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I'm done (48,251) by B from USA This is a fan site. A messageboard dedicated to all things Mariah. Her latest performance wasn't terrible, she sang beautifully. Yes, she failed to hit the high notes and got a little pitchy but she recovered and finished it on a high note. Until the hate dies down I'm taking a break from visiting this site. It's always negative. Some of you are never, ever happy. (Friday 5 December 2014; 1:21)

Honestly, what do people want from Mariah? (48,250) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada If she lip-syncs during a performance, social media goes on a rampage. When she sings live and doesn't sound exactly like 1990-1996 social mediaites are ready to rip her a new one and bring her legacy into question. To me, that steals all the joy out of watching a performance in the first place. Last night was a live performance. I appreciate when live performances "sound" live. Did it sound flawless? No. But, when I watch her sing, I don't do it because I want to point out how bad she sounds. I don't expect her to sound like she did on the 1994 recording. I get that the vocal wasn't perfect, but it certainly wasn't horrendous either. (Friday 5 December 2014; 0:53)

All I Want For Christmas Is You related tidbits (48,249) by Lee TS from USA Here's a performance of 5th Harmony singing AIWFCIY. Now I hope you guys won't be shady and dismiss them, at least I did at one point. I thought they were just some silly girl group but they're actually really talented. I think these young girls did an amazing job and I see them paying homage to Mariah. I am a fan of their song Sledgehammer. Love him or hate him but here's a new clip of Walter discussing the song. (Friday 5 December 2014; 0:45)

Baby, are you listening? (48,248) by Edward from USA Baby, I agree with you 100%. Mariah's voice is in great shape and always has been. People don't understand that Nick put some drown-her-high-notes powder from a NY bodega in her tea so she couldn't perform well. And there was a fan in the audience that gave her the eye too. I agree with you that her performance was phenomenal, one of a kind. Such haters should go away. Baby, don't let the haters make you go psychotic, it is not worthy and it might affect your health. We need your very well balanced opinions here. They are much needed. (Friday 5 December 2014; 0:16)

Mariah's going through a tough time (48,247) by Darryle from USA With people bashing her voice, raising kids, and a divorce Mariah's probably been having a really crappy last few months. I really hope things can change for her. She probably using the lambily as crutch for support. It sucks to see her so sad. She might look happy right now but to quote her "she smiles through a thousand tears". Here's to hoping that Mariah will see better days soon. (Friday 5 December 2014; 0:11)

Mic feed / voice condition (48,246) by Darryle from USA I think the performance was so so. Not good, not great, but not terrible like some are making it out to be. She missed the previous one where you can pre-record your performance but she still wanted to perform so she did it live knowing the condition her voice is in so I commend her for that. But, her voice is in bad condition. She cracked a lot during the performance and even cleared her throat after the whistle. Mariah's got to start taking care of her voice. Her voice isn't gone, it's just in horrible condition. In 2013 or 2012 I think she was still touring and she sounded really good. But now her voice is terrible. Not because it's gone but because of things like drinking too much and no vocal rest. I hate to admit it but Mariah's damaging her own voice. When Mariah cuts down on the splashes and goes back to humidifiers vocal rest and warm ups I think we'll see a big improvement. (Friday 5 December 2014; 0:02)

"The" performance (48,245) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales What the hell is up with this planet? Mariah is an incredible singer/songwriter, and, regardless of potential vocal issues that may or may not be repairable, she is an incredible artist for so many reasons. She is also worthy of being an idol; she doesn't do drugs, she doesn't fall out of clubs drunk, she doesn't bad mouth or belittle and she holds herself with a grace and class that is seriously lacking in so many others. I think the reason the world media hates on her so much is because they really do think she is perfect, or perceive her as so, and because they could never hope to reach even a tenth of her class they instead hate her. I'm sick to death of hearing Mariah-bashing. I will be one of her Warrior Lambs, and the naysayers be damned. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 23:46)

Fantasy Remix vs YDKWTD (48,244) by Jono from USA Hey lambs. So stepping aside from the negativity, I'm currently listening to the Fantasy Remix feat. ODB and I suddenly realized how similar YDKWTD sounds to it. From the opening vocal runs by Mariah with the guest rapper speaking over it, to the groovy dance beat, to the rapping style, it just reminded me so much of this classic remix. I wonder if Mariah drew major inspiration from it. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 23:46)

Mariah the vocal baby angel slayer (48,243) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End So now Mariah's vocals are suffering from denial but it will all go away if she just stops making excuses? What excuses has she made and when? You'd think every time Mariah didn't hit a belted G5 a baby angel dies in Heaven the way some of you want her crucified. In whose universe is that sentiment even remotely sanctioned lamb behaviour? The Rockefeller performance was great. No one in the galaxy sings AIWFCIY like Mariah. No one. Same goes for every other song in her catalogue. Ask DJ Clue. That's why fans of lesser singers get so damned pressed that even when Mariah doesn't sing every note perfectly she still slays them all on their best day. It's a free world so go ahead and be a hater for life if that's what makes you happy. But I'm a lamb for life and loving it. *plays the Glitter soundtrack* (Thursday 4 December 2014; 23:39)

