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Re: Rockefeller / Andrew (58,187) (58,194) by Andrew from UK Martyn, I think Team Andrew is just you and me, chuck. But I submit it is the. coolest. team. ever. I agree the "phone call" idea is unproven - I should have put "allegedly". However, Mariah is renowned for being late and keeping people waiting for hours. I am not saying the Rockefeller lateness deserved releasing the mic feed, but Mariah kept everyone waiting for three hours in the rain and then, on the night, gave a very bad vocal performance. It is perfectly possible, and perhaps likely, that Mariah isn't performing at Rockefeller this year because she hasn't been invited. (Friday 4 December 2015; 0:40)

Re: Rockefeller (58,191) (58,193) by Marissa from USA I wouldn't give Rockefeller the time of day after last year's scandal. If Mariah's not performing there ever again I totally support her decision. I understand being mad that someone is late but releasing that mic feed was just evil. I would not want to bless the same people that humiliated me with improved vocals. I vote no. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 22:50)

Re: Roc "these people" (58,184) (58,192) by Marissa from USA I hope Mariah shuts that down because apparently Nick won't. Who would be proud of their kids saying that? (Thursday 3 December 2015; 22:44)

Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,191) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Attempting to see something from someone's point of view does not equate to making them into a "victim". No, Mariah is not perfect and yes people were miffed at having to wait. We don't know what went on that day, there is only tabloid speculation on that. But it was clear to me watching that performance, that something personal was going on. Something heavy. I'm sure there are those who say, "This is her job, she should just suck it up." Sometimes when you are in the thick of life unfolding, things don't feel all that black and white. It's a grey area and we all have them. She is at choice where she performs, and I'm not surprised she's chosen not to do this event right now. Again, I think she's done with videos and feeds being released for the purpose of creating scandal and she's taking a stand on the issue. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 20:13)

Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,190) by Luke from United Kingdom Nobody knows what held her up. She did apologise and came back to do a live performance which she could have avoided altogether. I definitely don't think it warranted her being humiliated. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 17:59)

Re: Rockefeller (58,183) (58,189) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter We don't really know why she was late. Last year she was clearly not in a good place. That being said, maybe her team could have informed the crew that she won't make it, but it doesn't justify the shame she had to go through. I can understand some angry staff member leaking the footage, but NBC as a corporate entity should have stood behind Mariah, an artist they called in to get people more interested in the event. I heard that NBC replaced the official video of the performance with the mic feed once it leaked. That was in bad taste too, especially since even in her broken state Mariah's interview on their channel got them millions in live viewers. Just saying, one shouldn't mix their personal feelings with business. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 17:35)

Stubhub ticket listing ID #: 1174071283 (58,188) by Kevyn from United States of America Mariah Carey tickets for December 18th, 2015 at 8:00 PM to sell. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 17:18)

Rockefeller / Andrew (58,187) by Martyn from England, UK I usually am Team Andrew on most things, but you're talking about tabloid rumours as though they are fact. We all know how much the tabloids love to trash Mariah, so I wouldn't take the story of her being "on the phone" as gospel. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 16:41)

The legends panel (58,186) by Lee TS from USA I hope I'm not the only one. This is too much laughs lol. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 15:26)

Re: Rockefeller (58,174) (58,183) (58,185) by Lee TS from USA So what you're saying is like, an eye for an eye? Mariah deserved it? Please take your BS elsewhere dahling. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 14:37)

Roc "these people" (58,184) by Lee TS from USA Besides Mariah, Roc is taking in Nick's personality as well. When Howard Stern asked Nick if his children uses the N word, he said Roc does and that's his little man. Ummm, I guess. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 13:59)

Re: Rockefeller (58,174) (58,183) by Andrew from UK She kept the public and crew waiting for three hours in the rain and told them she was "on the phone". Somebody retaliated. Not sure Mariah was a victim there. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 13:27)

Busta bust (58,182) by Lee TS from USA Hmmm, after listening to The Lambily Meeting, I would agree with them that maybe Mariah should cancel her appearance and stay home to rest in preparation for Beacon. To move Mariah from NY to NJ must be a whole production, and we know hair and makeup must at least take 3 hours minimum. I know we're glad it's just the flu and she can make jokes about it, but she did go to the hospital. She needs to stay in bed and rest, order The Good Dinosaur and watch it with the kids. I rather her be 100% at her own show than killing herself over a favor for a friend. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 12:26)

Re: Steve Harvey (58,178) (58,181) by Pau from Mexico I just watched the interview too and it is just weird how watching the whole program without the editing changed 100% my opinion about her stiffness and awkwardness. Mariah appeared with a very down to earth and likeable attitude. She looked calm and mature, and I'd say somehow careful with her responses but still being honest. The interview was really well thought and scripted, seemed like a favor from Steve to MC and from her to him. I'm really impressed, her publicist and Stella are really doing their work. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 10:23)

Re: AIWFCIY acoustic version with new 95-96ish vocals (58,169) (58,180) by Bill from the UK Hi Mandy. The vocals on the acoustic version are all from the original 1994 session. Usually many takes will be done or the song sang numerous different ways before deciding on the final version. It is not an official remix and wasn't from Sony being hacked. It was made by an indepedent remixer who managed to get hold of the original vocal track from 1994. Not sure how he managed that, but assume he has a friend at Sony that was able to get them. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 7:26)

