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Re: I don't think you're ready (64,601) (64,607) by Haiji Toro from USA Andrew, I cannot contain my laughter from the visual you gave me. Now I have to go watch that movie. I have to say though, I am proud of you. Not sure if my post shed a tiny little light in your heart (I hope it did) or maybe I'm wrong, but either way, positivity is always great. Look at it this way, if a friend of yours told you that they had a family member with a drug problem and needed quick intervention but needed your support, would you do it? Knowing that either way, if you helped or not, it wouldn't affect your life at all, possibly embarrassing the addict, would you be there for your friend? Maybe this isn't that type of situation (thank God), but you see how important it is for your friend. Well in my opinion, the petition is kind of like that. It may not affect your life personally, but it means that much to those that appreciate that petition. You, of course, don't owe anything to anyone and we may not all be friends outside this message board, but I'd like to think of everyone that interacts on here as an extended musical family/friends. Like someone stated before, it's for a positive outcome. Overall, I'm not trying to pressure you into anything you don't wanna do, I'll still respect your decision. I just felt like you should at least see my point of view. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 22:03)

Marissa and Mimi L (64,606) by G.G. from USA Ignore it. Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon will knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like it's won. We know the character of the people we're dealing with, why would you believe you can rationalize with them? Andrew shows, daily, who and what he is. It's not going to change. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 22:01)

Re: Petition (64,596) (64,605) by TRAVON AUSTIN from United States Mimi L. I am starting to get pissed because you and everyone else are saying I bashed Marissa. I keep getting accused of being rude because I don't want to sign the petition. All of my posts thus far have been appropiate and I have tried to maintain my class. I keep talking about the petition because people keep responding to me or referencing my name while accusing me of being rude. If you ask me a question, I will answer the question. If you want me to explain, I will explain. If you dont like what I am saying and you are negative about it, expect me to respond. I have no issue with this petition. I have made that clear despite my feelings towards it. I have also stated how I feel about the petition. I have also apologized and made my points clearly. Why should I have to explain how I was being rude when I feel I was not being rude? I understand apologizing for our differences of opinion but I have already done that. What else do you guys want me to do? Get down on my knees and beg you please. I am not desperate nor am I going to let others run over me. Are my consversations with Andrew and finally agreeing with him rubbing people the wrong way? Please elighten me as people have called me names this week and a hypocrite when all I was doing was giving my own separate opinion. Even giving my own opinion, I supported all of you and offered to sign it if anyone would ask me to. Not from my own free will was I willing to sign it. Instead I get f*** you (sarcasm) and explain yourself you piece of s*** (also sarcasm) tyes of attitudes. What's up with that? (Saturday 23 July 2016; 22:01)

Silence (64,604) by Ryan from Canada I have just recently seen people reacting to Rhianna and Nicki Minaj about their silence about world events the same way that people have been attacking Mariah about not commenting. I don't understand what people think is going to happen if they do make a statement. I don't think the terrorists are going stop and think "geese you know Mariah's right, maybe we should rethink killing and injuring all these people because she cares". I am sure Mariah, Nicki and Rhianna all feel the same as everyone else about these tragedies. Is mourning in silence really something to be attacked about? (Saturday 23 July 2016; 21:38)

Re: Petition (64,599) (64,603) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ofcourse sweetheart, that's exactly what my main intention is. You got me all figured out. How oh how are you so darn intelligent? Completely blew my cover. How will I now succeed in my Stella takedown? (Saturday 23 July 2016; 21:35)

Re: Petition (64,596) (64,602) by Adam from Usa Well said Mimi. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 21:28)

Re: I don't think you're ready (64,592) (64,601) by Andrew from UK Mate, given that awful video of Mariah flashing in a video that's been put on Instagram I may sign the bloody petition myself. Lmfao what the bloody hell is going on there? What insane person took that and is Mariah completely high? So my theory is as follows. Mariah is recreating the scene from "Silence Of The Lambs" where Buffalo Bill tucks Little William between his legs and poses naked, arms spread, in front of the mirror. Ergo, "Silence of the Lambs" = "stop with the petition"? Lol ok I jest. Next post, positive positive positive I promise promise promise. *scratches head and thinks super hard* (Saturday 23 July 2016; 21:18)

