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Re: Infinity (61,120) (61,132) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Theory: I feel like it wouldn't be as hated if it actually reached #1. That may not make sense, I know, but if a song is a hit, it's gonna spark some herd mentality. Eventually people are gonna be curious as to why or how it accomplished such feat. That sense of intrigue may slowly help the song grow on some people. And that can be infectious. For instance, Rihanna is Rihanna and her releases may be guaranteed success on hype alone because she still is hot stuff. But a song like Work is definitely acquired taste, and seriously, who could have expected it to stay that long atop the charts? How? Herd mentality. Once a song tops the charts, it could pique your interest long enough to come to like it. If that happened to Infinity, we may not necessarily have warmed up to it, but we would have appreciated it because it was her 19th #1. (Friday 8 April 2016; 13:08)

Re: Meet and greets confusions be clear people (61,123) (61,131) by Bill from the UK Egg hair? (Friday 8 April 2016; 13:03)

To Juan, an apology (61,130) by Tiina from Finland Dear Juan, I never meant to offend you and I feel terrible that I did. I want to apologize to you, I'm very sorry. I hope you can forgive me for wrongfully assuming things. You seemed like a bubbly, fun person and I was genuinely happy for you when you came out so excited and I congratulated you. This is none of your fault at all. You were there as a fan like we all were. I guess you thought that I was saying you were being calculative or manipulative by standing last in line? Absolutely not. As far as I knew the line was formed randomly. I just assumed that Mariah's team chose the last person in line for the documentary because it was convenient. I didn't learn about your story until now. Hearing about your message makes me glad you were the one chosen to be featured in the documentary, honestly, your message deserves to be heard and I'm still excited for you. But, you see, we all deserved at least to have a successfully taken picture because we paid for it. And no, it's not just about the money but certainly it does matter after paying 700 euros just for the ticket. My point in bringing up buying a new dress and getting my hair and makeup done is not to boast but to just share how much I had been preparing for that special moment and for that picture that I so wanted to turn out good because meeting Mariah meant everything to me and I wanted it to be memorable because it was one of the highlights of my life. I don't think that makes me a bad person or a diva. I'm extremely thankful to my family for helping me financing the experience because I couldn't have done it without their support. I'm also very, very grateful to have had the opportunity to meet Mariah. That is a huge blessing and unfortunately some of the biggest lambs never get to do that because it's so expensive. I was just disappointed that we were being rushed through the whole thing and that they couldn't wait just a couple seconds for me to get positioned. Most of us spent only such a brief moment with Mariah that it went by in a blink of an eye and I wasn't the only one who was upset. I was talking to another fan there when you came out and she told me that she had been a lamb since 1994, dreaming of this moment ever since she was 12, and she was shocked that it only lasted some seconds for the money she spent on the ticket and because she thought she'd get to talk with Mariah. But we both agreed that we were still happy to have been part of it. Anyway, I don't even feel like discussing it anymore. What happened, happened. Juan, I wish you all the best now and in the future, and I mean it. Stay strong, my friend. (Friday 8 April 2016; 12:57)

Re: Meet and greets confusions be clear people (61,123) (61,129) by darrian liu from taiwan Umm not to disturb anything, but Marissa's post was directed to Andrew. (Friday 8 April 2016; 12:28)

Re: Meet and greet mess (61,103) (61,127) by Liz Archer from Sweden In a way I understand what you mean and I think it is a shame. I think it's the wrong formula. What she really should do is like a book or conference signing. Have people come to her to give an autograph and take a photo with the person in line. That way the person has a chance to speak to her shortly and get a real photo but understand she can't speak with you for 5 minutes since others are also in line. Many tv celebs do that in these fan gatherings and those pics can be quite funny. (Friday 8 April 2016; 11:00)

The meet and greet saga (61,126) by MimiLamb from Germany I'm sorry to hear that some have a bad aftertaste. I kind of knew it was going to be very short, so I decided right away I wasn't going for that ticket. Every person is different but I will never understand why people go in debt for something like concert tickets and everything that goes with that. For me, if I don't have the budget, I'm not doing it. Don't let the negative feeling rule the fact that you did meet her, even if it was brief. This way you are making it worse and worse for yourself, that is such a shame. (Friday 8 April 2016; 10:32)

Re: Emotions (61,088) (61,125) by darrian liu from taiwan To be fair, nobody else could sing Emotions like Mariah can. Only Mariah really could breathe life to that song. I can't imagine any other artists singing Emotions as well as Mariah did. (Friday 8 April 2016; 8:31)

