless as Madonna, but you got yourself into this, now get yourself out. Sad that the kids and the fans are collateral damage. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:37)

Packer (67,643) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Just because he didn't fire back at Mariah yet doesn't mean he won't. There's only so much a man will take before he fires back. Also this isn't just an ordinary dude, he has money and connections. Once he fires back, what's Stella's plan really? She is calling him mentally unstable, what will happen when Packer says Mariah is not stable? Also this 50 million payment is so ridiculous. Why would he pay her 50 million for moving from NY to LA? If she didn't want it, she could have said no and ended the relationship. Packer paid his ex-wife 100 million after being married to her for years, having business ventures and sharing kids. How crazy is it for Stella to demand 50 million for a 10 month engagement? And why say these to TMZ? She is provoking him to lash out. Also this 50 million pay out is not painting Mariah out to be a victim, it's basically making her look like a gold digger. This combined with her keeping the ring. Jeez I never thought I'd live to see these. Mariah why would you allow this to happen? You don't need the money, you don't need the ring. Why are you letting these go on? Tell Stella to shut the fudge up and rub off her damn contour. I swear Stella's contour is her source of power, that's why she never blends it out. That's where she stores her evil powers. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:27)

Re: Dembabies (67,624) (67,642) by Licia from USA Ribbon I see no lies told. The crazy thing is if Nick really wanted to he could use this whole mess to his advantage. If in fact they were having custody issues, this whole debacle does not look good on her. I bet Mariah nor her team even thought about the negative impact that this could have on her kids who got put in this mess by default. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:17)

TMZ video (67,641) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter This suggests that Mariah's team is the one who has said that James owes her 50 million. Because apparently she was so traumatized by the Greece incident that she had to cancel her South American tour (Jeez Stella, so sloppy. Didn't "Mariah" just say a while back it was due to promoters? Now you are going to blame your failure to coordinate a short tour on Packer?) and so she lost out on millions and also because she had to relocate to Los Angeles. Jeez. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:11)

Re: World's worst manager (67,640) by Ian from United Kingdom Love how everyone is all over Stella. Let's get real lambs. Mariah is her employer. Who is the stupid one? (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:10)

Why? (67,639) by Ian from United Kingdom I haven't been on here for a while, I have now realised why. Mariah Carey was an amazing singer/songwriter, it's now a car crash/pantomime and not a very good one. It is no longer about musical content or talent, it seems to me about selling a very crass, tacky brand that most people don't care about, she might as well marry a Kardashian or even Trump, that would get headlines. That's what's important, yeah? (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:07)

Re: Mariah asking James for 50 million? (67,620) (67,638) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Honestly, at this point I have zero theories about what went down. We are getting so many contradictory stories and so many versions, it's ridiculous. So far Packer's team has kept it civil by only denying the allegations being thrown at Packer and then just focusing the blame directly on Stella, like the link posted by Butterfly. I find this version flat out believable because I too thought that this fight is mainly Stella putting the rifle on Mariah's shoulder and firing, using Mariah as a shield. Mariah is at fault here too for allowing people to influence her so much and I can see her siding with Stella because Mariah needs constant company and Stella is constantly hounding Mariah while Packer has to be away for business. So Mariah probably chose whoever stays with her most of the time. Stella calling paps to photograph them while hanging out at Nobu while the fans were crying and begging for explanations is honestly Mariah's biggest "Eff You" to the lambs as well. I honestly am heartbroken seeing the woman whom I looked up to as a living example that "talent triumphs over all and that if you have talent you don't need trashy stunts", has now resorted to such cheap antics. Leaking story about being in a relationship with Bryan while she is sitting with this dude at the restaurant, calling her fiance mentally unstable (which is a very serious allegation) and all these is just too much. Seems like Mariah has given free reign to ruin her image, so there is nothing much we can do. This whole thing could have been avoided with a joint or separate statement basically saying it didn't work out. But since Stella was the reason of the fight, we have to endure this filthy display of trashy drama. I'm so done with this. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:06)