Re: Petition (64,599) (64,600) by Marissa from USA I think anyone in their right mind knows that a petition won't get Mariah to fire Stella. That's a personal decision and they've grown too close for a petition requesting such a huge overhaul to even work. It's something so extreme that even if a petition for that got 10,000 signatures, it would be laughed off within 5 minutes and ignored. I think that 90% of the issues that people have with Stella would be resolved if her family no longer had a stronghold of Mariah's social media/PR, so the amount of people who would even want her to get fired would likely decrease. If Mariah reconnects with her fans, a lot of the possible stunts that Stella might attempt to pull wouldn't stand a chance because Mariah would finally have access to other perspectives besides people on her payroll, so a firing wouldn't even be necessary in my opinion. Everything else like her child constantly being an adults-only situations, her 9 layers of blush and endless "empower your girls" motivational speeches are annoying, but I think the majority of us are desensitized to it all now. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 21:01)

Re: Petition (64,595) (64,599) by Andrew from UK Oh, honey, when the effects wear off, keep popping. Honestly, good for those who signed the petition. I went to it and read the comments from around the globe and it was good to see so much love. However, with you, you, you, it's all about Mishka and Stella isn't it. You can dress it up anyway you like, adopt Marissa's rather eloquent explanation as a front, but deep down, you wanna *get* Stella & Co. You just wanna get 'em, don't you, sweetheart? You know it, we know it, and you know we know it lol. And if you can't keep up with the conversation, best not join in. Now, I'd love to sit around and chat mental with you, but Snowy and I have some crimes to solve. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 20:37)

So, on another note (64,598) by Haiji Toro from USA If you were given the power to create your next Mariah single, what would it sound like. Please follow these steps. When would it be released? Any collaborations? Ballad or uptempo? Genre? Name one or more songs that would represent the sound (just for imagination purposes). Producers? What are the lyrics about? How would you release it (social media, surprise single, commercial, etc.)? (Saturday 23 July 2016; 19:51)

On a positive note (64,597) by Haiji Toro from USA Ok so, as some may know I'm a huge Mariah music fan/lamb and due to my obsession to this messageboard, I read it every day with my cup of coffee. Like in the real world, I'm one of those people that sits back and listens/observes when others are debating on their own opinions and usually try to stay out of it until asked for my own opinion. I'd like to think that I'm very rational and will always find other's views and points valid in their own way. In this case, no one has asked for my opinion, but I'll state it anyways since you can easily click on that arrow to the next post and just ignore mine if you don't care for it. First, I'd like to apologize for my previous post singling out certain members and only reaching out to a few. I'd love to be able to reach out to every single member on here, including the webmaster, but in reality, not everyone is gonna like me or even care to. I'm ok with that. My point is that especially in a time like this, division is only adding more fuel to this inequality we live in. I'm not about that. I assume we're all adults on here and if not, then those that are, we should be leading by example to the younger generation and teach them about unity and respect. We should all have the right to express our opinions and feelings without disrespect to others. Not everyone is gonna get along and no one is being forced to, but this is the life that was given to us, we didn't choose it. I will not bring up religious beliefs, but my belief is that God put us here, different and all, to live and love each other as one. I'm not black, but I do believe and respect that #blacklivesmatter. I'm not a cop but respect #bluelivesmatter. I specifically believe in #alllivesmatter, but I pray that one day, that will be what we're fighting for. I'm Colombian/Arab, spiritual, gay and a Mariah fan/lamb. It's getting exhausting having to choose and fight for specifics. I started writing this post out of sadness to this divide we have on this message board, that my thoughts and words have lost themselves in jumbled rant. One thing I can say is that however it came out and however you want to take it in, my feelings should be expressed in them. I did sign Marissa's petition and even wrote a note, but I do understand and respect Andrew and Travon's point of view. I just feel that typing them here isn't coming across as it should. I definitely respect that they are standing their ground and behind their beliefs. I just wish that not everything needs to be an argument and just discuss, respect and move on with our own opinions. *This message was brought to you by LonelyAndGotNothingToDo. #lamblivesmatter God bless. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 19:45)