Why you mad ? (61,124) by Tijl from Belgium Reading all those complaints about dem lambs not getting the attention they anticipated during these meet and greet events makes me laugh. What did you expect? A moment of splashes and festivity? Becoming best friends and staying over in the butterfly room at her Tribeca pad? Get real guys. You have met the lady in the flesh and have a lovely memory of it. My concert got cancelled and we get refunds, not even a new date. (Friday 8 April 2016; 7:23)

Meet and greets confusions be clear people (61,123) by juan manuel benabu from Argentina or Spain I think there is a big confusion here about "meet and greet". Somebody read the bases before buying their tickets? "Opportunity to meet, photo opportunity, nothing more." No one said [...] etc. Simple, what said in the foundations of purchase? Few, almost anyone, written, "I met her that's good." Only complaints, you are fans or foes. We are talking about a "big star" which years did not make tours (another example U2, do concerts for decades) least in Europe and facing attacks and Belgium, the artist being "American" and just focus for an explosive disaster. She couldn't canceled the tour and point, for their safety and that's all. She stayed. Clearly Mimi is making this tour exclusively by us, his fans. Does someone made accounts how much she will has net to her pocket? Almost nothing. Mimi earns millions in "Las Vegas" without leaving her residence. Almost daily concerts, in all Europe. Singing live really well. You can not jump hours with everyone, it would be chaos, and would not have forces for their next concert, the next day, in my case. Marissa humble? Who are you to judge me? Just clarify how was the meet and greet Helsinki, my answer to you. I wish you well hear it again. As you can see, I'm new to this blog, and between, with the support of other two fans, who were also in the "meet" and read the sad commentary of Tiina, very offended by what was said by Tiina. I think speaks with little humility about your expenses. I sold all to see her not spend. She gave us opportunity, who one had something "serious or gravity to telling". All that have done the "meet" know the rules, no touch, no gifts, she heard me, she cried. She accepted the cross of my grandmother. Come on stop to judge. Security should push me put and she stop all. I'm not happy being sick, less my daughter, talk about it with her and us, I would have liked, just take my picture and tell her "thank you for existing", in my case, had other things to say. Do not love, no thanks. There are things to do Mimi. I think that's why she took attention point. Even if he wanted to make more money, he would have sold fragrances. Had she given tester promotion and selling "Mariah" sell and autograph album was not so. Here is not money win talk about. The bracelet she gifted us, I believe that the gift is precious and unique souvenir. Has everything all Mimi symbols, the butterfly, infinity, etc. and candle smells incredible and is high quality, they only sold 20 per concert, meet and greets. who had the opportunity to be there is a blessed already. Already know it is worth the money, because nobody knows what can happen tomorrow, she can leave this world and there will be not meet, or anything or without going too far. If she didn't make her European tour, go to Las Vegas. At last I paid 1000 to meet her was economic. Around 3000 cost Las Vegas from Europe, stay, travel, tickets, etc fewer complaints and more thanks, and see the good side of everything, not seek evil where there is none, or egg hair. For her would be better to be in Las Vegas winning more, without any risk for attack war like today we are living. I give her a 10. As a person and artist, I'm blessed person. More love and less envy an ridiculous jealousy, I wish you well everybody if not. Be nice or leave lambs, have a good night everybody from Helsinki. (Friday 8 April 2016; 4:07)

Re: Connecting with the fans (61,119) (61,122) by juan manuel benabu from Argentina or Spain I wish you well. (Friday 8 April 2016; 2:43)

Yikes (61,121) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia It's like an episode of Oprah up in here. So here's my Oprah-ism: You can't change the past, so stop trying or dwelling on it. Just quietly though, I'm not surprised. I'm probably going to get annihilated for saying this, but generally people who are as beautiful/wealthy/successful as Mariah don't give a lot of thought to anyone outside of their immediate circle. The whole "being connected to my fans" is likely a PR/marketing thing. Does that change anything? No, because regardless of the type of person she is, she's still an incredible singer and songwriter, which really, is all I'm looking for from the woman. (Friday 8 April 2016; 1:56)

Infinity (61,120) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Wanted a change of subject. I love this song so much. I don't understand the hate it gets. I actually love it. I've been around the world a lot since its release, and I always put it on as the plane takes off. Just love it. Big, big fan of this amazing song. Never ignore this or pretend it didn't happen, Mariah. Some of us love it. (Friday 8 April 2016; 0:55)

Re: Connecting with the fans (61,114) (61,119) by Marissa from USA You clearly have an inflated sense of self-importance if you think no one else can comment on an issue you've already spoken on it. You're not the god of this messageboard. Humble yourself. (Friday 8 April 2016; 0:10)

Re: Meet and greet mess (61,098) (61,118) by juan manuel benabu from Argentina or Spain Lies complete lies. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 23:43)