AIWFCIY with isolated vocals (48,242) by Philipp from Switzerland I just watched and listened to the isolated vocals and come on people, it ain't so bad. I admit she didn't hit three high notes and her voice cracked, but I thought the rest was okay. Definitely not as horrible as the critics are saying. Keep your head up Mariah. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 23:36)

Eternally 12 vs elusively 21 / Nick Cannon (48,241) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Last night Nick favourited this on Twitter: "Did Nick Cannon get Mariah's voice in the divorce?" It got de-favourited sometime in the last 12 hours. Nick Cannot's such a douche he gives Tommy a run for his money. It's funny how random people want Mariah to be an alcoholic so bad they'll make up rumours and spread it like manure. She couldn't possibly be emotionally and physically affected over things that have been going on in her personal life. She's been suffering from broken bones and a broken heart since at least last year. People who won't see that are obviously not lambs. All they want her to do is sing-sing like it's 1996. They'll dog Mariah for her eternally 12 spirit like she's promoting teenage-pregnancy, gang-violence, drug-abuse and unsafe sex but it turns around and salivate over her early 20's. They Mariah hate, it's like it's a fetish at this point. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:59)

In a polite society (48,240) by Dove from USA It does seem personal how the media portrays Mariah. What do they get out of leaking the isolated vocals and publicly humiliating her? We all heard it, we know her voice has changed since 1994, can't we just celebrate her for all she's accomplished the last 24 years? Another thing I've noticed is that in almost every article they use really unflattering pictures of her. It's almost dehumanizing. I can easily find flattering pictures using Google search, why can't they? And a lot of interviewers are super rude to her. One that I watched again recently is when Mariah went on The View to promote MOAIA. Barbara W. was being super rude and asked her if Nick had proposed to her. This was before Tommy Mottola's book came out where he wrote that Mariah had proposed to him. Then, she brought up condescendingly that Mariah's dog had pooped in the dressing room. There is one girl who goes on every Mariah video on YT and leaves the nastiest comments. Go to any Mariah video and you'll see who I'm talking about. Does she have a job? Is putting Mariah down her job, or does she just hate her with a passion just because? Sometimes people's minds are tired and they're swayed by the subtle power of suggestion. When one person leaves a mean comment other people start agreeing and it snowballs. We need to be strong and think for ourselves. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:56)

Thoughts (48,239) by Abraham from USA I'm with B. I think the performance wasn't her best, but not her worst. I could see that she was having trouble with her ear piece. She sang live and tried her best I'm sure. And I give her that. Aside from the voice, I think she looked beautiful. Her hair and make up was on point. And I liked the red dress. I don't care what her weight is and if she isn't a size zero anymore. I love her no matter what. There are so many here getting their panties in a bunch and counting her voice out. Well not me. You can call me delusional or whatever you'd like. I don't care. I'll always love and respect Mariah. Have some forgotten her "AIWFCIY" performance on Jimmy K last year? She sang the song perfect and flawless. I hate to say it but some come across as idiots. Anyways, I'm happy with the ones who are being positive, supporting and keeping the love for Mariah. Thanks. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:50)

Rockefeller / Nikki (48,238) by Bill from the UK I knew after watching the performance the type of comments I'd see on this fan site. Rather than dissecting every single note (and I agree Nikki, an isolated track without the music is borderline bullying of her), can't we just enjoy it for what it was meant to be? A fun, festive, live performance? Mariah gets ripped apart by the media every time she performs. Yet she gets back on the saddle time and time again, when a lesser person would have given up. And why? For her fans. She loves us so much, it's time we reciprocated. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:48)

Mariah and "the voice" - Oprah's next chapter (48,237) by ADAM from USA I think the backlash Mariah is getting from the media this time around may make her have to address the elephant in the room - her vocal cords. We've been witnessing her vocal deterioration for many years now but I think most of us can agree that this era is the worst its ever been and doesn't seem like its returning. Before she toured this Fall, she hasn't been in the spotlight for several years and had more than enough time to "rest" her voice and it only gets thinner and hoarser. I just wish that more fans would open their eyes and stop using these lame excuses (weather, ear pieces, winter coats, divorce, diet, etc) as coverups for her ailing voice. Has anyone else ever thought that whenever she has a struggling performance she is always fidgeting with her ear monitors? I think the audio is fine, it's just her outwardly projecting her insecurity about her voice but displaying to the audience "look it's not my fault, it's the audios". In closing, I hope all this backlash will make her next big interview have to address the criticism the public has with her live performances. Whitney addressed it with Oprah, maybe Mariah will too. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:47)