Re: Petition (64,593) (64,596) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Travon, you know I have always stood beside you, even though you didn't ask me to, and I completely respect your decision not to sign it, what I don't get it why you are going on and on trying to belittle an effort Marissa started? I mean if you don't agree with it, that's fine, we already heard that, but why do you have to go on and on as if it's something so stupid that it needs to be buried? I probably was in the wrong to ask you to share it, but in my very next post I said you don't have to if you don't want to. I also stated it has reached the platform I wanted it to reach. So why are you still dissing it? Plus RJJ12 didn't tell you to change your mind and sign it. He just gave an explanation and nothing else. Not once did he write that you are in the wrong for not signing/sharing and that if you don't do it, you don't care for Mariah. The second thing he said was what I said too that it's not true that the other board is "classier". Sure I'll say they have a huge collection of rare Mariah songs and everything Mariah related. They have good points but it doesn't make them classier because they did eventually get locked up, after getting several warnings because of the nature of some of the posters. Of course it will hurt people on this board if you are going to imply we are "not classy enough". We fight, so do people in UKMix. In fact it gets uglier there. Lastly isn't it true that the topics of "airbrushing and lip syncing and money grabbing" are too harsh and would never go down well? I don't get why you just went off on him like that. You were always sweet and nice. This is something I'd express from the Tin Tin of our board who makes personal jabs. Not you. Your decision to not associate yourself with this petition is completely your right, but please don't go about making it look like the people who are signing it are pathetic and don't have their priorities straight. All we are trying to do is take an active step and make a small change. It might not work at all and that's completely fine, but what if it does? It opens the way for us to then directly communicate with Mariah and then you can also just go ahead and make your wishes (of the jazz album) be known. You said you want to look at the bigger picture. The bigger picture here is if Mariah does listen to this, it will lead to her knowing first hand what the fans want. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 19:38)

Petition (64,595) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter People not signing it are also helping without knowing, because they keep trying to diss the petition with more posts but it only leads to more people hearing about it and so we are getting more posts asking where they can sign up for it. I also don't get why people who don't want to sign are getting their frilly undies in a bunch because it's simply a matter of choosing to sign or not. No one asked for explanation, no one questioned their loyalty, no one questioned their intentions. But someone on this board thinks they are above all and is the most intelligent person on the planet and so they have to feed their ego by insulting others and basically calling them stupid. Racism, homophobia and everything in between, nothing is off limits for this individual when it comes to making whatever twisted logic they conjure up. They'll make stupid statements and then when caught, will try to twist it into something else. Keep talking crap, you are helping to keep the petition topic afloat with your post. So instead of one signature from you, we are getting 10. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 19:25)

Re: Petition (64,593) (64,594) by 123 from USA I will read you anytime of the day and you will deal. My education level? Darling I have what you are striving for. Degrees (plural) graduated Cum Laude, dont know what that is, go look it up. I'm in the City while you are in Indiana. I have a career and you make a career of being a Mariah fan. You said all that and missed the point. I didn't sign the petition either, it I'm not on social media nor do I care if she addresses the fans but I will support a good lamb because I know her heart is in the right place. You dissed Marissa and Mimi L and said the other board is classier but yet you still come here, still, and agree with Andrew. I could care less that you've been here two years. I'm going to need you to set your Flesch Kincaid on your Microsoft word and keep typing and using an online thesaurus and when it indicates that you have written something at the 12th grade level, you may reply. Other than that, stay in your lane and know your place. If you missed what I just did, I just removed the piece of gum from the bottom of my Nike sneaker and handed it to you, chew on this. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 19:21)