Helsinki M&G Tlina why be nasty? the fan on reality (61,117) by juan manuel benabu from Argentina or Spain Well, where can I start? I'm Juan Manuel Benabu, "the last fan in the Meet & Greet Helsinki to know Mimi " (the one into reality) that Tlina is talking about. In her [censored], [censored] or [censored] post that she's done. So sad Mariah was not looking at the camera in your picture. Picture reflects your feelings Tlina maybe think twice. The idea is to know her, share a moment [censored]. You've been very nervous at the meet and greet, I remembered you past through me, leaving, shaking your hands, so nervous. It's understandable you aren't happy, maybe your picture is not "the best" but why do you speak in that way about the meet? Well as she said, yes. I prayed and have faith to be part in the Mariah reality, [...] I'm not OK. I have a babe who is 12 years old and I am 29. And more, much more to let the world know, I've been a long time with Mariah and recording. Why? [...] my health is not OK. (Do you prefer to be sick or nice have a picture?) Looking in, you can look amazing but inside? First reason why Mimi gave me my time, was for love and to help people in the future. You must be happy for this, you knew it, you saw me jumping crying, blessed, but you didn't mention the important part of Helsinki concert and meet a future foundation. Sad. You only let us know your dress came from America like me and diva details. Why I have more time maybe? I have important things to say to the world. I came from Buenos Aires. From Buenos Aires to Helsinki, hello? Lot of people helped me to come and make the dream of lots of persons come true. To speak my truth to her, noy for a picture. That's why I asked to be the last. I sold all I did not have to come. I didn't ask for an American dress or do my hair. And yes I was blessed for Mimi, I gifted to her, hand by hand, the cross diamond of my grand-grand mother (the only expensive and most special thing I do not have, and now it is in her hands. I know my grandma cares for me from heaven. When it was my turn I didn't even look at the camera, I directly spoke all my truth, I don't need a picture. The moment is in our hearts. That's why Mariah was shocked. And I got her atention and everybody in the room, wait and see to believe. I said to Mariah you like my smile? She said yes. I'm loosing my teeth thanks to Truvada aids tratement, I was raped when I was 19 years old. Even my daugther is not ok. And much more. See it in the reality, I took from my neck the cross and said it is for you. I will not leave it in other hands than yours. She took it and when she saw the real diamond, she said "I can't take this." Yes you can and you will I said, I believe in her. Speaking with forces and truth and she turned and cried. She did and gave me this bless and amazing opotunity. [...] I can not believe what Im reading that you posted, when I went out the meet, you were there so angry. There is when you can see [...] one, is [...] one. You must be happy for the foundation, it will be open, "world happy smiles" I told you, and everybody outside the truth, everybody was nervous. I took too much time with her. Anna, Vai, reals lambs that werehappy not for me. For what she will do in the future. I spoke with my heart and now I read all this. You don't metions the important things. The world is not only you and your picture. You are not ok, that's why maybe your picture is not good too. You expected other things, a diva picture, not to meet her. Mariah was the most sweet sweet person I met in my sad and tired life. It was something amazing, special as her, as me and [...] people around the world. Not everybody. As I said to Mimi, not everybody is equal. Thank Jesus not everybody is in my [...] situation. What did you say to her? I brought my dress from America? Hello babe. If she took her time with me, it was for some reason, and you listened me shouted blessed, but you didn't say she will help you. No you and your egoist picture. You didn't have the minimum detail to take the real important thing of my meeting with her. I will pray for you and you get your chance to take another lovely picture as you've been waiting for it. You must pray for the people that don't eat or are dying in the world. I have faith, I still believe, and who do I know if I don't speak, if I never tried? When we are not good persons, life [..] this. You've been there for her or for the picture? The choir took pictures with me, not everybody. Why? I run behind her and I was humorous, and told her "do not go without giving me a kiss". You [...] on makeup [...], and you know, I had stained my face with her dark makeup and no one has told me anything in the room. I had half of my face black and nobody told me anything. Jealousy? My picture was a real disaster and all the people, all the lambs were there. Nobody told me nothing. So sad from your side. I believe Jesus, life, our energies can move mountains, with faith, real love and feelings and always give the best of you, life was hard with me, too hard, that I really know what is one day more. One smile. I'm still in Helsinki a few days more, so we can talk when you wish, but you are really confused. I have only love inside me, no matter how they tried to destroy my life, as a human, I have faith in Mariah Carey. With 10 years olds I was violated by a teacher, and my English teacher gave my Hero to translate and learn word in english. I saw the first video of her when I was 19. I was very very poor, no computer. Not knowing who makes these amazing notes. I have a panic attack thanks the two violations in my life. I can sleep if I don't listen to "Through the rain". I have been working for 12 years, living alone in Europe, I saw my babe 3 times in 10 years. Only 3 more for you to destroy. That is the reason why I get it. When we understand the principal point in life. You will understand me and you will understand why maybe you have not the best picture. I pray and wish I can help everybody. I'm Juan Manuel Benabu (Facebook) and this is my history. We're gonna share to the world. They can try but through the rain I looked inside and became a hero. Bless lambs. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 23:42)