Manny from U.S (48,236) by Lee from UK No, no, no, and no some more. Please do not blame Mariah's performance on the weather. This has happened on several occasions when she has performed outdoors and people have blamed the weather. It could be practically tropical and I doubt Mariah would have sounded any better. If you listen to the live mic feed version of the song which is literally just her voice a cappella, you can hear that she is out of breath and not breathing in the right places. Her pace was all off and she just could not hit those notes. I'm sure if Mariah knew she was going to sound that bad, she would have put the CD in and pressed play so to speak. I highly doubt it has anything to do with the weather. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:46)

Dark ensemble and shades (48,235) by Lee TS from USA That's what she wore for the rehearsal/sound check before the actual live performance. There's no conspiracy against her to the backlash that she's receiving right now. Mariah simply gave a bad performance, she didn't pull through with stellar vocals. It was rancidity at its peak dahling. Now, maybe Mariah will pay attention to this and try to fix/improve the situation. But if she feels ok about it, then let it be I guess. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We can keep suggesting things like vocal rest, vocal coach, vocal therapy, vocal surgery, heck, call fellow diva Celine for advice. Maybe she's done it all and this is what her voice has become. You get good and bad days but the bad days keep adding up. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 22:40)

Best R&B Albums of 2014 (48,234) by B from USA 16. Mariah Carey - Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse (Thursday 4 December 2014; 21:36)

Rockefeller Center Christmas (48,226) by B from USA Her voice was on point. She didn't hit some notes but she seemed to be having problems with her earpiece. I'm not delusional. I thought other than not being able to hit the high notes she did just fine. It was live and she proved she can still sing and I'm one happy lamb. A few flat notes and pitch problems does not make the performance a bad performance. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 21:32)

Next album cover (48,225) by Dove from USA I would like it if on her next album the cover was original artwork by her. Inside in the booklet there can be pictures of her for the people who actually buy the album to see. One of the pictures can be of her face, taken when the sun is setting with no filter. Or at her house hanging out with her kids like the ones she posts on Instagram. Or wearing a fancy gown on a piano but with minimal retouching. Or building sandcastles on the beach with her kids. She can record songs without the super high notes, and melisma, and floating between registers so that she can confidently sing them live if she wants to. Luckily the style of songs that are popular right now are sung simply so she just needs to write good songs like that. I would love just her and the piano or guitar. I would like to hear Sia inspired Mariah. I think that would be magical. I'm craving more deep and raw/real Mariah. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 21:20)

Re: (48,199) by Badr (48,224) by Dove from USA You lost me at lose weight. She looks beautiful and healthy at the weight she's at. I don't see a protruding gut on her. Even when she was pregnant and bigger she still got ready and looked beautiful. She went through a sex symbol era but I don't think she needs to stay there forever if she doesn't want to. People can grow and evolve. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 21:13)

Performance (48,223) by Luis from Spain I do think she sang nice. Maybe we fans are used to worse performances and after watching her defending herself properly we tend to think she has done a good job. I freaked out with Twitter yesterday. She failed a couple of times in a free space, it was cold, and she is struggling to what seems to be an inmediate divorce. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 20:47)

Yep, the Rockefeller performance was really bad (48,222) by Paul D from USA Mariah's performance of AIWFCIY was horrendous this past Wednesday at Rockefeller Center. It was similarly horrible at last year's tree lighting ceremony in Washington, DC. Having a couple of off-nights as a singer is fine. What worries me greatly is if there is some bigger vocal issue. As much as I despise all the crap that Walter Afanasieff has recently spewed in his interviews, I am saddened by what could possibly be the deterioration of Mariah's voice, or the lack of consistency in her singing. I'm going to the December 20th show at the Beacon Theatre in NYC, so I hope she'll do much better in an indoor setting and a more controlled environment. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 20:38)

Tree lighting performance (48,221) by Lee from UK You could tell from the first note that this wasn't going to go well. She constantly had her fingers in her ears fiddling with monitors so she was obviously struggling to hear herself. She sounded winded and out of breath and as a result didn't even attempt to reach most of the higher notes. The ones she did aim for fell flat. I'm glad she performed completely live but would have been lost without her backing singers. I hope Mariah watches this back to herself and has a think. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 19:54)

Smh (48,220) by S from I just think there's such a mean spirited bully-mentality in the media with all the "hear Mariah struggle through her song" articles. We all know that Mariah has talent and can/could sing, why don't they take their time to expose one of those young manufactured pop girls whose voices are autotuned like crazy? No, instead let's attack a veteran who has nothing left to prove because she has already earned her status and stardom since the past nearly 25 years. Ridiculous. (Thursday 4 December 2014; 19:49)

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