Re: Petition (64,578) (64,593) by TRAVON AUSTIN from United States Yay you feel a certain way. Good for you but honestly, you can keep my name out of your mouth. I have different views with this petition than everyone else except Andrew. That's rare and I have made that clear. We agree on that and that only. I have been extremely detailed in my responses to make my agreements and points more clear. I do not care for the petition. I will not be signing the petition. I will not be sharing the petition. There is nothing rude or biased about that. I have stated the petition has great points for the lambs that support it. I am never biased and I try to keep an open mind. I even praised the petition and apologized for my lack of caring of it but my stance on this still applies. Also, people can argue for years and finally have an agreement. That is called common sense and I hope you have it. With that being said, Andrew and I have flooded this post for 2 years with arguments and I am happy we finally agree on something. The rest of you can feel a certain way about me with it but I won't care. That's your right. Just remember that I have been Mariah's #1 supporter on this site since the beginning when everyone else were having fits in their own seperate ways. I don't look at something about her at face value and then decide to start a petition. That's my choice. I have a right to that choice just as you guys have a right to do what you see fit. I have made that exremely clear this week. I accept others choices for it as well. It is what it is. I understand the petition but I am always looking at the bigger picture with her. I will ususally let the one eyed monsters try to fight for two eyes while I sit back and wait for a resolution because I am always looking at the overall picture. I alway try to refraim from arguments unless someone comes for me. I have tried to maintain that class while maintaining my dignity. That is not easy when every lamb has their own agendas of Mariah this and Mariah that. So I have decided lately, to just speak my mind. If you don't like it, thats completely fine with me. If you do like it, that's also fine with me. The same people who are upset with me agreeing with a fellow lamb are the same people who don't know how to prioritize their feelings and what they say. Stop being butthurt that I don't agree with this petition. Also, please proofread my posts before you fly off the handle and use my name to make a point. It's declasse and shows your educational level. Have a great day. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 17:17)

Re: I don't think you're ready (64,587) (64,592) by Musti from UK Andrew I see your point but I really don't think a petition with a "don't this, don't that" type of attitude would elicit a positive response. This petition is meant to be a nudge. No one is expecting things to change in a finger snap because of it. Things are pretty embarrassing as they are. I doubt this petition can make it any worse. If it does get embarrassing, at least it will be for the right reasons. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 13:59)

Re: Mariah and The Weeknd (64,586) (64,591) by RibbonB from USA I liked his song Earned It, but I wonder is he just a stepped up version of the Dream? Lol. I do think they could write a good song or two together. 1. I hope she doesn't do a duet with him. 2. So she doesn't do a video with him. Lol. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 13:57)

Re: Being controlled or gave up control? (64,566) (64,590) by RibbonB from USA I think you are right, the truth will come to light. Despite Mariah's brother's negative intentions of a year or so ago, I think he was speaking truth about her inner circle. But I think she went from bad to worse and he has been quiet lately, so I wonder if he has been paid off to be silent. Perhaps he is waiting to see if she actually marries for a third time, so he can seek an even bigger pay day. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 13:53)

You Don't know What To Do (64,589) by Andrew from UK So I have a message about the music (remember those?) and a topic for a petition to Mariah: petition Mariah to make an expensive full-blown kick ass video to You Don't Know What To Do for the lambs and fans. It can be by way of recognising the disappointment surrounding the MIAM promotion in re: personal injury, etc. Full-blown kick-ass video with storyline and special effects and hot guys and girls. Tribute to a banging summer song that should've been released. Who knows, if it's not even targeting the charts and it's just "for the fans", it may still chart high anyway with the video out there, because it's absolutely genius. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 13:49)

I don't think you're ready (64,587) by Andrew from UK For this jelly. I'll explain it in simple terms for you, girls. My issue was with prioritisation. This topic has spurred you into frenzied action but everything else, which is actually of note, received little to no attention from you, whatsoever. I didn't say you should actually start a petition on the aforementioned topics, I merely questioned the temerity of prioritising the topic at hand. I didn't suggest it because I think any petition, personally, is going to be rather wank for Mariah's already shite PR. Look back and you'll even see me as the person raising the topic of Mariah disconnecting from her fans. I think it serious but not serious enough to warrant an embarrassing petition. But each to their own and if you signed it, good for you. Alas, stop trying to be clever. You're clearly not up to the task. What dress has Mariah been seen in lately? Also, having pondered why Mariah has basically professionally stuck two fingers up at her fans, I can conclude that she doesn't care about selling music anymore. If she doesn't need anyone to buy the music, why kiss their ass? People will always go to a concert to hear the greatest hits. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 13:15)