Andrew and the glass of Cristal (61,116) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales I'm glad you got my humour. I absolutely run away with myself in terms of ideas of what it would be. In many ways, I think Mariah could take the diva lessons from me. I love this board and have been visiting since 2003. I adore everybody here, even the much love-to-hate Andrew. We all have an opinion and a part to play, and I love being part of this ridiculously over the top, diverse family. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 23:24)

Dear Mariah (61,115) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales I know that you don't know me, and you probably never will. Meeting you and having the opportunity not just to see you again in concert but have my extremely brief time with you means more to me than you will ever know, but I have to say these few words. You have inspired and encouraged me so much over the years, your talent, character and ability to make me feel like I'm a special and worthwhile person has been otherworldly. I feel like we are kindred spirits. I'm an anomaly in life, and I feel you are, too. But you own it, you accept it and you embrace it. That makes me feel it's ok for me to do so, too. Thank you so, so much for everything you have done for me from afar. I know you're not perfect, and I love that about you. It's what draws me to you, time and again. I know that you're a diva, I know that you're out of my world and in your own, but just admiring someone like you, who I feel represents outsiders, makes me feel acceptable. I'll never forget that moment in time I spent with you, and I can only say that I always send you love, good wishes and happiness from my small corner of your world. You are an idol, an inspiration and a person whom deserves the success and adulation you relieve. If it's possible to love somebody from afar, I love you, Miss Carey. Please continue to shine. There are many who's light you exude rely on. From a most appreciative and grateful lamb, Anthony. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 23:19)

Re: Connecting with the fans (61,110) (61,114) by Andrew from UK Lol pretty sure I sorta just said that? Oh well. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 23:16)

Re: Wojtek (61,113) by Joanna from Poland Wojtek I totally understand you. I hope that for that money you have a good seat at least. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 22:35)

Re: Connecting with the fans (61,110) (61,112) by Giovanni from USA I completely agree. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 21:38)

Re: The meet-and-greet moneymaker (61,111) by Giovanni from USA Stop making excuses for Mariah. Hundreds of dollars for less than a minute with her along with one lousy photo isn't worth it at all. And why does she charge for it? She doesn't need the money. The whole thing is sorry if you ask me. A meet and greet should at least be an hour. Or long enough to have a chat along with answering questions from a fan. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 21:31)

Connecting with the fans (61,110) by Marissa from USA Tiina, I am sorry that you experience didn't go as planned. I understand why you treated this situation like an investment by getting a new outfit and your makeup done, because by the looks of all of the meet-and-greets we've seen on her TV specials, it does seem like you would have had a much fuller experience than a 7 second encounter. It's misleading. My question is that since she doesn't run her social media anymore, has very rushed meet-and-greets, and does an extremely low amount of interviews compared to other artists, where are these mythical moments where she actually does "connect with the fans?" Connecting with the fans was back when she was actively on Twitter, writing her own captions on Instagram, leaving voicemails on her website, or back in 2011 and 2012 where she would post a lot of candid videos to her YouTube page of her traveling around the world and her creating of Worldwide Lamb Day (or whatever it was called). Her being busy is not an excuse for her pulling back because she has always (caps) been busy. One might argue that Mariah's World is an opportunity to connect with the fans, but it still is a show that needs to pull in ratings, so there will have to be staged stunts and scenarios in order for it to look interesting, so the candor we were getting from those YouTube vids back in '11 and '12 probably won't happen. Now "the special connection I have with my lambs" just sounds like a regurgitated line that doesn't carry that much meaning and it's disappointing. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 21:06)

Re: Meet and greet mess (61,099) (61,109) by Wojtek from Poland The problem is that the other conditions were given the ticket, and others are now. We have been misled when purchasing tickets. And one of the organizers do not feel guilty. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 21:02)

G4 (61,108) by Billy from Greece I can't get over that G4 here. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 20:56)

Re: The meet-and-greet moneymaker (61,093) (61,107) by B from USA Personally, I think a few minutes with Mariah and a photo with her is priceless so complaining about it is senseless. You weren't the only person she had to meet and greet. New topic. (Thursday 7 April 2016; 20:24)

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