Ridiculous situation (67,637) by Licia from USA I'm so done with this situation. It's getting crappier and more confusing every hour. Whatever Stella, Mariah, and whomever else is doing they need to stop. I'm done blaming Stella for everything. She may be the one coming up with a the ideas, but Stella can't make these ideas a reality unless Mariah agrees. Everyone wants to make Mariah the victim all the time, but this time I think she is just as responsible. She has the power to make this whole situation go away yet she hasn't and she's walking around like nothing is wrong. Instead of spending so much time trying to drag JP, how about somebody give those fans a proper apology and explanation? That piss poor Twitter post isn't going to cut it. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:05)

Wake up Mariah! (67,636) by Natalia from Italy Your life is in shambles yet again. Wake the [censored] up honey. Fire Stella and find a competent manager. I wish MC would just go back into hiding for a while and ponder over all this mess, and decide how to fix things. I believe she has truly lost her mind. She is now just a puppet and Stella is the puppet master. So sad. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 1:00)

Re: World's worst manager (67,631) (67,635) by G.G. from USA She is garbage. I've said it for a while now. I hope this is the beginning of the end, and her time as Mariah's "manager" is about over. Someone start a petition to fire this trash bag and get Mariah a real manager. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 0:44)

Re: World's worst manager (67,631) (67,634) by B from USA This inside source is Stella. These comments reek of a cheap Chanel #5 knockoff and desperation (and blush). It's time for the dictator to be overthrown. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 0:22)

Re: Excuse the typos (67,632) (67,633) by B from USA It happens. Especially during times like these. (Saturday 29 October 2016; 0:08)

Excuse the typos (67,632) by Marissa from USA Please excuse all of the typos in my last message. I was too angry when I wrote it to focus on spelling and grammar. (Friday 28 October 2016; 23:03)

World's worst manager (67,631) by Marissa from USA I find it extremely heartless and obnoxious that Stella chooses to post photos of her hanging out at Mariah's Halloween party instead of issuing an apology to all of the heartbroken fans. This woman has never cared about the opinions of the lambs and has never had any empathy towards us. A great manager cares about their artist and (caps) their fans. The few times she acknowledges us at all is when she is calling us bitches and telling us that we are too poor to afford her shoes (true story). All of the people who think Stella is the best thing since sliced bread, please give me 5 examples of her showing genuine care about the feedback of the fans. I'll wait. The only person whose behind she kisses is Mariah's so she can ensure that the she never loses the whirlwind, lavish lifestyle that MC provides. We have all expressed so many concerns and she has never given a shit, even though she knows that she is our only messenger to get to Mariah. Kind of reminds me of a man who will try to get in the good graces of a woman he's dating, but will never try to get to know or love her kids. That is the number one sign of someone who can't be trusted. She has never f***** with us because she knows that we see right through her. That was a dumb move, because she probably could have gotten away with a lot more without being called out had she not been keeping fans at arms length from day one. Any manager that has no interest in their artist's fans is a con-woman who's only looking out for themselves. It's only a matter of time before this all goes down in flames. (Friday 28 October 2016; 21:45)

Article: Breakup has E! "freaking out" about her reality series (67,630) by RibbonB from USA Alternate bail out plan being set into motion. Whaa, whaaa. Her old team was correct as were many of her fans, but Mariah refused to listen. I hope someone is caring for her children and I don't mean Stella's pre-teen daughter. This mess needs to stop. I hope M. learns from this. She is good enough without all this frippery. (Friday 28 October 2016; 21:35)

Article: Mariah: Pay me $50 million for my troubles (67,629) by Ignacio Pineda from United States I highly doubt this is true. Yes, she is a diva, but that's because she can be. She has her own money and don't need his. (Friday 28 October 2016; 21:06)

Assistant is Stella (67,628) by Butterfly from The other woman is Mariah's manager, Stella Bulochnikov, who James "just can't stand" close sources revealed exclusively to Woman's Day today. He cannot tolerate her dictator style," our insider says. She's a constant in their lives and can be very abrasive. He can't cop her at all. (Friday 28 October 2016; 20:27)

Re: TMZ is reporting the split (67,618) (67,627) by MusicfanJ from Germany Luke I completely agree with you. Mariah seems everthing but not happy. She should be alone or with real people and get all over the things that happened especially in private. Of course that takes time, but I fear that it is getting worse if she doesn't change some things. Like hanging out with fake people and play the happy superstar who is always festive. Her heart got broken a lot of times she doesn't deserve this drama even if she's not innocent by making the wrong decisions. (Friday 28 October 2016; 20:02)

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