Re: Mariah and The Weeknd (64,579) (64,586) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah also praised him in interviews and said she listens to his work. I think The Weeknd and Mariah's style will go so well together. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 12:23)

Re: Petition (64,573) (64,585) by Marissa from USA Expecting Mariah to magically hear about requests without being tuned into social media is like expecting someone who already hung up on you to hear the rest of your phone conversation. MC running her own social media is the only way we'd have a chance of her becoming aware of any other requests or concerns we might have. If Mariah isn't tuned in and listening to us, aside from not getting the emotional connection back, every desired improvement or vision that we have talked about is hopeless. Set list requests are useless, people begging for Mariah to perform in their country, or people simply wanting her to know how much they admire her might as well shut the hell up. Right now she lives in a vacuum and everything we want Mariah to know and see is filtered through people who don't have zero emotional investment in the lambily. Also, for someone who is suddenly so concerned about how journalists might represent Mariah, it seems strange that the issues that you wanted to petition about were the most likely to humiliate her. Her own fans publicly calling her out on lipsyncing, photoshop, and cheating lambs from quality meet and greets in a petition? On what planet is that flattering or immune to getting negative media attention? That is the type of mess that Wendy and tabloids live for. If you are going to fake concern for her representation you're gonna have to do a much better job than that, because you just undermined your whole argument. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 10:48)

Petition (64,584) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter What is funny is that Andrew loves Mariah so much that he has a problem with us asking Mariah to simply post herself once in a while on her social media, because he thinks it will be picked up by some crooked journalist who might spin it in a way that's bad like "Oh wow Mariah Carey doesn't post herself, shocker", but yet he is the one who just few posts ago complained about how we should have instead focused on more "important" topics which is to petition for Mariah to "stop lip-syncing, airbrushing, poor interviews and money-grabbing meet and greets". Pray tell me Andrew how would this go down if some journalist got a hold of that petition? Would they spin it into something nice? Or much more horrible than fans simply asking Mariah to post on her own social media? You clearly don't have your mind set about what you want. You can't decide whether you want to bitch about Mariah or whether you love her so much you are afraid this petition might hurt her image. It can't be the latter though since you are the one suggesting we should have instead chose the other topics which would definitely have been an indirect dig. What your main concern seems to be here is that you are going to push your love for Stella, not because you like her, but because you just have to disagree with people for fun. Well neither Marissa, nor I, even said anything bad about Stella there. We just asked for Mariah to post. Don't try to spin it in whatever way you like. Either sign, or don't. No one is forcing you to do anything. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 5:02)

Re: Petition (64,578) (64,583) by RibbonB from USA I agree. Lambs have been sorely lacking in unity the past several months. Whether people like Stellar and crew or not, we are all here for Mariah and the petition is a way to show support for her and just to say come back and communicate personally sometimes. Even the first lady personally tweets from time to time and she is identified by placing her own initials. There are so many polarizing topics that would have muddied the petition. As it is, it's a moment for fans to express love and concern for Mariah. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 4:50)

Re: The petition is in full effect (64,523) (64,582) by Musti from UK I signed it too. Thank you for creating the petition. Mariah is the first artist to name her followers and she frequently brags about her connection to us. Considering she used to leave us voice messages (another first for any artist, if I'm not mistaken), things have definitely changed on her official pages. I understand her life has changed but it wouldn't take much of her time to have some personal input in her own posts. Unfortunately the hashtagged photos often posted have done little to maintain the existing connections. If anything, the photos are repeated reminders of many connections crippled. Her social media lacks substance. It needs to be handled by a professional. (Saturday 23 July 2016; 4:30)

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