Vegas (58,179) by OGmattyICE from US I'm 23 and a diehard Mariah fan like there's no other in the world I think is better. I saw her live for the first time ever in Vegas in May (which happened to be the show they filmed Infinity at) and was considering seeing her again in Vegas coming up in a few months and was seeing what you all thought? Yay or nay? Will she be performing much longer? (Thursday 3 December 2015; 7:02)

Steve Harvey (58,178) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So I just watched the interview (watch the link if you are interested). I really liked it. I saw a lot of lambs on other boards talking about how Mariah looked unfocused or not interesting or whatever. I thought the interview went great. Mariah was sweet, slightly funny and classy and cute. The interview was fun to watch. She answered stuff directly and made small jokes. I laughed when she threw shade at Glitter. (Mimi get a hold of yourself, Glitter is a lamb cult classic, stop bashing it. Ugh these people. *like Roc*) Finally a long interview with Mariah. I really hope though that we get another long serious interview of her like the ones she did with Oprah or Larry King or Barbara Walters. But for now, I am satisfied with this interview. Can't wait for the Busta Rhymes concert footage to surface. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 6:56)

Re: AIWFCIY acoustic version with new 95-96ish vocals (58,169) (58,177) by darrian liu from taiwan It's actually the original AIWFCIY vocals in 94, I'm not sure about when the scats were recorded. This is actually a fan remix and he got the lead vocal stem from the hack. It was a breathtaking remix seriously, [...] I love it so much my heart hurts. Thanks Mandy for sharing this gem, I need Mariah to discover this and sing it live. Release it. Perform it. [...] I live for this remix. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 4:42)

Our poor Mimi (58,176) by darrian liu from taiwan I'll pray that she would get well really soon. I hope she takes lots of rest and eat well so that she'll recover soon. She's so determined and professional, she still came to Pier 1 even if she's sick. Don't take it too much Mimi, I really hope you'll be healthy soon enough. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 4:33)

Mariah Twitter (58,175) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA "Thank you lambily for all the well wishes, I'm feeling much better now. Go and get your flu shots." (Thursday 3 December 2015; 4:30)

Rockefeller (58,174) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter As much as I would want Mariah to get on that damn stage and sing her derriere off to shut everyone up (I am sick of last year's meme's and videos surfacing again), but I will respect her wishes if she doesn't perform. I think NBC did her wrong by not backing her up and letting her get embarrassed like this. I would however like her to sing it somewhere else maybe which will be televised and not just Beacon because Mariah Carey is not done with this business yet, she is just getting started. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 3:17)

Re: AIWFCIY acoustic version with new 95-96ish vocals (58,169) (58,173) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Although the acoustic version is really good, I feel what made AIWFCIY is the burst of festiveness in it. The song probably would not have become such a huge hit if it was stripped down. The background score and the over-festiveness (in a good way) is what made the song a holiday staple. It just makes you want to get out of your chair and jam to it while simultaneously busting into weird holiday dance moves blending it in with signature Mariah gestures. Side note, I also love the version she did with Fallon. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 3:14)

An analogy (58,172) by Jared from USA Remember how in Mean Girls, Cady (Lindsay Lohan) reflects that it might have been okay to say that Damian is "too gay to function" among the clique consisting of her, Damian (Daniel Franzese) and Janis (Lizzy Caplan), but it's not okay to talk about him that way with other people. I feel like it should be okay for us lambs to talk about Mariah openly - even negatively (but always respectfully) - in a forum like this (within our lambily), but it's not okay to mock her or deride her in public forums including but not limited to YouTube and Facebook. Yes, a casual admirer might stumble upon such comments and run with them, but it seems very unlikely considering the countless readily available online distractions that an outsider would happen to take the time to read what Mariah's fans think about her every move. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 1:36)

Apostasy of the Lambs (58,171) by Jared from USA Maybe I'm not that into her. Or maybe I'm a "moderate" in practicing Mariahism, and not a fundamentalist worshipper. The few times I post a negative opinion of her doings, I am declared an apostate, a goat in lambs' clothing, told to consider "divorcing" her, and mocked by someone who sounds like they need to consider having a professional evaluate their mental health. Am I supposed to applaud and hand over dollars every time Mariah takes a dump? Is that what it takes to be a true lamb? Wait, Benny Medina is telepathically sending me orders to continue spreading negativity. He says I'm now on JLo's payroll, and the money will be in my checking account via direct deposit by tomorrow. I would love to live in Dreamville where apparently some people are connected to her on a cosmic level, but I can't afford to. I've already spent thousands of dollars on merch and tickets for Mariah Carey, not to mention countless hours of enjoying (and discussing) her output in music, television and film. How sad. I promise you, I'm not a troll, and anyone who wants to practice Mariahism with me without having to declare holy war on the dissenters will find me in the orchestra section of the Beacon theatre on December 14. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 1:18)

Get well soon Mariah (58,170) by Ardis Logic from Earth Sending lots of love and positive healing energy to Mariah Carey right now. I hate being sick. I hope she can gey over this quickly. We need her to be in tip top shape come this weekend. Love you Mimi. (Thursday 3 December 2015; 0:10)

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